Jonathan Frias

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Yeah.

Mm hmm.

Yeah, I'm always ready. Always standing by.

I am a Raiders fan. Unfortunately, yeah. It's been tough.

Yeah, I don't know if I like the gentee pick, but neither here nor there.

Yeah, it totally is.

I just think this is fucking weird. Like what, what are you gaining from this? If you're this guy, uh, something similar kind of happened to me with my ringer interview where I got on with the guy and he was like, I'll make this short because like we know each other so well, like I'm going to recommend you for this job, blah, blah, blah.

And I finished the call and I was like, I've never met that guy before in my life.

It might've been you. Yeah. With our ESPN time together.

I'll tell you after.

Yeah, exactly.

They don't, no.

No. Why would I? No, you wouldn't. Yeah. You just like laugh along. Yeah. Do you feel like you deserve?

I was already working part-time here. This was just for like the full-time position. So you'd be the judge.

Your picture's not up on the wall, like do not serve. That's not happening.

There's a lot of X's. There's a lot of like E-I-G-H's.

Oof. I haven't thought about it at all. Not Mike.

I was named after Michael Jordan. They just wanted to repeat. I was born on the 23rd. So my dad figured, why not?

Not a Bulls fan, no.

True story.

Jordan was pretty good, man. I don't know.

And then my other question is, it's April 15th. How are you probably getting married in the summer? I feel like you either are or you aren't at this point.

Cats don't do it for me. No, they're just not.

Hey, guys.

Bye. I drive a Ferrari 355 Cabriolet. What's up? I have a ridiculous house in the South Fork. I have every toy you can possibly imagine. And best of all, kids, I am liquid. So now you know what's possible. Let me tell you what's required.

Good for you. Um,

Okay, last thing here. Quinn Ewers. Yeah, what about him? What's going on?

Fuck you, man.

Yeah.

This is pretty good stuff.

It is your birthday.

Totally.

I'm running out of rotation for the shirts on this thing, man. I'm trying to like wear new ones so people aren't calling me out. I'm running low. Yeah, it's video now. You got to think about all this stuff.

It's not great.

We're around that. Yeah. They never told us the exact square footage. Yeah.

Yeah. But I can, I can see the entire thing from here. So it's not, it's not great.

I'll probably move. It's just not affordable, man. And then it's like, if you want to start a family, you're toast. You gotta have real money to start a family here.

Yeah. You can have an infant once they get to two or three.

I took the train from there a couple weeks ago. It was nice.

We both work remote.

You got it. I'm going tonight. Yes, you are. What are you saying? Lottery winner, baby. Lottery winner. Ironically enough, Lion King.

Yeah. Sleeveless?

I think most Broadway correspondents get their tickets expensed, right?

We'll talk about that offline.

No, my dad really wanted to go to that. I shut that down. Was it A Beautiful Something? Is that the one?

Yeah, I don't know. Neil Diamond doesn't do it for me. Is this politics? No, I'm just kidding. My dad also irks me sometimes, so that definitely played a role.

For sure.

I think you got to reach out just to cover your own ass because this woman isn't just going to sit there and be like, oh, I don't know where the golf clubs went. She's going to tell this guy that she donated those golf clubs and then he's going to come down there and then you're going to have to deal with him.

Like, I would do it just to protect yourself almost because you don't want to have to deal with that.

That's really good.

That's very, very good. All right. Well, that's why we double-checked with you.

And everyone else knows.

I got some shirts from some buddies. You know, they wear it once or twice. They don't like it. They're going to give it away. I'll take them. I'm really cheap, though. So I wonder if this guy is sort of like me and it's like anything to not have to buy new clothing.

Ask it off your friend's back. Like, hey, let me get that shirt.

They were going to name me Michael Jordan. My dad was like, I don't think you can live up to it. So they named me Michael Jared.

Yeah, it's funny. I think we've done this twice before. People seem to like it. We did it at the beginning of last season. So I think like October of 2023. So it's been a while and I went back and listened to it this morning.

uh some funny stuff in there we did it we did steph versus katie one which was which was good we did a luca versus devin booker we did a luca versus mb that was coming off that like weird lucas season where it was like is he actually that great like the efficiency is bad like the usage rates too high and then obviously he goes to the finals so uh good times there seems like those are obvious now um

No, we all stuck on Luka. We picked Luka. Okay, thank God. Yeah. Because it was like people were starting to jump off the bandwagon and obviously Embiid's coming off the MVP. And it was like, oh, what do you think?

