Conservative Speaker 11

Okay, well, can I just backtrack? So you initially had said... I'd prefer to start there. All righty. Well, I mean, I have a point I need to address just so you can understand kind of where I'm coming from in the argument.

So you don't drive a car?

Wait, look at how many people die in car accidents every year.

No, but they should also have the right to protect themselves in their own home or in their own community. Children are being shot to death every single day by assault rifles designed by the military. Yes, and how many people have their homes broken into and they don't know how to protect themselves? They don't have the ability to. Tell me the statistic. No, I'm asking you that question.

Wait, wait, you just said their parents have the right to make those kinds of choices.

But isn't your party the one that says if a kid says that they're gay at school, that the teacher shouldn't go and tell the parent? What is my party? Well, the Democratic Party, I'm assuming.

Yeah, so why is it about keeping a parent out of the picture when it fits the case, and then now all of a sudden you think the parents should have that kind of say? I don't understand.

That's essentially what they argue.

When you say all, I already know that's false because nothing is a perfect 100% like that. That already is just, that invalidates everything you're going to tell me with statistics. When you say all, I know that's, maybe you're right.

They're not.

Hi, nice to meet you. Okay, so I want to talk a little bit more about the anti-Christian thing that you were saying. So I know that you said that Jesus, this is what you said, Jesus said that basically we follow the Holy Spirit. Does that mean that we can do whatever we want? No, of course not. What are the rules? Because within Christianity, there are a set of rules. Obviously, we're sinners.

We're not going to follow them. The most important one, I would say, is to love others around you. But there's a lot of other ones that are important as well.

Such as the sinning, like no LGBTQ. That's a rule.

No lust. It does say that a man cannot be with a man.

No, in the New Testament it says that a man and a woman shall be together.

There's lots of things in the Old Testament that don't pertain to today, okay? The New Testament, now you're saying that it was misinterpreted. There's a lot of other things within that same sentence, such as you shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery. Yeah. You shall not, man shall not be with man.

So you're saying the only part within that sentence that was misinterpreted was man should not be with man. What about murder? Is that okay?

Or was that misinterpreted as well and we can do that?

No, what about the 10 commandments? Those are laws. And the word of God says that these commandments are written on the tablets of your hearts.

What about the other law? What about we shall not commit murder?

Because you're disregarding the other laws.

Can I just say something? I think it's great that you're Christian. I don't think, oh, if you're a sinner, you can't be Christian because that's not what the Bible says.

The Bible says come as you are and you can be a Christian, but I don't believe that you're following Christ as you should be.

You may be a Christian, but the thing is that you're hindering your walk with God. You're hindering your relationship First of all, my walk with God is between me and God.

From a Christian perspective, I do want to say that when we speak about LGBTQ, I know that it comes off as hatred, but it comes from a place of caring. Love is an action word.

When we look back from the beginning of time till now, it's going downhill. And what's changing? And people are affirming transgenderism. People are affirming the gay people. So what is changing? That's changing. And as we see that happening, we see less suicide, less depression, less anxiety.

Would you agree that if someone is living in a life that is leading to destruction and we applaud them, do you think that's love? And we accept them and say, this is good. even though we know for a fact that your life is going to lead to destruction. Your life is going to lead to depression. Love is telling the truth even when it's hard to hear.

Hey again.

Alrighty, first I guess I want to say, wouldn't both, I guess from the arguments that I've heard, I could be wrong, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, are they not both propaganda? Kind of like going back to that question where we went to grooming, right? We go to grooming. I think when it came to that argument,

In my opinion, I think where you were getting confused was that you were getting propaganda and grooming. Wasn't confused. That's what I said in my opinion, how I interpreted your responses. Oh, true, true, okay. How I interpreted is that when you were phrasing things, it was in my head, you should have been substituting propaganda. There's nothing inherently wrong with that. Like grooming is...

Forcing a belief upon somebody I believe that's always physical. Yeah, but it's still Involuntary now these kids are being given us Information at a young age and they're just making the choice.

That's a relative term.

Okay, so once again, so I'm gonna go back to propaganda, because I really think that's what this question is about. There are two ways to do that. Propaganda, which again, every, we'll say agenda, as we've established before, I'm not saying that LGBT has an agenda, but it's got a title, therefore it probably has a group that has an agenda.

If it's got a title, clearly you guys agreed on something, right? I think that's fair to say. I'm just, I think everything that would have a title, clearly there's a group.

Are they feminists? I mean, I think everybody does. As somebody else said, everyone has an agenda. You can't say that you don't have an agenda. You're describing people fighting for their human rights. Well, human rights, well, I guess that's a whole other debate in itself. But point being, propaganda can be done in two ways. You can remove certain things or you can heavily promote certain things.

Why do we see in so many shows and movies nowadays that there's usually a gay character or some form of LGBT representation, right? Okay, that's one thing. That's fine.

Only a decade ago did we start seeing that representation. Yet you don't. have a positive conservative character. There are far more conservative people than gay people. So I'm just saying, it's all propaganda. Both sides can do it. Don't say it's not. So I think neither is worse than the other.

I think it's just one side using... Would you agree that book fans are worse than drag queens reading books? No, not at all. I think they're a way that one side... chooses to promote their argument or to sway the other side. What's wrong about where the wild things are? What's wrong about Charlotte's Web? I mean, is it the context?

I mean, because you can read between the lines and things that people say.

Now, none of the parents in the district get to make the child's children... Did a city council have to pass a law that allowed them to ban those books?

Then how did they get banned from the school?

We elect people that we trust to make decisions on our behalf.

But we elected people and gave them the power to choose an independent person to do that. And now... Those people were elected. And now... The majority chose those people to then pick somebody else on their behalf. It's the same with electors and elections. What happened last year? We don't pick the electors, but we pick the people who picked them.

Really, the most important reason why I wanted to come on here is because these discussions are very important. Regardless of what the topic may be, finding a middle ground, meeting with people that you don't agree with is something that we don't do.