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Chapter 1: What is the Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest about?
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We're going to give them war room scenarios, the names they've heard with the teams in the first round. If this guy doesn't go in the first round, I love this pod. It's one of my favorite episodes of the year. And also, we'll touch on the Nico Yamaliava saga, which is no longer in Tennessee. And we've got life advice with Wargon today. So, get ready.
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This is one of my favorite pods to do of the entire year. And we do it pretty regularly now as you get ready for the NFL draft. Not that far away from the NFL Network. It is Daniel Jeremiah.
who joins us. And also a reminder, as an NFL Network analyst, he'll be part of the NFL Network coverage live from the draft from Green Bay. That's April 24th through the 26th. You can also check out his Move the Sticks podcast. And of course, my good friend Tom McShay from the McShay Show here at The Ringer.
You can hear his pod numerous days throughout the week as they're ramping up the content and his newsletter, which I subscribed to this morning. Just to make sure I was... getting all the latest Todd content. So good to see you guys. Thanks for doing this. It's good to see you. Good to see you, Todd. How you doing, brother?
Yeah, good to see you, DJ. It's been a minute. I'm doing well. How are you? I'm doing great, man. You are absolutely crushing it, by the way. Not only the content, I don't know who you got working on this thing, but like the quality of videos that you guys are promoting, what you guys are doing from a podcast standpoint is ridiculous.
I don't know if there's an army of a thousand people working on this.
My guy, Eduardo, I got to give him props. He's the best clip guy in the business. You got the best
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Chapter 2: Who are the top quarterback prospects and what is the latest on the Nico Iamaleava situation?
I also wonder, too, at this point in time with ownership, we hear a lot of stories after the fact of ownership getting involved when it comes to the quarterback position and drafting that high. So... That part's fascinating. The other thing, though, the conversations I'm having, and I'm curious what you're hearing, DJ, it's like, I think everyone views it as, yeah, Cam Ward's going one, right?
Titans, that thing's done. But then it's like, we kind of want our cake and eat it too. Like, We're interested in these other quarterbacks, whether it's Shador Sanders, Jackson Dart, I think is more more fits for like what New Orleans wants. There's a lot of talk about Jalen Milrow early second. And now he's invited to the to the draft. And that adds some intrigue.
Tyler Shuck is a name that keep hearing talking to people in the league really would like to get him in the second round. But you never know if there's that one team that trades up.
I'm fascinated to see because if Cleveland passes on quarterback, which we all expect at two, and the Giants pass on Shador at three and take Abdul Carter, now you've got Cleveland at 33, Giants at 34, the Saints at 40, all kind of sitting there waiting, trying to figure out when do you have to move up. I'm told that Shador is a favorite of Mike Tomlin's and the Pittsburgh Steelers.
So it's kind of that range of, all right, if they don't go in the top nine, then where do you have to trade up to go get that guy? Or do you sit back and wait? So all the conversations I'm having are about like, is there, you know, Atlanta at 15 only has five picks. Minnesota at 24 only has four picks in the entire draft. Could they be teams that move out for a team that's coming up?
So that's fascinating. Like from our perspective to sit back and kind of watch and wait and see if Shador doesn't go three, this draft is going to be a lot of fun on the first night.
The, the, the GMs that you talked to during this time of the year that are super bummed are the GMs that are picking after the Pittsburgh Steelers at the bottom of round one, because their conversation is like, gosh, I'd love to get the heck out of here. But the teams that are coming back up for a quarterback have identified Pittsburgh as a potential landing spot for quarterbacks.
So if I'm picking behind Pittsburgh, I'm screwed because if they want to trade back up for a quarterback, they got to get to 20 and that's Denver. So it's, it's 20 or North. If you're going to bypass those guys at the top and that's,
Just the overall feeling, Ryan, on the quarterback class and on the draft, I would say, to kind of put a bow on this little thing, Cam Ward's in his own category, done, locked, number one, viewed as a first-round pick in most drafts. He's that caliber of a player, however you stack him with previous drafts. He's viewed as a first-round guy.
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Chapter 3: How do scouts evaluate offensive linemen and tackles in this draft?
Is that the Vernon Golston counter? Because he had the tape.
I mean, we could have a 10-minute discussion on Vernon Golsan and all that, but I remember the draft.
Vernon Golsan would have to do a three-point turn to get in your kitchen behind you.
Yes. He was a little stiff. Yes, there you go. Right, but wasn't it the tape against Michigan that got him drafted that high? Where they were looking at, it was Jake Long, right?
Gosh, was that that year? That's a long time ago, man.
That's going in my way. I think I just remember. Well, one, I remember because Todd would come by the studio and he would just be exasperated. He'd be like, I just don't see it. I just don't see it. So I'm giving you credit for that one. And then every time they would show his highlight tape, it was I think he made two plays against Jake. And that was pretty much it.
yeah yeah so anyway three years there's a lot there's a lot more to go off of now too and there's so much easier ways to sort stuff too where you can jam video whereas a lot of times back in those days we're watching especially like if you're an area guy going in there you're watching three four games and moving on to the next school like now you can watch literally in a very convenient efficient manner every single pass rush of his you know going back years and just knock it all out you get a i think it's easier to scout now than it was back oh it's so much easier you
It's so much easier.
A thousand percent on the, on the pass rusher thing, which I love the topic. A couple of different things I was thinking of why, why Todd was talking there. I was at a Padre game last week and you guys know I'm a huge Padre fan. So I go up there and I visit with AJ Preller, who's done an unbelievable job, you know, building baseball teams and we love talking about scouting.
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