Richard Taite
Appearances
We're Out of Time
Jenny Leone's Inspirational Journey to Healing from Sexual Trauma and Addiction
Yeah.
We're Out of Time
Jenny Leone's Inspirational Journey to Healing from Sexual Trauma and Addiction
Yep.
We're Out of Time
Jenny Leone's Inspirational Journey to Healing from Sexual Trauma and Addiction
Nope.
We're Out of Time
Jenny Leone's Inspirational Journey to Healing from Sexual Trauma and Addiction
Okay.
We're Out of Time
Jenny Leone's Inspirational Journey to Healing from Sexual Trauma and Addiction
No, I'm not up on my serial killers.
We're Out of Time
Jenny Leone's Inspirational Journey to Healing from Sexual Trauma and Addiction
45.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
Which he should have won. Um, But that's how long he's cared about this thing, right? And one of the great days was the introduction to you. And I was reading today in April of 2023, you guys had a setback with Alexandra's Law, okay? Before you get into that setback, can you tell the audience what Alexandra's Law is?
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
the problems you had with it in April, and exactly what it does now included into Prop 36.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
It doesn't seem like it's hard to prove right now. Not now. There's somebody dying every seven minutes in this country.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
This, to the listeners, doesn't sound like common sense. Does sound like common sense. It doesn't. Because... Even the passage of this seems so light and so just ridiculous. Give me some examples if you know of them in red states that just aren't having any of this. Do you know anything like that? Well, in many red states, they've passed legislation that's actually tougher. That's my point.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
Give me some examples, because that's where you're going to find the common sense. Right.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
Okay, today's Fentanyl Awareness Day. And what we're going to do for that is we're going to honor the families who have lost their loved ones to fentanyl. And the best way to do that is to introduce you to a gentleman by the name of Matt Capilouto. But I know him as Alexandra's dad. So... Welcome, Matt. How you doing, man? Thank you. Thank you for having me, Rich. Appreciate it.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
Very quickly. Yes, this was too harsh. The slap on the wrist was too harsh. Yes, the warning was. This is so funny. Dylan, we have to put this on the camera. Okay. We have to get a real, it's a get out of jail free card, just like you would have in Monopoly. This is genius. I like this. Chance, sell drugs, kill Americans, go directly to jail. Do not pass go, do not collect $200.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
And then you've got this. To our website. To your website. Yeah.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
This is actually what the judge or the bailiff will read these folks, these dealers being charged with this. Okay, this is good. Oh, okay, it's better. Okay. Okay. Yeah, I have a feeling that in some of these red states, it's like you deal fentanyl and you're like locked up for over a decade.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
I want to go over the fentanyl thing federally for a second because I've been doing some research for a long time. And what I did was I was putting these things down and then I cross-referenced them with what President Trump is currently doing for the fentanyl crisis and what he's going to be doing in short order. And I'm very encouraged by what he's been doing.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
So the first thing he's done is he's disrupted domestic fentanyl labs and pill mills with DEA tasks, task forces. That's fantastic, right? He's increased funding to law enforcement for drug interdiction and border enforcement. That's good. Okay. He's strengthened the border detection tech and canine units at ports of entry. And really, I was just viewing the news the other night.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
The illegal entry into the United States from the southern border has essentially stopped. He expanded access to naloxone and makes it available over the counter. He's done more of that. Funded state-level harm reduction programs. Okay, that's not true. That's going on right now. He's not going to have an ear for that. Okay? And you shouldn't.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
Because there's many ways to do harm reduction, right? Fentanyl strips are not the way to go, okay? Because they don't work.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
Well, that's a that's this is a holistic plan, right? Yeah. And these are the things he's doing currently. Let me tell you what he's going to be doing. He is going to broker a deal with China to stop exporting fentanyl precursor chemicals. Okay. I've said all along that is the most surveilled country in the world. They know where everybody is and what they're doing at all times.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
They're looking the other way. Okay. And right now this is affecting our military. So it's a national security issue. If he hasn't already, he will be classifying fentanyl trafficking as a national security threat. He's going to be, if he hasn't already, designating Mexican cartels as foreign terrorist organizations. I think I heard something about that just recently. This is my all-time favorite.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
It's a big deal, huh? It is a big deal. I mean, I'm not crazy about having a day. Yeah. Okay? That seems kind of lame and, you know, gratuitous. Wish there wasn't a need for it. Well, I mean, every day should be Fentanyl Awareness Day. Tell me about Alexandra and what made her so special.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
Authorize cross-border strike capabilities for cartel labs in coordination with Mexico. Or not in coordination with Mexico. I care not at all. I care not at all. Yeah, not at all. Okay. Launch a nationwide fentanyl education and warning campaign for middle and high schools, which is exactly what you and I are doing every day. Right? This is, you know, here's the reason.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
If you're not affected by fentanyl, if you don't have a child or a loved one who's gone, you don't feel it. Your life is busy. You're like, okay, this sucks. This is a bad deal. It's horrible. Right. You know, but it doesn't land. Right. And, and I've got young children. And it seems insane to me for parents with young children, youngish children, teenagers, early 20s.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
It's like, if you're not interested in this and you've had children, why'd you have children?
