Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Dumbest Counterfeiting Scheme in U.S. History
Mon, 24 Mar 2025
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Chapter 1: What was the dumbest counterfeiting scheme?
These counterfeit 20s were the Secret Service called him very low quality and he gets pulled over by Bethany, Oklahoma police. So this dumbass bonded himself out with counterfeit money.
He just bonded out on a minor charge and got himself a major charge.
The next day, the Secret Service leaves a card at his house and it says you need to contact me immediately. And bring your friend Kyle. I guess they knew that I was with them. We all got together and we didn't know what to do. And I got the idea for, I don't know why, but I said, let's go down to six flags.
They'll never know what counterfeit money is. You give them a 20 for a $2 item, you get $18 back. Right. Right.
We started noticing security following us around. We got in line for a roller coaster called the Shockwave. I got this new tattoo I'm proud of. You know the Shocker? Y'all don't know what the Shocker is? Where's Jake now? Jake's doing good. Jake-ing it up. Catching a case. He had a federal, state, local task force for him for drugs, okay? So, what happened? What did he end up getting?
Got murdered in the second degree. He got 25 years.
You started this off saying he was doing fine.
hey this is matt cox and i am here with kyle and we are going to be talking about his true crime story and all right check out the video i can't believe i'm here i've seen you on tv seen you on the commercials what am i doing here how did i get here man i mean you drove your motorcycle across how many states
Four or five. Yeah, it was a nice ride. You don't look so bad. You came in, you said, I have raccoon eyes or something. You look all right now. Thank you, Matt. When you first took your glasses off, I was like, oh, wow.
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Chapter 2: How did counterfeit money lead to major charges?
what look i mean let's let's start at the because your story really it's it's it's not like you it's not like a drug like just like a drug story like it spans all the all these different things have happened that you've been on the peripheral of you know what i mean right and then sometimes in the middle of but but have managed to not be gotten tied up in them but
Um, so let's start at the, you know, at the kind of the, I was going to say the crux of the problem, but at the beginning, which is, you know, so, you know, like where were you born and I, and you know, what does your dad do and what is your uncle do? Okay.
Okay. Life story here. Yeah. Yeah. I was born under a bad moon. Zanesville, Ohio, 1969. What's up? Uh, two, two parent home, uh, very stable one older brother very conservative very middle class very protestant um well provided for though my mom is from the panhandle of texas a small town girl very the nicest the gentlest easiest to like person i've met she's always been there for me
My dad comes from Dallas, and he was a provider, a great provider. You know, classic old school dad took care of us. My dad was really strict. I mean, he wore the pants in the family. My dad got a scholarship, played major college football, was a Marine, and then became an FBI agent. What did he focus on? Sports. Oh, in the FBI? In the FBI, yeah.
Well, my dad was a man that revealed very little about himself and even less about his job. But when we were in Ohio where I was born, he was just a resident agency. So, I think they just covered everything. Whatever came in the door, right. Could be bank robbery, could be drugs, could be... I know that he used to... It's not like he was on a task force. No. Okay. He used to...
He used to be out of town for two or three days investigating the theft of cars that cross the state lines. But other than that, I don't know. A funny story my mom told me about was there was a drive-in movie and they were showing a movie called Flesh Gordon.
and there was an x-rated version and then there was kind of like a soft core version so dad had to go check out the movie to make sure they were playing the soft core version and he took my mom on this undercover stakeout but uh growing up sports were a big deal my brother playing little league sports high school sports my brother played college baseball i stuck with basketball
through high school um but watching sports was a big deal that's when my dad kind of was didn't seem so frustrated and mad and you know we were big fans of the dallas cowboys of uh i don't know uh did you get into trouble when you were a kid or first time i got in trouble i was five years old matt um there was a kid that that my mom agreed to watch. It was her friend who played tennis with her.
And I didn't know the kid, I was five. I was a little bitty shit, you know, you're five. But in my house, there's a lot of rules. It was real strict. You follow my dad's rules. And you know, it was kind of like the guest was always right. But this kid had just lost his father and his mom was out on a date. That's why he was with us. So I don't think he was in a good place.
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Chapter 3: What happened at Six Flags with counterfeit money?
charismatic kid you know alpha he you know when you're around jake you felt like you were you were the show you weren't watching the show you were the shit you know um um like jake when we were in elementary school he would be like the the school fight promoter and he would get started a fight, but then he would arrange a decoy fight on the other side of the schoolyard.
So the real fight could last longer. Um, and he, they were always talking about sex girls. You know, I didn't even know what that was, but, um, when, when we were like in the fifth grades or he was in the sixth grade and he had a fifth grade girlfriend, he wanted to have sex with this girl. Um, So he devised a plan that got, and he got her friends using peer pressure.
He got with him and said, man, I know you go, our girls are all virgins, but I want to get, get with this girl and talk like you're not to get her to have sex with them, which she didn't fall for, but Jake was real manipulated. Um, so. First time, first time I ever smoked pot, I was offered drugs was the sixth grade. And this kid down the street, it wasn't Jake.
