Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
Why Relationships Die & Which Ethnicity is WORST in Divorce | The Divorce Expert
Wed, 26 Mar 2025
YERRR NYC’s top divorce lawyer James Sexton came to get Flagrant with the guys. He explains his wildest stories from the courtroom, find out what really ruins relationships, debate whether love is a scam, and learn why all marriages already have a built in prenup that is worse than you can imagine... All that and more on this week’s episode of FLAGRANT. INDULGE 00:00 Intro 00:57 Public profile 3:10 K*ll instead of divorce + Hiding wealth 6:49 Being frank + repping the worst 11:22 Being the hero + Charm hiding DV 19:51 Finding out you're repping the villain 24:55 Mediating rather being adversarial 29:17 Craziest stories, Cheating & iPhone discovery 35:55 Cheating isn't always the end 43:02 Custody battles + Less you care, more advantage 50:00 Judge Trans stipulation 53:31 Weirdest way getting paid + Hooking up? 59:31 You should get a PRE-NUP 1:12:07 Child support 1:13:36 Why does alimony exist? 1:20:50 March Madness + Brackets fun 1:26:02 Why get married? 1:43:27 This could all be easier 1:53:08 Let's rebrand pre-nup + No fault divorces 1:59:49 Pitted against each other + Estate planning 2:06:01 Good faith bad advice 2:09:08 Stereotypes are a real time saver 2:14:14 How do you define infidelity? 2:16:34 Legal marriage origins 2:19:35 Who has the most volatile divorces? 2:21:54 What was Jim's divorce like? 2:23:49 Politics driving divorce + Pettiest divorces 2:28:56 No issue repping the bad guy 2:31:09 Religiosity impacting marriage 2:36:42 What makes marriage successful? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: Why should you reconsider getting the government involved in your marriage?
Why is it rude to say to someone, you guys are getting along, you're in love, you're having fun. Why do you want to get the government involved? What most people call love today was something that was invented in the 50s to sell shampoo. All three of you have a prenup. The government wrote it. You think that's a good idea?
You ever been to the DMV?
You ever walk into the DMV and go, these people should be in charge of everything.
You are pro-marriage, you're just anti-marriage without a prenup. People want to do dumb sh**.
You want to do some dumb shit? Do some dumb shit. Just admit you're doing some dumb shit.
What is your craziest divorce that you lost? I shouldn't say this in public, but I will. Her husband ran her over three times and stabbed her 16 times.
Who's the worst in divorce? Culturally, ethnically, racially. Sometimes stereotypes are a real time saver.
Let's just call that it. Russian women, in my experience professionally, they get ice cold. When you're married to a Russian woman, there's nothing she won't do for you. And when you're divorcing a Russian woman, there is nothing she won't do to you. Like she will your right up.
Is there anything that you've learned through all these divorces about what makes marriages successful?
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Chapter 2: What are the craziest divorce cases involving violence?
So it's unbelievable.
Because they're not actually generating income. And you only pay tax on income.
I guess you could pay capital gains too. But not if you do it the right way. So what happens is these people pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to accountants and tax attorneys to make sure they don't have to pay taxes. But they don't anticipate that when they get divorced, this is just going to blow up in your face. Wait, why? Why is it?
Because it makes it so complicated to figure out where is the money? What is marital? What is outside the scope of the marital estate? What can the judge get their hands on? What can't they get their hands on? So it becomes a really, really tricky, messy thing.
Do you prefer the ultra high net worth clients, those cases?
I mean, they pay their bill on time, which is nice.
But outside of payment, is it just more stressful? Is it more grueling? Is it?
You know, I'm very blessed. I'm at the place in my career now where I have high net worth and ultra high net worth clients. And you can have a smaller number of clients who you give a lot more personalized attention to. Because anybody who's at like a certain level of net worth, they are used to being weighted on and they're used to their professionals. Like they've not romanticized a lawyer.
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Chapter 3: Which ethnic group is perceived as the worst in divorces?
Like, they know lots of lawyers. So they look at lawyers like you'd look at, like, a plumber. Like, you know, there's a lot of people that do this. You work for me. And, you know, they're used to it. So you have to give them a certain level of attention. But unlike a plumber, like, you do get to yell at them.
Like, sometimes that's what they want. This is interesting. Yeah, you're almost like an authority figure. Yeah, I am. Okay, you are. Yeah. even though they're hiring you. That's really, yeah, it's like there's few positions where you're subservient to the person you're hiring. Like a trainer is one of them.
