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Chapter 1: What recent political events are discussed?
Hello, everybody. I'm Jesse Waters along with Rosanna Scotto, Jessica Tarlov, Dana Perino, and Greg Gutfeld. It's 5 o'clock in New York City, and this is The Five. Six months after Kamala got steamrolled and banished to Australia for speaking gigs, the Democratic Party just took another smack from the ugly stick of unpopularity.
According to the latest poll, Republicans have a 10-point advantage on net favorability. But have no fear, Libs. Mayor Pete thinks ditching the all the hoity-toity talk will help Democrats win back their spot at the cool kids table.
If I hear one more time, like, uh, uh, A well-off liberal doctor or lawyer saying, you know, that, quote, unquote, these folks are voting against their economic interests. I just wonder whether they ever contemplated the fact that somebody could turn around and say, so are you.
But Libby, little Debbie thinks the voters have got it all wrong about the Democrats.
Democrats are typically tagged as tortoises, slugs or sloths. Slow, plodding, passive. And then a little bit later, there was a respond to you said the Democrats are like deer in headlights. How is it that you think that the Democratic Party has has earned these descriptions?
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Chapter 2: How are Democrats perceived in recent polls?
John, I'm not focused on the animals that some New York Times reporter compares the political parties to. My constituents are human beings. I'm focused on the humans I represent, not animal comparisons.
And now Politico is proposing a bizarre shadow cabinet of Democrats to challenge the Trump administration, featuring such gems as alleged fraudster Tish James as attorney general, Jon Stewart as VA secretary, Giselle Fetterman, the wife of Big John, would be DHS secretary, Bill Nye the science guy as EPA head, and comedian Nikki Glaser for the Small Business Administration.
This is an interesting idea, a shadow cabinet, Dana. I think it's ridiculous.
I mean, but they are grasping at straws, OK? And they're circling the drain. There's lots of analogies that we could use for this. I joked with Jessica. I haven't seen her in a week that I leave and I come back and it's the same topic. And I think when Hammer asked me this morning, how long does this new cycle last? I said. I think it's for a long time.
I don't see anything really getting it off of the front page because, one, they're not dealing with it directly, and two, there's just so much more. In fact, Fox News Digital just has a piece up today about a lot of the executive orders and how many of them were signed by Autopen. And these were huge, sweeping deals. And we have...
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Chapter 3: What is a shadow cabinet and why is it controversial?
Not testimony, but we have on the record comments from Speaker Johnson. Remember when he went and had a meeting with Biden and he says, why did you sign the executive order to ban LNG? And he says, I never did that. I guess you did. Like, well, it was just a study. Oh, guess what? Well, the study that goes to EPA gets signed off.
And Biden didn't know anything about it, and he wouldn't have done that if he knew. I mean, that to me is just the tip of the iceberg. So a lot more to come. And also you have the fact that there's a split in the Democratic Party that's very interesting. You have someone like Rahm Emanuel who's saying we have to go back to the center.
That's probably true if they want to win, but that's not where the base is. The base is so much farther to the left. Two weeks ago, AOC was seen as the person who's the number one choice for Democrats, the most exciting person in the Democratic Party, the one that people are looking to. Last week, she called for ending ICE. Right.
The policies that she has are much further to the left than someone like Rahm Emanuel wants to go. So they need like a giant etching sketch to shake all around to see if they can get rid of the policy positions they've had since 2016, 15, 16, 17. And I just don't see this ending for quite a while.
Jessica, some may say this will go on forever. Are those people our producers? That person is me. But when Dana brings up the auto pen, that means it's a legit scandal. It's not a conspiracy theory.
By this table standards, yes. I take Dana the most seriously, for sure. Listen, I feel like we are kind of halfway through the original sin cycle. There are a couple more books to come. And every time that one comes out, it's going to be rough. There are going to be details. There are going to be new names of people who should have said something but didn't say something.