He's like, hey, you want to try something? And. I was like, okay, and he went into his dad's bathroom, pulled out a little baggie of this green fluffy substance, and we rolled up a joint, and I mean, it sucked. We couldn't even smoke it, but it seemed like anytime anyone offered me anything, I was like, okay, you know, and there was this feeling at home based on...
the relationship with my dad that things weren't right, you know? It never felt right at home. It felt more... I felt more like when we snuck out at night, like the night accepted you. You could be who you were. You didn't have to have this mask, you know? And it seemed like that was a pattern with people, you know? The people that were... A little dark, I guess you would say. Right.
I would feel more comfortable around. I mean, I think that's common when people look back at their life. But the first time I ever smoked pot for real. I met with Jake. Jake was a year younger than me. So, we had this house in our neighborhood. It was called the Round House. It was kind of an anomaly. It had a Spanish tile and it was a round house like Adobe and all other houses weren't like that.
It was just old ranch houses, suburban ranch houses but I met Jake at the Round House. That was our meeting spot halfway between our houses and he's...
we're headed to baseball practice and he's acting kind of funny kind of goofy and his eyes are kind of red and i'm like what's wrong with you dude and he's like man me and my older brother corby and these kids that moved into the neighborhood um these two brothers we smoked pot i'm high and i'm like no you're not you know i didn't believe him so we got to baseball practice and um
We're warming up, you know, you're playing catch. Coach is right there. And Jake fakes like a high fly to me. I look up and he drills me right in the gut, you know, with the ball. And I'm like, oh! And he's on the ground laughing. So I believe, you know, he was, I believed him there. So the next day, we all met in the ditch. And the ditch is like...
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Chapter 4: How did the Secret Service get involved?
i'm not sure i mean i know it yeah i got conjures because i think he had a family man i really i don't want to go into his life anyway yeah yeah so i hope y'all can edit that part you gotta stop worrying don't worry about it it's fine just just um so what so
So anyway, he got out. So it was devastating.
Right. You know, I remember the radio played from the trial and you heard a shriek in the courtroom when they announced the sentence. And that was their sister, you know, freaking out. And Jake, you know, I...
felt like he was a pariah you know a lot of his friends parents told him don't hang around this guy you know he's bad news and my family always never did that to me right they were they were friends with i mean we were all tight and they didn't judge but um It sucked. I mean, it's sad that that happened. I think that happened because a guy was really high in a state of psychosis induced by drugs.
In his trial, it says he admitted that he doesn't remember anything until he hearing a gunshot and looking down and it was in his hand. So... crazy! Kids don't do drugs, man!
So... so I mean... so what happened after that? I mean he is... you know, are you did... you know, are they still in the same... you're still hanging out with him? You're still... Same...
You know, we ran in different groups. Jake's a center of attention guy in junior high. Do you remember a bullshit popularity contest? We called it spirit royalty. He was always voted one of the top three. I didn't really consider him this way, but girls would say he's a super good looking guy. Right. Confidence, you know.
By the time high school came around, I think he'd gotten kind of a bad reputation. But we... We would see each other, and sometimes we were friends, but I didn't hang out in the same groups as him. When me and Jake hung out alone, I felt like we could be ourselves.
But it seemed like when we were around groups, that's when he tried to be the badass, you know, and starting fights with people and all that. And that was not my scene at all at that time. But through high school... Uh, you know, Jake played football and he was a real good football player and his sophomore year he was on the JV team and he, he scored like seven of the touchdowns at their team.
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Chapter 5: What was the outcome of the court proceedings?
Buy them for six dollars a pill. Sell them for twenty five bucks a pill. And this is at the time fashion to set the scene. It's remember the kind of the zoot suits? Uh, like your bow and Kazi and Z Cavaricci there. That was our crew. We all had Z Cavaricci with their baggy pants and they were filled up with pills and we were only 20 years old. We weren't even old enough to get into the club.
Right. But. Bartender, give him a couple. I mean, we were kind of like the draw, you know, free drinks. It was living that high life. And so that went on. And, you know, eventually, I mean, I remember the girl that we were living at, you know, when we moved in there, I was like, man, are you sure it's OK for me to stay with her? You know, and he's like, oh, she don't mind.
You know, it was a one bedroom apartment and. i i don't it was too much you know and but i remember that she had told me that her her mother was dating her friends with the guy that worked for the sheriff and even back then you know girls talk our business was being told to authorities or whatever right and um but
You know, we were driving from between Oklahoma City and Houston like once, twice a week, you know, and then eventually we were living in hotels and it was just crazy. I mean, it's a lot of work doing that, you know? Right. And... How long did this go on? It went on my summer vacation, basically, but we eventually moved into an apartment.
and it was a real high tone, a nice apartment, had two bedrooms, had a hot tub in one of the bedrooms and it was like less than a mile from the subdivision. We grew up in the far northwest side of Oklahoma City but...
um our landlord was this finance guy that'd been barred for doing some shady deals or something right he sat in the leasing office taking bets he worked for a big bookie all day but we would pay our rent with pills or later eight balls you know it's kind of kind of weird but you know it was club life all that it's Kind of like a 16-year-old wet dream, you know? Right.
