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Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
So there's three Artemis missions. The first one's going to, oh, already launched.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Yeah, but it was unmanned. Oh. Second one is scheduled for 2026. Yeah. The third one. April of 2026.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
12 hours?
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Is this similar to what Anduril is doing?
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Maybe it was like a mix.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Like what specifically they were doing? Yeah. It's very convoluted other than, so I have a little bit of info. Can you highlight it on there? What to expect and how to respond. No, it wasn't here.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Well, let me know when you find it.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Oh, okay. Information is also limited.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
The concern over these stations is warranted.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Do I have to make it like Super Bowl? I don't know.
Morning Wire
Plane Collision Revelations & Hamas Hostage Handoff | Afternoon Update | 1.30.25
So, Mr. Kennedy, you want us to confirm you to be in charge of Medicare, but it appears that you don't know the basics of this program. So let's turn to Medicaid. I just explained the basics. No, I had to correct you on several things. Oh, you just added information. Let's turn to Medicaid. You didn't correct me. I didn't get it wrong.
Stuff You Should Know
The Highway of Tears (And Maybe Hope)
Nicely done, John. Thanks, Tia. So, hang on, because it's going to be a fun ride.
Stuff You Should Know
The Highway of Tears (And Maybe Hope)
Nicely done, John. Thanks, Tia. So, hang on, because it's going to be a fun ride.
Surrounded
Jordan Peterson vs 20 Atheists
Brian. So the first thing I would like to say is I would like to engage in this discussion in a symbiotic manner. I would not like to engage where there is one clear winner and one clear loser. Emotions are activated and ultimately comes about ego. So I'm just saying I'm really trying to understand your position and I would just like you to really try to understand my position.
Surrounded
Jordan Peterson vs 20 Atheists
Okay, sounds good. With that, if you're saying that morality and purpose cannot come from science, is the opposite of that true, that morality and purpose can only come from God?
Surrounded
Jordan Peterson vs 20 Atheists
What is the purpose of heaven? Do you understand? So here's the deal.
Surrounded
Jordan Peterson vs 20 Atheists
Okay, and so should we not try to achieve infinite suffering on planet Earth? And if we can achieve infinite suffering on planet Earth without God avoiding it, if we can do that without God, then does that defeat your claim?
Surrounded
Jordan Peterson vs 20 Atheists
When you're talking about morality though, when you really reverse engineer it and you get it down to its root, you're a psychologist, it really seems like it just has to deal with motivation. People are saying there is a God.
Surrounded
Jordan Peterson vs 20 Atheists
Well, so let me ask you this. So if there is a God and there is a moral code and it doesn't come at your benefit, are you going to follow it?
Surrounded
Jordan Peterson vs 20 Atheists
If it's going to come at your expense, would you still follow it? If God came down and said, here is my moral code and you should follow it, but even if you follow it, you are still going to end up in hell, are you going to follow it?
Surrounded
Jordan Peterson vs 20 Atheists
And they did that with the motivation of believing that this omnipotent, all-loving God would somehow turn it into a benefit. So they still did it solely for their benefit.
Surrounded
Jordan Peterson vs 20 Atheists
When you're talking about whims, I think you're talking about something that's more dopamine. When you're talking about morality, you're talking about something that's more serotonin and more ultimately satisfying. So you and I agree on a lot. I mean, when it comes to talking about how men should be masculine and things of that nature, you and I are 100% in agreement.
Surrounded
Jordan Peterson vs 20 Atheists
We just don't agree on the justification that God is the only thing that provides morality.
Surrounded
Jordan Peterson vs 20 Atheists
What's the difference then? between a definition and a justification. I mean, it's ultimately psychologically the same thing.
Surrounded
Jordan Peterson vs 20 Atheists
Okay, well, so here's my position. So I said that God, among other things... I'm actually a non-theist. I'm not an atheist. I believe the human condition is one of uncertainty. And what that means is that I don't believe that you can conclude there is a God with certainty, and I don't believe that you can conclude that there is a God without uncertainty. in the same position.
Surrounded
Jordan Peterson vs 20 Atheists
Now with that, I don't care. I still wake up every day and I have motivation to be a moral person. Define moral. Moral, what I ought to do.