You kind of were an Embiid guy, though. That was years ago. And then it's slowly sort of, you know, as he's becoming less and less available and reliable. Yeah.

you're out really yeah really over it yeah anyway this is your segment so it is funny because and i'll get to them in a second but like so we were maybe going to do this like maybe three months ago or so and i wrote down some names and even from there it's like wow these are stupid like i had a paul george or jalen johnson you know like and that was kind of when jalen was like on the up and paul wasn't a total disaster yet it's like all right am i trying to get ahead of this i had three months ago you know like three months ago that kind of makes sense but go ahead i'm i'm in a

No, I had a Trey Young Halliburton one because Halliburton kind of wasn't awesome. And Trey was kind of figuring it out again. And both those look stupid now. So he's passing the ball up the court. It'll be interesting to see which ones. So I've got I think I got a couple here. And then I got a fun one at the end. That's like a bunch of players that I want to throw at you.

But why don't we start nice and easy? Because I feel like this is kind of the battle maybe with Luca for the second best player in the league. But let's just start off SGA or Giannis. And by the way, we should, we should do parameters. This is like, this isn't five years. This is probably like the rest of this year, the playoffs, maybe even in the next year, like a full year.

Maybe it's, it's short term.

It kind of does feel like we've forgotten about him, which is shitty. Would you say Luka over SGA too?

Yeah.

All right. How about Donovan Mitchell or Ant Edwards?

You? I think I'd go Mitchell. The Ant thing is like, he's always going to have it with the defensive side of the ball. But I don't know. There's something about Mitchell right now. Do you think the Cavs are as good as they are if you just swap those two guys?

SGA on the Cavs and Mitchell... Donovan on the Wolves. So if you put Ant Edwards on the Cavs, are they where they're at now? Yeah, I think they'd be fine. You don't? No, I don't think they wouldn't be fine. I just think there's something about Mitchell right now that's just kind of... He's on a different level, I think, than Ant.

I mean, the step-back thing from losing Cat, the team maybe is getting a little bit too much in my head, but there's just something about Donovan and... the way he's playing. And I think Ant is the more well-rounded player. He's bigger. He's obviously a little bit younger, which I don't think really matters that much in this exercise. But I'd give a slight edge to Mitchell, right?

I think I got to give credit to Mitchell right now. But I think most people would take Ant. And I think you're, I wouldn't argue with you.

This one might be a slam dunk for you, but I want to ask it anyway. Mobley or Cat? Mobley. I think most people would say... I mean, Cat is having a pretty unreal... I mean, for a Cat doubter, and I've really never been a Cat guy, like, you gotta give him credit this year. He's certainly a significantly better offensive player than Mobley.

I think the Mobley thing has gotten better, obviously, from three, and he's definitely a little more intriguing. I mean, I was kind of capped of the, like, zag on the Mobley thing. I wasn't just zagging for the sake of zagging, by the way, guys. I think that was a legitimate zag. I was worried about the offense. But I do think you're right.

If you want to win a championship, I don't think either guy's a one. But Mobley anchoring your defense is probably more valuable than what Cat brings offensively, right?

I mean, just to play the devil's advocate Cat side, he's been unreal.

Yeah. I think your team is probably better if cat's your best player, but I'd rather have Mobley if I'm trying to win a championship.

Although, you know, it'd be funny. I mean, shit cat with a Jared Allen is a pretty sick fit.

But I, yeah, I mean, I don't know. I think, I think it's Mobley. I think it's, I think it's Mobley. But hey, credit to Cat. I'm happy for him, man. You know, we've probably, this has probably been a hater Cat podcast for a few years now, but happy for our guy. Here's a fun one.

All right, truther's fair. I'll give you that. Realist. I think Devin Booker has been in one of mine every single year that we've done this, dating back to 2022. So I just, let's just keep it rolling. Cade Cunningham or Devin Booker?

I said the next maybe calendar year, end of next year, even give it like 18 months, even less than that, really. But yeah, 15 months.

It's not a five-year. Yeah, obviously, if you're building a franchise, Cade's a few years younger. But no, both guys are kind of in their primes. They're going to be in their primes for the next two years. So which one? Yeah.

I'm 28. This has been a Cade truther podcast. Both you and I have not sold any of our Cade stock over the years. I've been adamant about that. And it's just good to see it coming. You know, the fruit is coming to bloom here.