And I'll have a bad week, but I'm in it for the long haul. And I'm committed. And I'm also committed to the truth, Jesse. And the truth is that the Democrats are very unpopular, but so is a lot of what Donald Trump is doing. So in a polling Marquette, Fox News, all the goodies, he's down 16 on the economy, down 14 on foreign policy, 26 on handling tariffs and 32 on cost of living.
And this reconciliation bill that they're trying to pass through the Senate right now has opposition from more senators than they can handle. So you've got the Josh Hawleys of the world who's miraculously concerned about throwing people off Medicaid. Rick Scott and Maria Bartiromo was. Raking him over the coals this morning about his views.
Rand Paul, who has been talking about everything from how unconstitutional it is for Trump to be putting in these tariffs to how we're ballooning the deficit. Ron Johnson, Susan Collins, Jerry Moran. Those are a lot of senators that you've got to get on board.
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Chapter 4: What challenges do Democrats face in upcoming elections?
That does not bode well for 2026 for the Republicans or for 2028 when we're going to have a big, beautiful primary and we will get a great candidate and everyone will forget about the hoity toity and we shall be victorious.
Jessica thinks she can sell that agenda, Greg, that Trump's this guy that hates the poor and he's just out for Wall Street. He's the exact opposite.
The funny thing is, the reason why there's so much opposition to the bill is because it didn't go far enough. This is not about spending. I mean, you're saying this bill is awful because they're going to be cutting. We have to cut. We are heading toward a doom spiral. We're in a doom spiral.
But it balloons the deficit.
I'm saying that. But that's not why you're mad about it. You're mad that they might cut something or they might cut taxes and they might cut Medicaid. I'm saying is you should be mad that they're not cutting more. In terms of cutting Medicaid, let's be honest about the Medicaid stuff. This is about able-bodied young men and illegal immigrants. So push that aside and talk about the fact that.
You and I don't like the bill, but I don't like the bill because it's not going to stop the apocalypse. You don't like the bill because you want to press on the gas and go right off the cliff. Those are two different attitudes. We need to cut the deficit, not raise it. Can I talk about the shadow cabinet? Please. Okay. What is this story called? I know it's not summer. It's a clickbait story.
It's a summer clickbait story. No research, no reporting at all. As for a shadow cabinet, we already had one. It was four years under Biden. It was a cabal. It was responsible for the auto pens and the EOs. They had a shadow cabinet and kept Joe in a real cabinet while Kamala was at the liquor cabinet. Meanwhile. It raises the question, who signed the pardons?
Did Hunter Biden create and sign his own pardon? Because that is balls. But it's also illegal and it has to be stopped. If you look at this... Celebrity-filled cabinet, though, it basically is like a covers band of Trump. It's like, hey, he's on TV. He's famous. He's got a name. Let's do what he does. But it's like trying to create a human by pasting together body parts. It doesn't make it alive.
It's still dead, and you're still not doing the hard work, which is you have to change. You have Pete Buttigieg talking about the language, but the Dems are focused on the language because they realize the substance underneath it is what people hate. He talks about condescension.
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Chapter 5: How does Trump's media accessibility compare?
I do.
I know. All right. We'll just do it a little bit more.
Did you just have vodka with breakfast?
Don't tell everyone about my regimen.
What is in here anyway? Everyone's been asking. I guess it's water.
How's Pete's beard doing? I think Pete. We finally agree on the same things. There's three things that he said, really. We lost the trust of America right away as soon as the Biden administration took office. Closing down schools, he said, was a big problem. And then he also said that you have to. Oh, gee, what did he say? Hold on. I got so lost up in the border, the border.
Everybody knew what was going on in their neighborhood. They saw changes that they couldn't deal with. And then also when they went to the grocery market and they saw that the eggs were too expensive or they went to fill up the gas in their car, it was too expensive. The Democrats lost the country and those three issues right at the very beginning.
So, again, another Democrat says we were right.
Remember when the chief of staff said that inflation was a high-class problem? I mean, you don't get much more condescending than that. Condescension.