Surrounded
Jordan Peterson vs 20 Atheists
And what I ought to do, ultimately it comes down to what not just benefits me, but what benefits the entire planet, what benefits the entire system. I think that your entire moral perspective comes from linear thinking. And when you look at the reality of the universe, it's actually more so holistic.
Surrounded
Jordan Peterson vs 20 Atheists
So when you look at how Aristotle defined God, when he said that there had to be an unmoved moved or an uncaused cause, he was defining God from a linear perspective. And you do the same with morality and and you do the same with purpose, I reject that.
Surrounded
Jordan Peterson vs 20 Atheists
Because you're saying that there's something that exists in a vacuum, that it exists in and of itself, and nothing in the universe exists in a vacuum. Nothing exists in and of itself. It's a whole systems-based morality. It's a systems-based reality. Is there a hierarchical structure?
Surrounded
Jordan Peterson vs 20 Atheists
Sure. Yeah, like flawless. Yeah. So does a flawless thing change?
Surrounded
1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
Pause, you've been voted out by the majority.
Surrounded
1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
All right, pause. You've been voted out by the majority. Please return to your seat.
Surrounded
1 Sports Analyst vs 25 NBA/NFL Fans (ft. Skip Bayless)
Now, let me ask you this. Let me ask you this.
Surrounded
1 LGBTQ+ Activist vs 25 Conservatives (ft. Zander Moricz)
I think all people in the United States of America are equal and you don't. Let's pause. You've been voted out by the majority. Please return to your seat.
Surrounded
1 LGBTQ+ Activist vs 25 Conservatives (ft. Zander Moricz)
Let's pause. You have been voted out by the majority. Please return to your seat. Thank you.
Surrounded
1 LGBTQ+ Activist vs 25 Conservatives (ft. Zander Moricz)
Maybe there's a lot, but when you say all, that's it. You've been voted out by the majority. Please return to your chair. I appreciate you. Thank you very much.
Surrounded
1 LGBTQ+ Activist vs 25 Conservatives (ft. Zander Moricz)
Let's pause. You've been voted out by the majority.
Surrounded
1 LGBTQ+ Activist vs 25 Conservatives (ft. Zander Moricz)
Regardless of what you're saying, let's pause. You've been voted out by the majority. Please return to your seat.
Surrounded
1 LGBTQ+ Activist vs 25 Conservatives (ft. Zander Moricz)
Okay, let's pause. You've been voted out by the majority. Please return to your chair.
Surrounded
1 LGBTQ+ Activist vs 25 Conservatives (ft. Zander Moricz)
How long? Okay, let's pause there. That's time.
Surrounded
1 LGBTQ+ Activist vs 25 Conservatives (ft. Zander Moricz)
I feel like you're a good person, but that's just wrong.
Table Read
Pablo’s Rhino: A Script So Insane, It Might Be Evidence - Trailer
In this round, so I'm going to have a show of hands. How many of you believe that racism and misogyny played a role in Vice President Harris's defeat? OK. So that's good. You all pass.
Table Read
Pablo’s Rhino: A Script So Insane, It Might Be Evidence - Trailer
We'll begin with the opening statements. Each candidate will have 30 seconds, and we'll start with Dr. Quintessa Hathaway.
Table Read
Pablo’s Rhino: A Script So Insane, It Might Be Evidence - Trailer
Thank you, Dr. Hathaway.
The Dan Bongino Show
Deranged Libs Go All In For Ukraine War and Govt. Corruption (Ep. 2423)
The gentle lady's time has expired.
The Dan Bongino Show
Producer's Picks: Bongino's Best Segments - 01/03/25
Thank you, Congresswoman. Senator Harris.
The Dan Bongino Show
Producer's Picks: Bongino's Best Segments - 01/03/25
Dan, I couldn't have said it better myself, and this is almost 20 years in the FBI. It hurts for me to agree with you on that. I can imagine. But that's the fact, right? That's the reality we have to face.
The Dan Bongino Show
Producer's Picks: Bongino's Best Segments - 01/03/25
And another thing, Director Ray, that I really go hard at him, is if you see him, every time he's questioned by these gentlemen here and others, and when they question their motives, what does he do? He gets mad. He gets angry, right? I'm like... That's your job.
The Dan Bongino Show
Producer's Picks: Bongino's Best Segments - 01/03/25
I led CBP, the largest law enforcement organization in the world, and every time I stood in front of a gentleman like this, that was part of my job to take the incoming, because that's part of their job. The American people elected them to go and challenge people like me and the director to question everything that they do.