What about... Actually, let's just do this quickly. Cade or Mobley? Same draft class. Cade. It's Cade, right? Yeah.

I agree. All right, I got two left. The last one's like a bigger one, though. So this one is the... Nope, not Giddy, although you could do it if you want. I'd still take Ty. Although, Giddy, yeah, good stuff. Shooting numbers? Finally free of the stringent OKC system. He gets to spread his wings a little bit in Chicago. I've never been a big Giddy guy, I'll be honest.

Magic will give him $30 million a year. Who knows? Let's see. This one is the I don't want this guy on my team all-star debate. Bradley Beal or Julius Randle? Wow. I feel like we need to throw a little bit of a, you know, which one would you rather not have? But this is, yeah, you have to have the guy from, say, two years. Who do you want?

Yep. I think Randall, if you I mean, this is like the I can fix him girl, you know, when she's trying to look for somebody to marry. Like Randall's like, if you just channel that energy the right way, like I know that you care, like it's just it's not always in the right way to winning basketball games.

And that to me is I'd rather be frustrated with that guy than, yeah, the guy who just, yeah, I don't even notice is there half the time. Yeah, I think that's the right answer. Man, that was a tough one. You have one more? One more, and this is a big one. I want to do Cooper Flag, because I know you've watched some games, versus a bunch of under-25 guys in the league right now. So Wemby's a no.

Ant is a no.

Maybe, man. So I guess we should use a background on the Cooper Flag thing. Because I haven't watched a ton of Duke games. I've watched highlights of them. I guess the prevailing thing is that he's a pretty good defensive prospect. Obviously, he's huge. And it's like, will the offensive side of his game ever really kind of get there? Am I getting that right?

So I had Chet down too. So Chet, would you take Cooper over Chet?

I love Chet last night. God, I love him.

I've always been a Chet, but I've got shit for Magic fans left and right because I've always loved Chet and I'm happy we have Apollo. But like, I just always loved Chet.

The answer is still the same. Both teams, I think, are more than happy with the guy they got. And if you swap them, I think it wouldn't work as well. The Magic need Paolo. And I don't know how Paolo would work, hypothetically, with Thunder. Maybe he'd be sick. He'd certainly be an upgrade on Jalen Williams. But I don't know. I think both teams are happy. Both teams played hard.

Both teams played hard. Is there anybody else? You probably take Cade over Cooper Flagg, right?

Mobley?

What about I've got some I mean, I've got to let's just run through him quick. Scotty Barnes. Cooper flag.

You don't have a vote? I shouldn't get a vote. Come on. It's fine. Why not? Because I'm not part of the NBA crew. I'm just a guy, you know? If we were doing a ringer soccer, you know, soccer world 100 list, then yeah, sure, I'd be upset. Not a hill? A couple more. Eamon Thompson?

Ryan really did try, because yesterday he's like, can we avoid taping during that 9 o'clock? I'm like, trust me, Kyle's already got one taping, and then he's doing Phil at 10, so it doesn't really matter. But it's all good.

It does make me reminisce about the days, though, in high school when you skip school for the tournament. Man, to be young. Good times.

How old were you?

I wish it was better than that. Solo, dumb and dumber.

I thought they were going to give me shit again. I'm like, man, I just haven't had enough.

Not bad. For the record, I do have some, like, the Goodfellow brand Target shirts, and they are good shirts.

Yeah, so when I went there, I bought, like, a pack of white tees and then some of these, like, thicker Goodfellow white tees that are actually really dope. And then these mesh shorts. I like a mesh short for some reason. I love a mesh short. Speaking of legends, I have one pair of legends ones, but... You know, I wish that there was more color variety.

I only have the black, but they have some pretty good ones at Target if you're looking for that kind of thing. So what's up?

I don't think so. I do have Legends gear. I bought some stuff before I even knew that you were involved, too. And then you were like, oh, yeah, this is the brand that I deal with. I was like, oh, cool. I got an Instagram ad. But yeah, like if you're looking for... Yeah, that gets me, too.

I wore all winter. Now that I'm thinking about it, it's like a zip up gray, like fleece deal wore every day, every single day. All right.