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Chapter 6: What are the implications of Biden's recent actions?
Well, I'd like to be honest. Yes, I did. Next question, please. What are you referring foreign visas for? What are you talking about for colleges? OK, so you're off of Israel. Now you're talking about colleges, right? OK, well, we're going to see. Look, Harvard has been a disaster.
So you'd think by now Democrats would stop getting baited by every truth post or presser. And yet Mark Halperin is stunned by how they keep falling for it.
The emails and texts I get from my Democratic sources, as I said before, the Trump administration's over. And it's just a bankrupt, you know, corrupt mess. And he's already a failed president and he's not getting anything done. They're back to a Schiffian, Adam Schiffian and Heather Cox Richardson point of view, which is everything Trump does is an epic disaster.
And and that the American people will turn on him and Republicans in the midterms because he's impolite.
Yeah. Greg, a lot of these Democrats seem to think that Trump's style is going to sink him. Yeah.
The Dems and the media spent his first term with their hair on fire over his tweets. Four years later, their solution is they let their hair grow out again and set it on fire again. And it's not working. Trump gives them so much. And all they do is cry. No, no, no. Make it stop. Make the mean man stop. Look, you had four years of hibernation. You didn't have to do squats. You get nothing from us.
It's funny. Now you have to do your job and nobody cares. It's like there's nothing the media can do. Nobody trusts you. You're like the background. You're like the sound of an air conditioner in a room. We just got used to the hum. We don't even know you're there. You know, the funny thing is the Dems don't understand Trumpers. that Trumpers understand that Trump is a package deal.
You know, we know what we're getting with Trump, and it's an all-inclusive package. Maybe there's some things you could do without it, but you can't do Trump a la carte. There's just no way to do it. I used to think that he won in spite of Trump's tweets. I think now he won because of it, because the outbursts and his kind of tone and attitude tells you everything's in working order.
It's like, you know, when you have a Shelby Mustang in the driveway, you hear the engine. It's loud. It's scary. But it's working. Meanwhile, the Democrats car is in the garage. It's up on blocks and it's sputtering every time you turn the key.
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Chapter 7: How are Democratic leaders expected to evolve?
They just hope that he will go away and that now they're hoping that people will just get tired of him because of his style. And meanwhile, the Democrats popularity continues to go down while Trump's is, you know, it's down relative to where it was. Jessica, I agree. But it's still better than where they are.
Well, you know, the Democrats used to have their finger on the pulse. But let's face it, six months later after the election, and they're still trying to figure out what went wrong. So they go to this highfalutin hotel and they sit down and they try to figure out what they did wrong, what their new message is. And then everybody finds out they went to, you know, a very expensive hotel.
And are they tone deaf? Are they not listening to the American people? The Democrats were a party of lunch pail voters, labor unions. They had their finger on the pulse, championing labor, fair wages, social issues. They've gone so far from their original cause. I think that they're looking to find a messenger. And right now, I don't think they have one in mind.
It seems every few weeks they have somebody new. Let me open up to Jessica then. Do you think they have a messenger now that is effective?
Yeah, I do. I think Bernie Sanders and AOC are very effective messengers.
So do we.
But that's not about who's going to lead the ticket. But that's in such a contrast with what Rahm Emanuel is saying that the party needs. Totally. And I enjoy listening to Rahm Emanuel and hearing from him, and I'm glad that he's all over the media circuit as well. There is something compelling in the energy that AOC and Bernie are bringing.
And you see that in the reaction of people in one of these rallies who say this isn't even my politics. You think that Iowa is full of the Idaho energy, but the policies are terrible. It's not about policy right now. We're not. The election is 18 months away for the midterms, even not even the presidency. People are desperate to see the Democrats have a pulse.
They like Chris Murphy right now, who has a completely moderate set of policies. He has if you watch him, he's creating content constantly. He's right now walking across the state of Connecticut talking to voters. He has a moderate.
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