The Dan Bongino Show
Producer's Picks: Bongino's Best Segments - 01/03/25
That's their job, and when you have a director like that that gets indignant, how dare you question our motives? No, that's exactly what we should be doing in this country. And like you said, there's a lot of reasons and examples why Americans distrust the FBI right now. And I'll go back. I'll go back to the lack of transparency. I'll go back to Uvalde, too.
The Dan Bongino Show
Producer's Picks: Bongino's Best Segments - 01/03/25
Again, Governor Abbott, it was within a week after the shooting. What did they do at that press conference? They went through a detailed timeline of the shooter, a detailed. Folks, I'm telling you right now, we have that with the assassination attempt from President Trump. They have that detailed outline.
The Dan Bongino Show
Producer's Picks: Bongino's Best Segments - 01/03/25
They could get up there and hold a press conference and go through, and I think they could address some of these questions about a second shooter or this or that, all these conspiracies, because they're not being honest and transparent with the American people. Therefore, everybody and all the conspiracy theories are filling the void with stuff when they could address it right now.
The MeidasTouch Podcast
Fatigued Trump Caves in Disaster Press Conference
When you first announced this idea, critics said it would be prohibitively expensive, potentially ineffective and could trigger an arms race in space. What do you say to those critics about that?
The MeidasTouch Podcast
Fatigued Trump Caves in Disaster Press Conference
You campaigned on lowering the price of groceries. How do you justify cutting food assistance in this bill?
The MeidasTouch Podcast
Panicked Trump Screws Himself as Term Collapses
We'll go ahead and move on to our second poll question. And that question is, do you approve of the Department of Government Efficiency's mission to streamline the federal government and reduce spending? Again, this question is regarding DOGE. Do you approve of the Department of Government Efficiency's mission to streamline the federal government and reduce spending?
The MeidasTouch Podcast
Panicked Trump Screws Himself as Term Collapses
Press 1 for yes and press 2 for no. Again, that's one for yes and two for no. Our results are coming in and it's at 70% for no and 30% for yes. That's 70% for no and 30% for yes for the approval of Doja's mission to streamline the federal government and reduce spending.
The MeidasTouch Podcast
MeidasTouch Full Podcast - 3/14/25
How many people have you got watching the Trump gold card so far, Howard? How many people?
The MeidasTouch Podcast
MeidasTouch Full Podcast - 3/14/25
most importantly and so the president will continue to effectively utilize tariffs while again driving down the cost of living in this country both things can happen at the same time just look at president trump's first term as an example when he left office inflation was a low 1.4 percent you know it just reminds me of when i was in high school there was a club called met bunk the metropolitan mock united nations club
The MeidasTouch Podcast
MeidasTouch Full Podcast - 3/14/25
What do you want to say about the tariff fight?
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
On a scale of one to ten, what's your guys' anxiety level right now?
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
Going into the experience, did you guys discuss any rules or boundaries in terms of how you guys planned on? You didn't know? None?
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
What do you mean? How'd you ask it? Or you're like, can we?
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
Yeah, I guess it was less about, because you're right, because who knows? I mean, sex, who knows? For certain couples, it might not mean anything. It was more like, I was just surprised, not only just you guys, but just all the couples. It seemed like not a lot of couples had a conversation about how can we make sure the other person feels respected
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
in this process, because it definitely doesn't feel like you guys had that conversation about how do we make the other person feel respected in this process, given that regardless if it's sex or making out or, because if we're thinking about the sex, what we watched felt like a lot of disrespect in both directions between the two of you.
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
And I think that was the most shocking thing for me to watch as a viewer, Where it was like, all these couples kind of fucking hate each other. Because like, for a concept of like, you know, a premise of, and again, I appreciate the context you guys offer that maybe you guys weren't as rock solid as we were led to believe going in.
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
But yeah, it was just more like the lack of respect, you know, regardless of what your guys' individual boundaries or comfort levels with sex or dating or whatever. It just, I was shocked by JR's ability to act like he owns you in front of Nick. Yeah. And where that confidence level came from and your seeming support of that behavior around Nick.
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
Did you have to convince her to do it? No.
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
How have you been handling? How's our heart? Yeah. How is your heart? Yeah. Thank you, Sandy. She's trying to get brownie points before we really get started.