That's great. Uh, I promise I'm not farming for this, but I really don't care, but I do. Yeah. It's a, you know, I got, I got a couple of numbers from there, you know, not afraid to admit it.

um there's a gravity one oh here's a it's not it's not it's not deep gravity it's it's defy gravity but i wouldn't expect you to know you would know well come on i like i your wife doesn't i mean we listen to the music every once in a while it's a pretty famous song defying oh i see defy yeah yeah okay yeah that's the we're still talking wicked okay yeah it's deep gravity at tj maxx Well, no.

Europeans love Mickey Mouse gear as adults. I've noticed that. Tight, too. They do. Yeah. Very tight.

Dog on it or like a truck.

You definitely shouldn't pay it back. That's already a win for you. Do not pay it back.

Yeah, that's insane. I just don't feel like this is worth... Who knows? Could you actually get arrested for this? Is it really worth getting this little one-over on the gym for the parking situation to have an actual consequence be in your future? If it's not that big of a deal, I'd probably stop. Clearly, they're...

it might just be a scare tactic, but like, why, why would you press your luck in that way? You know, like if they actually have like a, maybe undercover cop hanging around looking for people doing this and you're the guy that gets screwed. I'm just saying like, who knows? Like you never know. And you're the one guy that gets screwed.

Like I, that's, that's just, I wouldn't, it's probably not worth it in my opinion.

And, you know. You're right. Younger. This is an age thing. Cause younger me, like I, you know how many parking tickets I had unpaid in West Hartford when I was living there. I was like, yeah, these don't matter. This was just like a coupon. I don't really care. I don't think I ever did pay it. Wow. I love it.

yeah i don't understand there's a long story of why i actually didn't get charged these that i don't want to share on the podcast okay but uh i could share off air but yeah like but older me is like i don't know like what's the like yeah shit to lose guy that's yeah why i do most of the things i do now it's also five dollars okay it's also five dollars right but think about this how

Wargon would have had some stuff on the Wicked Combo if we'd let him, but that's all right.

You want details? Fine. I drive a Ferrari. 355 Cabriolet. What's up? I have a ridiculous house in the South Fork. I have every toy you could possibly imagine. And best of all, kids, I am liquid. So, now you know what's possible. Let me tell you what's required.

It's quite a swing.

Would you want one as a freshman or a sophomore in a dorm? Sophomore, yes. Freshman, no. You got to make inroads. Yeah. Yeah, that's fair.

Queen bed as in, like, brought her bed or, like, tied two beds together? Because that's what we did. We, like, found some storage room and put together another bed.

Like, they were like, hey, you want to put our beds together?

Fire marshal doesn't want any part of that in college. Like, is that paper on the wall? Yeah. Well, you guys sold it to me at the bookstore. I didn't know that we could put it up.

You're 6'3"?

It's never too late. The one thing I'll say, it's never too late.

Damn. Which one should we focus on?

He said that everyone's great. He's enjoying life and money and all that stuff. I mean, it's not like it costs 50 bucks to submit an application. It'll feel better just submitting it, right? It probably already did by the time he sent this, right? But yeah, I couldn't take it. I couldn't take that job. And that's kind of the going rate.

Like when Ryan was talking about the salary, he was like, wow, it's almost a little high to be like somebody's assistant in this type of industry. It's just... If it's your first gig, it's just not going to be good for a while, pay-wise.

Yeah, you might be acting a little different than you think you are. All this for what? Yeah, I don't know. Especially having a taste. If you didn't have a taste and you're just fresh graduating and you're like, I don't know what direction I want to go, cool, man.

A million impressions.

I'd send it. I think you'd feel better just sending it. Sure, send it. At least you're not like, man, what if I did do it? So send it.

There's like if it's a murder, but if it's a death, it's if it's just a no foul play or something.

Okay. Yeah. I thought it was a murder. Like if it's a murder, you got to say, but I think if it's just a, it's a murder, you go find it.

Yeah.

Kyle? I mean, I'm the only one here who hasn't bought a house. I mean, maybe I wouldn't be surprised to know if Wargon closed out a house his sophomore year somewhere in Orlando. We would just learn that about him. But I think he's an apartment guy in New York right now. But I don't really know. I think I would just be looking for an edge when it comes to making a big purchase like that.

So this would be all green lights for me, especially walking across the street. to the golf course and you know, what did he say? He's got a hoop and all it's just, it's perfect. It's perfect. Neighbors next door, you know, built in childcare community. You got there. This is a one for me. I would be like, this is, this is all green lights. Your wife's into it. You don't have to do it.

You're the one who has to like be convinced. Just be convinced, convince yourself. You can convince yourself of anything.

