Todd McShay
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No, no. So here's how it went. He's not allowed in the studio. We don't need the disruption and the confusion. I texted him actually a while back, and I was like, I'm trying to call you. Pick up your phone. And I gave him, you know, like the town where it's like we're going to go do something. I can't tell you what we're doing. We're going to hurt some people.
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And I said on the text, I was like, I just need you to say whose car we take.
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And so we called back and I explained my concept, which was I just want to take over your house and make day three Saturday inside the Rosillo. Have you?
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We've been to his new house.
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Yeah, he's on his ninth Manhattan Beach house. It's like this great man cave overlooking the Pacific Ocean. TV's everywhere. So we're going to go and we're going to eat his food, drink his drinks, and invade his house on Saturday for two hours, 3 p.m. Eastern to 5 p.m. Eastern. We're going to be there recapping the whole draft as the draft's going up. Wait, so he only gave you two hours?
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You're not even going to get to watch the whole draft with him? His only caveat was NBA playoffs. Exactly, yeah. He's got his notepad out. So I'm going to try to get him to run a 40. Bill Simmons and I are setting the over-under. Bill had it at six flat. I said, like, five-two. So I'm going to try to get him to run to 40. He reminded me that he has a squat rack in the house.
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So maybe we can do the 225 bench press rack.
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He's like a linebacker. I could see him. It's definitely going to be a hamstring issue, right? Yeah. Pulling up after 33 yards.
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Yeah.
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Daniel Jeremiah said we should run it in the sand for a built-in excuse.
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Here's how I look at it. And I kind of do tears off of grades, but let's break away from that for a second. There's two guys that are at the top, and that's Travis Hunter and Abdul Carter. They're in their own tier, if you will. Then after that, there's a handful of guys. But what's interesting is a lot of them are not in premium positions. Ashton Gentry, running back.
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Two tight ends in Tyler Warren and Colston Loveland. And then you look at the rest of the list. Yes, there is – I think there's two edges that belong – actually, three I would probably throw in there with – with Jalen Walker, his teammate, Michael Williams, and Shamar Stewart. But then also in that mix, I would throw in Jihad Campbell from Alabama and Mason Graham, interior defensive lineman.
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So that's kind of the range, and Cam Ward would be up there as well in that second tier, if you will. What's interesting, man, is we're now – like hours away from the draft, right? And there's talk because of certain teams having specific needs, and this happens every year, but not normally this high. We get to four, and New England's probably going to take Will Campbell.
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Will Campbell's the fourth or fifth best offensive lineman in last year's draft. The information I'm getting as we get closer, it could be Ashton Ginty at four for Jacksonville. It's not going to be Mason Graham, the defensive tackle for Michigan. But the player that I keep hearing over and over again from people in the league and around the league is Tedaroa McMillan, the wide receiver.
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So if that's – and the theory behind it is Trevor Lawrence, go back to 2018, 2019 at Clemson, two 6'4 wide receivers, 4,000 receiving yards, 42 touchdowns to Justin Ross and T. Higgins, those guys, and he's had smaller receivers at Jacksonville, and he's been missing the target by a little bit. Let's get him a big catch radius guy like Tet McMillan at 6'4.
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And so if that's the case, and now Campbell goes 4, Tet goes 5 – I'm told that Las Vegas is going to take Ashton Ginty at six. And so that could be an offensive tackle, Armand Membu. Now you get to seven and all these guys. You ready? Mason Graham, still available. Tyler Warren and Colston Loveland, still available. Jalen Walker, Shamar Stewart, Mikel Williams, all still available.
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It's going to be an Ashton Jinty. How about the Bears fans? Wake up. There's a scenario playing out right now as I'm talking to people in the league day in and day out where the Bears come on the board at 10. I don't want to get everyone all worked up. But Ashton Gentry, Tyler Warren, and Colston Loveland are still available for them there.
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I would think so.
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Exactly. I think every mock draft in the world for about a month straight had two of the same players in the same teams. It was Mason Graham, Michigan defensive tackle, going to Jacksonville at five. And one pick later was Ashton Jinty running back, going to the Las Vegas Raiders at six. And I don't think either is happening.
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I actually think he's a better pure runner in terms of like contact balance, churning out yards after contact. than Bijan Robinson. There's been six running backs go in the top 10 in the last 10 years of the draft. And Saquon's obviously one of them. Leonard Fournette and Christian McCaffrey were in 2017. Go all the way back to, I think it was 2015 with Todd Gurley.
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So it's not unprecedented for a running back to go in the top 10. He's certainly worth it in terms of the grade that he carries. But to me, Ashton Gentry, like... I haven't talked to any teams that, that view him not as one of the top six, seven players in this draft.
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And the fact that he could wind up falling to 10 to the bears would, um, obviously it's positional value, but, but absolutely worth the pick and would, I just like part of me fell in love with the concept of, of Warren or Colston with, with Cole commit and cooking it up in the lab with Ben Johnson and 12 personnel. And, uh,
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But then you throw Ashton Jinty in the mix and taking the pressure off the quarterback position. If that's the scenario, they can't go wrong with the pick, and certainly they'd be thrilled to have him. Because there was a scenario with the Raiders taking Jinty at 6 and the Jets potentially taking Tyler Warren at 7.
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where Colson Loveland was the best available at those positions at 10 for the Bears. And I don't know that that's going to be the case anymore.
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There's a chance. I look at the Jets as a possibility at pick 7 for Mason Graham. I wouldn't rule out Carolina at 8. But I don't know. I think if he gets past... If he gets past five and gets past the Raiders at six, yeah, I think he could be on the board.
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I just got a text from an assistant GM in the league. And he's like, please try to ask around. And I just sent out some feelers. And I'm jumping on with you guys, and I'll make some more calls after. Apparently, there have been calls. And that's not surprising. But apparently, someone's trying.
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There's a team out there that, according to word, and people are trying to figure out how true it is and how valid it is. But at this moment, there's apparently a team out there that's putting a big offer. to the Cleveland Browns to try to move up to No.
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I don't know. That's why I was sending out texts before I jumped on with you. There's some speculation, maybe the Dallas Cowboys?
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Yeah. And he said for a player, I saw that quote. So that player could be Travis Hunter before the draft. So, I mean, it would it would fall in line. But yeah, it's definitely a wide open. I mean, no shit, Jerry. Everyone's going to do something before and after the draft.
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I get it with the Giants, but you've known for over a month now that Cam Ward's going number one. So if you're Cleveland and you've made the decision, it's not quarterback. And I know I know that to be true at two. And then you're and you've got your choice between Abdul. I literally started this whole conversation with you guys talking about this year's class.
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And I said, there's two players that are in a group of their own. So at this point, you know, you're basically on the clock and you know what the board looks like. So why I get the Giants because we can get to the Giants in a second, but there's some there's some dissension in the Giants ranks. And so maybe trading out of that spot.
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if you're trying to appease the, the head coach and Brian Dable and, and maybe get a quarterback, you'd like to move back, get a quarterback, have an additional pick to try to, you know, plug some other holes. If that's truly the case. And again, we can get to the giants in a second, but,
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But if you're Cleveland, you either know you want Travis Hunter, you've decided that, or you're looking at this and weeks ago you would have been talking to other teams about potentially moving up to the number two spot. It doesn't make sense that they would be putting out the feelers. It would make sense if the Giants were kind of reaching out, hey, any interest here? Right, right.
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Let me, let me give you a couple things, pieces of insight here. Um, First of all, I was actually mildly surprised to hear as of Sunday, my information is that John Mara, the Mara family, they have not gotten involved. And I don't mean they're not involved in the process. I mean, they're not saying we need to do this or we really would like to take Shador at three or really would like to take out.
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They're letting the people they hired work out the decision. Second part is everyone got all worked up. They're grabbing the Mara plane, and they're flying to Boulder on Thursday of last week. Tuscaloosa on Friday for Jalen Milrow. Tyler Shuck in Louisville on Saturday. Is it going to be – no one wanted to talk about the Milrow and Shuck part or the fact that they worked out dark the week before.
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The face of this draft is Shador Sanders. So everyone media-wise was on – it's still in play at three. What I can tell you is this, according to my sources, and honestly, I've been saying it for two weeks on the show.
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If you hire Brian Dable, you did so because he is one of the handful, not dozens, handful of human beings on this planet in the NFL that actually know how to develop quarterbacks and actually can get the best out of them and actually have a like a brilliant offensive mind. Okay. And I don't care if this quarterback outlasts Brian in his tenure. I don't care what the wins and losses are.
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Brian can flat out frigging coach, man. I'm telling you, this guy is at a very high level in the NFL in terms of offensive coaching. I believe that. So you've got this man who's one of just a handful in the league in your building. He's the smartest man in the room. And... For some reason, there's some people in the scouting department that prefer Shador.
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But the guy who's going to coach him that's great at doing that is not a Shador guy, apparently. And I say that because I've heard that from sources. And I also have said that even before I had sources on it because I know Brian. I know his style. I know his history. We know Josh Allen. We know Jalen Hurts, I think, at Alabama. Jackson Dart fits the mold for him. Sturdy. Mobile.
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bigger arm than Shador's doesn't have to have a rifle, but like he just fits the mold. And so whether it's Shador or Tyler shock, or maybe a developmental project in, you know, day two with, with Jalen Milrow, that fits a lot more than Shador, especially in that climate and that division.
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So I'm hearing now that he wants to take a quarterback at three or, or maybe move down from that spot and take a quarterback. He'd like to make sure they get their guy. But I also have heard, and it lines up with my football sense, is that it's not Shador. Okay? So maybe... I'm hopeful that this organization is smart enough to say, well, Brian's the guy we've got to lean on with the quarterbacks.
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Maybe move back down, take Jackson Dart a little bit later, get an additional pick or two, however that works out. But that's kind of the backdrop on everything that's going on in that Giants organization. And I'm just hopeful. I mean, he had to live through Daniel Jones. He got the best when Daniel Jones actually could stay healthy for a minute. He got the best out of Daniel Jones.
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Imagine he gets to handpick his guy and develop him and not have to rush him out there year one with Russell Wilson there and with Jameis Winston there. that's the direction I would go. And if I was the Mara family and I had to get involved at all, I'd be like, you let him make the quarterback decision. You guys make the rest of them.
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Yeah, but then you're basically saying, like, this is your last year as my head coach. Right, you might as well fire him. Yeah. Or this is your last year as my GM, Joe Shane. So... I don't know the inner workings exactly how that would go.
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I've heard unbelievably wild stories of ownership and last-minute making decisions that didn't align with what the personnel department and what the coaching staff wanted. Dan Snyder and Jay Gruden. But again, I do want to emphasize, because there's been a lot of speculation, that as of Sunday, the mayors are letting the football people handle the football stuff so far. I would like to think...
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that if they do go Abdul Carter at three, that they would be wise in where they tried to move up. And if Dart's the guy that Brian Dable wants, then you go out and get Dart. You secure him at 25, let's say, with the Vikings, who only have four picks in the entire draft, the fewest of any team in the league. So that's kind of how I look at this.
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The other part is, and we haven't even gotten to this, where's Shador going? Yeah. And why? And why? Why? And if Shador because 21 sitting there and everyone thinks because the same the same principles apply with Kellen Moore and New Orleans at nine. I don't think it's going to be quarterback at nine. I am fairly certain. Kellen Moore does not want Shador.
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That he would be a Jackson Dart guy as well, or maybe a Tyler Shuck. Based off of his last three jobs as OCs were with Dak Prescott, Justin Herbert, and Jalen Hurts. Those are Dart types of players, or Tyler Shuck types of players. Shador doesn't have a lot of love right now, man. And listen... Baker Mayfield was like, what, plus 2,000 to be the number one overall pick the night before.
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Michael Penix, none of us knew that Michael Penix was going to be the pick for Atlanta a year ago. So we've seen this over and over again. There's a team lurking, I'm sure, that has more interest in Shador in round one than we know of right now. But I'm also told, and this is the fascinating part,
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Mike Tomlin does like Shador and there's love for Shador in that building, but it's a softer floor because everyone said, well, that's the floor for Shador 21. It's a softer floor than people want to admit to right now, or maybe people understand right now.
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And so if it's not 21 or if Pittsburgh's trying to trade back out of that, that spot at 21 because they don't have a second round pick after the DK trade, well, Where's Shador going? And so is it going to be a situation where it's like, hold, hold? You know, like Cleveland at 33, Giants at 34, New Orleans at 40. Private planes have been crossing over each other in the air the last couple of weeks.
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Workouts with Dart and Chuck and Milrow and Shador. So maybe everyone just holds off and waits. And maybe we only have one quarterback drafted in the first round. In fact, talking to people who are really in the know, even more than I am in the know, There's a growing sense that it's more likely that one quarterback gets drafted in the first round than three.
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Yeah, I mean, Portnoy and I have been fighting since we were nine years old. He's a very accomplished scout. Get out of here.
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Right. He's like the cat with the lives, right? He just gets to keep drawing lines in the sand and then it gets... That's what happens to the line in the sand. It gets swept away. Yeah, so I like Shador. I'm not lying in the sand. I like Shador, but can we have some intelligence with the conversation? The intelligence is I don't want him in a system that doesn't fit him.
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So much of this is about where they land, and I know no one wants to talk about it because it's not sexy and fun pre-draft. But if you told me that he went to Cleveland, even in that weather and playing in that division, if you told me he went to Cleveland and had a year or two, and he doesn't even need it as much as some of the other guys do.
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But if he had a little time, wasn't forced in right away, and had Kevin Stefanski, like I told you, Kellen Moore is dark. Shuck. Brian Dable is dark. Shuck.
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Kevin Stefanski has won games with guys that aren't the biggest, aren't the most mobile, don't have the biggest arm, but process lightning fast and are accurate throwing the ball and get the ball out quickly in that West Coast system and lead receivers to yards after catch. That's what Shador is. So Stefanski would be perfect for him. He won 11 games with Kirk Cousins. Who was it, McNown?
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Who was it? The quarterback before he won 10 or 11 games. So he's won games, a lot of games, with guys that don't have that great mobility, size, arm strength. I think he'd be perfect with Shador, but I haven't heard anything on Cleveland. Yeah. And in fact, I was told do not expect Cleveland to trade up if someone falls in their lap. Yeah.
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But but don't expect them to trade up, which would be interesting, too, because if you do stick and pick it, too, and you get his teammate, Travis Hunter, and everyone's sitting there were picked 24 or 25. Yeah. Where's Cleveland? You know, so that'll be fascinating to watch, too.