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
What's it have to, what do you mean by that?
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
We haven't really asked that a ton lately. But how is your heart?
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
Well, you're the first one here.
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
Well, obviously. I'm just saying, and I don't think if we asked JR if he literally thought you were his wife, it was just more his attitude.
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
In terms of what he thought his place was.
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
Again, I just kind of go back to, I imagine, what if Natalie and I did an experiment like this, where it's just like... Listen, I think the show is fascinating. I love how they're... Why I love this show so much is most shows are exploring individuals pursuing love as opposed to people in your shoes who examine... you know, relationships very much like your guys's are.
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
I mean, your guys's relationship seems to be like this poster board toxic relationship. And I even almost mean that in like in a compliment, like we've all been part of these relationships. Watching you guys is like a, a window into like my past life.
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
And like, I think anyone who's watching this, if you, if you look at not just your guys's relationship, but a lot of these relationships, I mean, it's very easy to see if you're honest with yourself that,
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
moments of your own vulnerability in these relationships but it's more like again i can't to me it comes comes down to like a respect in terms of i could lean into experiment but you know this is still my girlfriend going in and for someone to jump in and assume a role either and i i would believe either because jr does seem a bit delusional but either he's he's just assuming that's his role or he is he feels like he's gotten permission to play that role
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
So I'm curious, I want to describe to you my perception of your guys' relationship based off the show we watched. And I'm curious what parts of it you think are accurate.
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
This is my perception of your relationship. The show portrays you guys as if throughout the season, it's like you're constantly giving Nick notes on how he's supposed to do this and how he's supposed to do this.
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
And Nick is constantly apologizing to you for what feels like some things may be valid, some things it's just like, it almost felt like Nick was apologizing because he's like, I think I'm just supposed to apologize. I don't fucking know. But I love this girl. And that's kind of how, that's the vibe that the show portrays you guys in.
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
So you just flat out ignoring her? He couldn't... No, I wouldn't say ignoring.
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
Because, like, I can be very aloof and I can be very distant. And now that I can be on a couch, now I can be like, Nick, Nick, Nick. And, like, I don't hear her.
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
When did you guys film the reunion?
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
Bro. But then there's like we know couples where like some people literally like are ignore their partners and and are checking out like.
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
And that was the last time you guys saw each other in person?
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
But did you think you'd survive the show?
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
On a scale of one to 10, are you nervous to do this?
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
I think that's where it comes down to. I guess my question for you is... Well, it was really important to me.
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
In your next relationship, there will... I mean, Natalie is a bit younger than me, right? And so when we got together, we obviously... got together because there was a physical attraction and then we were compatible, we enjoyed hanging out. When we finally were like, let's do this and date, there was an acknowledgement of our age difference.
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
There was an acknowledgement of ways in which maybe we're not as compatible as we wanted to be. And then there was like a willingness, at least a recognition on both of our parts, but at least I'll just speak for me,
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
is a guy who is like, I'm about to date someone who is gonna want to and has the right to want to do things I've already done, is gonna wanna go to places I may not wanna go or that I've already been. And I can't just not show up and I can't just say, go do that, I don't feel like doing it. If I wanna be with this person,
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
I have to meet her where she is, and she's going to have to meet me where I'm at. And I'm just curious, as you look back on your relationship with Sandy, what changes have you made in that department? Because your next girl, are you still dating that girl, whoever you were dating at the beginning? I'm sure that at some point she's going to want to do something you don't want to do.
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
I'm just talking about when you're not. Because as compatible as Natalie and I are, there's always going to be moments where we're disconnected or she wants to do something where I don't want to do. And it's easy to make a relationship work when you guys agree. Yeah. Right. Like it's when, it's when a couple doesn't agree and that happens for any couple.
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
I don't care how compatible or how connected you are. At some point there's moments of disconnection and how you work through that is kind of what, how any relationship makes it or breaks it.
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
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E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
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E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
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E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
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E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
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E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
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The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
I would have been, I would have pushed back a little bit more.
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
Yeah, it was more like you seemed way too okay with him.
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
How do you see JR after watching it back?
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
nobody sees it because it's that's not how he that's not what he leads with obviously and even i mean honestly even if i did see that i don't honestly like i don't have much patience for the guy or whoever but maybe i'm more critical of men in that department but like i don't care about the guy who can owe it up to the girl he's trying not you know to hook up with or you know and be soft or whatever uh and then be an asshole to everyone else you know like that doesn't
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
No, no, I'm not asking you. I'm just curious if you see him differently. And were you surprised by things you watched back?