Girls, money, Jake and Aldo bought matching ZX-10 Ninja, you know, motorcycles. They might as well have said, I am a drug dealer tattooed on their foreheads, you know? I remember Jake used to Western Union money. to Houston to make deals. How am I? You can't do that. You're leaving a trip. You know, he's like, Oh, fuck it. If they if they don't catch it with me on me, they can't, you know, do so.
Yeah, that's not true.
But I hear you. And you're a kid, right? Yeah.
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Chapter 6: How did family influence the counterfeiting experience?
You know that show, The World's Stupidest Criminals, and we watch it. And in hindsight, you know, you can laugh at people, but when you get caught up and you're not thinking straight, you know, that's all I can say. Right. Sorry. But... So, we all... Not only does the... Steve decided to go with us. He gets his business partner, which they own a body shop, this guy named Roger.
And Steve's wife decides to come with us. And they have three kids. And this mission that's doomed to fail from the start. I mean, even if we got away with it, they already had these serial numbers. And, you know, it was...
to the cops it had to be be comical but uh so we drive all drive the six flags this awesome crew of criminals which six flags one in arlington texas dallas area so i guess subconsciously i was getting closer to home one way or the other but um So, we get a hotel room that night and next morning, off we go and I'm the most proactive one there. I mean, we all had $2,000 to spend.
There's five of us, that's 10 grand but I'm doing it, man. I'm buying shit, you know? So, are you supposed to be trying to get change or just spend it?
I'm buying like a little keychain or a trinket. Okay, so you give them a 20 for a $2 item, you get $18 back. Right. And I'm doing it, man. I'm there to do it.
And there's a basketball hoop game where you shoot to get stuffed animals. Well, I did that one a couple times because I always played basketball. I thought it was pretty good. And those games are rigged, by the way. But I didn't win the prize. And that guy... Picked it up. The counterfeit? Yeah. And we started noticing security following us around. And this is another kind of funny thing.
I was wearing my favorite shirt, which kind of explains my attitude and what I was doing there at that time. It was Sid Vicious. The bassist, the late bassist for the punk rock band, the Sex Pistols. And on the front it said... Undermine their pompous authority, reject their moral standards, make anarchy and chaos your trademarks, blah, blah, blah. Okay?
And it all had on the big black in the back, it read SID, S-I-D. So I can imagine the security people talking, yeah, it's SID, you know. I'm like wearing a jersey identifying myself. But we got in line for a roller coaster called the Shockwave. And... You know, you wait in line. It's kind of like, you know, you kind of forget what's going on.
But there was a guy in front of us as we're waiting in line for about an hour. And he's kind of looking at us funny. And we get on and we ride the roller coaster. And we pull up to the little boarding station. And the guy that had been sitting in front of us in line all the time was like undercover Six Flags security. And he's got two local cops and they...
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Chapter 7: What lessons were learned from the counterfeiting experience?
Um, so, so what happened? Like, what did you end up, did you end up, did you get bonded out? I mean, did you?
Oh, so they, they take us to this funny story. They take us to the match, the Fort Worth federal courthouse. Right. I had my Sid Vicious shirt on. It said undermine their promises, blah, blah, blah. And I think one of the jailers said, you don't want to be wearing that shirt. And, um,
so i i borrowed a shirt from roger and it was a tequila a worm with the tequila tequila bottle and a worm or something like that but um the the funny thing about that is you know they took us into that holding cell and it reminded me of these old cells that when i used to go visit my dad in ohio you know them them official looking federal courthouse with granite type walls or floors and um
But they called me in to sit down with the clerk and she's asking me all these questions. I guess it's a... uh, pretrial report or something like that, a bond report. And she's asking me, well, what, who you will be living with? What are the occupations of who you'll be living with? And I tell him about my dad, you know, what he does.
And she's like, wow, I don't hear that too often, you know, but then Jake goes in there and does the same. And Jake tells me that as he's sitting in his clerk's office, the magistrate leans his head into the door and says, um, what do you think, Stacy? What are our counterfeiters going to be flight risk?
And she's like, well, this one here, his father runs all the prisons in Oklahoma and his buddy in the cell, his dad's an FBI agent. So I think we're pretty safe with these two. But, um, I remember the cell... My dad called me into one of them rooms where you talk to your lawyer. Yeah. And that's when he's letting me... Like, what the... What were you doing? Blah, blah.
You know, I'm like... Whatever. Getting defensive. But I think he told him to leave me in that room because you couldn't... You can't open the door. Yeah. And that's when I felt... The whole thing of being locked up kicked me and I'm like, oh shit. It's going to be a lot of locked doors in the future. The whole thing, Matt, is...
I was more worried about facing my dad than... I mean, I don't know if that's respect or fear or a combination of both. But I remember in the cell, there was this old-looking white convict dude. And then there was this Nigerian dude. They arrested him for being at the airport, and he had like $10,000 cash he was taking out of the country.
And I didn't know that was a crime, you know, but I found out it was. But Jake's rapping easy lyrics loud so everyone can hear. And I don't know, I thought that was surreal. But they pull us into the courtroom and the magistrate lets us all out on a PR bond.
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