One LGBTQ+ activist is surrounded by twenty-five conservatives in a raw conversation about identity, power, and the future of America’s youth. Zander Moricz steps into the circle to challenge assumptions and open a dialogue. From banned books to drag queens, healthcare to political power, this conversation asks: What are we really protecting, and at what cost? Follow our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@jubilee Follow Zander Moricz & SEE Alliance: https://www.instagram.com/zandermoricz https://seeourpower.org https://x.com/zandermoricz Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: Who is Zander Moricz and what is the format of this debate?
From Jubilee Media, this is Surrounded, where one brave soul faces a room full of disagreeers. Today's guest is an LGBTQ plus activist, Xander Morix. He is the executive director of C Alliance, and today he will be debating 25 conservatives. Xander will debate the conservatives one-on-one until they are voted out by their peers and replaced by someone new. Let's get into it.
Chapter 2: What are the claims about grooming and influence on youth?
My first claim is Donald Trump and Elon Musk are grooming more young Americans than the LGBTQ plus community. Can we agree that grooming is bad and should be punished? Um, yeah. Okay, lit.
What I would say is that Donald Trump and Elon Musk use their positions of influence over young Americans to change the way hundreds of thousands of young Americans think and behave throughout elementary, middle, and high schools, which has been documented, studied, and proven to increase bullying and harm, and it infringes on parental consent.
I disagree. Why? I think that what they are trying to do is not grooming but trying to
Let's define grooming. We should start by doing that. I would say that grooming is someone with a position of influence over another person attempting to change their thought patterns or behavior to exploit them. Would you agree? Right.
What I would say is that Donald Trump and Elon Musk are proven to have been doing that with elementary, middle, and high school children by sending targeted ads to youth demographics, accessing their rhetoric on social media, and what studies have shown, studies of tens of thousands of teachers, reported incidents, school reports, hundreds of disciplinary reports,
sent to studies have proven that there's increase in bullying in places where Donald Trump... I think they have a plan.
I think they have a plan.
Well, let me finish this really quickly. It's important to note that there have been thousands of cases of Donald Trump's rhetoric being linked specifically to bullying incidents that have been done by elementary schoolers, middle schoolers, and high schoolers who all said that they felt vindicated in their actions because Donald Trump, the president, told them that it was okay.
And what we're also seeing is that in communities that have a 10-point increase in support for Donald Trump, There's an 8% increase in bullying. And the reason that this is unique is this has never happened in politics before. It hasn't mattered Republican or Democrat.
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Chapter 3: How is gender-affirming care for transgender youth discussed and debated?
Chapter 4: What evidence is presented regarding bullying and rhetoric linked to political figures?
Well, let me finish this really quickly. It's important to note that there have been thousands of cases of Donald Trump's rhetoric being linked specifically to bullying incidents that have been done by elementary schoolers, middle schoolers, and high schoolers who all said that they felt vindicated in their actions because Donald Trump, the president, told them that it was okay.
And what we're also seeing is that in communities that have a 10-point increase in support for Donald Trump, There's an 8% increase in bullying. And the reason that this is unique is this has never happened in politics before. It hasn't mattered Republican or Democrat.
It's specifically Donald Trump and Elon Musk working to change the minds of young Americans, and they're doing it for exploitative gain. Exploitive.
I think that we are tired. We're tired of the left or the LGBT community. We're tired of them trying to influence the children as well.
No one's trying to influence the children, except Donald Trump and Elon Musk.
No, no, no. They're trying to influence the children.
The LGBTQ plus community is not trying to influence children. They're trying to save children's lives.
I disagree.
You can't disagree without facts.
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Chapter 5: What are the arguments around drag queens and LGBTQ+ representation in public spaces?
Chapter 6: How do medical consensus and scientific studies relate to transgender issues and care?
It's horrible.
Republicans do it, right?
Some people whose favorite color is yellow do it, too.
Yes. But my point is, is that for the sake of argument, I would say I agree. But I kind of reject the initial premise because... And even this ties into your previous point, because I think what you're actually trying to say is that the agenda that LGBT activists- There is no agenda. Everyone has an agenda. It doesn't matter.
Will the LGBTQ activists make it sound like there's a coordinated agenda when in reality there's a bunch of people who want equal rights?
Well, if you're an organized group, you have an agenda.
We're not organized. I promise we're disorganized.
Okay. Well, for the sake of argument, let's just say every group has some kind of focus and things they're trying to accomplish, right? That's not exclusive to one party. Sure. But the reason I think what you're trying to say is that LGBT groups aren't the issue. Gun violence, stuff like that is the issue.
Exactly.
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Chapter 7: What are the concerns about LGBTQ+ rights, political movements, and societal impact?
270,000?
Yeah, I don't really care about credentialism. I don't care about credentialism. You don't care about people being educated, and that's a problem.
I'm trying to attack this point ontologically. I'm trying to get you to make a truth claim about trans people. Okay, let's do it. The first thing that trans people could be claiming to, could make a claim about themselves. There's four things. The first thing, and I'm going to go through them really quick, and then you could respond to them.
That their gender doesn't master birth sex, period.
So the first thing.
Yes.
could be a sexual perversion. So that has always existed. Men dressing up like women for a sexual fetish has always existed.
That's not a sexual perversion.
That is a perversion.
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Chapter 8: How do gun violence and healthcare costs compare to LGBTQ+ acceptance in terms of youth harm?
Yeah.
Really?
Okay, agreed. Agreed.
Agreed. That has weird vibes. So let me just finish.
What about Brett Kavanaugh? I don't think those claims were substantiated, but yeah.
What about our vice president?
No, he didn't have sex with a couch. That was obviously fraudulent.
No, no, no. What about the fact that he dressed up as a woman?
That was a Halloween party. So, look, we're getting off topic.
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