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I thought for a while it was going to be Aaron announcing that he was going to Pittsburgh at the big night out or whatever it was for McAfee. I did too. That didn't happen, and then we had the McAfee interview. Yes. And my guy, Mensch, was saying all along, like, you know, he's going to be in Green Bay. Like, he did it. I was in Cleveland. I'll never forget. We're getting ready for the draft.
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We got all these hits for SportsCenter and NFL Live, getting ready and previewing it. And what are we hearing? And where are you guys going to go? And all of a sudden, it's like everyone stepped down. You know, Schefter, come on up. And it was Aaron Rodgers for like an hour and a half leading up to the draft. Yeah, yeah. So that wouldn't have shocked me. But I kind of think it's –
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We're going to go through a little dead period. I think that he'll be true to what he was saying. He needs a little time, but we'll have to see.
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I think the conversation would have started at QB4 last year with Cam Ward. I think with the other guy, with Shador and Dart, it would have started probably at QB... If I'm being honest, QB6, but for most people, QB7. I didn't have Bo Nix as high as some other... I had a second-round grade on Bo Nix, so I was wrong on that so far. But Cam...
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When you watch the tape and you study the cut-ups of him in rhythm, on time, when he gets to the top of his drop, foot in there, receiver's where he's supposed to be and drives it, he's an absolute sniper. And I think that's what Brian Callahan is – is looking at and like, I'm going to channel that guy.
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Just like when Andy Reed and Brett Veach, the GM for the chiefs watched Patrick Mahomes and he's drifting and kind of just throwing from every arm angle. And it was an absolute mess at Texas tech, but a beautiful mess, but still a mess, you know? Um, They saw – when you go and you isolate those clips when he's actually in rhythm and running within the constructs of the offense, it was brilliant.
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And it's the same thing with Cam. And I think Brian Callahan, the coach, is absolutely qualified to help in his development. He started his career with Peyton Manning in Denver. Matthew Stafford, he spent a lot of time with, right? He obviously, Joe Burrow brought them to the Super Bowl. So he's been around greatness.
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I mean, like the highest level greatness at the quarterback position and has helped in the process along the way, learned and helped. So... I like that fit, and I think Cam needs channeling. Patrick Mahomes needed channeling, but they both share a similar trait. I'm not doing the Mahomes and Cam Ward thing here. I'm not.
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I'm just saying one of the special traits for Cam is that he feels the pressure, knows it's coming, but he's going to let you take another step or two towards him because then you're leveraged out. It's like the old out the way. Instead of some of these other guys, you watch the panic, the drifting, the racing out of the pocket. and things get scrambled.
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He's unbelievably calm, and he is thinking a step ahead. And I think if you've channeled what he does in terms of in the pocket, on time, and then you allow him to still utilize those traits when the initial play breaks down, you could have something pretty special with camp.
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The Houston Texans, there's some noise that they are – that they're trying to move up for an offensive lineman, okay? Yeah. Dallas is going to be interesting. Just kind of sensing that something's going on there. A lot of people have thought Ted McMillan to Dallas at 12. Now we're hearing Jacksonville. I don't know if that would force their hand and they like him that much.
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I've got him ranked 50th on my board. I see the talent. There's a lot of other stuff I don't trust with Ted McMillan. So we'll see about that. Philadelphia, Howie Roseman can't sit still. So whether it's moving up, moving back at 32. But I do think Mason Taylor's an intriguing prospect for them with Dallas Goddard and the situation there. And the Rams.
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The Rams, could that be a quarterback team where they just all of a sudden out of nowhere decided, yeah, we're going to take Jackson Dart if he's there. So obviously with Stafford and his situation, I don't plan on that, but it's just something to keep an eye on.
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Graze Abel, one of my favorites in this draft. North Dakota State. Play like Teron Armstead, Cody Mock, Quinn Miners. All these guys show up at the Senior Bowl, have awesome weeks, disprove the small school level, and go on to have really brilliant careers and get drafted in all sorts of different ranges, but go on to have really good careers.
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Gray's able moves differently than every interior offensive lineman in this draft. I think he could go as high as 18 to Seattle.
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So I've got Cam Ward 1, Jackson Dart 2, Shador Sanders 3, Tyler Shuck 4, Jalen Milrow 5, and Will Howard 6. Tyler Shuck's one of my favorites, man, and I got to spend a little bit of time with him at the Combine. He's 25, going to be 26 during the season, I believe. He had three season-ending injuries, all bone breaks. Injury-prone, you could call them, or fluke injuries.
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When he first started out at Oregon, he's been to three different schools, seven years in college. He was in the recruiting class with Trevor Lawrence. He was the backup to Justin Herbert at Oregon his freshman year. He's been around that long. Those guys are like going second contracts and all that. He's matured a lot, and no one wants to hear the touchy-feely, fun stuff with quarterbacks.
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But you've got to know who you are as a human being if you're going to take over an organization, be handed the keys at some point in a year or two, and look in that huddle. If you do huddle in grown-ass men, they're looking back at you and got no time for some pup. He's had football. He was carted off the field, thought he would never play again. He's just been through a lot.
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And I look at him, and I'm like, The biggest negative I have in talking to teams, this is the problem. Seven years in this age, but only one year of starting experience. One full year, right, at Louisville this past year. But he's with the Brahm brothers who know how to coach quarterbacks. He's developed unbelievably well in the past year, year plus. And he...
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He can step in, and I think he's going to shock people when he plays. He's bigger than the rest of these quarterbacks. He's got a stronger arm than probably the rest of these quarterbacks, maybe the same level as Cam Ward. He's faster on a straight line than all these guys outside of Jalen Milrow, the top four guys for me. He's the fastest of all of them when he tucks and runs.
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The traits are there. The experience is there. The maturity is there. I would love to see him, whether it's the Giants with Brian Dable, the – the New Orleans Saints, picking at 40. One of those teams is not going to wind up with Shador, is not going to wind up with Jackson Dart.
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And I would love to see him with one of those two spots with an opportunity in a year to take over the reins and see what he can do. I think he's going to be a big surprise in this class.
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I'm way different than a lot of people in this class.
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Yeah, it's good. Way different. I've got Number one receiver is Matthew Golden. Route running, crispness, 429, 40-yard dash, second fastest player at the Combine. And the questions about him, is the top end speed great? He's not great after the catch in terms of making guys miss, but if he catches a crease, he's gone. Vertical speed, adjusts to the ball. I like Golden one.
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Then the big surprise probably for most people would be Jalen Knoll from Iowa State. I've got him at number two. at the wide receiver position. He is so explosive. He, yeah, he's undersized. Yeah. He's probably going to be a slot like that. Fine. But, but like look at lad McConkie last year and what he came in, like, he's probably going to have to be a slot. I don't know.
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And McConkie was one of the best rookie receivers in a class. It was like legendary for rookie production and wide receiver. So I think Noel is going to be probably a second round pick. He's not getting to the third, but not going to be in the first. So a second-round pick, and I think he's going to way outplay his draft slot.
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After that, I've got Emeka Ibuka from Ohio State, another probably slot receiver, but consistent, a lot of production. And then I like the other Iowa State 2 guy, too, Jaden Higgins. big 6'3 plus, physical receiver, great getting off the press. Those are my top four. And Tett McMillan is down there at number 50 overall, as I said.
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Yeah, Luther Burden I actually have before Tett. And then Luther Burden comes with a handful of – Stuff and red flags and all that, but he's not Debo. Everyone wants to say he's Debo, but I get the comp in that he's physical, explosive after the catch, versatile. You can do a lot of different things with him.
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Never going to be your best route runner, but if you can get him the football, he's going to make a lot of plays.
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Clearly not. Okay. Because I just turned in my final top 300. I'll post tonight the McShea Report. Google it. Subscribe, people. Come on.
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I'm in trouble.
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JT... Tui Molalau. I've had to practice that name. Tui Molalau from Ohio State. I just like him. I think I had prospect fatigue over time. The first report I wrote on him was in the summer of 2022. We're now going in the summer of 2025. So it was the same guy over and over again, but this year he took it to another level. This year's draft, I agree with Daniel Jeremiah, it's not great at the top.
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There's not as many elite players at the top as you'd like to see. But teams are looking for starters. And if you're a base 4-3 defense, plug in. He's going to be seven, nine sacks a year, batted down passes, effort. There's nothing overly sexy about his game, but he's going to be one of those guys who eight, nine years in, we're like, he's still doing it at a high level. I like JTT.
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I think Travion Henderson, if put in the right spot, like the Jameer Gibbs spot that he was put in, has got a chance to be special. Don't rule him out as a first-round draft pick. In fact, I've talked to teams that have him rated higher than Omari and Hampton. And there's a growing... that he could wind up being RB2 in this class. So that's intriguing. Elijah Arroyo.
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So much time has been spent on Tyler Warren and Colston Loveland, and rightfully so. And Mason Taylor could sneak in at 32, right? There's going to be a team that gets Arroyo out of Miami, and if he can stay healthy, which you could say about every prospect, but he's had struggles with durability – He is so explosive.
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His ability to get down the seam, run routes down the field, he's like a different level. Normally, these Kelsey types, the F tight end, the flex out tight end, they don't block all that well. This guy's got some prick in a man like he loves it. He will embarrass you on tape.
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So I just I think Arroyo is going to wind up really outplaying where he winds up getting drafted, which is probably gonna be somewhere in like the 40s or early 50s. But I think Arroyo is an absolute player.
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I think Edge is a spot that they'd like to be able to go. I don't think they're stuck drafting there. We've got a bunch of guys who are going to come off the board, and I think earlier than people expected, now that I'm talking to teams, I think it's going to be Carter at three, Abdul Carter at three. I think Jalen Walker is going to go. Maybe as early as the Jets at six.
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And if not, a couple picks later. I think Michael Williams could go as early as, let's say, eight to Carolina. I think Shamar Stewart could go shortly thereafter. Maybe it's nine to the Saints. I think James Pierce could go like 15 to Atlanta. Mike Green, maybe 17 to Cincinnati. And all of a sudden, you look up, you're like, shit. We're pick 18. And we said, what did I just list off?
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Like seven guys? Yeah. So... I don't know that there's going to be like Donovan as a rock who, um, from BC is really, really a savvy, proficient edge rusher. I just don't know that he's got that, like he's shorter. He's not the fastest, most explosive guy. I think he's probably going to be early too. Why not? Why not Travion Henderson there? Yeah. Yeah. It would make sense.
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I get it, cornerback, edge are bigger needs, but if Jadé Barron and Will Johnson and Maxwell Hairston are all off the board, and all those edges are off the board, and you can't trade back, I don't know. Like... Just getting a weapon in the passing game and adding that, you know, with Brian Robinson, what you already have.
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And I just – I think he's got a chance to elevate like Gibbs did, maybe not quite to that level, but to take an offense that's explosive and to do like – just a little more nudge where now you've got to account for this guy who's a 4-4, catches the ball out of the backfield, will protect too. He and his buddy, Quinshawn Judkins, their pass protection tape is fun to watch.
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So I could see Henderson as a – as someone who's on the short list as a possibility.
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I can see that. Jeremy Chin's gone. Yeah. The safeties are – I mean, you talk about polar opposites of the spectrum, right? You've got Nick Emanwar, who's like 6'3", 220, like broke the broad jump record at the combine by like four inches and had the best – over 200 pounds, like the best vertical jump of any player ever. Just insane workout. And his tape is really good and interesting, right?
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But, like, you talk about kind of the football character stuff and focus issues and kind of in and out of things and aggressiveness in the run support. So there's this, like, balancing act with him. The traits are unbelievable, but what are we – are we sure that this is a first-round guy that we want to bring in? Then you get Starks, who's like –
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Kirby Smart talks about him almost as glowingly as Nick Saban talked about Will Anderson a couple years ago. Just loves ball, team first, prepared, does all the little things, smooth move on tape, is beautiful moving smooth and aggressive and plays fast and comes up and hits and all the things. And he's a first-round talent on tape.
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But then he worked out, and it was like third worst this, second worst this, like among the safeties in the class, and didn't run very well. So I do think the safeties, if they come off the board in the first round, will be very late, like that 27 to 32 range. But I could see a scenario, too, where neither guy gets drafted by the end of night one.
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You get my attention when you're like a three-year captain.
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And you get my attention when you've transferred in From somewhere and you're immediately, you earned a captain. You were able to, in that little window of like three, four, five months, become a captain before the week one of the season. But there's a lot of captains out there. But yeah, I'd prefer a captain over a non-captain.
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I hate when it's the negative stuff, but I still go back to Brady Quinn and Tim Tebow. Brady Quinn. Was it Quinn? No, it was Clausen with Kuyper.
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I had a good run on shutting Kuyper down on some quarterbacks.
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With Clausen and Quinn. I think he had an agent who represented some of those Notre Dame guys. Bumped him up. But, I mean, I got him to promise to retire, and he's still going.
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That didn't work out. But what was your best?
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I don't know. I don't like to sit here and pat my back.
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I still like – yeah, I don't know. I'll say this. The quarterbacks have always been the hardest. Like Bo Nix last year I talked about. Jamarcus Russell was the one. Obviously. But there were a lot of people in the league that didn't like Jamarcus. I had the wrong information. My goodness.
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I've never talked about learning a hard lesson early on when he's on his knee, like throwing 60 yards at the goalpost. And you're you're like a 25 year old scout or sent sent from ESPN to do the first pro day ever. And you see that and you're like, oh, my God.
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Yeah. And then and then when he's sitting in the sideline doing interviews and sitting on the ground and media is coming up and putting the microphones in front of him. And I ask I'm asking people at LSU, like, why is he sitting like, oh, he's just chill. You know, he's like, relax. And that's part of the reason he's so good. And it turns out like, no, that dude's just lazy.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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After three, then you give it up. Although Sam Darnold, I'm still like Sam Darnold. I love you, buddy. I loved Sam Darnold in that class.
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It's true. So it's coming around. So if you were going to give up after year three, usually by year seven, but not always.
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and that's why every team gives like, whether it's like the gold star, the red star, the red dot, like they, they allow their scouts to go up to the board and be like, pick your one, pick your guy. Um, and they do their best if in the right situation and they'll, they'll take it over a player with a similar grade and all that. Um, but they do get to know them like these scouts, man. I,
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I know no one wants to hear it in Crimea river. They work for NFL teams, but like what they get paid for the work they do talking to them. Now, like I've talked to a good friend who's in the Southeast and like, it used to be like 12, 13 players in the summer. They're evaluating. And now like NIL and transfer portal and guys all over the place. And,
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At Ole Miss, it was 12 or 13, and this year he had 30 players he had to write up in the summer. It's not just like watching tape. It's like you said, getting to know the background, all the history, who's in charge of this guy. Now who's the agent of this guy?
