The Bill Simmons Podcast
The Luka Buzz, NFL Draft Scoops, and a Huge Celtics Sale With Todd McShay and Chris Mannix
Thu, 20 Mar 2025
The Ringer’s Bill Simmons talks about seeing Luka Doncic in person and the unique buzz he is able to bring to a Lakers arena (0:00). Next, Bill talks with Todd McShay about his NFL Mock Draft 2.0, piecing together the puzzle of the top four picks, Abdul Carter vs. Travis Hunter, a really good RB class, top 10 predictions, and more (11:48). Finally, Bill is joined by SI’s Chris Mannix to discuss the Boston Celtics being sold for a record $6.1 billion, Wyc Grousbeck curiously remaining as CEO and governor of the Celtics for three years, speculation on future roster spending, a new Celtics arena, a quick boxing update, and more (53:22). Host: Bill Simmons Guests: Todd McShay and Chris Mannix Producers: Kyle Crichton and Chia Hao Tat The all-new, fully electric Audi Q6 e-tron is a new way to experience driving. Learn more at audiusa.com. The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: What was it like seeing Luka Doncic in person?
Welcome to the Bill Simmons podcast presented by FanDuel Sportsbook. So I went to the Lakers game last night. It was my first Luka Doncic in-person experience. I got to see some of the number 77 jerseys. Did I look around and wonder, are there more 77s than 23s in the audience? I might've looked at a couple sections and wondered about it, but something cool really happened during the game.
Luka came out. He always tests these first quarters. And this is something he always did in Dallas too. You kind of want to watch the first quarter of a Luka game because you never know what the ceiling is going to be. Like at some point, he's going to score 75 points in a game. It's going to happen. And he usually tests that first quarter to see how much he's feeling it.
So he does it in this Lakers game. They're playing Denver. There's no Jokic. There's no Murray because God forbid you go to an NBA game and see all the stars on both teams. There's no LeBron either. Luka comes out. He scores 20 of the first 33 points.
And you could feel a buzz building in the arena that is the sound you only get to hear when this is happening with Curry, when Curry's hitting threes. You go back in time, like when Kobe was feeling it some nights, when Michael Jordan was feeling it some nights. It's the rarest sound you get at a basketball game where everybody's like, holy shit. You start looking at the scoreboard.
So with like four and a half minutes left, the Lakers had 33 points and he had 20. And now everybody's like out of their minds. They just can't, oh my, is he gonna, could he score 100? Could he get third in the first quarter? Of course, from that point on, he goes down. He stunk in the second quarter. He wasn't good in the third quarter either. They win easily because the Nuggets had nobody.
But the buzz in the arena, And I've been going to Laker games. I moved here in November 2002. The only other time I felt it at a Laker game like that was when Kobe was playing. And I remember the first time I moved to LA in mid-November and I went to a Laker game maybe two weeks later. Somebody brought me. I'd never been to a Laker game before.
You know, grew up going to Celtic games, East Coast my whole life. Just had always hated the Lakers, hated the Showtime, never really understood it. And... I go to this game and the thing that jumped out to me, it was Kobe and Shaq. It was, you know, there was right after they'd won the three Pete, they lose the meadow three season, but it's Kobe and Shaq. It's, typical really good home game.
The thing that jumped out to me just sitting there was like, oh my God, these fans love Kobe. They love him. And it was my big takeaway from the night. And there's reasons for that. He's drafted by the team. He's a teenager. They get to watch him go through the stages. Then they win titles with him. Shaq shows up from Orlando. He'd been there
I don't know, four years in Orlando, comes to the Lakers. So he's a little bit of a hired gun, kind of like LeBron now. And they love both of them together, but they really love Kobe. And you could feel that during the rest of the run. Especially the 06 season, I remember going to a bunch of games that year. It was after the trial.
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Chapter 2: How does Luka Doncic compare to past NBA legends?
You have the Giants trading up to 19 for Dart. You have fake trade. 34 and 65 and a 26 third rounder to the Bucs. Yeah. For pick number 19. So in that scenario, the two quarterbacks go one, two. They take Hunter third. And I want to talk about that in a second. And then move up and take Dart. And now they're like, we've got Dart. We've got neighbors. Yo, Travis Hunter. Who knows?
Maybe he'll play both sides of the ball. And all of a sudden now there's energy with the Giants.
Absolutely. Let's bring it back to the top four, right? It's a puzzle. Yeah. And we know one, we've got one of the four pieces of the puzzle with those four picks. I feel very strongly like we've got it planted in there, right? So now figuring out the other three, it's almost like the rest of the draft starts at pick five. Yeah.
Like Mason Graham and Tyler Warren and the running backs and all this. But the first four picks, it's like, how does this work? Right.
Well, and let me stop you one second there. Yeah. I refuse to read another mock draft that doesn't have those four going in some order. I still see drafts from like good places where they're like number four Patriots, Will Campbell, and then Jacksonville takes Abdul Carter at five. And I'm like, I promise you that's not happening. No, no. If Abdul Carter isn't four, they're taking Abdul Carter.
And I put it in there because I wound up with Abdul Carter in the newsletter, in the mock draft 2.0. I put Abdul Carter in there, but I'm very, very clear to my friends here in New England, like, don't get overly excited because a lot has to happen.
So don't buy the jersey yet. Tell my buddy Jay Buck, like, don't buy it yet. Wait till, like, end of April.
But if Shador goes two or three, you can buy two jerseys and get rid of one of them because it's going to be Hunter or Carter, period.
But Hunter makes a whiff more sense for the Giants, but I thought you laid it out correctly. It makes a little more sense, but if they took Carter, it's not like that's stupid. They would just have an amazing defensive line.
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Chapter 3: Why is Luka Doncic a perfect fit for Los Angeles?
So it's really 5-7 because that's what... You know, that's what Cuban forfeited. That's what the Grosbecks forfeited by selling now. You get that money that maybe goes to the luxury tax. I was trying to walk my dad off the ledge this morning because my dad's just like, the Luca thing has spooked my dad. He was like, you can't say like the new Dallas owners, everything seemed great.
And then they're trading Luka Doncic for a day in a first and Max Christie. Like, yeah, I'm worried we're going to do something stupid now. I knew what we had with WIC. And it's hard to talk someone off the ledge on that. Yeah. I'm more worried, though.
Worry is the wrong word. This year is going to play out how it's going to play out. I think the peeling off is going to be the Hausers. It's going to be maybe even a Derek White. The guys that you have ready-made for placements on the roster.
Derek White, what are you doing to me?
I'm not saying it's going to happen. I would say this, though. I think that this team right now, as currently constructed, is only protected by championships. You win a championship this summer. ownership's going to bring it back. You're not going to blow up a team that has a chance to win two championships.
You're not trading Jalen Brown to the wherever.
No chance.
Two weeks after the title.
Or even someone like Derek White. I think Sam Houser's probably gone. The second he signed that contract, when you look at what the other contracts are going to be, I was like, there's no way Sam Houser.
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