Conservative Speaker 19

Okay, you've been voted out by the majority.

So quick question. Do you think people are born gay or trans? Yes. So you think kids are born trans?

Okay, so you would be okay with them getting any type of either brain scans or anything before they go through medical transition then, right? That way, because, you know, 13%, what you stated was 1%, but it's actually 13% of people do detransition. So to avoid that, no, they could bring up, I'll even show the study on my phone to you right now.

So you're just invalidating the entire study.

You're invalidating the entire study. Let me ask you this. Are you okay with this medical transition if they get brain scans before the medical transition?

Okay, so how do you know someone's born trans? Give me the definition. How do you know they're born trans?

Okay.

Okay, so how do you know they're born that way?

So you agree there's no objective way to measure it? It's all subjective, right?

Okay, so what's the objective measurement that someone's born trans?

Okay, so that's an objective way to measure it, in your opinion, correct?

So then we could agree that kids should have this brain skin before they medically transition, correct? Wouldn't that be a good middle ground? I would say that I would... Because you say there's an objective way to measure it, correct?

So they have no control over it, right? Over being trans? Yeah, they have no control over it. Correct. So the detransition rate shouldn't be 13%, right? So the majority of people who detransition... Also, what's the difference between puberty anxiety?

What's the difference between puberty anxiety and someone suffering from gender dysphoria? What's the distinct difference?

So if you care about lives saved, then why do you dismiss the Oxford study of 108,000 patients when their depression, anxiety, substance use, and suicidality increase?

Oh, so you just don't like the study.

It doesn't affirm your belief, though, right?

It's the same thing because it doesn't affirm your belief system.

Okay, so the cast review study's bad, the Swedish study about puberty blockers is bad.

The UK health, the Finland, the Denmark, all their health departments that say puberty blockers aren't safe are all wrong.

You just don't want to believe it because it doesn't affirm your reality. That's the problem.

Here's your perfect middle ground since you don't want to reach the middle ground. Here's the middle ground. If people are born trans and we could see in their brain scans, then you'd be okay with a brain scan before they medically transition.

So you don't want to reach the middle ground of it.

So it's life-saving to stop the natural biology of someone, inject them with synthetic hormones, and then do gender reassignment surgery. That's life-saving to you.

How do they know they're in the wrong body if they haven't even hit puberty where the body is fully developed yet?