Elon Musk | All-In Summit 2024
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Hey everybody, Friedberg here. What you're about to hear is a discussion from our All In Summit recorded in LA on September 9th. We're going to publish some of the best conversations once a week. If you want to see all the talks, subscribe to our YouTube channel at youtube.com slash at all in and follow us on X at the all in pod.
I'm gonna take this.
All right.
Thanks for taking the time.
How are you doing, brother? You keeping busy?
Yeah. I mean, it's rarely a slow week. I mean, in the world as well.
Yeah.
I mean, any given week, it just seems like the thing's getting out of here.
It's definitely a simulation. We've agreed on this at this point.
I mean... Well, if we are in some alien Netflix series, I think the ratings are high.
Yes, the ratings are high. How are the freedom of speech wars going? This is a, you've been at war for two years now.
Yes.
The price of freedom of speech is not cheap, is it?
I think it's like 44 billion, something like that.
Give or take a billion?
Yeah, round of numbers. It's pretty nutty. There is like this weird movement to quell free speech kind of around the world. And this is something we should be very concerned about. You know, you have to ask, like, why was the First Amendment like a high priority? It was like number one. It's because... People came from countries where if you spoke freely, you would be imprisoned or killed. And they were like, well, we'd like to not have that here. Because that was terrible. And actually, you know, there's a lot of places in the world right now, if you're critical of the government, you get imprisoned or killed.
Right.
Yeah, we'd like to not have that.
Are you concerned?
Can I add to that? I suspect this is a receptive audience to that message.
I think we always thought that the West was the exception to that, that we knew there were authoritarian places around the world, but we thought that in the West we'd have freedom of speech. And we've seen, like you said, it seems like a global movement. In Britain, you've got Teenagers being put in prison for memes opposing.
It's like you like to you like to Facebook posts throw them in the prison. Yeah People got an actual, you know prison for for like like obscure comments on social media not even shitposting like not even Like what is the
Massive crime? Right. Pavel in France, and then of course we got Brazil with Judge Voldemort. That one seems like the one that impacts you the most. What's the latest on that?
Well, I guess we are trying to figure out is there some reasonable solution in Brazil. You know, the concern, I mean, I want to just make sure that this is framed correctly. And, you know, funny memes aside, the nature of the concern was that, at least at XCorp, we had the perception that we were being asked to do things that violated Brazilian law. So obviously we cannot as an American company impose American laws and values on other countries that, you know, we wouldn't get very far if we did that. But we do, you know, think that if a country's laws are a particular way, and we're being asked to, we think we're being asked to break them, and be silent about it, then obviously that is no good.
So I just want to be clear, sometimes it comes across as Elon's trying to just be a crazy, whatever, billionaire, and demand outrageous things from other countries. you know, while that is true. In addition, there are other things that I think are, you know, valid, which is like, we obviously can't, you know, I think any given thing that we do at XCorp, we've gotta be able to explain in light of day and not feel that it was dishonorable or, you know, We did the wrong thing. That's the nature of the concern. We actually are in discussions with the judicial authorities in Brazil to try to run this to ground. What's actually going on? If we're being asked to break the law Brazilian law, then that obviously should not sit well with the Brazilian judiciary. And if we're not and we're mistaken, we'd like to understand how we're mistaken. I think that's a pretty reasonable position.
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