Like if you can get a certificate from some... By the way, I'm sure you could get some lady to show up to your house and be like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's going to take a few sessions.

Like a restocking fee.

day one I always think it'd be kind of fun until like they wake up in the morning and they've just been eating alive at night and it's like just 19 more nights of this I was like that 19 well I don't know how long they stay but you know I just couldn't imagine like the foreseeable future and just be like well hope it's not this bad when I wake up tomorrow like I just that aside from being hungry and you know finding you know getting out of the rain or whatever just the just the laying there for bugs at night depending on the bugs I think

No, the boys, everyone's kind of coming back. Travel day yesterday. We were in Austin for the Bill pod late night, Thursday night, which was fun. Hung out with CR, Fantasy, Shea Serrano. Kurt Goldsberry was there, who will be obviously is on the pod today. So it was a fun time.

Vibes were high. I will say Kyle. Yeah, Kyle literally was passing his phone around to the jukebox apps and everyone was just picking a song. What did you I picked? I wasn't trying to suck up or anything, but I had Steely Dan on my mind, so I picked Reel In The Ears. I was just kind of into that song. I had just watched the Yacht Rock doc, and I was like, this is just on my mind.

So that was my song choice. I started with Night Moves just to kick it off, and then everyone seemed to like that.

No, I did pick a Weezer song the second time that didn't get played. So, you know, next time.

I'll get that one the next time he's at Frolic Room. It's like, why say it ain't so plain? What's going on here?

Exactly.

I thought you put me in a corner.

I don't I don't think the last I don't know the last time I even got someone for jury duty. I did have to sit in once I had to go in and they told me to go home. And that was like the only day I had to do it. But that felt like it was like 10 years ago. So maybe I'm just like off the grid right now. I don't know. They don't know where I'm at. I keep moving.

They just know that you're a real trustworthy person. Yeah.

Quick aside, though, speaking of Mrs. Doubtfire, this came up in the friend group recently, probably within the last year or so. One of my buddies let it slip that he has dude looks like a lady on his workout playlist, which was literally the most insane thing I've ever heard.

I'm not saying it's not a fun song. It's just insane. A Jim Blayless song is absolutely nuts. This was a 4-1. This is the five buddies. It was a 4-1 landslide. You're insane. But I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong. I guess Kyle's on my guy's side. Shout out to my friend Jeremy. It would have been 4-2. I'll tell you that. If I was in that group.

I never really got into Aerosmith.

There was this song from Armageddon. I remember that was part of my youth. I just remember that being a really dramatic song. What was it? I forget. Don't Want to Miss a Thing, right? And I was like, oh. Then you get older and you're like, oh, Dream On is kind of cool. But yeah, I don't know. I never really got into Aerosmith the way I did a lot of other bands. Like older bands, I guess.

Okay. He thinks the Josh Allen should do the Josh B. Allen because he was Josh Allen first.

I think he changed his name. Yeah, let me look this up.

What? What? Yeah. Here he goes. His name is Josh Hines Allen. So he just hyphenated another name.

So maybe that's what you got to do. The hyphen thing is in now.

That's a great connotation, but yeah.

Yeah, it's kind of that thing. If you take it too seriously and get too offended by it, that's kind of a... I don't know. That's a dick move. I don't, people aren't going to like that and you're going to put people off. So is that kind of your goal here? Is it really that, is it really worth being that annoyed that like a couple of people here and there make a joke about this? Like, I don't know.

No, I think you just gotta, I think there's no, there's no good answer except for the one you had, right?

No, I don't know. Well, that would be a tough one.

He's good. Good for him.

I've had several people mention that to me. Being like that person's insane.

Let's do a quick one. We got a quick one.

I think you can't tell them like, Hey, you should not do this, but you know, you guys are out hanging out. Just be like, Hey man, like talking this through, like you sure this is what you want to go with. Don't like make him seem like an asshole. Don't make him seem like an idiot because he's probably just going to push back on it.

I mean, the other thing is clearly like this is a bad decision for like 95 percent of the population. But first serious girlfriend, you guys are 30. I don't know. Maybe he's just like I found somebody I like and it doesn't seem like he's killing it out there on the girl scene to begin with. So maybe this actually could be a good thing for our guy, you know?

And when you think of that, he's screwed.

That means he's not a normal guy to begin with. So maybe this kind of thing would work for him. He's hosed.