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It's a lot of work that goes into all these individuals in a region, and then you handpick a few guys that you absolutely love, you believe in. You present that to the general manager, and they do their best. But odds are,
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I mean, maybe you get one or two guys at best from your entire region in a draft, and then you're looking at these reports, like a binder this big and files, and it's just all gone. Yeah, I do that for you.
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Yeah. I'll never forget. That was like one of my, I mean, obviously we did like the combine together and all, but that was the first time being out in a real setting professionally with you clowns, right?
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And I'm like, what is going on? You guys are like going up to GMs and coaches.
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You saw his arm, right?
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Passing out the sheet. At that point, no one really knew what your whole deal was. Yeah. And like media was not media was was staunch back then.
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Like you, like you had to have like permission and go through the certain channels to talk to a general manager head coach. And you guys were just like, yeah, you saw his big arm, right? We didn't get you guys yet.
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I was just timing Big Cat in a 40. Yeah, yeah. While a grandma walked by.
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Like Jehovah's Witnesses for Josh Allen. The pamphlet we used to call it. The Varsal pamphlet. Yeah. He's laughing now.
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And I don't have any information that's saying Cleveland is taking Shador, just to make that clear. But if I'm Andrew Barry and I'm saying, all right, the salary cap's horrible this year, and it's not going to be any better next year. We maybe can get a Russell Wilson or make a trade for Kirk Cousins, but that's just temporary.
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That could help us win some games this year while we're developing a young quarterback, whether that's for later in his rookie year or for year two. But we got to get to year two because if we're drafting this high next year and talking about like Garrett Nussmeyer from LSU or Carson Beck or whoever the quarterbacks are going to be next year,
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We're probably not the decision makers here in Cleveland. We probably lost our job.
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Correct. So it makes sense that you're bringing Kenny Pickett as a backup and maybe he does better things than all of us expect if forced into duty. Exactly. But so why are they still in the market for these veterans? Well, they're not going to cost anything. And so they weren't in it for Stafford. They're not in it for Aaron Rodgers.
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But if they can bring in someone to help win games, whether it's the whole year or part of this rookie year for Shador Sanders, that gives them a shot. And then if you have Shador, there's energy, there's excitement about the future. And Stefanski is one of the handful of guys in the league that I believe could get the most out of Shador and actually win a lot of games with.
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And his dad, we can say all the things you want about Coach Prime, and he's not for everybody, and the way he handles things, it's kind of against the establishment, so there's obviously always going to be pushback, right? Yeah. But he is dialed into the league, and he knows the guys that can help develop his son.
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And at the end of the day, as a father, all you want to do is put your children in a position where they can help them get the best of what they are, no matter what their career path is. And so I think he looks at it, and with his connections in the league and his understanding, and he looks at it and says, you know what? I'm in a good position.
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Yes, he makes more money if he goes and picks one, two, or three. But also with that, and it's kind of unique, there are three guys that are running the organization as head coaches that actually can coach quarterbacks. And he's not going number one where Brian Callahan is, but Stefanski's an outstanding quarterback developer and can work with him.
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And Brian Dayball, while he's worked with bigger, you know, Josh Allens and Jalen Hurts at Alabama, he's worked with guys that have different traits. Brian Dayball can coach quarterbacks really well. Right. So I think the combination of, yeah, he gets more money, but probably just as, if not more importantly, I trust where he's going to go and the people who are going to be working with
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You should have seen my comments after I came out and I started talking about this. Oh, yeah. Simmons got to you. Simmons got to you, right? And my answer is, yeah, he got me thinking. There's no question. He got me thinking with some of the social media stuff that I was oblivious to because I'm sitting here watching like R.J. Harvey, the running back from UCF right now.
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They're not, but no one wants to. Matthew Stafford, at the end of the day, he was offered the same. And I've even heard reports maybe like a little bit more to go to New York. But if you're looking at it and I say I get two, three years left, I'm not certain that Joe Shane and more importantly, Brian Dable is going to be there for two or three years. What's the stability of the organization?
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Yes. So that's why for the majority of people I talk to in the league, Bill, It is a later first, maybe early second round grade for Shador. But for the teams that are in these very unique situations, Cleveland at two and the Giants at three, they have circumstances that require them to make decisions differently. that maybe they wouldn't make if they had six years left on their contract.
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They'd done a lot of winning, and they wanted a quarterback, but they didn't need to reinvigorate the fan base and, more importantly, show promise towards the future.
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And he talked himself into it. Didn't have to come back for a second year where defensive coordinators had seen it the first time around. Like, Shador, here's the thing that I find interesting. First of all, when you watch the tape, he's tough as nails. So forget all the diamonds and the commercials and all that stuff.
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This guy is an old school throwback, pocket passing, stare down the gun barrel, take the hits and pop back up type of quarterback. And the other part is, too, it's interesting talking to people in the league. To a T, it's like, yeah, Prime's getting all the media attention and people think that that's a headache. He's not going to be a headache when Shador comes here.
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In fact, and I don't want to go into a lot of detail, and it's speculation and one person's thoughts on it versus another's, but Cam Ward's got a father, apparently, who's been very involved. And so there's talk in the league of like, And it's not going to affect where Cam goes. He's going to be the first pick in the draft.
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But the interesting part to people in the league is we'd be a little bit more worried about the externals with Cam than we are with Shador and Coach Prime.
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Yeah, nothing was disrespectful.
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He knows something that maybe we just don't know. Right.
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No, and they need a running back, and this just so happens to be the best running back class maybe in the history of the draft and certainly since 2017. Yeah. And they're not that far away. They're really not. And I go through it. If I'm Shador and I've got assurances that it could be Cleveland, but if it's not, it's very likely going to be the Giants.
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I think that that probably led to what you were just talking about, too.
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I do hear that the Jets could throw us a curveball the first night. Let's just get it out here now. I'm not saying it's going to happen, but I think there's a little bit of love for Jackson Dart in that building.
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And if it wasn't Denver, it was probably going to be second round. And that place, it just, Sean Payton fell in love with him. Perfect fit. And that's how it worked out. And listen, Jackson Dark doesn't go seven, which again, maybe let's put a 25, 30% chance at most at this point. New Orleans is a possibility at nine.
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Right. And everyone's like, well, they brought Derek Carr back. Yeah, one more year. But this would actually be a perfect time to get a rookie quarterback as we work through all the salary stuff, not force him out there for year one. So I think Jackson Dart could be a top 10 pick. But if he's not, then it's like, you know, we talk about 21 to Pittsburgh or a team. That's the other thing.
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Either the Browns or the Giants are very likely to take Shudor. Whichever team doesn't, the Browns are picking at 33, which is the first pick of the second round. The Giants are picking one spot after that. I think you'll see one of those teams, whichever one doesn't get a quarterback, wind up moving into the first round.
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Maybe it's to pick 19 to Tampa or 20 to Denver to try to secure Jackson Dart and also to get that fifth year. In the NFL, there's a fifth year option for the first round player. So you want to get that for that extra year of security as an organization.
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Absolutely. Let's bring it back to the top four, right? It's a puzzle. Yeah. And we know one, we've got one of the four pieces of the puzzle with those four picks. I feel very strongly like we've got it planted in there, right? So now figuring out the other three, it's almost like the rest of the draft starts at pick five. Yeah.
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Like Mason Graham and Tyler Warren and the running backs and all this. But the first four picks, it's like, how does this work? Right.
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And I put it in there because I wound up with Abdul Carter in the newsletter, in the mock draft 2.0. I put Abdul Carter in there, but I'm very, very clear to my friends here in New England, like, don't get overly excited because a lot has to happen.
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But if Shador goes two or three, you can buy two jerseys and get rid of one of them because it's going to be Hunter or Carter, period.
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I think they've prepared like most good organizations do. And I'm not saying the Giants have been, but organizations are in free agency, are trying to free themselves up to take the best player in the draft. The Giants obviously have Kayvon Thibodeau and Brian Burns at edge. So you look at it and you say, it's not a huge needle. Who cares?
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Like when you get a player like that at the second most important position, you take him. And so if it goes where Shador is number two, they have their choice. And so that's a good position to be in. But what if Abdul goes one or two? Or what if Abdul goes two, right? And they're sitting there three and Hunter's the only guy.
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Or if Hunter goes two and then Abdul's sitting there, they've got to make sure that they're covered. They re-signed Darius Slayton at wide receiver. They Paulson Adebo at cornerback. So they're covered. But you're talking about excellence versus just solid players.
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Yes. And now you, now you have, and then the opportunity to go get a Jackson dart with that, as you had mentioned. So there's a lot of ways this can play out, but for new England, the only thing you really truly have to pray for is that should door goes number two or three, because then you get either the best or the second best player in this entire draft falling to you at four.
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And that doesn't happen very often.
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I mean, yeah, you had me on the show. No, I had to. Yeah. Yeah.
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Well, the problem is, though, if you're New England, if Shador doesn't go, right? Let's say Cleveland and the Giants pass, and it goes Abdul Carter 2, Hunter 3, or vice versa. Then now you're in, remember I said- You're in membo range. Yes. And Membo's a right tackle.
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Membo's a right tackle in college. And can he kick to the left side? Are they comfortable with that? And Will Campbell's a pure left tackle, but he's got 32 and a half inch arm length. And that's concerning when you're using a top 10 pick. You just want it to be clean. And so, and then you got Jalen Walker from Georgia who would do great things. Right.
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Edge rusher who do great things in Mike Vrabel's defense. But again, you're talking about elite and no matter what the draft, Travis Hunter, Abdul Carter are elite. They're in that top tier to then like, it could be one of like six or seven guys with very similar grades. And now we're, now we are focusing more on the need.
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What's your blood pressure going to be like when Cleveland and the Giants come up to make their... Like during that...
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Yeah, probably.
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Yes. Don't you think? Probably. Probably.
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Yeah, of course you do.
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Unless you're a team behind trying to, the Giants would know if you're willing to give up that pick, you're not, you're not taking them.
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That's the play. We might move back to 789. The Jets are a surprise team. The Saints, whoever.
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It's like a hair. They're basically identical. The tricky part for Hunter is what's the plan, right? And for a team like New England, I've got to believe it's... You don't have Drake May and say, yeah, we just drafted this guy for overall generational talent. He's going to be a nickel corner as a rookie and eventually our starting corner. You might get 20 plays with him on offense.
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It's just not going to happen. So everyone is talking about the moonlighting where you'd like to play him at corner because that's the harder position in terms of developing and developing. the technique and being part of part of 11 there, whereas wide receivers, a little bit more ISO one, it's kind of like an NBA thing, you know?
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A lot of one-on-one stuff. So for New England, I can't imagine that would be the case. I think it would be you're a full-time receiver. We've got our biggest asset in this entire organization is Drake May. And so we've got to assist that.
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Yeah. So it depends on the team. But I'll say this. I think Travis Hunter is more advanced as a wide receiver right now. I think Travis Hunter can be Garrett Wilson with maybe a touch more juice after the catch. So I would have no problem with him being a 50-snap-a-game offensive player and 25 third downs, red zone, that kind of stuff on defense if you can manage all that.
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Like just, it's this random thing. Remember when Dion would come on the field to return a punch or kick? Do you remember like- Or when he would line up at receiver, it was like so exciting.
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The running backs are fascinating to me too, though.
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I just, Cam Hayward's what, 36 now? Right.
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For each of those teams, you look at the Raiders and like some of their other position, like wide receiver, there's no receiver to draft that high. Some of the other position, cornerback, like John A. Barron from Texas, but it's not like, we're not talking about, you know, one of those like elite, elite corners. Uh,
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you look at what Pete Carroll is at and he's not necessarily, you know, going to be the, it depends on what his role winds up being, but Tom Brady is going to play a big part in all of this too. But from a, From the standpoint of how they want to build it, you want to have a great defense. They want to recapture some of the Legion of Doom stuff.
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They want to have a running back like a Marshawn Lynch who can be there. A big banger. Protect the ball. Let the defense take care of a lot of the business on the field. And that's what Jinty is in terms of an every down back. The missed tackles forced. He's just... He's a special back.
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So it makes sense for that organization and for that pick where they are because it's not like they're passing on this elite pass rusher or corner or wide receiver that they shouldn't for a running back. And then for Chicago... They handle their business so well in free agency.
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Three offensive linemen. They're protecting their quarterback. They could go tackle with that spot if Will Campbell's still there. But I also... I have concerns enough with drafting a 32-and-a-half-inch-arm tackle in the top 10. And... If we bring in a running back to go with DeAndre Swift, how much more are we protecting our quarterback by having two backs?
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And so if one goes down, we still have a top shelf back. If both are in there, they're keeping each other fresh. We can run the football. We can take some pressure. I don't know. And we saw what Ben Johnson did with Jameer Gibbs and how quickly that offense went from, you know, 90 to 100. The one player, really.
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Could be, yeah. Isn't that crazy? There's only three starting tackles in the league at the end of the year with sub-33-inch arms. So you're playing... Parcells used to say, we don't want a roster full of exceptions, you know? So that part's concerning.
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No.
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Especially not this year when I'm looking at guys like Quinshawn Judkins from Ohio State and Cam Scadaboo. His tape I liked even more than I thought after watching the awesome things he did this season.
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I don't know that he's going to get there. He might not. But even if not, you've got R.J. Harvey from UCF. You've got D.J. Giddens from Kansas City.
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And so, and sometimes though, when you look at it and say, well, I can get those guys later. Sometimes it's like, hold, hold, you know, and then all of a sudden one goes and there will be this, this run. But I think everyone's going to kind of wait to see where the dominoes start to fall before they jump in.
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Cause no one wants to draft a, no one wants to draft a running back over some of these other premium positions. Even if you're talking about pick 40, they'd rather wait.
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Going back to the Bears, it's kind of what I said earlier, like the good teams, they plug all the holes so that they can pick the best player available. They do have a luxury pick, and you would say, well, how do the Bears have a luxury pick? Well, that would be, to a certain degree, a luxury pick, but it fits what they want to do. But the other part of it is,
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Maybe you say a 10 and you draft an offensive tackle, or maybe you draft an edge rusher, like a Mike Kell Williams from Georgia. Because they are picking it... I've got it right here. 39 and 41 in the second round. Yeah. And so if I... I love Omari and Hampton from UNC at running back.
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But what if I just take a stab at one of these pass rushers and look at what like the Eagles... What if I load up on my D?
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Load up on my D, go get Cam Scadaboo, go get Quinshawn Judkins, one of those guys at 39. I can still draft an offensive lineman or defensive player with that 41st pick. So there's different ways to look at all of this. And that's why I think it's gonna be fascinating. We... We're going to see at least two running backs in the first round, I think three.
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I don't know that we're going to see two in the top 10, but we could.
