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Chapter 1: What is the focus of Dr. Thema Bryant's new book?
Hello, and thank you for listening to the Oprah podcast. Hello to you watching on YouTube. We are diving into today, healing relationships with our loved ones and the one that matters the most, our relationship with ourselves. It's the ultimate. I want you to welcome with me Dr. Tama Bryant. Can we just speak a minute about what betrayal does to the spirit?
It's depleting. I'll tell you that much. You are not actually grieving the relationship. You're grieving your idea of what you thought the relationship would be. That is so powerful. For too long, we are made to believe that we must say yes to everything. And I want to tell you the holiness of no. No is a sacred word.
The holiness of no. I like that. I heard that.
Let the church say amen. A graduate of Duke University, Dr. Tama Bryant, who goes by Dr. Tama, is a clinical psychologist, a professor of psychology at Pepperdine University, and an ordained minister. Dr. Tama is the author of three books and is the host of the popular The Homecoming podcast, which raises awareness about mental health.
Your latest book is called Matters of the Heart, which I was even so touched by the title. Matters of the Heart, Healing Your Relationship with Yourself and Those You Love. And let me say to all of you who are watching or listening, this book is a treasure. It's a treasure trove of wisdom for any phase of your life. And we have you covered on this episode.
Whatever you're going through, Dr. Tama talks about how to set better boundaries, forgiving without receiving an apology. Yes. I'm going to say that again. Forgiving without receiving an apology. Don't we all want to know how to do that? Investing deeper in your current relationships and releasing those in your life who just are not healthy for you to let them, as Mel Robba
said on a previous podcast to let them go. And you start the book with this. I love this so much. I come to this work as your facilitator, you say. Someone who has experienced living with a full heart, living a busy life with a neglected heart, going through the deep sea diving of living with a broken heart and tenderly and compassionately healing my heart. Why did you need to
heal your own heart. First of all, I want to say thank you, Oprah, for having me.
This is so wonderful and something I have been looking forward to being able to share this work with the public because many of us are walking around with broken hearts. And I like to say my understanding of healing my heart is not just from doctoral studies or reading books, but having lived it so to know firsthand that it's possible to heal our hearts.
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Chapter 2: How can setting boundaries improve your relationships?
We're learning how to heal our relationships with others and ourselves. Author Dr. Tama Bryant is here and she is just full of wisdom on this episode of the Oprah podcast. We have you did that thing right there. That was that was so excellent. Thank you. We have Nastasha joining us from Chicago. Hey, welcome. Hi. How's Chicago? Where are you?
So I'm in a South suburb of Chicago, Homer Glen near Orland Park. Okay.
I know where that is. And I hear after 15 years of nursing and caring for others that you have now come to a revelation about yourself and the matters of your heart. Tell us what that is. What happened?
Yeah. Yeah. So thank you, Oprah and Dr. Kthema for having me here today and really this platform, this podcast. So I'm on an emotional healing journey with myself. I became a teen mom at the age of 16. And while my daughter, Caitlin, was an absolute blessing, she literally saved my life because I was on a bad path as a teenager.
But I struggled with kind of my sense of self-worth and trying to prove myself. you know, kind of trying to beat that stigma or, you know, that being another statistic in terms of a teen mom. So I really just like pushed myself into my nursing career, you know, working full time, going to school. I mean, going all the way to the end.
I got my terminal degree, my doctorate in nursing, which I'm extremely proud of. But in that process, I neglected the people that matter the most, which was my family.
And I remember this aha moment, as you say, Oprah, where husband Dale, who's an amazing man, and we speak to each other from a place of love and honesty, he said to me, I feel like you treat your patients better than you treat your family. Yeah. And it was in that moment that I was like, oh, my God, I am pouring so much in to others and service that by the time I come home, I'm empty.
And I am not showing up as my best self to the people that matter the most. And so it was really hard, but I decided that I would make a career shift so that I could give to these nonprofessional aspects of my life. And then but then I found myself in another predicament. I was in this like identity crisis. You know, for 15 plus years, I've been a nurse. I've been a nurse practitioner.
But now that I'm not in that role, I'm not directly doing that. It was kind of like, who am I?
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