Dana Perino
Appearances
The Five
The Five 05-14-2025
It all seems a little about about him. Now, he could be exactly right. I'm not suggesting the president's not right about this, but I don't understand. how you go to a country and say to people in front of you, the 2020 election was rigged. I don't believe it was. But even if it was, the people you're saying in front of, Mr. President, they don't even have elections.
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The Five 05-14-2025
The thing that troubles me the most is I think about it in an overarching way. I don't mind us resetting and talking about a recharge and a redo of our role in the world. But we are forced for good, for democracy, for rule of law, for decency, for righting wrongs. And if we're going to change that,
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The Five 05-14-2025
I think we deserve to hear more than just the president being in a U.S.-Saudi conference, praising these men for the great work that they're doing and for the business deals they're doing. I love commerce as much as anyone.
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The Five 05-14-2025
But commerce to me does not at all, is not at all greater than whom we are as a nation and what we mean for the 250 years we've been on this earth, because we've been a force for so much good. And I hope and pray we continue to be. And I just want to hear the president articulate how this does it.
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The Five 05-14-2025
You're not going to put me in with the communist China. You're absolutely wrong.
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The Five 05-14-2025
So I think the country settled that for us. They elected Donald Trump again. And they said that close the door on that and move forward. I do agree with you in one regard that they needed to offer ideas.
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The Five 05-14-2025
I mean, can you imagine if Democrats were out endorsing the Brad Gerstner, Ted Cruz, Cory Booker idea about 1K accounts for kids being born right after they're born, regardless of what their income is in their family?
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The Five 05-14-2025
providing the first $50,000 of individual income tax-free, the first $50,000 of business income tax-free, that we're going to ensure that kids have tutoring after school and summer initiatives for schools that hold teachers accountable in schools all across this country. We're going to go after China by doing what?
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The Five 05-14-2025
We're going to strike a deal with Ukraine so we can get their rare earth minerals as partners with them so we don't have to import them from China. And we're going to ban TikTok from here because they capture too much of our information. Democrats, they're so... much there for us to be doing.
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The Five 05-14-2025
If we continue to fall in the trap of talking about Joe Biden, bless his heart, he gave 40-plus years to this country of service, and I'm grateful for it. But we have a country, we have people in this country who are expecting leadership and ideas from us. And until we do that, we don't deserve to represent them anymore if we continue to fall into these traps.
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The Five 05-14-2025
Mine are written for me, and I give them to them, and they still don't.
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The Five 05-14-2025
I'm still writing down the words that James said. Intersectionality. Equity. I think he's on to, I mean, these words are things that I understand where he's coming from, but I think he's trying to tell the party, get back to where people are. You've gotten so far outside on the periphery. And the periphery isn't necessarily bad. It's just irrelevant.
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The Five 05-14-2025
And people don't care about to get back to talking about the things that people care about. It's worth listening to.
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The Five 05-14-2025
In a woke crouch. He gave Democrats the two best things. In the early 90s, he said it's the economy's stupid. And then during, I don't know if it's George Floyd, he said the stupidest things Democrats have said is defund the police. We should listen to him. He can give us that foundation.
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The Five 05-14-2025
Well, I think he knows he's not ready to do that, but his spirit and his instincts are what should be in charge of the party.
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The Five 05-14-2025
The EPA is eyeing a rollback of what some say is your vehicle's most annoying feature. Lee Zeldin, the EPA administrator, posting on X, quote, start stop technology where your car dies at every red light so companies get a climate participation trophy. EPA approved it and everyone hates it. So you know what? We're fixing it. Are you annoyed by this when you drive or when you hear people talk?
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The Five 05-14-2025
What do you think about the slavery decision that the government made? One more thing. Let's see it for the girls from around the way.
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The Five 05-14-2025
I do. Good to be with you, by the way. I hope so. I think we should stop falling into the trap, guys. I understand due process and I understand wanting to ensure that people are treated fairly.
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The Five 05-14-2025
But at a time in which the Senate and the Congress, and particularly Republicans in the Senate and the Congress, are debating what the budget should look like next year, you have Republican senators arguing with Republican senators about Medicaid cuts. Mm-hmm.
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The Five 05-14-2025
You have Democrat Republican congressmen arguing with Republican congressmen about how who should have taxes cut for them and who should have taxes raised on them. While we're not offering those things, I don't know. Again, I'm not suggesting at all that we shouldn't be protecting people's individual rights. But everyday Americans put Donald Trump in office.
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The Five 05-14-2025
because he wants to ensure that we're protected from gangbangers and criminals who happen to be here illegally. They also put him in office because they believe that he was going to revive and revitalize and rejuvenate the economy in ways that would help every American. And I contend he's not doing a great job there. I contend we should be offering ideas on.