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I think everyone wants to be so quick to look at the highlights and the spectacular plays and they are spectacular. And then they want to look at his size and then they want to look at the report from Schultz. Was it that where he ran a four, four, eight, I talked to some scouts, they had closer to four, four, five, somewhere in that range, regardless. Um,
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I don't see the dog in him and I don't see the refinement and Drake London wasn't overly refined. He needed a year before he could be a thousand plus yard receiver, but that's the comp, right? Tall, just acrobatic type of guy, but they're, yes, the shades of, but they're not, they're not the same player.
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Absolutely. And he will go. I mean, he could go as high as Dallas at 12, let's say. But I had him going later in the first round. I had him going to the Ravens, kind of at that point, best player available. They could use another receiver. Probably go somewhere in between that range when it's all said and done. But I'm betting on Matthew Golden from Texas.
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If you need a receiver, that's why I gave you Dallas.
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I've got two. And then Emeka Ibuka could be the third that sneaks in from Ohio State. We'll see how he runs in his pro day. But he would be the third that I think has a good chance to go.
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Let me give you another name real quick.
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If you're not getting the receiver that first pick at 38 for New England, Jaden Higgins from Iowa State. Do a little work on him.
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They're looking for a physical receiver.
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I know, but I'm just saying, he's a name that fits what they're looking for.
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I think Jackson dart could be, I'm just looking at it right now.
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I'll give you a guy, everyone coming out of the combine. Nicky Manwari, right, from South Carolina. Really good player.
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I don't think an elite player yet. I think he's still getting there. I think used in the right scheme. I'd love to see him with, I would say... trying to think of Seattle would be a perfect spot, right? McDonald, the way he, he, what he did, Baltimore, Hamilton. I could see that being a really good marriage, but even worry was, was like almost six, four, 220 pounds.
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His combination of like size 40 time, which was four, four flat and vertical broad jump. It had never been done in the history of the combat. Like he's that special of an athlete. It was awesome to watch. I still think the other safety who ran after him and ran a pedestrian time and didn't jump like him.
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And I think Malachi Starks from Georgia could wind up being a top 15 pick ahead of Eamon Worry. And I think that would surprise people right now.
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We haven't talked about this publicly, but there's no better place to do it. I texted Russillo the other day with the old line of the town, the movie. I can't tell you what we're going to do. You can't ever tell us. Whose car are we taking? And I said, your answer needs to be whose car are we going to take? Right.
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And that was in regards to, I wanted to take over his house for the third day of the draft and do a live stream from there. I can't wait. Sounds great. So we're announcing that right now. Without permission, but I figured, who's going to yell at me? You, right? But I would love to do that as part of the day three of the draft to get Russell to run. I'm going to guess...
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I would be more interested in like the three cone or the short shuttle, the lateral agility with all that weightlifting. I just can't see that ending well.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Special teamer effort.
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Yeah. Kind of like that celebrity basketball game he played. I'll never forget that.
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Pretty good money they got for that, huh? Quite the investment.
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Oh yeah.
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All right, so... I mean, you turned me on to the, what is it, Bazana? I had to look up who Bazana was.
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Yeah, I actually did. And I'm sitting here, right? And I'm watching tape. And it was running back. So I'm on the eighth or ninth running back. And I've got like 20 more guys to do. And then we're texting about that. And I was like, you know what? I'm going to stop down for a minute. I thought I was going to take like 10 minutes and look through and see.
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Then I kind of got into my own little deep dive. All right, so everyone wants to say Shador's got a second-round grade for a lot of teams. I talked to two personnel people at the Combine who were in the 15-minute interviews with Shador Sanders for teams that are drafting in the top 10 that need a quarterback. And I was surprised.
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The information that came out was, and I'll kind of paraphrase or summarize, we got the vibe after meeting with all these other players and all the years of doing this, you can sense how important these meetings are for the individual player when they come in. For Shador, with us, we didn't get the sense that he cared an awful lot about what we thought of him.
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Right. Exactly. And so I'm getting that information. And I look at him as a player who in certain systems, certain situations, he's got a chance to really succeed in the league, but he's not for everybody. He's not a big, strong arm, mobile quarterback. He's none of those things. Right. Right.
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It's the biggest surprise you'll see. And he was talking about, I'm going to run faster than my dad. I'm like, I don't know if you're going to, if you were to run a 40, I don't know if you're going to break like 4'8". Yeah. So you've got all of that. And so now the reports come out from different people in the league. We don't even have a first round grade on them.
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And so I get it because in the teams that are willing to talk are the teams that don't have interest, right? So that's kind of the backdrop. And then you send me some of that stuff. And I had heard that Cleveland's a place that he has interest in. But that's a short list. And there are some teams.
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And I think those teams that I talked to that he didn't have the overwhelming interviews with are the ones that are on the list where Coach Prime's been telling us since, what, October, November, that there's going to be some teams that my son's just not going to go play for. So you start to put all these things together.
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And I just took a minute and I went back and I looked at Kevin Stefanski's history. What has made him successful? What has he been successful with? Well, Case Keenum, he won 11 games with as a coach. Kirk Cousins, he won 10 games with. And a quarterback coach, offensive coordinator, like hands-on with those guys. And so it got me thinking like, The skill sets are the same.
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Not big, not mobile, not elite arms, but process quickly. That's his secret sauce. That's what makes him special. Would you put Flacco in there? Flacco, modern-day Flacco, still has a big arm, but not like, you know, the Baltimore Ravens in his prime, Flacco, and has never been overly mobile.
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So, yeah, so he's winning games with these guys where pocket passers don't have these traits, but they all process quickly. They're accurate passers. That's what Shador is. And so now I'm looking at it, I'm saying, Cleveland is in purgatory salary cap-wise because of the Deshaun Watson deal. So if I'm Andrew Barry,
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What's happening? It's Todd McShay, and I'm back with a new home and a new show at The Ringer and Spotify, The McShay Show. It's a video and audio podcast coming to you year-round with all my NFL draft information, big boards, mock drafts, and player movement. Plus, I'll be chatting with some of my best friends in football, including some of your favorite football analysts.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Round 1 NFL Reactions With Cousin Sal
During the week, we'll have episodes on Tuesdays and Thursdays that'll include discussions about my player rankings, who's rising, who's falling, and who your NFL team should be keeping an eye on. Plus, we'll be reacting each week to the college football playoff polls and giving you previews and picks for each Saturday slate.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Round 1 NFL Reactions With Cousin Sal
In addition, I'll have episodes on Saturday nights with my immediate reaction to the full day in college football every week. So if you love the college game, the NFL, the draft, or all of it like me, make sure to like, follow, subscribe, and get ready for the McShay Show on the Ringer, Spotify, and wherever you watch or listen to podcasts.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
An Official Celtics Funk, Plus Todd McShay and Million-Dollar Picks
Going against the Chiefs, you mean?
The Bill Simmons Podcast
An Official Celtics Funk, Plus Todd McShay and Million-Dollar Picks
30, 21.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
An Official Celtics Funk, Plus Todd McShay and Million-Dollar Picks
And now you're staring at Hunter who you don't need.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
An Official Celtics Funk, Plus Todd McShay and Million-Dollar Picks
Oh, no. Yeah, the Levis word.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
An Official Celtics Funk, Plus Todd McShay and Million-Dollar Picks
It's in play.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
An Official Celtics Funk, Plus Todd McShay and Million-Dollar Picks
Right. Yeah.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
An Official Celtics Funk, Plus Todd McShay and Million-Dollar Picks
I agree with this.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
An Official Celtics Funk, Plus Todd McShay and Million-Dollar Picks
All right, it's time.
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An Official Celtics Funk, Plus Todd McShay and Million-Dollar Picks
You choose.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
An Official Celtics Funk, Plus Todd McShay and Million-Dollar Picks
Could be.
The Rewatchables
‘Friday Night Lights’ With Bill Simmons and Mallory Rubin
What's happening? It's Todd McShay, and I'm back with a new home and a new show at The Ringer and Spotify, The McShay Show. It's a video and audio podcast coming to you year-round with all my NFL draft information, big boards, mock drafts, and player movement. Plus, I'll be chatting with some of my best friends in football, including some of your favorite football analysts.
The Rewatchables
‘Friday Night Lights’ With Bill Simmons and Mallory Rubin
During the week, we'll have episodes on Tuesdays and Thursdays that'll include discussions about my player rankings, who's rising, who's falling, and who your NFL team should be keeping an eye on. Plus, we'll be reacting each week to the college football playoff polls and giving you previews and picks for each Saturday slate.
The Rewatchables
‘Friday Night Lights’ With Bill Simmons and Mallory Rubin
In addition, I'll have episodes on Saturday nights with my immediate reaction to the full day in college football every week. So if you love the college game, the NFL, the draft, or all of it like me, make sure to like, follow, subscribe, and get ready for the McShea Show on The Ringer, Spotify, and wherever you watch or listen to podcasts.
The Rewatchables
‘Disclosure’ With Bill Simmons, Van Lathan, and Wosny Lambre
Is Bill a corporate maneuverer? Is that what's happening? He's moving to Chesapeake City. I'm just looking right now to see when the sweat is going to drop. I love this idea that Bill is the Donald Sutherland of the ringer. He's moving to Chesapeake City.
The Rewatchables
‘Disclosure’ With Bill Simmons, Van Lathan, and Wosny Lambre
Here's the plot really quickly.
The Rewatchables
‘Disclosure’ With Bill Simmons, Van Lathan, and Wosny Lambre
First day. First day. Harassment stuff flies back and forth.
The Rewatchables
‘Disclosure’ With Bill Simmons, Van Lathan, and Wosny Lambre
I love that. Ride or die.
The Rewatchables
‘Disclosure’ With Bill Simmons, Van Lathan, and Wosny Lambre
So good. That is so funny. What does that suit man have? What does that suit man have out of Tom?
The Rewatchables
‘Disclosure’ With Bill Simmons, Van Lathan, and Wosny Lambre
His dick's still hard, Jim!
The Rewatchables
‘Disclosure’ With Bill Simmons, Van Lathan, and Wosny Lambre
Yeah, he gets overacted.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
I've got over 30 graded with grades in the top three rounds. So you would think, well, we don't have to get our edge guy early. We can get him. But there's a big difference to me. And the interior is a little deeper, and I don't feel like the drop-off is as massive. There are six guys that are edge defenders that are probably going to go in the first round.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
And if one doesn't, it might have to do with some character and some baggage type stuff. But we're talking about Abdul Carter, the two Georgia guys, right? Jalen Walker and Mike Hill Williams, Mike Green, James Pierce, and Donovan Azaraku. I think that's all of them. But there's six guys that you feel really good about in the first round. And I know, DJ, we've talked about this before.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
You kind of – when you go through this process – it's kind of this combo pick thing. Every general manager I've talked to, it's the combo package. Okay, so if we take an edge here and we need a running back, what's the running back that's going to be available? Well, maybe it's Quinshawn Judkins or Travion Henderson in round two.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
But if I go running back here with Jinty and I still need to get an edge in round two, I get gentee. That's wonderful. But now we're talking about like Nick Skorton from Texas A&M or, you know, or Brayden Swinson later in the first. So later in the second. So there's a big drop off.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
And I think a lot of teams right now, as they're putting together their boards and trying to kind of plan for the weekend is if, all right, if we go with this non-premium position player in the first round, even though we have the grade that matches up, what's the drop off at the other position that we're looking to attack?
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
I've compiled a lot of notes over the years talking to offensive tackles about pass rushers. And the thing that they all typically say is, I don't care if you run a 4-3 off the edge. If you don't have power, then I can prepare for that 4-3. And vice versa. If you're all power, but you don't threaten me with speed, then...
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
I'll just bow up and I'll get in a good solid stance and I'll be ready for the bull rush. It's the guys that can do both and threaten with both. The speed, quickness, and power. The speed and quickness is one aspect of the game and then the power being the other.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
The other thing is, and I go back like Bill Belichick, one of the first things I learned in scouting, he said I had a dinner with him and Gary Horton and Scott Piolli. Study the tape that's applicable. you know? And, and I think anytime it doesn't take a super scout or a genius to figure out like, all right, there's five, five games where he's going up against offensive tackles.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
Maybe it's two, but whatever that number is, find those games and see how much he threatened and how many problems, what kind of havoc he wreaked against those players. because it doesn't matter what he does against, you know, subpar guys that aren't going to play in the league, focus on those games. That's going to give you the answer to the test.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
And when you watch these guys and whether, you know, Mike green, there's not a lot of applicable tape, you know, it's not, it doesn't because he's playing at Marshall and yeah, Ohio state. And everyone says, well, the Simmons, well, he went up against Josh Simmons twice in that game. He had two matchups against him. So again,
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
I think that's why it was so important at the Senior Bowl, what he did in a couple days of practice. It stands out when you start to stack and watch tape after tape of all of these guys, what the difference is. Typically, it's the ability to win both ways.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
I mean, we could have a 10-minute discussion on Vernon Golsan and all that, but I remember the draft.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
It's so much easier.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
It has. It has. I do feel bad for our buddies who are area scouts, though. Like, just talking to them, like, yeah, man, I used to go into Ole Miss. And this is more NIL and transfer portal, you know. And so, honestly, that part makes it easier, too, because we're like, They wind up transferring.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
If you're a great player, like 90% of the guys who are great players at small school level, obviously it's kind of hard because every year you want to find those small school guys. But there's not many of them anymore because they're all playing against... They all transferred. They graduated.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
My guy, Eduardo, I got to give him props. He's the best clip guy in the business. You got the best
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
They graduate to the highest level, but these poor scouts, man, like I was talking to one, he was like, yeah, I used to go into Ole Miss and it was like 12, 14 players I'd have to do in the summer and get ready, you know, do all. And it's not just watching, it's the background checks and it's, you know, figuring out who they are as the person and all that. And he's like this year at 30. Yeah.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
It's just like not sustained. It's insane. The number of players that each school has that you've got to evaluate. But yeah, that's a sitcom.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
The senior bowl is the great equalizer for a lot of these guys, though. Honestly, I don't know that a lot of guys would have been drafted as high, and I don't know that people would have understood that, oh, they're capable. That's why it's so important. The East-West Shrine game, the senior bowl. The offensive linemen are the toughest, right?
