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Betrayal: Season 4

Betrayal Weekly: BONUS EP 3 - Andrea Dunlop in Conversation

Thu, 27 Mar 2025

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In this special crossover episode, author and podcast host Andrea Dunlop sits down with Andrea Gunning for a deep dive into the true crime genre. It’s an unflinching conversation about the responsibility of telling real people’s stories, the limits of media, and what it’s like reporting on a story that hits close to home.   Check out There and Gone: South Street, Andrea Gunning’s investigation into the 20-year disappearance of Richard Petrone and Danielle Imbo.  You can find Andrea Dunlop’s podcast, Nobody Should Believe Me, on all platforms. Her first nonfiction book, The Mother Next Door, is available now.   If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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What is the focus of Andrea Dunlop's true crime podcast?

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No, this is my first nonfiction book. The other four are novels. And it's very funny because people are always like with the book or with the show, they're like, oh, my God, I love your show. I mean, not because like, you know, I know it's like it's like they're trying to tell me like, oh, not because I love child abuse. I'm like, no, I know. I understand what you're saying. And it's like, right.

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2891.992 - 2913.128 Andrea Dunlop

Of course, like, I want people to be engaged with the storytelling. I want them to connect to that. They're not going to care about it unless they are connecting to the story and unless they are staying engaged with the story, right? And, like, obviously, we take it really seriously. Obviously, we do the utmost to tell things ethically. But, like, you also have to have a good story.

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Yeah, for sure. Well... This was amazing.

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2917.874 - 2939.68 Andrea Gunning

We just got like straight in the deep end, which I love. I could talk to you for hours. Andrea, thank you so much for coming on our show and sharing your story with us. Thanks for listening. Next week, we're sharing the first episode in Andrea's latest season of Nobody Should Believe Me. It's about Sophie Hartman, a mother who adopted two girls from Zambia.

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But the story takes a tragic turn when one of her daughters becomes terribly ill. So stay tuned, and we'll be back next week with that episode. If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal team or want to tell us your betrayal story, email us at betrayalpod at gmail.com. That's betrayalpod at gmail.com. We're grateful for your support.

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One way to show support is by subscribing to our show on Apple Podcasts. And don't forget to rate and review Betrayal. Five-star reviews go a long way. A big thank you to all of our listeners. Betrayal is a production of Glass Podcasts, a division of Glass Entertainment Group in partnership with iHeart Podcasts. The show is executive produced by Nancy Glass and Jennifer Faison.

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Hosted and produced by me, Andrea Gunning. Written and produced by Monique Laborde. Also produced by Ben Fetterman. Associate producers are Kristen Malkuri and Caitlin Golden. Our iHeart team is Allie Perry and Jessica Kreincheck. Audio editing and mixing by Matt DelVecchio. Additional editing support from Tanner Robbins. Betrayals theme composed by Oliver Baines.

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