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
And with your daughter, the important thing to know is she wasn't an active drug user. See, the people that are active drug users, fentanyl users, don't typically die because they know how to use fentanyl. It's the kids from college or high school that go to a party or whatever that are not sophisticated at this. They're the ones dying. So it's really harming the kids that...
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
And we're out of time because they're dying. That's why. Do you know we call this we're out of time? Great name. Well, because you. That's why. Dude, everything was because of you. Everything I've done after hearing your story, everything I've done is because of you. Let's go.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
I want to finish this thing because I want to create some hope around this thing nationally because we're at a time where our president, okay, is not like other presidents. He creates a vaccine in nine months that takes 20 years to do. OK, he doesn't care about Congress or the courts telling him what he can't do. He's going to do what he wants to do. Right.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
You know, I call it a more modern democracy. It's going to be a modern democracy going forward. OK, that's just what this is. Real quick, mandate digital warnings on social media platforms where pills are sold, Snapchat, Telegram, etc. Okay, that would be amazing, right?
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
Right, but they're smart enough to have AA algorithms that when people are looking at that specific content, I'm not talking about an Elmo video or an unboxing video for five-year-olds, right? I'm talking about something that comes up in or around that subject. And then it's like warning where it's flashing. Okay. Support that 100%. And he's going to do it.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
And there's no reason not to do it because it's not around other content. So it's not going to affect their bottom line. This is something that needs to be done. I mean, it's come on. Mark, come on, man.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
Alexandra's Law, or something stricter, obviously, nationally. Okay. And it is right now.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
Wouldn't it be great if the president instituted something where the federal government had to oversee specifically that they were doing these cases and that they weren't just blowing it on?
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
This is the perfect president for the fentanyl issue. He's perfect, okay, for this, okay? You cannot find a better man. You can't.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
Okay. Create a fentanyl specific federal charge with mandatory minimums. He's doing it. launch a national treatment infrastructure build out 1,000 new centers in five years. I don't know if he's going to do that. It's a challenge. It's ambitious. I just don't know if that's in his wheelhouse. I do know this.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
I do know that if he knew that there were building after building after building vacant at the VA, I know for certain he'd be like, Throw him in there. Treat those people. I mean, that man must be aggravated all day long.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
Okay, and... I agree to that. There's more awareness around it, thank God. There's more access to Narcan.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
OK, that needs it needs to be hit on every level. OK, because that's how wars are fought. Right. It doesn't take a year to get off fentanyl. OK, depending on the length of usage and the amount of usage, it could take you a year to for your head to completely clear. OK, but it's rare, very rare. OK, this thing typically can be knocked out in 90 days.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
okay, with a good aftercare program because it's like anything else. If you don't use it, you lose it, right? You walk out of a treatment center on fire, I'm good, I'm going to kill it, right? And then, you know, 90 days later, they're back where they were because, you know, you don't go through 40 hours of treatment a week and then just walk into nothing. That's not reality.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
There's one thing I'll never know, right? But remember, you called me and didn't you want me to spend money on a billboard? Didn't you do that? Yes. Right?
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
Do you remember the day? November 5th, 2024. November 5th, 2024. Excellent. Now... When did it start gaining traction? At the beginning of 2024? Was it a little before that? Because I remember in April, in April 2023, you had that huge setback. So when did it start where you said, okay, this now has a shot?
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
So if you're listening to this podcast... And you've had enough of that nonsense. There are the four people to get rid of as quickly as possible.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
But if you can drive a car at 16, okay, which it has deadly capabilities, okay, then you should be able to, like, can't you go to war at 18? Yeah.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
Yeah. 16 and 18, 16 through 18 should be a different standard. Right.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
When did this thing start really taking hold? There was a taunt. Was it in 2024?
