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Chapter 1: What is the main topic of this episode?
Welcome to the Big Sui, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Levitard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging.
I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there.
That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And now, here's the marching band to nowhere, fat face, and the habitual liar.
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Chapter 2: Who is Juju Watkins and why is her injury significant?
I am delighted to see this face again so soon. I hope that she comes around all the time. Elle Duncan, someone at ESPN that Zaslow is not feuding with and has never said anything bad about. I wanted to talk to her because I have been negligent in this first hour of, like, this was a bit of a devastating injury last night. I mean, not a bit of, like, when...
When everyone's watching the sport and the best player in it, Juju Watkins, goes down with a knee injury and gets carried off the court, March Madness becomes like, oh, eee, how am I supposed to talk about and feel about all that? That just stinks. That's just a body breaking down, and I wanted to watch her win everything because I know she can. So anyways, Elle, thank you for being on with us.
And yeah, the heartbreak in that, how did that go down last night?
Well, it was really brutal. probably tmi but i was in the bathroom and you know i'm still wearing my ifb we do have to take pee breaks um and i had my ifb in and i thought i lost the broadcast because it was silent and i was like what's going on and then all of a sudden i started getting text messages i'm like trying to furiously wash my hands my producer's like
Chapter 3: What are the implications of Juju Watkins' injury for USC?
get back to the studio, Juju just went down, it's bad, it looks really bad. And I was like, what? And so I run into the studio and you guys, the studio, which is normally, you know, especially with Shanae and Andrea, it's so joyful, so loud, like we're yelling, we're reacting. It matched the silence of the Galen Center. It was like, everyone was just sort of in a little bit disbelief.
From what we do, from a professional level, it's devastating because it's Juju Watkins because we wanted this Elite Eight matchup rematch with UConn because, to your point, she's going to be the National Player of the Year and they're ahead of schedule. On a personal level, it's devastating because of everything that Juju's given to the game, how hard she's worked, choosing to go...
to a USC program that a lot of people scratched their head. Like why? They haven't been relevant since Lisa Leslie. And she strapped her city on her back. Like she made LA a basketball town again. And just to see that happen in the way that it happened, to see someone who is so famously unemotional, like she puts up a 30-piece, no emotion.
To see her screaming in pain and writhing on the ground, it was horrific and devastating. And it absolutely changed the entire tenor of the tournament. It did.
Okay, so you're offering a lot of context there that I want to follow up on because of how this story hurts. The connection specifically to USC, walk us through the history of all of that, culturally, generationally, what that program means to those people and what it means to have this player, this hope go down like that.
Yeah, I mean, she has a giant mural in the city of LA. When she chose USC, actually on her signing day or her announcement day, whatever you call it, she actually came on SportsCenter and talked to me. And I, in a very soft way, kind of asked her that same thing that I just said, which is like, okay, I mean, I get it. You're from LA, but you're the number one prospect in the country.
Everyone wanted you. Why not go team up with UConn? Why not go to South Carolina? And she was so adamant that her entire goal... was to, in her own backyard, make basketball relevant again, to make that USC program a powerhouse like it was in the early 90s, before she was born. She wasn't born when Lisa Leslie was doing what she was doing at USC.
And when we talked with Lindsey Gottlieb last year at the Final Four after they lost to UConn in the Elite Eight, I was like, I know that you knew Juju was a prize, but did you know that she would get your program here this quickly? And she was like, no.
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Chapter 4: How does Elle Duncan view the current state of women's basketball?
i didn't know it would happen so fast you know like she thought it would take some time and maybe some transfers that would get them there um and she has made like i've talked to la friends who are like la is buzzing with basketball at a college level right you're always gonna have the lakers and sometimes the clippers but at a college level like with ucla being a powerhouse again and with usc and juju she's the face of basketball and she is
She has strapped that city on her back, and they love her so much for everything that she's done. I mean, USC has become, you know, the place to go watch games. We see every super megastar. We just saw Jaden Daniels there. It's just incredibly disappointed to see it go down like this. You know, you lose on the court, you get out battled, fine.
But, like, to see their chances suffer greatly because of what happened is just... It just can't come up with a better way to.