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
Because, like, they're just not going up against the dudes that someone from Michigan or Texas or Georgia or, you know, like, they're just not going up against those dudes. And, like, Kelvin Banks, it was like murderer's rope.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
his tape every week, it was a new, like first or second round defensive line. So, so you get a really good feel for these guys, but I will say this, like we've seen a lot of guys go through mobile Alabama, right? Like Toronto Armstead, Allie Marpet, Cody mock, Dylan Ray dunes, Quinn, Quinn minors. Like,
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
And this year with Gray Zabel, it gives you a confidence that, okay, all those guys have gone on to have good careers. It was small school, but they handled their business in Mobile in that setting, and the same with Zabel. But, yeah, those are the toughest evaluations, the guys in the trenches.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
So Cleveland is always good for this stuff.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
I like Tyler Shuck a lot. And yes, they're the three broken bones. And so you can chalk that up however you want. Some guys are more... more prone to having those kinds of injuries. But if you're, if you're banging the table for him, you're saying they're broken bones. It's not like, you know, some chronic Achilles or, you know, something that this that's typically going to be degenerative. Right.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
When I talk to teams though, the thing with him and they, and the maturity, what he's been through, all of that is the biggest question is I don't mind that he's 25. And I love the maturity. I love all those things. And I see the tools, because he's bigger than all these other guys. He's faster on a straight line than all these other guys. His arm stacks up, all those things.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
It's one year of starting. So now I'm getting a 25-year-old who's only had one full year starting in college. Where do I in the NFL get him more game reps? And we're seeing all these guys come in the league, like Bo Nix with 60-plus starts. Jaden Daniels with 56 starts.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
Guys who were having success early on, we've seen in recent years, are taking advantage of the transfer portal and the extra years in college. But to answer your question, I'm going with Jackson Dart here. And I think Jackson Dart, I really like him. His versus pressure, clip reel, 161 snaps. Oh, he hangs in there. Oh, my gosh. There's a lot to like with him.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
I agree. And obviously, you know, the, the last minute, And Giants brass flying out to Boulder, Colorado for the Shador Sanders private workout is has added some intrigue. Right. It's interesting because I had a conversation with with the general manager this weekend. And he because I was I don't want to say I was closing the book, but I was kind of like, all right. Yeah.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
It might take a minute, but I got a minute with him if I'm one of these teams.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
I'm going to go Omari and Hampton. I'll jump in on this one, DJ. It's interesting talking to teams. As good as Hampton is, there's a gap. So I do think, I don't know that it will be, although I just talked to a team recently, they said that they wouldn't say they expected it, but it wouldn't be surprising if Hampton was still there at the start of the second night of the draft.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
So, but I just think, The Chiefs could use that, an explosive running back, someone who's a difference maker in the backfield with Mahomes. Honestly, I could see a running back in the first two or three picks for the Chiefs this year. I think interior defensive line is a spot that they've got to address. Offensive line, obviously, they want to bolster and bring in competition and depth.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
But I could see running back in one of their first three picks this year.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
There's a lot of arguments right now going on about Ted McMillan, and I think he could go as high as 12 to Dallas. I think that that's probably the jumping-off point. There's a lot more frustration with him. The pros are very obvious, right? It's the length, the height, 6'4", 219, acrobatic catches, balls in the air. I think people want him to become –
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
the big time playmaker on the outside and that big time X, right? And Drake London is the comp that a lot of people want to give out. I thought Drake London was a little bit more of a dog though, coming out. I thought that he more aggressive, more just attention to detail. Wasn't a great route runner. Took him about a year, but now he's a thousand plus receiving yard receiver for the Falcons.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
Abdul Carter, three Giants. And then we'll see how this whole thing plays out. And he's like, talk to some people. It's split. I wouldn't say split. It's a little bit contentious inside the Giants draft room. And there are some people that are pushing hard for Shador.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
So I look at, The frustration that talking to people in the league, and I see it on tape, it's not finishing routes. It's lack of attention to detail, not doing the little things. When Jed Fish was there, by all accounts, it was kind of foot on throat. We're going to be there and consistently work.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
And this past year with the frustrating quarterback, with a different program, it was not the same guy in the building in practice and those sorts of things. So that's the kind of the back and forth that's going on in draft rooms with Tet.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
Yeah, I can't disagree. Yeah, you'd love to get an edge there. But he's one of the best five football players in this draft. He's a difference maker. That entire offense ran through a tight end, and that's rare to see at that high of a level. And quite honestly, if he gets past seven, I'll be surprised. Yeah, with the New York Jets. And then I'd be really surprised if he got past 10.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
So if he's there, you don't even think about it. You don't look at your position needs or anything else. You just walk that card in.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
I also wonder, too, at this point in time with ownership, we hear a lot of stories after the fact of ownership getting involved when it comes to the quarterback position and drafting that high. So... That part's fascinating. The other thing, though, the conversations I'm having, and I'm curious what you're hearing, DJ, it's like, I think everyone views it as, yeah, Cam Ward's going one, right?
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
And why does it matter that Shador's on the board?
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
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No, it does. No, no, it does. Because you're saying it. Shador's on the board.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
Yeah, that was awkward, man. I can't remember a moment that I wanted to be so far away from. Please don't come to me on this. I just...
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
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You literally gave him the get-out-of-jail-free card. Yeah, we gave you a pass.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
All right, so I'm in Atlanta, and I just gave away Penix, who showed some promise last year, who I absolutely love.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
Yeah, to get a player in Shador that we're talking about could, if he doesn't go to the Giants at three, fall to 21. Who are the options again? So I get Chateau at nine. I'm Atlanta and I just made an epically bad decision. Did you?
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
Titans, that thing's done. But then it's like, we kind of want our cake and eat it too. Like, We're interested in these other quarterbacks, whether it's Shador Sanders, Jackson Dart, I think is more more fits for like what New Orleans wants. There's a lot of talk about Jalen Milrow early second. And now he's invited to the to the draft. And that adds some intrigue.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
And then it makes you want to not like him?
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
And meanwhile, Atlanta has, I think, five picks in the entire draft. So now we're down to like probably two picks in this entire draft to move up to get Shador. No, they're getting picks. They're getting picks. That's the whole point. Yeah. Oh, you know what? They're getting picks. I'm going to write this one up. You lost me at pennants. You did. I'm with you, DJ. You lost me at pennants.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
Um, Everyone is saying, and correct me if I'm wrong, DJ, but everyone I've talked to, everywhere I look, it's Ashton Jinty to the Raiders at six, right?
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
I'll give you a couple of pass catchers that I completely understand why they won't. But I could see we look back at the end of their rookie year or after their second year and are like, man, maybe they should have gone in the first. And I think Mason Taylor at the tight end position has a chance to go late first. You know, the Eagles in their situation with Goddard, I think that's a possibility.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
He's just so safe. And I think there's more in his game than what we even saw in LSU. Yeah, yeah. So, but Elijah Arroyo, he's had the injuries and the production was never great. And they passed, they spread the ball around in Miami with Cam Moore this past year. But my goodness, he has traits where I could look, I could see us after a year or two being like, how did six, four plus, you know,
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
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Tyler Shuck is a name that keep hearing talking to people in the league really would like to get him in the second round. But you never know if there's that one team that trades up.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
251 pounds, running the way he does, the explosiveness. He's just become a weapon in the NFL. And another, like, I love a lot of slot guys or smaller guys this year. Jalen Knoll from Iowa State. His route running is like a thing of beauty. There should be, like, music played when you're sitting watching tape.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
Just, like, the crispness, the leverage, the stems, the in and out of breaks, competitiveness. He ran a 4.39, I think it was, at the Combine in addition to... And I'm not saying he's Ladd-McConkie, but I think Ladd wound up going late in the first. I think Knowles is going to probably be later, like mid to late second. And could, I mean, talking to teams, maybe could be there early third.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
But I think those two players are going to wind up out. Wherever they get drafted, they have a really good chance to outplay their draft slot.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
I'm fascinated to see because if Cleveland passes on quarterback, which we all expect at two, and the Giants pass on Shador at three and take Abdul Carter, now you've got Cleveland at 33, Giants at 34, the Saints at 40, all kind of sitting there waiting, trying to figure out when do you have to move up. I'm told that Shador is a favorite of Mike Tomlin's and the Pittsburgh Steelers.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
And I think college coaches are it's all about recruiting. Right. My guy's the best. And here's let me tell you a story about him in practice. And I get that because you as a young player, high school kid, you want to see that your coach is going to promote you and and, you know, help your help your journey, if you will, to the NFL. Yeah.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
Uh, but when, when you get to talk to some coaches off mic, if you will, um, and to hear like, or who were the problems? Like I remember day ball, like that clip, right? With the giants and their war room talking about Nick Saban. I talked to Nick and he used to work for Nick Saban and the two guys that were problems.
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jayden daniels brock bowers we didn't have answers for those guys like i'm just like i don't know what your board is i don't know what you're considering but if you want to ask me who are the two problems that we had it was bowers and daniels and so i i find that stuff fascinating too because if if a coach is willing to actually talk about like the game plan and how difficult it was to prepare for some of these guys there's there's some good information there
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
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So it's kind of that range of, all right, if they don't go in the top nine, then where do you have to trade up to go get that guy? Or do you sit back and wait? So all the conversations I'm having are about like, is there, you know, Atlanta at 15 only has five picks. Minnesota at 24 only has four picks in the entire draft. Could they be teams that move out for a team that's coming up?
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
It absolutely is the system. And there's a lot to, I mean, we literally could do an hour on this, right? And I think we're in a unique position because the background checks, the information we get from scouts and personnel departments and former FBI agents and everything that they do to get all this information. And more so this year than ever, I'm getting stories about
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This guy, he made $4 million over the course of his career, or $2 million, or $6 million, or whatever it is, and he's going to be broke when he gets to the league. And it's the people he's surrounding himself with.
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And now that group of people is kind of always... And whether it's the agent, the agent's runner, all the stuff that we started to hear about going into their rookie year, we're now hearing about it coming out of high school. And we're hearing more stories like... recently I was just talking to a GM and he was saying like, yeah, and we're just, we're like, he made all this money.
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Like dad spends half of it at the casinos. We've got, he's got 10 people in a circle and they've all got their hands. So like big picture, I think we, I think all the rational people can agree on a couple of things. One is it is a massive business. multi-billion dollar industry.
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And these individuals are putting their livelihoods, it seems extreme, but they're putting a lot on the line and they deserve to be paid. Second part is the system, there needs to be a governing body. And I point to Nick Saban, and maybe it's not Nick, but it's got to be someone who actually just cares about college football.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
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not about the politics of it, not just about putting a system in place where where the assistant coaches are going to get so run down. Guys from college football are talking to like, you know, Jeff Halfley recently when he left Boston College. I just want to coach ball again. Like everyone's having to do so many things that are not related to football. So there's got to be some kind of CBA.
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There's got to be some kind of salary cap. I also think this and I know I'll take heat for this. There's got to be some kind of system set in place where there's a trust set up.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
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Because I know when I was 18, 19, 20, 21, if you gave me all that money and if I had a group of people that was trying to get that money from me and I was trying to live this certain life, all of a sudden that money probably would have been gone. And I would have appreciated it if I was able to access that money later and it was protected.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
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So that's fascinating. Like from our perspective to sit back and kind of watch and wait and see if Shador doesn't go three, this draft is going to be a lot of fun on the first night.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
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So I don't know that all those things will happen, but I'd like to see steps with the right people
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in place steps moving forward towards something that that caps it makes it reasonable players still get paid a lot of money because they deserve it but they're able to hold on to that and that money means something to them and when they get into their 20s and in their 30s and life has much bigger decisions and there's some longevity to that money and it's not just in the moment mom and dad have their hands out uncles and aunts and cousins and friends and all like
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
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The reports I'm getting from these background checks is scary, and it's heading in a direction that no one wants to see it go.
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I get excited. I get excited. So I'm like, you know.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
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DJ, DJ, you ready for this? Yes, sir. I called, I texted Rosillo and basically like, you know, the, the old town, the town, right. When it was like, we're going to hurt somebody. We're going to go do something. Right. And, and, and the response was like, whose car are we taking? Right. I basically played that out on text. We're taking over Russillo's pad on Saturday.
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
We're going to do a live stream Saturday of the draft. We had to find something different and fun. So we're going to go eat his food, drink his drinks, storm his house. How many hours is it again? Don't worry about it. It's too late. I am worried about it. You already said yes, and I'm trying to get him to run us to an hour. I'm trying to get him to run a 40-yard.
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The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
It's not an hour, so just hunker down, big boy. I'll have you done and ready for the NBA playoffs that night. I know that's all you care about, but I want to get him to run a 40-yard dash. We haven't talked about that part yet. On the sand? Uh, well, I want him to have a good time.
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So that's, yeah, look, I'll just tell you going a sand adjusted 40 times. Yes, exactly.
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No, I said a sub five.
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Sub five. Yeah. I think like a five, one at this point in our life, five, five, one, five, an injury free five. One is a W it's a W. You know, it's great for your body.
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I would be scared to death to run as fast as I could for 40 yards. Yeah.
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You know what's interesting, DJ? It's the last thing anyone wants to talk about when I talk to teams. This offensive line group is more so than in most years. There's question marks, right? And whether it's age and immaturity or a past incident or whatever it is. Let's just throw a blanket over. There are a handful of guys that we're talking about.
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in the first-round range with these offensive tackles, that it's like, yeah, but there's a little concern. And so the cleanest of the guys, I would say absolutely is Campbell. Campbell's one of the cleanest prospects in the entire draft. And then I would say Kelvin Banks Jr., whose tape wasn't great either.
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That Georgia tape you can pull up, and there's a couple other games where it doesn't match up. But there's 42 starts, and the good loader only makes so many people that are that big that can move like that, that have a little pop in their hand. So I think you're going to see, whether it's Campbell at four, Banks Jr. from Texas going at, I don't know, 10 or 11, Chicago, San Francisco.
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I think those guys will come off the board earlier than maybe the tape says. Because history tells us, I think it's like 5.7 tackles go in the first round the last three years. And it's like 1.3 or 1.7 in the second round. If you don't get that guy in the first round, there's a drought after that.
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And so I think teams are looking at it, and the Patriots specifically, trying to get some leadership in that offensive line room with their star quarterback, trying to develop him in Drake May. That like, all right, maybe we don't get a superstar here.
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But we're going to sleep really well Thursday night going into Friday, the draft, knowing that we got a guy that's going to be ready to play and is going to bring a lot of leadership to this organization.
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I kind of there's a couple of ways to look at it. First of all, talent always trumps trends, if you will. And in 2017, we're in the midst of everyone spreading things out and pass happy offenses and and the college game kind of trickling up with more tempo and all these different things and the running back position being devalued.
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Yet like Leonard Fournette and Christian McCaffrey went in the top 10 and 30 running backs were drafted that year. So it starts with the talent. And this is one of the most talented groups.
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I don't know about DJ, but that I've ever evaluated from top to bottom, especially when you get past like the Genties and the Omari and Hamptons and you look and you're like, wait, I can get that guy in the third round. I can get an RJ Harvey or DJ Giddens or Dylan Sampson, like the third, fourth round. So yeah, I think that's the jumping off point.