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
certainly went out with a bang you know where is that what is both of yours one biggest regret in terms of your conduct on the show without blaming editing without like just like something that you watched back and you were like did not love that i did that i wish i would have done that differently i can only pick one You can pick multiple, but I'd love to. I'm like, there's lots.
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
I think that's the disconnect is like you clearly didn't handle it well, but I don't know if anyone would in that position.
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
I mean, that makes a lot of sense. If you were that, if you were that absent leading up to your relationship, like if you were, I mean, like, were you giving like, I'm an artist, I need to paint all night and I can't talk. Like,
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
I don't doubt that. But again, like again, if you're just like it's yeah, running away from having all these very rigid like I can I'm available. I'm not available. I'm available. I'm not available. Was it like that?
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
Why did you stay in that relationship? It was so hard.
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
We have a lot of questions, a lot of things we want to cover, but I am curious, you know, before we like lay in or just be like, why the fuck did you guys do this? I'm just curious off the bat if it was more like, I definitely did not love how I handled myself that way.
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
You felt uncomfortable maybe with the environment she was in or something?
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
And not to diminish that, because obviously that substance is of any kind, but are we talking like you got drunk and text too much? Or did you say something like you really should have fucking said? You know what I'm saying? I guess that's the... You guys keep referencing you drank, and we get it. You medicated, just going through a hard time. You weren't your best self when you were drunk.
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
When Nick was talking about the difference in lifestyles and the going out, are you single now? Yeah. Yeah, I guess I'm curious what you think about what he was saying in terms of just the different lifestyles or where you guys were in your life.
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
And I guess more now, are you more in your single era because now you want to go out more and maybe that kind of going out lifestyle is more conducive to being single? Or is it more like you want to find someone who also wants to go out?
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
Like I just... Yeah, no, I love that too.
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
How do you draw the line between being an extrovert and loving the social aspect, going out, hanging with your girls versus also being like, I'm in a relationship and like there's going out and there's like being respectful.
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
But didn't that bother you that he was planning it up for the camera?
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
Well, I mean, when it comes to doing reality TV, if you go into experience using any substances, a coping mechanism, chances are that will only increase, not decrease, because those spaces, they don't have support systems. It's all about putting you on an emotional island and seeing how you react. You know, that's kind of what all these experiments are. So there is that. What about you? Yeah.
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
You know, it was clear that he wanted people to think that and he wanted people to think that he had a big old, you know, He was peacocking the whole time. Nick, I'm curious. Final question. I know we have to wrap up. What did you learn from that tattoo?
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
To keep getting more tattoos. All jokes aside, that's a wild story. It is wild.
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
I don't believe everything happens for a reason. I think shit happens. And I think we're either willing to learn from it or we're not.
The Viall Files
E860 Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum
So what did you learn from that? Because I hope you learned something.
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Maybe the lesson is don't get a generic saying.
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You know who else has that tattoo? Nobody.
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He got the same tattoo as his arch rival on accident. You know? I'm just saying.
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Well, I'm glad you're here, man.
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I mean, just sitting on this couch together. Props to both of you. Yeah.
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Well, thank you guys for coming. I appreciate it. I wish you both nothing but the best. I really do. It's been fun getting to know the people and it was very fun to watch.
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Your backs are a gift that just keeps on coming.
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You guys did carry the season. There is that thank you guys for listening happy holidays happy holidays guys bye
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It did seem like you lack the appropriate amount of empathy.
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I mean, are you able to elaborate, Nick? Just because, to be honest, I felt like, I don't know were you protected by the edit or not, but watching it back, I mean, as a viewer, it was like, why is Nick apologizing constantly to this woman? And why is, for what appeared to be no reason.
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I'm watching it and being like, I consider myself to be pretty chill and not jealous and I'm very emotionally regulated. But if like my girlfriend was, you know, living above me with another dude, and again, I'd love your commentary, but it seemingly looked like you were being dismissed constantly. I don't know how I would handle it if my girlfriend was telling me to fuck off.
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How did you guys end up on the show? Because that's another thing that was hard to watch. Because there was a lot of you being like, you brought me here.