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Something Was Wrong

S23 Ep11: The Moment That Everything Changed

17 Apr 2025

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*Content warning: descriptions of medical trauma, death, infant loss, birthing trauma, medical trauma, medical neglect, mature and stressful themes.  *Free + Confidential Resources + Safety Tips: somethingwaswrong.com/resources    Moms Advocating For Moms S23 survivors Markeda, Kristen and Amanda have created a nonprofit, Moms Advocating for Moms, in hopes to create a future where maternal well-being is prioritized, disparities are addressed, and every mother has the resources and support she needs to thrive: https://www.momsadvocatingformoms.org/take-action https://linktr.ee/momsadvocatingformoms  Please sign the survivors petitions below to improve midwifery education and regulation in Texas https://www.change.org/p/improve-midwifery-education-and-regulation-in-texas?recruiter=1336781649&recruited_by_id=74bf3b50-fd98-11ee-9e3f-a55a14340b5a&utm_source=share_petition&utm_campaign=share_for_starters_page&utm_medium=copylink  Malik's Law  https://capitol.texas.gov/BillLookup/History.aspx?LegSess=89R&Bill=HB4553  M.A.M.A. has helped file a Texas bill called Malik's Law, which is intended to implement requirements for midwives in Texas to report birth outcomes in hopes of improving transparency and data collection in the midwifery field in partnership with Senator Claudia Ordaz.  *Sources: American College of Nurse Midwives https://midwife.org/  American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG) https://www.acog.org/   Birth Settings in America: Outcomes, Quality, Access, and Choice, Maternal and Newborn Care in the United States https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK555484/#:~:text=Federal%20law%20requires%20that%20most%20insurance%20companies,if%20they%20and%20their%20babies%20are%20healthy.&text=Midwives7%20provide%20care%20throughout%20the%20prenatal%20period%20for%20families%20planning%20a%20home%20birth.  Cooling Therapy Treatment for HIE https://birthinjurycenter.org/hypoxic-ischemic-encephalopathy-hie/cooling-treatment-for-hie/#:~:text=Clinical%20trials%20have%20shown%20that,of%20death%20or%20brain%20damage.  March of Dimes https://www.marchofdimes.org/peristats/about-us     National Midwifery Institute https://www.nationalmidwiferyinstitute.com/midwifery    North American Registry of Midwives (NARM) https://narm.org/     Postpartum Hemorrhage https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/22228-postpartum-hemorrhage  Raynaud's disease https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/raynauds-disease/symptoms-causes/syc-20363571  State investigating Dallas birth center and midwives, following multiple complaints from patients https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/local/investigates/state-investigating-dallas-birth-center-midwives-following-multiple-complaints-from-patients/287-ea77eb18-c637-44d4-aaa2-fe8fd7a2fcef     Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation (TDLR) https://www.tdlr.texas.gov/     Zucker School of Medicine, Amos Grunebaum, MD https://faculty.medicine.hofstra.edu/13732-amos-grunebaum/publications    *SWW S23 Theme Song & Artwork:  Thank you so much to Emily Wolfe for covering Glad Rag’s original song, U Think U for us this season! Hear more from Emily Wolfe: On Spotify On Apple Music https://www.emilywolfemusic.com/ instagram.com/emilywolfemusic Glad Rags: https://www.gladragsmusic.com/  The S23 cover art is by the Amazing Sara Stewart Follow Something Was Wrong: Website: somethingwaswrong.com  IG: instagram.com/somethingwaswrongpodcast TikTok: tiktok.com/@somethingwaswrongpodcast  Follow Tiffany Reese: Website: tiffanyreese.me  IG: instagram.com/lookieboo

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0.329 - 10.703 Tiffany Reese

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31.528 - 50.32 Tiffany Reese

Something Was Wrong is intended for mature audiences. This season contains discussions of medical negligence, birth trauma, and infant loss, which may be upsetting for some listeners. For a full content warning, sources, and resources, please visit the episode notes.

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51.36 - 76.971 Tiffany Reese

Opinions shared by the guests of the show are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of myself, Broken Cycle Media, and Wondery. The podcast and any linked materials should not be misconstrued as a substitution for legal or medical advice. Origins Birth and Wellness owners and midwives Caitlin Wages and Gina Thompson have not responded to our requests for comment.

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92.155 - 92.276 Tiffany Reese

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130.103 - 155.11 Kristen

My baby was born at 10 o'clock that morning. With the history of what was going on, they called in some NICU personnel. They did care for him after he was born. He was not breathing. I was terrified. Then also it's like starting up this new massive amount of fear of like what's ahead of us. My OB, she was the delivery OB and then she was the one that followed up on me until I was discharged.

155.757 - 183.858 Kristen

I thought she was good during delivery. I had no concerns. I actually felt quite comfortable and safe with her there when I was being discharged from the hospital. My OB came in with my discharge paperwork to go over it. I wanted to know where I was in terms of the spectrum of severity because I feel pretty torn up. She looked at me and she said, you did push for two and a half hours.

183.938 - 202.038 Kristen

That's kind of the max that we'll let people go to. I mean, you're pretty bad. I was like, yeah, kind of rolling my eyes. Plus the six hours I pushed at the birth center. She looked at me and she said, what do you mean you pushed at the birth center? And I said, I thought that was why my cervix was so swollen. Obviously, she wasn't given this information by Origins. She was shocked.

202.499 - 221.635 Kristen

She said, you're not supposed to push until you're fully dilated, 10 centimeters. You weren't fully dilated when you got here. So why were you pushing? She said, do you know what could have happened? You could have torn your cervix. And I later found out that if you tear a cervix, you can hemorrhage and bleed out. I lost it.

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