Like your trainer can yell at you, tell you you're being lazy, get you together, stop eating this shit. There's lawyer and then maybe like doctor. Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, the people you should never lie to are your doctor and your lawyer. Because like everything you tell us, every single thing you tell us is protected by privilege. And there's absolutely our only jobs to protect you.
How do you do that in the beginning? So you're sitting down with somebody and you could tell they're being a little fugazi about the information. How do you just go, dude? You're going to screw yourself if you don't tell me where the fucking bodies are buried.
I literally say that. I mean, I don't pull any punches on it. But what I usually will say to them just to kind of take it to a place that they can understand is I'll say, look, at the beginning of this relationship, I want you to understand, I represent people who have been victims of domestic violence. I represent perpetrators of domestic violence.
I represent people who are, by any objective standard, amazing parents. And I represent people who just want to put the kids in the middle for leverage for child support purposes. And I am no one's moral compass. I'm a weapon. And a weapon in the hands of a hero, right, is going to protect people. And a weapon in the hands of the villain is going to cause chaos.
But the weapon is kind of neutral, right?
Who's the worst person you've defended?
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Chapter 4: How can prenups protect you in a marriage?
Yeah. So so you have that thought. Like so. So first of all, yes, I'm I'm I'm a sensitive person. I don't think I could do this job well if I wasn't. Because to do this job well, it's just like, I think it's like being a comic. I think you have to have a sensitivity. You have to be able to read what's going on with this audience.
And you have to know what's working, what's not, and be able to shift, right? So it's the same exact thing. It's just my audience is a judge. And I'm really here, like our job's the same. We're here to manipulate people's emotional states.
That's our job.
Your job is to manipulate people. You want them to laugh, relax, and enjoy. I want the other side to be scared. I want my client to feel safe. I want the judge to like my client and hate the other side. So I'm here just manipulating everybody's emotional state. And to do that well, I have to be very open, receptive, empathetic, and sensitive. The downside of that is, yeah, I'm sensitive.
I'm empathetic. I feel a lot of it. I represent the client, but I also represent the system. And I don't always believe in the client, but I believe in the system.
Give me an example of that.
I was talking about it on Mark's show some time ago when I represented a guy who was a pimp. Like literally a pimp. That was his job. Like he actually was, you know, I mean, he had other he's in federal prison now for guns, but he he was an atrocious human being. He was an abuser. He was.
And I was up against an adversary who was an unskilled attorney and very like it was all this woman could afford. And I absolutely ran her over and we walked out of court. And the guy pat me on the back and he said, man, one good lawyer's worth 20 stick-up men. And I just remember thinking, like, I want to go home and just take a shower right now because that just feels dirty. That's crazy.
So you do have that. I've always wondered if lawyers have that feeling. Of course, of course. And then can you compartmentalize that?
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Chapter 5: What are the financial consequences of divorce for high net worth individuals?
No, we went to a hotel.
I'm in class here. I'm a cheap date. No, I feel like a lot of lawyers... What's interesting is if you read the disciplinary opinions for lawyers, it's really funny because they fuck up lawyers and disbar lawyers for financial stuff really fast. Almost like you read that they publish these decisions. It runs chills through all of us.
But you'll read it and they're like, this lawyer had sex with three of his clients. He, you know, had a serious cocaine problem and he told three of his clients the cases were resolved when in fact they weren't, you know, suspended for two weeks from the practice. of law. And then they're like, this guy did not report $23 that he received in cash disbarred. And you're like, fuck!
Like, the money thing is the biggest thing. So lawyers who play it fast and loose with that stuff, like, you're not going to be around long. Have you ever hooked up with any clients? No. No. And I have to tell you... Have they thrown it at you?
No, for real.
You never circled back after you got the good divorce, got a pay, and I was like, yeah, we could spend his money together.
I will tell you why.
Because... I'm trying to figure out how to say this without offending any of my existing clients. The truth is that if you represent a woman in her divorce, you will never fucking want to date her. You see the worst of this person. That's a good lie. That's a good lie. He's a good lawyer. There's a rule in New York. There's a rule in New York.
Matrimonial lawyers are not, we're the only lawyers that are not allowed to have sex with our clients. It's a rule. Like, if you do a real estate closure for someone, you can fuck them. But if you're a divorce lawyer, a domestic relations lawyer, you cannot have sex with your client for six months after the representation's concluded.
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