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The Five 05-14-2025
how we reshore manufacturing to the country, not by using tariffs, how we can educate kids, how we can educate engineers and electricians. So when those jobs do come back, we're prepared. We need to be positive. This is this is exactly us falling into the trap that President Trump and I would argue many on the Republican side who are political want us to. Let's stop it. Get back to the issues.
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The Five 05-14-2025
It's a woke crouch. I don't know that position. I never get in a crouch like that.
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The Five 05-14-2025
So I differ slightly. It's hard for me to differ with my pal Dana on a substantive issue as big as this. But I do on the Syria thing for this reason. I don't know where the national strategic security interests are and what we're doing. I take you at everything you said on face value.
The Five
The Five 05-14-2025
But they haven't. And we really we we we. And he asked the Saudis, Saudis also. The reason I say this is because the president says a lot of things the beginning of a week. And in a couple of weeks later, he says something different. We remember we had a lot of tariffs on a lot of countries and he suspended all of them for 90 days and kept the ones on China.
The Five
The Five 05-14-2025
And then things got wishy washy with the market. He took the things off China. And so we now have another 90 days for that. you take a plane from a group of people that we've set around this table. I've heard all of us say the Qataris, they harbored Hamas. I didn't hear him at all say, I'll accept this plan if you guys renounce this and tell me you'll never do this again.
The Five
The Five 05-13-2025
But that's not all, folks. Joe Biden apparently did not recognize George Clooney at their fundraiser and had to be told who he was by an aide. Now, that is an outrage, isn't it? Which apparently left the superstar shaken to his core. And that was the part that I thought was pretty funny. Like, imagine you're George Clooney, Jesse. And somebody doesn't recognize you.
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The Five 05-13-2025
How dare they? And then George Clooney said, all right, I'm going to write the op-ed that does him in.
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The Five 05-13-2025
I think parties should have discipline. And I think that, you know, if you're going to break the rules, just like fully break them. But the Democrats are cracking me up. David Hogg, it's been the perfect dance of the situation that they're in. First of all, they said, we need youth. Then like, wait, that's too much youth.
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The Five 05-13-2025
Then the youth are killing off our olds and our moderates and like throw out the youth. And then the voting procedure thing is just a fig leaf, basically for the lack of their discipline. Instead of just saying that was a mistake. You're a lunatic. You're out of here. You're going to cost us seats and let them go. Besides David Hogg.
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The Five 05-13-2025
Remember what, if you look back at his FEC reports, he makes a ton of money for his PAC. He made like $10 million. He spent $275,000 on Uber Eats, and he donated it to campaigns.
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The Five 05-13-2025
So the new owners have to dig deep in their pockets. Like they have to recruit a good player. I think that's how that goes. I think you landed it. Thank you very much. Okay, a couple things. One, any administration has to have a triage situation. Like imagine you're in the emergency room. Like what are you going to fix first? Border first. Fixed. Okay. And then tackling inflation and the economy.
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The Five 05-13-2025
OK, this is Sean Duffy's number one issue. He has made it very clear and he's not hiding from the issue. He's absolutely willing to get out there and talk about it. And yes, he can say we should have been investing in this. He could even say we should have been doing this during COVID. And that's also during Trump's administration. Fine. He can say that he's a transportation secretary.
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The Five 05-13-2025
A couple of things that he could do also would be, first of all, focus on it as an economic matter. Because a lot of people want to travel. You have to travel for business. Your mom and dad, you work. You want to get home in time for the Little League game. You want to take your family on vacation.
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The Five 05-13-2025
There's so much economic activity that happens at these airports that that should be a number one issue for the administration. Also, pilots, we make them retire early. They did the same to air traffic controllers. But then they changed their minds and said, actually, we need more pilots. You can actually go up to a certain age to be a pilot. Well, can they do that early?
The Five
The Five 05-13-2025
Safely for air traffic control, perhaps. But the other thing I would say is this. I'm a little concerned that as the media does, that these delayed flights and problems at airports are the new shark bites of the summer. You know what I mean? I don't know.
The Five
The Five 05-13-2025
I mean, I think that it seems to me there might be plenty to criticize with him, but the media harps on everything and always is going after him, so it loses its punch when it's warranted.
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The Five 05-13-2025
It's time now for one more thing. I met a young woman named Emma Foley, and she writes for The Conservateur. And you should check out this magazine. It was great. Check out this headline, Greg. Dana Perino's Masterclass in Grace Under Pressure. We did an interview about the new book. I wish someone had told me. It's a great read, the article, but you should also get the book.