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I do think in a league where everyone's complaining about all these two high shells and you have to, you know, you're taking away some of these great quarterbacks in the deep ball and all that stuff. There's a counter to it. And a lot of people, not everybody, but a lot of people complained when Detroit took Jameer Gibbs that high in the first round. Not a premium position.
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Running backs being devalued. What are they doing? Well, Brad Holmes, the general manager, he knew his personnel, knew his offensive coordinator and Ben Johnson, and knew they needed to have a counter to what was going on in terms of defensive coverages and the schemes that were being played against his offensive attack. So I think Jinty, no matter where we are in the NFL, is a top 10 pick.
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No matter what era it is, no matter what emphasis it is on the passing game or running, he's a top 10 pick. I do think last year, watching Saquon and watching Derrick Henry and watching some of the impact of the running game and knowing what's going on defensively, we saw more of an emphasis on the running back position. I think this year it'll play out in the draft.
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There's going to be a lot of backs that go in the first three rounds.
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The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
DJ, I went back and looked last year, right? And I think this is a big difference in the two drafts, 2024 and 2025. I don't have the exact numbers in front of me, but I think it was 9% of the first round were non-premium position players. We talk about premium, obviously quarterback, pass rusher, cornerbacks that cover the wide receivers and the wide receivers have become...
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The Annual Todd McShay–Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Fest!
And offensive tackles. So all the non, like interior offensive line, linebacker, safety, tight ends. It was 91% of the first round was premium positions. And then only 17% in the second round. It was the non-premium positions. And then you got to the third round where everyone's comfortable taking those guys. 54% were the non-premium position. This year is going to be different, man.
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We get two guards, Zabel and Booker, who are going to probably go in the first round. We've got the two tight ends, maybe three with Mason Taylor at the very end coming out of LSU. We've got running backs.
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You know, like so it's going to be really interesting this year how teams are going to kind of have to throw that premium picks on premium positions out the window because you just you got to chase the talent.
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I think offensive tackle, we kind of covered that, right? I think there's a drop-off when you get past the first five or so. And that's typical. What's interesting this year is the edge class, we could have a record-setting number of defensive linemen. Interior and edge go in the first three rounds. I think 26, I went back 30 years, 26 is the most we've had in a given class.
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It was, you know, missed the suspensions and all the time. But when he's on the field, that offense is different. And so they were willing to take that risk. They knew coming into his rookie year, he wasn't going to play a whole lot, but they knew like looking in the future, if we're going to take it to another level, we need difference makers here in order to make this whole thing click.
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There are great sources on it because they were in the room. But I'm glad you said the phrase pissed off or pissed people off. He didn't piss anyone off. I think just hearing some of the backlash and all that,
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That's the thing. And it's a perfect opportunity to explain it. I think people need to understand my conversations were it was not with a disgruntled person. NFL executive and crusty old guy who was pissed off because he didn't treat him with respect. It wasn't the case at all. The NFL has kind of swept that guard out of the league.
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If you're an executive today, you've got to be hip with what's going on. You've got to understand the players. I think you have a great appreciation for it in the NBA. I don't know if there's a league in American sports that has more player empowerment than the NBA. And we're seeing that continue to rise in the NFL and executives are like coaches are changing.
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Their style of change, like the executives are changing. They understand the NIL. They understand this, you know, wave of player coming in. No one I talked to was pissed off. They weren't mad. They weren't like, we were disrespected. How could he? It wasn't that.
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What led to this? It was... Just having conversations. One guy I'm talking about, Tyler Shuck, and how impressed I was with an interview I did with him. It was interesting. Shador didn't feel like he cared all that much about what we thought of him. It was different. But you've got to also understand, these guys have been through a lot. You're not sitting in that room.
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of the top key executives that are going to be part of the decision-making process on a first round pick first round quarterback. If you haven't been through a lot of wars, right? There's not like 28 year old kids in there. They've seen it all, man. I can think about all the reports you've gotten like years later from players that we've worked with at ESPN or like they weren't picking me.
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I just think, you know, he's a player that was always kind of in that late first round discussion. I think the way the NFL is now, with looking for long safeties, chess pieces, guys that can cover. We've seen what Hamilton's done in Baltimore. Just that versatility as an athlete. For me, he stole the show. You just don't see guys like that move and jump and participate in the way he did.
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I didn't care. So it wasn't, There was no like there was no confrontation.
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And the people I talked to weren't overly surprised. They weren't offended. They weren't. It was just like, yeah, like that. That one was different. It was interesting because he clearly like it just like wasn't because you got to remember, too, they're sitting there and they're stacking these things like speed dating. Right. It's like one guy after another.
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And 98, 99 percent of the people who come in this room, the players, they're like, yes, sir. You know, like intense. This is the biggest job interview of their lives. And so they care what the people in that room think of them. And they've worked really hard with like PR coaches and how to present their story and present themselves well.
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And so when one guy comes in and it's really different than all the other ones, It's not, I mean, I don't, nothing about it was contentious. Nothing about it was disrespectful. It was just, there was a different level of professionalism. Don't get the sense that he, you know, cared an awful lot about what we thought. And to be quite honest with you, I don't think anyone's surprised.
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This is the narrative we've been talking about since like September, remember? Coach Prime has been out there since the early season.
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And I quoted in the McShay report, the newsletter, that, you know, I get an interview, one of a dozen that we've heard or seen where Deion Sanders has come out and said, you know, my son and Travis, there's some teams that I just, you know, that I don't want him to go to. And we're going to kind of vet that out. And so these are probably just two of the teams that,
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These are probably the two of the teams that are not on that list of teams where they want him placed. What I find interesting, and I always like to spin it forward. I'm not here to like, oh, you won't believe it. Satoru came in and he didn't care what they thought. That's not the point of this. The point of this is putting perspective on it.
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This perspective we have to have is, all right, we're armed with this information for months now. Shador with his team and starting at the top and the only decision made, the final decision maker in all this is his father. And Coach Prime has told us all along that they're going to kind of weed some teams out. Doesn't want his son going to play for that organization. And he's got that right.
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He's been around the league. He played in the league. He's handled it a different way his whole life and it's worked. And so that's how he's going to handle it. So when we hear this, it doesn't come as a shocking news to me. Didn't come as a shocking event to the executives that were in the room. But it's fascinating to me because there's only really six teams that we're looking at in the top 10.
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with quarterback needs that we think are likely to draft one of these quarterbacks. Cam Ward's going to one of those. Whether it's Tennessee at one, more likely Cleveland at two, or a strong possibility as well of a team moving up like the Giants from three. So Cam takes one of those out. I'm not saying that these two teams are like, well, he's off our board.
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But very clearly, that's not in the plan. So now we're down to three teams. And if Tennessee passes and goes with Abdul Carter and Cam Ward goes number two to Cleveland, now we're down to two teams. So either... And I think the former is a lot more likely than the latter, but either they already know where he's going or it's down to two teams and one of those two teams is going to draft him.
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And so he's not all that worried about the other teams. Or we're in for a wild first night of the draft with where Shador Sanders winds up.
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If he's there, I do. Why? Um...
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The tape, obviously, that's the foundation. I think he has a skill set that is highly intriguing. I think you see the arm, the creativity, the arm angles, the ability to extend. Again, we're talking quarterback four, quarterback five last year. But these teams have a needed quarterback. He has talent. It can be developed into a good starter in the NFL.
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And so history tells us the team's going to take a swing. I see a clear difference between Cam and Shador in terms of potential upside, just naturally, you know, more athletic, stronger arm. And everyone I've talked to in the league does. So that's the foundation. I also find it fascinating when no one wants to bring up someone's name.
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When I'm talking to teams that are looking to quarterback near the top of the draft and they don't even bring up his name. that they just don't want to talk about it because they, you know what I mean? That's always the indicator to me. What are you talking about?
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If you're having conversations about the top quarterbacks in the draft and they, and they're much more interested in talking about some of the other guys or other positions rather than, like Cam Ward never came up. Unless I ask specifically, but it's just because the teams that are interested in Cam Moore don't want his name. They don't want his name coming out of their mouths.
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And it was the same quotes from everyone. Like maybe the highest character guy in this entire class. He's a guard. Don't love drafting a guard guard in the first round. I kept being told he's going earlier than you think. Um, The legendary speech he gave to his teammates during the season this year. Interviews were awesome. You just know what you're getting.
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The GM that drafts him is going to take a ton of heat because it's a guard somewhere in the top 15. But he's also going to sleep like a baby that night because he knows he just got his starting guard. He's going to be a star at guard for a long, long time. So he was the name that kept coming up. Maxwell Hairston. Cornerback from Kentucky before the workout. A lot of buzz about him.
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Playmaker, school, tied the school record three pick sixes, ball hawk, zone and man cover corner. He can do it all. Not a great tackler, but he'll do enough. But Maxwell Hairston, I did not view. I thought he was kind of early second in that second tier of corners. He's going in the first. Then he ran at 5'11 and change, 183 pounds.
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He runs a 4.28, fastest 40 of any player at any position at the combine. 39.5-inch vertical, 10.9 broad. So these are like – these are top tier workout numbers to go with the tape. That's outstanding.
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So those were two of the guys that, and, and, and honestly, there's a lot of love in the league for Jackson dart and there's immense growing intrigue would be the best way to phrase it for Tyler shuck. The two quarterbacks that are kind of in that second tier. I think there's kind of a, a groundswell for, and I don't think organizations are talking to one another.
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It's a groundswell for me as I'm starting to talk to a lot of teams. There's an understanding that Cam's going to go one or two. Shador probably has his spot secured or one or two teams he's narrowed it down to, but there are some teams that just don't see it the way that maybe the public sees it in some regards. But much more intriguing is drafting a great player in the first round.
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If you've got pick, I don't know, three, if Shador's not your guy and Cam's gone, if you've got pick six with the Raiders, seven with the Jets, nine with the Saints, let's draft one of these really good players. It's not an elite group like every other year, but let's get a high-impact starter. And then let's maybe it's Dart. we trade back into the first and get that fifth year option.
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Maybe it's Tyler Shuck who, yeah, you can say he's 25 and had three injuries, but their bone breaks. They're not like, it's not chronic stuff. That's going to affect them long-term. We're protecting our quarterbacks a lot longer. I'm not worried about the next guy's job. I'm worried about my, my, my job. And he's the most NFL ready of all these quarterbacks. Tyler Shuck is he's bigger. He's faster.
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He's got just as strong an arm. Like he's up there with cam ward, stronger arm than dart, stronger arm than should door. Ball placement's outstanding on tape. It's just one year of tape. I'm telling you, Tyler Shuck is going to be, it won't surprise me if he winds up being the best quarterback from this class when it's all said and done.
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There are a couple of guys that they're like results that I can't unsee.
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It's hard, man, because I, I like Will Campbell a lot on tape. I really do. But I look at it and I see a guy like Armand Membou and his workout numbers, right? And then I look at Campbell and his workout numbers are really good. But Campbell's a left tackle with 32 and 5-8 inch arms. And that's frightening.
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I mean, it's frightening because I can sit there and list off a whole bunch of guys with 33 inch arms, you know, in the 33 range, like Joe Thomas, Jason Peters, like all those guys. None of the short-arm offensive tackles came in the league under 33 that I'm aware of and had success. I'm not saying you can't. I'd be a hypocrite if I said that.
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I've sat in Kirk Ferentz's office and I've laughed about some of his guys that have gone on the league and had great careers. Because the tape's the tape. Will Campbell's tape's really good, but it's not at the level of some of those guys I just mentioned. So now I'm looking at a guy like Armand Mimbo, who's younger, 330 pounds, running faster, jumping higher, 34 inches.
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And I'm like, all right, the traits are there. He's going to develop. And he doesn't have long, like 33 and a half. But Campbell's going to be interesting because everyone's mocking him to like New England at four, somewhere in the top 10. General managers, it's a risk assessment. And I think there's enough risk there where maybe he could start to fall a little bit. Our guy, too, Jordan James.
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The tape is so good. We love him. Oregon running back. He's up in a flash. So quick in and out. Great vision. Great patience. I really like him as a back. I think a team's going to wind up getting a really good value on him. Because when you look at this year's class, when you get guys like R.J. Harvey...
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you know, talking high four threes, low four fours, jumping out of the gym, RJ Harvey from UCF, Tootin, as I mentioned, Bashul Tootin from Virginia Tech, DJ Giddens from Kansas State. I think he, you know, they're all in kind of that bucket, if you will. And I think he's kind of dropped inside that bucket, but I still think he's going to be a great player, but it could affect him on draft weekend.
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Hmm. Um, I'm, I'm just not as big a guy and it wasn't the workout, but Ted McMillan, um,
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Yeah, and there was a discussion, right? Malachi Starks coming into the year, everyone was kind of mocking him or ranking him somewhere in the top 10, 12 players from Georgia. Didn't have the best year. He made some mistakes, kind of playing hero ball at times, but still a phenomenal player. So I think the question was coming into this, is one going to separate from the other?
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Ted Aroa? Ted Aroa from Arizona. And trust me, people are still saying now I'm reading everywhere that New England could take him because Vrabel said we need a big physical X. I don't see him as that. I see him as a big athletic X. I don't see the dog in him like I saw in Drake London. I don't see the attention to detail.
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I see a really highly athletic player who runs well but doesn't have elite speed. I think that's part of the reason he didn't run in Indy. Arizona's season was over November. You know, and so he had plenty of time to work out and get ready for this. It's not like some like the Ohio State guys like Emeka Ibuka didn't didn't run, but they just finished their season.
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So, yeah, I just I'm not as big a fan. And I think it's a mixed bag when you talk to guys in the league for a player that is being consistently mocked in the in the top 10. I would I just like Matthew Golden a lot. And he goes out and runs, what did he run, a 4-2-9 or something ridiculous? The second fastest time of all the players at the combine, I think it was. I've got it pulled up right here.
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Yeah, he was the fastest receiver. 4-2-9. Fastest receiver, second fastest player. Yeah, I just I love his tape, the in and out, the suddenness, the explosiveness. Now you get a guy who's reliable, just catches the ball. I just know what I'm getting there. So I think McMillan's going to be fascinating to see because some people love him.
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And everyone's like, well, Drake, Drake London, over a thousand receiving yards this past year. Yeah, there's a comp there, but it's not identical.
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So if he's not, to your point, there were a lot of last minute decisions made. Guys that we thought were going to work out, I think they got there to Indy. They're in that position group being carted around from interviews to financial meetings to the hospital for medicals. And I think it's like, yeah, well, pick up the speed dial to your agent. So-and-so is not running.
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I think that started to happen this year more so than I can remember.
