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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

John Mearsheimer and Jeffrey Sachs | All-In Summit 2024

Tue, 01 Oct 2024

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(0:00) Announcement from Friedberg! (0:21) Sacks intros John Mearsheimer and Jeffrey Sachs (1:32) What is the Deep State Party, and what are their goals? (13:56) Should America leverage its power against dictators? (22:07) The China threat: avoiding the escalatory path to nuclear war (36:08) India's growing role; are China's wounds self-inflicted? (47:07) Conflict in the Middle East and the path to peace Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect

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0.209 - 21.101 Chamath

Hey everybody, Friedberg here. What you're about to hear is a panel discussion from our All In Summit recorded in LA on September 10th. We're going to publish some of the best conversations once a week over the next month. If you want to see all the talks, subscribe to our YouTube channel at youtube.com slash at all in and follow us on X at the all in pod.

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22.042 - 25.624

One of the most influential and controversial thinkers in the world.

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26.974 - 47.987 Jeffrey Sachs

He is known as one of the world's leading experts on economic development. One of the most famous political scientists in history. We're talking about moral and political principles here. I would suggest that all four wars could be ended quickly.

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48.307 - 51.089 John Mearsheimer

Great power politics is now back on the table.

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51.489 - 56.092 Jeffrey Sachs

If we are anything as a world community, we have to implement what we've said.

66.789 - 91.745 David Sacks

I'm excited for this panel. We're going to talk about foreign policy. We have, I think, two of the most interesting, eminent, renowned thinkers about foreign policy, Professor John Mearsheimer from University of Chicago and Professor Jeffrey Sachs from Columbia. So great to have you guys here today. It's a big world, and there's a lot of things happening, so let's just jump into it.

92.305 - 110.197 David Sacks

The big news over the past week was that Dick Cheney endorsed Kamala Harris for president. I think for people who see the world in partisan political terms, this might have been surprising, but I don't think that you guys were that surprised by that. Do you see an underlying logic to this? Jeff, why don't I start with you?

111.798 - 139.808 Jeffrey Sachs

I think it's obvious. There's basically one deep state party. And that is the party of Cheney, Harris, Biden, Victoria Nuland, my colleague at Columbia University now. And Nuland is kind of the face of all of this because she has been in every administration for the last 30 years. She was in the Clinton administration wrecking our policies towards Russia in the 1990s.

140.429 - 171.937 Jeffrey Sachs

She was in the Bush administration, junior, with Cheney. wrecking our policies towards NATO enlargement. She was in then the Obama administration as Hillary's spokesperson first and then making a coup in Ukraine in February 2014, not a great move, started a war. Then she was Biden's Under Secretary of State. Now that's both parties.

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