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Brian. So the first thing I would like to say is I would like to engage in this discussion in a symbiotic manner. I would not like to engage where there is one clear winner and one clear loser. Emotions are activated and ultimately comes about ego. So I'm just saying I'm really trying to understand your position and I would just like you to really try to understand my position.

Brian. So the first thing I would like to say is I would like to engage in this discussion in a symbiotic manner. I would not like to engage where there is one clear winner and one clear loser. Emotions are activated and ultimately comes about ego. So I'm just saying I'm really trying to understand your position and I would just like you to really try to understand my position.

Brian. So the first thing I would like to say is I would like to engage in this discussion in a symbiotic manner. I would not like to engage where there is one clear winner and one clear loser. Emotions are activated and ultimately comes about ego. So I'm just saying I'm really trying to understand your position and I would just like you to really try to understand my position.

Okay, sounds good. With that, if you're saying that morality and purpose cannot come from science, is the opposite of that true, that morality and purpose can only come from God?

Okay, sounds good. With that, if you're saying that morality and purpose cannot come from science, is the opposite of that true, that morality and purpose can only come from God?

Okay, sounds good. With that, if you're saying that morality and purpose cannot come from science, is the opposite of that true, that morality and purpose can only come from God?

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay, if there is a God, what is the purpose of life?

Okay, if there is a God, what is the purpose of life?

Okay, if there is a God, what is the purpose of life?

So you're trying to make it to heaven and avoid hell?

So you're trying to make it to heaven and avoid hell?

So you're trying to make it to heaven and avoid hell?

What is the purpose of heaven? Do you understand? So here's the deal.

What is the purpose of heaven? Do you understand? So here's the deal.

What is the purpose of heaven? Do you understand? So here's the deal.

Okay, and so should we not try to achieve infinite suffering on planet Earth? And if we can achieve infinite suffering on planet Earth without God avoiding it, if we can do that without God, then does that defeat your claim?

Okay, and so should we not try to achieve infinite suffering on planet Earth? And if we can achieve infinite suffering on planet Earth without God avoiding it, if we can do that without God, then does that defeat your claim?