The Five
The Five 05-13-2025
And then I did Perino on Politics with Rich Zioli, and he was great. And that's all I have, Greg.
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The Five 05-13-2025
It doesn't make it right. One thing that really bothers me, Greg, is that still there's so many anonymous sources. But they're not anonymous because they're worried that Democrats will be mad at them. They're worried that they're going to be caught as liars.
The Five
The Five 05-13-2025
Privately, advisers debated whether a wheelchair would be required to get him through a second term. The president's doctor privately said that if he had another bad fall, a wheelchair might be necessary, and quipped that Biden's staff members were trying to kill him while he was trying to keep him alive.
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The Five 05-13-2025
Hello, everyone. I'm Dana Perino, along with Katie Pavlich, Marie Harf, Jesse Waters and Greg Gutfeld. It's five o'clock in New York City, and this is The Five. The Democrats who really want Joe Biden to go away, well, they might want to buckle up because we're getting another brutal bombshell about the cover-up of former President Biden's mental decline.
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The Five 05-13-2025
And who's going to identify the body? Well, I have a suggestion. Chuck Schumer was asked about this, and we have a little sound. Watch it.
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The Five 05-13-2025
These revelations shouldn't come as a shock if you were watching The Five during the Biden presidency. And now one of the book's co-authors is using the L word to describe the White House.
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The Five 05-13-2025
Marie, is that going to cut it for Democrats? I know you want Democrats to win and be successful in the future. Will that help? No.
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The Five 05-13-2025
There are 200 Democratic insiders quoted in here. A lot of them are anonymous. Even their current spokespeople, they want to remain anonymous. They don't want anything to do with this.
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The Five 05-13-2025
There was a choice here. Can I add one thing? We also didn't want a primary because Biden and his team did not believe that Kamala Harris would win. Well, after he dropped out.
The Five
The Five 05-13-2025
There are critics, however, that are pointing this out. The Tapper's record on the subject isn't exactly squeaky clean.
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The Five 05-13-2025
I do. I think they will be. Yes. Well, we will have much more on this. It's not going to end. Up next, President Trump drumming up some major investments for America on his Middle East trip.
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The Five 05-13-2025
Well, what's interesting is that for Chris Murphy, it's like for the last four years, you were championing the Inflation Reduction Act. And what did that do? It drove up inflation and it had all these green new scams in it in which you could give to all of your donors, many of whom now have gone bankrupt. So I don't like the idea of the plane.
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The Five 05-13-2025
But we're not talking about that right now because I don't think that's necessarily happening. What's interesting on this is that when President Trump signed the economic agreement this morning, he signs the economic agreement. Then Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth signs the defense agreement.
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The Five 05-13-2025
A lot of the economic agreement and the defense agreement are intertwined because Saudi wants protection. And so if you're going to get the protection, you need to have the weaponry and the weaponry is made by us. And so that is a good thing. And it's been a pretty good week for the president's economic agenda. Aside from that, the inflation number was good today. One of the big banks, J.P.
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The Five 05-13-2025
Morgan, really scaled back its projection for a recession after that China deal got announced for 90 days. And House Republicans are actually really moving forward on the big, beautiful bill that could get done. So I would say it's a pretty good week, and it's only Tuesday.
The Five
The Five 05-15-2025
It is pretty remarkable that you have Biden administration officials saying publicly, wow, we wish we could have done something like that.
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The Five 05-15-2025
No. But, I mean, first of all, when all these books are coming out, why not cancel your media appearances? Why is everybody out there talking? If you want to move forward, then cancel the media appearances and just take the L and just get over it for a while. Remember I used to say, why does President Biden never have a cabinet meeting? They never met. They went nine months without meeting.
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The Five 05-15-2025
And now you find out that anonymously they were saying they didn't hear from Biden for weeks at a time. Pete Buttigieg just told the media this week that he didn't see anything wrong with that. But what is Buttigieg doing all the time? He was working on his own political brand and not working on things like air traffic control.
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The Five 05-15-2025
Then you have somebody like Janet Yellen, the Treasury secretary, who could not get into the Oval Office to talk to him about something called inflation. And that they had to have talking points written for everybody in order to do that. I'm beginning to think that Lloyd Austin might have said something to President Biden about going into the hospital and that somebody forgot.
The Five
The Five 05-15-2025
And that he just was a good soldier and said, OK, fine, I'm not going to I'm not going to say anything anymore. I made a mistake a couple of years ago and I demanded that Jake Sherman testify. But Jake Sherman works for Punchbowl News. I meant Jake Sullivan. And I actually do wonder where the hearings are about this.