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And we knew Eamon Worry was going to have a good workout. And they're not like identical players, but they're both versatile players that can play the run, can line up in different spots, can play in some man, can play in zone. And if you're looking for a differentiator, we just got it, right? I mean, you wake up that morning. What was it, Thursday? Thursday or Friday and you're stark.
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So personal thing.
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Right. He figured it out, but he also, he came to the combine and it didn't, it didn't pass. He was a second round pick. Okay. This is a good point.
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But he came to the combine and he, it at least proved to everyone, I am different than all these cats. Right. And it didn't, again, it didn't, it's not like.
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Luther Burden's another one from Missouri. He's not going as high as people think.
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Yeah, I think people are just more worried about, like, what are we getting? Is this guy, like, what are we getting showing up to the building every day? Same efforts, all that stuff. Okay. Well, that I don't know. Yeah, it's fascinating. This receiver class, I think, is going to look a lot different
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in the draft, like the first two nights of the draft than what has been presented publicly for a long time. Matthew Golden, if you think about it, like in October, like we didn't, nobody really knew much about Matthew Golden. He was a transfer from, from Houston to, And Isaiah bond, they kept trying to figure out how they were going to make bond the number one, all of a sudden like bonds gone.
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And he steps up and becomes this, this huge threat finishes the season, like became the go-to guy. You see all these traits and then he goes and works out and does his thing. I think like the Iowa state guys, because they don't get a lot of national exposure, whatever it is. Like I look at Higgins and Noel, Jaden and Jalen respectively. Um, I feel I would be fine with them going late first.
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They're that good and polished and ready. I think it's going to be a little bit different than what people seem to think. Forever, remember, it was McMillan and Burden. And then, you know, Emeka Ibuka was kind of crawling up throughout the process. Now, all of a sudden, we could have a draft board where Golden's the first receiver, Burden's not in the first round.
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A couple of Iowa State guys maybe go late for it. You know what I mean? So that part's going to be interesting.
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So you're like, all right, let's go out there and show the world what I got. And he doesn't have, I mean, he's six, one, almost 200 pounds runs a four, five pretty, you know, above average for safety. And then you look at across and you're like, this guy, even worry, you know, he's, he's like four inches taller, 23 pounds heavier. My 4-5 stacked against his 4-3-8.
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That's a very leading question, the way you presented it. Quinn Ewers did not have the season we all expected him to have.
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It does. He had the oblique injury. He had the ankle injury. The oblique lingered. It affected him. I thought Quinn Ewers threw pretty good. At the, at the combine, not exceptional, but, but pretty good. I think, I think it will level off. That's my point. I think it went from, it could be top 10 pick to fourth, fifth round.
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I think he's going to wind up being a day to pick later day to like third round range. I think in the perfect scenario, everything works out. Maybe he can become a starter in the league. I think it's much more likely he's going to wind up being a backup. But I think the market will correct itself a little bit.
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The quarterbacks are different, though, because in the summer, you're watching tape. Saying, all right, he's he's at this level. I think he's about to make this next jump because so much of playing the quarterback positions between your ears and game experience. And if you don't believe that, like, go back to you don't have to look far.
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Like, I promise you, Jaden Daniels comes out a year or two earlier, which he was eligible to do. We're talking about a fifth round pick. He wasn't ready. He hadn't developed. He hadn't been through enough wars. The game hadn't slowed down for him. He wasn't processing as quickly. He didn't trust his eyes, all those things. It's in a lot of these guys.
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The problem with our system is, and it's gotten a lot better with the NIL and transfer portal, a lot better. Guys are bouncing around. Bo Nix plays 60-something games, 62 games I think it was, right? Jaden Daniels plays like 56 games, two different schools.
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While people don't love that aspect of it from a quarterback development standpoint, it's a hell of a lot better than Mark Sanchez coming out after 13 starts when Mark needed two more years. Trubisky, 13 starts. Anthony Richardson should have played more ball. You know what I mean?
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So we're seeing all these guys that come out and don't have a ton of starts, and then we're watching on the flip side all these guys who come out that had a bunch of starts. They're more ready, man. It's not that complicated. And so when you're evaluating a guy in the summer, you're saying, all right, they're going to have a minimum 12, maybe up to 16 more games to learn and develop.
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Look at Will Howard. Will Howard's a fifth, sixth rounder coming into this year. Will Howard's a fifth, sixth rounder in late October. Will Howard now might be a day two pick because of the development he had. He played more games in a system that opened up. So that part, I get it. But it's a projection based off of what you hope the next season is going to be.
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And the fact that we're seeing a lot of these guys really improve in their final year of playing college ball, which now instead of being the third year, third year in a program, maybe second year playing ball, it's like a fourth, fifth or sixth year, you know?
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That Parcells number, what was it, 23 starts is like the Mendoza line or the cutoff. That number's rising drastically, I believe.
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You know, it's just like, it's not a fair fight. And I think when teams are looking for traits and looking for a player that can do different things and can make you multiple on the defensive side, I mean, he just... I don't know that any player truly helped themselves more than he did. Okay. Let's... I'm always curious.
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Because you guys are so much better at evaluating talent.
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Right.
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I mean, last year's class looks pretty good. You know, I need more data. You know, of course we need more data, but like, find me, find me any other year where we've had, you can't, but where five of six you're looking at and you're like,
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feel pretty good marino's year jj hasn't even played like there's only one guy we're really worried about after one year you know yeah and i'm as excited as the next guy about panics but we're definitely rounding up on panics fine but i'm saying it's a compared to what we've seen where it's like 40 percent in previous in a lot of years going back in history after the first year you're like i don't know the zach wilson class is just you know the scariest yes
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Yes.
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Right.
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Um... It's mock drafts. We already had mock 1.0. We're going to have mock 2.0 next week. So much to kind of update in terms of the intel getting and the workouts and how it's kind of reshaped the top of the board. We're going to have draft boards. We're going to have inside information like we had with Shador Sanders and some of the conversations about different players and different teams.
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So I appreciate all the support on that. It's my baby, man. I've been doing this for 25 years, the writing portion of it. And I just love it.
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I appreciate it, brother. I really do. I'm loving it here. This is like, It hasn't taken like four months. Like this is home now. I I've never been happier doing what I'm doing with the people that I'm doing it with starting with Steve Mench, obviously, but all, all you guys, like it's, it's, it's been amazing. It really has.
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You always, I kind of lean on you cause I get stuck in the mud and I'm in the thick of it, right? Like, and I'm talking to all these people and I've got all these interviews and the information I'm getting running through my head and I've got preconceived notions. Like as a viewer, What was your biggest takeaway? Were there a couple things that stood out to you?
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Yeah.
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wasn't great for bill.
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Yeah, I hear you. I always view it from the lens of combo picks. When you're drafting in the first round, you've got to take into consideration, and NFL GMs I talk to do this as well. If I go this position here, if I have similar grades on this, let's say tight end, versus if you're in love with a wide receiver or an offensive tackle. Offensive tackle is the perfect example.
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While I love Tyler Warren or I love Colston Loveland, this tackle group is going to dry out fast. So if I go with the offensive tackle, a Kelvin Banks or a Josh Simmons in the first round, I know I'm not going to get – I don't feel great about getting a starter, a guy I can plug and play in the second round. Second round for the tight ends, I got Mason Taylor from LSU. I've got Arroyo from Miami.
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I've got Fannin Jr. from Bowling Green in probably the late second, third round. So there are other guys, and I think absolutely that's part of the process for general managers. The thing that was frustrating this year is we've got these deep classes that with all this talent, it was like the first couple of days of the combine were a bust for me.
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The bald guy from White Lotus?
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Listen to that. Yeah. Yeah. I'm three episodes in. I'm excited. Excited for something to happen.
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Yeah.
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And I was, I was worried, like, is this the new trend or is anyone going to work out? We didn't like the interior defensive line, 18 out of 40, Ryan, 18 of 40 ran. I mean, that's, and this is one of the deepest classes ever at interior defensive line, the edge, the top edge guys didn't work out. A lot of them. Not all of them, but several of those guys. The tight ends.
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I just listed all those names, right? Warren doesn't work out. Loveland has the shoulder, so obviously excused. Mason Taylor didn't work out. Arroyo didn't work out. So, like, now we're down to, like, the third tier of tight ends working out with Fannin and Ferguson from Oregon. Terrence Ferguson. So... It was frustrating.
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To be honest, the first couple days was really frustrating watching how few of the top-tier guys worked out. But then we got to Saturday, and it was awesome. I mean, the running backs were... You got to remember, this is the best group clearly since 2017 and may wind up going down as one of the top, if not the top running back classes to ever come out in the draft, talent-wise.
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And then they all showed up. Outside of Ashton Jinty, the vast majority of everyone did at least something and most of everything. When you got guys like Travion Henderson putting up big numbers, Quinshawn Judkins putting up better all-around workout numbers than even Henderson, who's the explosive athlete. You've got...
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You've got Omari and Hampton, who, by the way, I talked to people in the league who were like, it's a debate in our room between Ashton Jinty and Hampton. So Hampton taking advantage of the fact that Jinty's not working out. I mean, all of these guys, it felt like worked out. And the vast majority were like, you're like blowing your mind with some of the numbers.
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You know, this group was the fastest in the history of the combine at the running back position. They averaged four, four, eight in the 40. It's just, it was, it was amazing, an amazing sight to see.
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I would say the biggest thing probably was Nick Imanwari's workout. Safety from South Carolina. I mean, obviously, we can get into the quarterbacks. We can get into all the buzz. We can get into wide receivers. The running back class is as good as advertised. But there's only a few times that you can legitimately say a human being shouldn't be able to do this.
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I think it's a couple of things. And I've said this for over a decade now at running back. Like, I think sometimes when it's just not a good running back class, we love to just dive right back into that conversation. Like the NFL doesn't put value on running back. Right. And so part of it is just talent. Like in 2017, it was the thick of it, like moving away from running backs.
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The league is a more pass-friendly. But there were, I think, was it 26, 28 guys drafted that year, starting with Leonard Fournette, Christian McCaffrey? You go back and look at that class, it's phenomenal. And so when the talent's there, they're going to be taken. But there were like eight or nine standout running backs in the NFL, like guys that made huge impacts that came from that class.
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Only two of them went in the first round. So there's always a premium that you place on premium picks at premium positions, okay? You're always going to say, well, quarterback, pass rusher, left tackle, right? Those are always going to be the – and then cornerback right behind it, right? So it's going to lead to running backs getting pushed back.
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But if the talent's there, you get in the second, third, fourth round, they're going to start flying off the board, and that's what's going to happen this year. I do think this. Remember the old – we used to mess around with Kuyper about the quote he had that the league should ban cover two? I mean, just the absurdity of it. But the point was not to defend my guy, Mel.
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The point was I'm watching tape now and everyone's running a version of cover two and it's the percentages have increased. And so when you have two safeties back, it makes it very difficult to take deep shots. So what's the counter to that? The counter is you got some creases now in the run game. You don't have boxes that are as loaded up with defenders. And so we better get a talented guy.
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Remember how much the heat Brad Holmes took for drafting Jameer Gibbs and also a linebacker with those early picks that he had? and look at what that's done. Look at what that pick for Jameer Gibbs has done for that office. Right. And so I think people are seeing that and they're like, Oh, I have a clear vision of what Troy beyond Henderson can be.
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And they're looking in the league and they're like, they're in cover two all the time, man. Well, got to be able to counter with something. We need a weapon at running back. And now all of a sudden we got Ashton Jinty, Omarion Hampton from UNC, the two Ohio State running backs, Henderson and Judkins in this class.
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We've got Caleb Johnson from Iowa, who's the only guy who may be in the top 10 running backs that had kind of a disappointing 40 time, but still just love his tape. We've got... Bashul Tutin, who had a legendary workout. DJ Giddens from Virginia Tech and Kansas State, respectively, the last two guys. So there's a lot of good talent, and I do think we're going to see it.
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I know we're going to see two running backs taken this year in the first round. It's going to be absolutely Gentee and Hampton. Maybe that flip-flops, but my guess is it will be Gentee first and Hampton second. maybe a third and Trey beyond Henderson sneaks in there. But, but I think like fan dual is going to set it too, is my guess or two and a half.
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And then, but after that, when we get into like that, that early mid second round range, you're going to start to see backs come off the board a lot in that second, third, and even fourth round.
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And Eamon Worry was one of those times. I think back to Calvin Johnson, right? DK Metcalf. Just look at him pulling up the numbers right now. He is a massive safety, right? He's 6'3", 220 pounds, right? No one has ever done what he's done before. With the vertical jump that he was able to put, or sorry, the broad jump of 11.6 at 220 pounds to run as fast as Imanwari did at 4.38.
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if you have the other parts, then the answer is yes. They've got Panay Sewell, right? When healthy, they've got a pretty good defense. Um, They have to be explosive offensively, and they've got to be able to counter. They've got to be able to run play action. I mean, that's what Jared Goff feeds off of, right? Play action, working the middle of the field. That's what makes him great.
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And so if play action is critical, you better have not just one but two backs that put fear in those linebackers and safeties. You've got to respect that. Right. So it's not I wouldn't say every every organization is the same. But I think for them specifically, they recognize that's where I give Brad Holmes a lot of credit and his staff in Detroit.
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They recognize that we need this in order to take it to another level. We need speed on the outside. They brought in Jameson Williams. Right. They need speed at running back. If this is all going to work, these are the two parts we need. And so they spent the resources on it. And Gibbs, theoretically, is just a rotation back, technically, right? And Jameson was...
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Okay. All right. Um, I wouldn't say outraged, but I think mistakes were made, okay? I think mistakes were made and it wasn't from the second to last to the final college football playoff rankings. It was prior to that. And that's the problem I have with the committee.
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The committee put too much emphasis from the beginning on wins and losses and not enough emphasis on strength of schedule, strength of record. And I say that because they put themselves in a bind.
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That bind was after they – and we did a reaction show, not off of the last rankings yesterday, but the week before because I said all along, that's the most important rankings show that we have because that's going to reveal what the committee is saying. And then obviously the committee chair comes out and says –
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If you're not playing in a college football championship game, a conference championship game, there's not going to be movement in the clusters below, right? And it's not going to affect necessarily whether you get in or get out. And they stayed true to that.
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And so because they put more emphasis on wins and losses and de-emphasized the strength of schedule and strength of record, they wound up in a bind with SMU, ultimately. SMU, it should never have been a situation where SMU was sitting there in the top 12. If you look at the strength of schedule, strength of record, look at South Carolina, look at Alabama, look at Ole Miss.