I believe that's a good way to clip that there. It just sucks. I can't come up with a better way to say that. And then she cuts out. But that I mean, that that's a good way to describe it. We could use a lot of words, but those two work.
Yeah, Elle, you talked about USC's chances. I want to get to that in a second because they are still a one seed, and Kiki Iriafen obviously is one of the best post players in the country, and she had a really great game after Juju went out last night, but this is unfortunately such a common thing in women's sports to see knee injuries.
It's happened to other great players right before the tournament. Liz Kitley comes to mind, Olivia Miles obviously, and it really impacted both of those teams' chances of winning a national title. What do you think will happen next.
I mean, there's obviously a tough matchup in the Sweet 16 round for USC now against a really good Kansas State team that just got some of their players back from health stuff. So do you still see them making a deep tournament run?
So I do think they can beat K-State. We talked about this yesterday. Like, what does this USC team look like without Juju? Because they haven't had to experience that. She averages 35 minutes a game. So they basically play five minutes a game without her. And so I do think it's going to force. I mean, listen, it's still USC. Like, they still have Talia Van Olhoffen, who transferred there.
Kiki Iria-Fenn, who you mentioned, had. a career high. And I do think that there was definitely a galvanizing sort of moment for them yesterday and having her back. We heard Lindsey Gottlieb talk about that.
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Chapter 5: What is the 'L Yes or L No' game?
L-o-yes. L-yes or L-no to women empowerment. L-o-yes.
L-yes. I feel like that's a no-brainer. Okay, excellent work playing the game incorrectly. But L-no to Billy. It's got to be right on the line. L-yes or L-no to racism. I mean, what are you doing?
Dan, L-no.
Come on, Dan. Oh, I'm sorry. Although lately in this country, I don't know. Kind of up for debate.
Not putting your cart back in the cart corral at the grocery store. L yes or L no?
L no. It requires no work. It's so rude. Like you're potentially damaging people's cars. Just you've been walking around a grocery store. What is it? I live in Connecticut. It's freezing. It's like three degrees and I will still take it to the thing or I'll take it to the front. Like that's so rude and not considerate for everybody else. Irish goodbye, L yes or L no? L yes.
Come on, like I've reached the age where I'm like, do I need to say bye to everyone in the room and make it a whole production? And no, I'm just gonna ghost you.
Bringing a Bluetooth speaker to the gym and playing your music out loud, L yes or L no?
Okay, as someone that literally carries my little JBL speaker everywhere she goes and forces people to listen to my music, I'm still a hard L no because people need different things when they work out and it's not necessarily your trap music.
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Chapter 6: How does the podcast handle controversial figures in sports?
Gotcha. You completely trapped me. I'll say the same thing. I like all the histrionics and she's so memeable and, you know, she's unapologetically herself. So I guess, you know, LES to all of you. you're going to separate it.
You're going to separate her personality and see her at the final four, Dan. It's so hard. I will have to see Dan Hurley. So yeah. Hell yes. I love it. Okay. No, it's, I did something unfair to her, but I'm actually curious how she navigates the labyrinth in these political times as someone who has strong opinions. She doesn't navigate. Well, no, I mean, yeah.
Like, but the monkey thing is hard because you can respect her. And also like, be wildly put off by a lot of other things she does.
Yeah, I would say that, yes, there is. I have a great respect for her as a coach and also as a former player. And she gets the best out of her girls. And, you know, I never played for her. If you were to believe a lot of the things that came out, that's problematic. But ultimately, like, I don't know her personally. I do think that, you know, she's a historic player.
type of figure in this sport so um and i love i love lsu like i love her girls so it's also hard for me because i think you know they love her and i love them so by proxy sure yeah but you do like you have to compartmentalize and that can be you know um i don't know her well enough to like make a snap judgment on her but just based on some of the things like yeah that feels
I had someone say that to me the other day. They were like, you picked Florida to win? I was like, yeah, because I don't know anything about men's basketball. I don't really watch. And they were like, oh, they're a coach. I was like, what about their coach? And they were like, yeah, there's some headlines. So I Googled and I was like, should I have chosen them?
But ultimately, I think they're a really good team. So that's kind of the journey.
L yes or L no, the dap that Mulkey gave that guy that one time coming out of the huddle.
The dap. You talking about the clipboard or the real dap?
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