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The Five 05-15-2025
She is nice. But what's interesting is that on the protester side of things, they make RFK Jr. more sympathetic. Of course. Of course, if you're like if you think you don't want to don't agree with him, whatever, on some of the things that he's doing, when the Democrats or these lunatics do this kind of thing, it just makes you crazy.
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The Five 05-15-2025
The guy from Ben and Jerry's, he has more money than he knows what to do with. And he goes and he's protesting this. He's protesting about Gaza at the HHS hearing. It's really, really pathetic. Someone ought to check the 25th Amendment for him.
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The Five 05-15-2025
I'm with you. You don't wear underwear? I meant her. for the record. I would love it if somebody said, guess what? Every day you're going to wear this particular color. We get to have different colors on the show, obviously, but I think this is a great thing. If you are going to work at a place where you could spill coffee on yourself, wearing a black shirt is great. It's great.
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The Five 05-15-2025
Time now for one more thing. You know, teenagers get a driver's license, and then this could happen. A teenage driver narrowly avoided a plunge into the Long Island Sound. Check that out. While trying to leave a marina, the 17-year-old accidentally hit the gas, sending her feet flying over the guardrails and onto the dock below.
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The Five 05-15-2025
Miraculously, the car managed to stick the landing, but was left sitting dangerously close to the edge. Anyway. Yes, Greg, I knew. I could feel it. Harold.
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The Five 05-15-2025
I'm going to disagree with you on the part about the Israelis because I don't think the purpose is to distance. In fact, when they killed Sinwar yesterday, the Americans said nothing. When Obama's team went over there, every time they went, they had to say something critical about the Israelis. And the Trump administration has not done that. Harold, do you want to politely disagree with me again?
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The Five 05-15-2025
Team Biden is said to be in awe of President Trump's de la palooza trip to the Middle East. The commander in chief is wrapping things up today with a visit to the United Arab Emirates after racking up an Operation Warp speed of economic and diplomatic deals in just a couple of days. It's got former Biden officials running to Axios and begrudgingly saluting his boldness.
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The Five 05-15-2025
No, you said that we are distancing from them on purpose and making deals with other people.
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The Five 05-15-2025
Kellyanne, it's interesting to have the juxtaposition yet again. This has been going on for almost a year with President Trump getting wins and the Biden team continuing to suffer losses. That also continued this week as you compare one administration to the next in the middle of all of these books coming out saying that Biden wasn't really even in charge.
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The Five 05-15-2025
Hello, everyone. I'm Dana Perino, along with Kellyanne Conway, Harold Ford Jr., Jesse Waters and Greg Gutfeld. It's five o'clock in New York City, and this is The Five.
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The Five 05-15-2025
One guy said, gosh, I wish I could work for an administration that can move that quickly. And President Trump couldn't resist taking a jab at how his predecessor was received by the Gulf states.
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The Five 05-15-2025
Like they used to hope that the judicial system was going to solve their problem.
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The Five 05-15-2025
Yeah. And other things. And we will continue to talk about this because I'm next born to run his mouth. Bruce Springsteen belts out a brutal ballot against President Trump.
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The Five 05-15-2025
And here's just the latest example of Trump's audacious foreign policy moves, like a nuclear deal with Iran.
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The Five 05-15-2025
You're a fan, right? Don't you remember what I said on my birthday? What did you say? That my unpopular opinion is that he's overrated. Oh, that's right. No, but I mean, obviously, I like one song. Just kidding. What I don't love is, for example, we have had stories about Rosie O'Donnell, right?
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The Five 05-15-2025
So you can praise her for saying, oh, well, at least she finally followed through on that and went off and moved to Ireland and wants to be on TV. So Bruce Springsteen, first of all, I never go to a concert and want a political lecture ever. I don't go to Broadway for political lectures and I don't watch movies for political lectures. And I would just prefer not to have that.
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The Five 05-15-2025
But then you heard the reaction from the crowd. And I really dislike it when an American would go over and do that, especially by the president's overseas. I would I also would say I would say the same if a pop star did that or a rock star did that about Joe Biden when he was president. I just think it's wrong. I wouldn't do it.
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The Five 05-15-2025
All of his fans would hate it. Yeah, he would get booed. Right, so he's playing to the crowd. The other thing on Mr. Impeachment Man, I think about the Democrats who are standing behind him holding the signs, and they just got smacked down so badly by the people in their own party and how far away we are from the previous Trump administration.
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The Five 05-15-2025
And also, after all of the trials that he had to go through in the last four years, like here in New York, it fell flat. This guy was openly attacked by other Democrats, and here's a prediction, because we like predictions. I bet the Democrats find a way to primary this guy, and he will not be in office in 2026, after 2026.