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Strength of schedule for South Carolina is 13. Strength of record was nine. Alabama's strength of schedule was 18. Three wins over top 25 teams. Ole Miss's strength of schedule was 14. Compare that to Indiana. Their strength of schedule was 67. Zero wins over top 25 teams. SMU, 57 strengths of schedule compared to 13, 18, and 14 for those SEC teams.
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So when we got to the situation at the very end in the last rankings, given all the information that they had provided, they had to put SMU in because they would have then devalued The conference championships and what would have happened was like next year, it would have been a disaster. Teams would have opted out of playing in their conference championships.
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So the short term loss for the committee and for college football is Alabama is not in, in my opinion, should be South Carolina. But it really came down, given the rankings to Alabama versus SMU. And so they'll lose money on that. Can you imagine the matchup, Penn State versus Alabama versus the money they stand to gain and the attention and the excitement for Penn State versus SMU?
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There's a massive difference.
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No, I understand that. But in the long run, this is a business, though. And in the long run, if they took SMU out and put in one of the SEC schools— They're sending the message moving forward, don't play in your conference championships. And that's a much bigger disaster. So my issue all along has been the committee and how they valued the wins and losses versus the strength of schedule.
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No. Stop there. But aren't we supposed to have the 12 best teams? With the caveat of conference championships, which I do like, and we'll get to the seeding part of that, which is a disaster, I believe will be changed next year. But aren't we trying to reward conference champions plus reward the other seven teams that are the best seven teams in college football?
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Yeah, but within a range, though. They were never going to drop Indiana beyond kind of where they are, but the one loss kept them in a range.
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Yeah, I would have.
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It's more the SMU thing, but I actually would have. I applaud the committee because we're trying to get the best 12 teams in here. And Indiana didn't beat a top 25 team. Their strength of schedule is 67. 67 compared to 13, 18, 14 for South Carolina, Alabama, Ole Miss, respectively. And Alabama's got three wins over top 25 teams.
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South Carolina beat two top 25 teams in the last three weeks of the regular season. One of which on the road against a rival, Clemson, that now is in the championship. and was so good that SMU only losing in overtime, or right before overtime with a 56-yard field goal, whatever it was. Clemson's so good that SMU still deserves to be in. South Carolina's the biggest travesty of all.
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Hottest team in the country down the stretch. Knocking off top 25 teams. Win at Clemson in a rivalry game. And most importantly, I don't know if we have the graphic here. We did this on our show last week. Part of the committee's decision is basing it off of who's playing in games. And it's put in there very clearly. If there's a significant player with injury, that is to be factored in.
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Well, I've got news for you. South Carolina was up 17-0 on LSU. when Lenore Sellers, who was out of this world down the stretch this season, 17-0 when Lenore Sellers got injured, and they wound up losing that game with some terrible, two terrible calls that cost them in that game. And so if we're going to factor that in with Florida State a year ago, why aren't we factoring that in?
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Now, all of a sudden, South Carolina, in the committee's mind, could be a two-loss team.
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Yeah, man, it's a problem. And we were bitching about it in October. Like, wait a second. So, so this team's going to play that team and this team has a buy. Yeah.
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And they also, how are we going to pause? And I get it because it's, it's eight and nine and on paper, but when you push back, when, when you, you elevate Boise state to three in Arizona state to four, you're, you're obviously pushing down, you know, so really it's the sixth best team and the seventh best team. So you got to play the winner of six versus seven as the one seed if Oregon.
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To me, give me Texas's path where I get to play Clemson at home and then Arizona State to get to the semifinal. Or weirdly enough, please give me Penn State's path. I got to beat SMU who just lost to Clemson and Boise State to get to the semifinal? The five and six seeds are the places to be in this thing. It doesn't make any sense.
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It depends on the team, quite honestly. And you can't factor that into a, you know, a... For Georgia, they actually, they desperately need, and it's not just Carson Beck, but they desperately need a buy, if you will. I think they started the season with Clemson. They played the toughest SEC. I think they played the toughest schedule of any team in this thing, still standing.
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At Texas, at Bama, at Ole Miss. Yeah, like what are we talking about? And Texas again. and started the season with Clemson. So like there's carnage physically, mentally, like what you heard Kirby smart. He's, he's berating his whole, he's berating his own conference commissioner, you know, it's Sanky like up in the, it should be sell it. Like we won the sec, you know?
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And he's like, what have you done to us? And so for Georgia, they need it. But even, like, I remember Nick Saban talking about it, and it just takes you inside the mindset of a coach. And I can remember, like, even playing in college, like, there's something to staying on routine, right? And it's not a warm-up game. Like, we're probably going to see an upset here.
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I don't know if it's going to be Indiana over Notre Dame or SMU over Penn State or Clemson over Texas, Tennessee, Ohio State. Right? We're probably going to see an upset. It's not an automatic that you win in that first round if you're the higher seed. I think for Georgia, it's much more important and valuable to have a week off. I don't know that Texas hasn't played the toughest schedule.
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I think Texas would almost rather get a home game, stay in rhythm. And, and, and not be sitting around for two weeks waiting, you know, but, but they also then would have Arizona state in the next week. So it's just, it depends, but truly the biggest problem. And I do think it will be rectified. I think it's going to take it. It took us.
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Looking at this situation now and saying, wait, Arizona State and Boise State are just sitting around waiting. And if they win one game, they're in the semis. It took us in this situation to see it one time through. I strongly believe next year at this same time, we'll be talking about it. It's all based off of the rankings create the seedings.
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I think we're facing, I don't want to say two years, five years, whatever. I think we're facing, and everyone I talk to that's in the know, whether it's in television, executives who are part of a lot of important conversations, coaches who are involved in this also, everyone seems to believe that we're facing, we're kind of,
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not, it's not in the distant future of massive change, whether it's four divisions, conferences, whatever you want to call them, where it's, you know, cause right now the problem is these conferences have become so big that you're only, that you're winding up not playing a lot of good teams and like the Penn state schedule versus other, sorry. Yeah. Like
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I guess Penn State, Indiana's schedule is a lot different than some other team's schedule. And even in the SEC, like Texas' schedule compared to Alabama's schedule and Georgia's schedule, different animals. And so I'm not here to explain all the different theories and all the different suggestions that have been made.
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But, you know, I do think that we're heading towards in the next several years a massive change to try to let's let's get it more regional. Let's let's try to equal things out and let's create more of a balanced playing field during the regular season. So to avoid a lot of this nonsense.
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No. I can't unsee. Two things I can't unsee when I look at this. I'm staring at the seedings and the games. I can't unsee Arizona State at four with a bye and Boise State at three with a bye. I can't unsee that, and that frustrates me. But what I also can't unsee in a real positive manner is, holy shit, We get Tennessee, Ohio State in two weeks. We get Clemson, Texas in two weeks.
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We get in-state Indiana, Notre Dame, and kind of a weird game. I think Cignetti's going to cause some problems for Indiana, and to a lesser extent, SMU, Penn State. And then nine days later, New Year's right. You know, New Year's Eve and New Year's. We've got we've got Georgia facing off of the winner of Notre Dame. It could be Georgia. Notre Dame could be Boise State.
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Yeah. I mean, I could I could see it being a frustrating game. I could.
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I do too. And so, but my point is, and knowing like nine, 10 days later, we've got four more games, Oregon versus Ohio state or Tennessee. Awesome. Arizona state versus Texas. Interesting. Penn state versus Boise state. Very interesting. Potentially Notre Dame versus Georgia. Awesome. And then we're not even done. Then we get the semifinals.
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Then we're back to like where we started last year and in the previous regime. So like to get all of that football and let's not forget to with the transfer portal, NIL, NFL draft, those three factors, how few like big time players and how little emphasis the went into the bowl games the last year or two. You know what I mean? Like nobody really truly cared. I mean, I shouldn't say nobody.
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The emphasis on it was just not there. I found myself being less excited than I ever was last year for bowl games. I just, I was. And so all of the focus has shifted and this is where we need to be. And maybe it's 14 games moving forward and beyond, but I can't unsee what we have. And what we have is wonderful.
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So all my bitching and moaning today is about like where the committee can improve moving forward. The end of the day, Alabama lost three games. SEC lost, I mean, South Carolina lost three games. Ole Miss lost three games. They made themselves vulnerable.
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But I think we can improve with the committee and the emphasis, but I can't ever go back to just semifinals and finals or certainly not just a BCS with just a final, a national championship game. I can't do it.
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Why?
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Make the two best arguments. I can't even have this conversation with you.
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Okay, fine. But the only reason you would want that old system is because you felt like this regular season was devalued. Where it wasn't even that important to watch or fun to watch. Did you feel like that this season? It was fun.
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Yeah, but a lot was on the line. Because now Ohio State has to play Tennessee just to get the opportunity to go play Oregon. And their head coach may have lost his job.
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Texas-Penn State.
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Oregon would play Penn state. Yep. Georgia plays Texas a third time, a third time. I mean, yeah, it's fun. It's good. But like, if, if, if those four teams are as good as we think, then Penn state beats SMU and they beat Boise state and they're, they're right back in it, but now they got to earn it. Georgia beats Notre Dame and they're back in it. Oregon beats Tennessee or Ohio state.
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And they're back in it. Texas beats Clemson at home. And then Arizona state, which I think will happen. And they're back in it. So maybe that's what we wind up with when it's all said and done. But I know this, I get, I've got, 20 days of buildup and, and two and four days of awesome football that I'm excited about.
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That's so, so Penn state's out.
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Clemson. Stop. No, no. We're doing it. We're doing it. Okay. All right. Just game it out. Oregon, Georgia, Arizona State. Buys. Right. Buys. Yes. Then Arizona. Yeah. Clemson, Arizona State, Boise State are all in. And then Texas is in.
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Right. I mean, well,
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Yeah, everyone's represented. Yes, everyone's represented. I'll give you that. I honestly don't have a problem with the structure of the conference champions. I don't have a problem with that. It's just the de-emphasis on strength of schedule, who you're playing, strength of record, and the over-emphasis on wins and losses with the other seven teams.
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And then obviously what we just talked about, the seating at the end, which will get fixed. Let me ask you this question. I've seen multiple people talk about it. I'm always a proponent of it. And I recognize this is not about the NFL draft. And I recognize that Ohio State, maybe they're, not maybe, I think their best two players aren't eligible for this year's draft.
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And Caleb Downs and Smith, the wide receiver. But don't you think a part of that committee is, there should be someone representing the talent, like how much talent these teams truly have. I talk about this all the time. NFL scouts are on the road four months, and typically you have regions.
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There are other scouts for each team that typically have a top 100 scout who's going out and evaluating the top 100. Nagy said it. Jim Nagy, the executive director of the Senior Bowl. I don't know if there are any more people that are not part of NFL organizations, a group that would be more... have more insight into what the talent level is than, than the senior bowl.
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It was putting together their lists and have, they, I think they have 11 scouts on the road. They have draft meetings and put together. And I'm not trying to make this about the NFL draft, but I am trying to make this about best teams. And I look at Alabama with like eight to 10 draftable prospects. I look at South Carolina with six to eight draftable prospects.
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I look at Ole miss with nine to 10 draftable prospects. And I compare that in Ohio state with 15. Tennessee was 7-8. Oregon with 9-11. Clemson only 5. Texas got a whole bunch. Arizona State, I've got 2. Indiana, I've got 5. And mostly, almost all day 3. C.J. West, a defensive tackle, maybe. But I think all day 3. Georgia with 12-14. And you get down to SMU with two. Boise State with two to three.
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So, like, I don't know. Wouldn't there be some value in that and having that voice in the room? Not necessarily, you know, you've got a bunch of committee. What is it, 12 committee members, is it?
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All right, so maybe we have 14, and one of them is someone who can provide perspective on truly what we're watching. Because it's hard. It's hard to watch. Is this your push to be on the committee one day? It's not me. Not even me. I don't even know that I would want to do it, to be quite honest. Who would be the best?
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Absolutely. The best would be a Jim Nagy type who's overseeing the process that is most closely representative of a college scouting department in the NFL.
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have a bad year right I mean how many teams how many Florida State's a perfect example like Florida State came in with a whole bunch of prospects and and not many if any wound up playing to the level that was expected or hoped for LSU's probably got five first rounders from this team I'm just trying to think through yeah maybe eventually yeah Eventually. I'm not talking eligible for 25.
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But they played their way out. Florida State played their way out. But when you've got three teams on the cusp with South Carolina and with Alabama and with Ole Miss, I'm not saying that the decision should be made based off of that. I think that having that voice in the room would be helpful. And I don't want to take up too much time. It's just a thought. I wanted to throw it out there.
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Right. And I don't think I'm not saying this becomes a, well, we pull up Nagy or some other representative in the room and, and Hey, well, who has the most, it's about providing perspective in that. Okay. I got it. But they, but they played LSU, which has, what did they wind up with? Four, four losses, five losses. They played LSU and, and there's, There's carnage.
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There's a weekly toll it takes physically, mentally having to play. Like, yes, you can see the strength of schedule and all that. But let's also look at like the strength of schedule gets knocked down because LSU winds up with that many losses. But you're still playing teams with all these players and all this talent week in and week out. And so just providing that perspective may help.
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In the third or fourth ranking or the second to last ranking, maybe all of a sudden we see teams from the SEC where the schedule week in and week out is a lot more difficult and the gauntlet to get there is more difficult. Maybe we see them get the appropriate amount of credit for what they had to go through. That's my only point.
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Ooh, I hadn't thought about that. Um, I'll tell you what, man, Texas, Texas, Texas, because I, I think they, they get into a rhythm. They get that first game at home against a team in Clemson that doesn't belong. They get to play another team that is solid. But without Jordan Tyson, their wide receiver, I don't think Arizona State has enough balance offensively.
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Now, all of a sudden, they're in the semifinals. And yeah, that'll be a hard game. But any team in the semifinals is going to have a difficult game. But then it becomes one win to get in. And I'd rather, if I'm Texas, I'd rather play Oregon in the semis than have to play Georgia again. So I think that they... Because Penn State, I don't think, can beat Georgia.
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So while Penn State got the easiest trip to the semis, I think Texas has the best path to the national championship.
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I thought there was a difference, but I said on our show Saturday night, I have a greater level of appreciation for this Penn State team than I have had in the entire James Franklin era. And it's based... Not solely, but in large part due to how they hung with Oregon in that game.
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I thought that they showed a lot of different things in that game that I didn't always feel like was the case with a James Franklin. James Franklin teams play the way they play in massive games, top five matchups, like they did against Ohio State. This was different against Oregon, I thought.
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Love it. Appreciate you coming on Saturday night and happy to be here. This is, I'm excited. I mean, you, you're trying to like knock this whole thing. I'm excited. I'm like, how can you not be excited about what the next, what is it? Five, six weeks has to offer in college football.
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