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
Where if you write out of the line this much, they don't count signature.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
So really what they're saying is there's 70% of the people in California who have common sense. Yeah. Yeah. You know, that's good news. I didn't think that that was that high.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
Let me just go back because these are people. This was a this was not a liberal movement. idea the liberals were very much against this in california so to have where 60 where two-thirds of the state is democrat to have 70 of the state say uh-uh this is a bridge too far you're dealing this stuff you're going to jail
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
Drug offense dealing or using? Either. Okay, well, you can never lent those two, but go on.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
Who the hell goes through... three convictions of anything. 99% of cases settle.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
That's not going to make a big difference. And the reason it's not going to make a big difference is exactly what I told you. Okay. They're going to plead. Okay. So they're never going to be in that situation. Now, a lot of the times the pleading will result in that. Yes.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
So that's not in there yet. No, it is in there. Okay. So what does it say? What is the definition of completely completed their treatment? Well, I imagine, you know, if it's a number of steps.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
I don't know what that includes. So you'd have to read more in the details of Prop 13. I want you to send that. I don't want to put them on the screen. Because that's bull. And let me tell you, Walk, depending on how you define that, Okay. It doesn't mean anything. It's like saying, what is your success rate in a rehab? People ask me that all the time. I'm like, what criteria?
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
Because every single rehab uses a different criteria to serve them and make them look good. My definition is a year sober with regular testing every week. Okay, so that you know, you don't think you know, you know, you know, it's real, right? So a year sober, you know, six months in a rehab and six months in a sober living with outpatient. Okay, that to me sounds like, okay, you're good.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
I would even say further, it might be an extra two years OK. Right. So if you fall in the next two years, it's not expunged. Right. So these are the types of things that I would be interested to know.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
But that goes back... That's not... That's illusory. Okay? It's illusory because... 98% or 99% are being settled out. They're not going to trial. They're not being arrested. You're saying they're not even being arrested? That's correct. Absolutely. You didn't say convicted. You said arrested. Arrested. Both. Both. 98% of the fentanyl dealers don't even get arrested. Absolutely.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
So they're out there and the cops are just, I don't want to deal with this right now.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
And we need to shift that. Why are they writing it up as an accidental overdose? How would they know? Why wouldn't they just write it up as an overdose and then let the legal process take its course? Because if it's marked non-criminal. There's no further investigation. What do you mean? How do you mark an overdose non-criminal before you've investigated it?
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
OK, so but they don't know. So why not, Nathan? There's your next deal.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
The vast majority do not. Come on. I don't even know any here for this. There's nothing like, you know, this type of uh trauma and it's really murder it's poison it's not it's not they're not overdosed they're being poisoned right to death yeah so i've never heard of something like this and then somebody gets a an admonishment in court and people are like yay this is nonsense to me
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
But then you deal it again, but nobody dies. It doesn't take effect, does it? Well, if somebody does die, and they can- Forget that. In this scenario, the guy goes in, he sells fentanyl, nobody dies, he gets arrested, and he's read an admonishment in court. There is no conviction. It's- It's in stone. It's part of the deal. If you want to leave today, this is the deal you're cutting.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
And then they do that. Five minutes later, he's out on the street dealing again, but nobody dies. What did the admonishment... Well, keep in mind, so we mirrored our current... Forget that. I'm talking about the law right now.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
However, that's true and I'll tell you why that's happening. But true or untrue, you get an admonishment, you leave the courthouse before you hit the car, you're caught dealing again, you're arrested and back in court, but nobody dies. Other than what did the admonishment in that scenario mean?
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
The answer is nothing, correct? If you don't, if you get the admonishment... I'm not talking shit about the admonishment, dude. I'm the president of the fan club right now about admonishment. Somebody doesn't have to listen to it. They don't have to. I understand. But they're setting themselves up for trouble in the future. I understand that.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
But true or untrue, does there anything different happen to them if they leave the courtroom, they just got the admonishment, they're back the next day, but no one dies?
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
Okay. That's good. That's good news. Right. I was hoping there'd be something because, you know, you said to yourself that there's not investigating a ton of these things.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
They'll start doing it now because now they have the support. Yeah. of knowing they're going to be convicted, right? Before they knew that it was a waste of their time. So why would they do it? I get it. And there's too many of their constituents who have now lost a loved one that are demanding it.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
Now, let me tell you why there were so many people, okay, that stopped drinking and driving once the admonishment happened. Only five to 10% of the country rise to the level of drug addiction or alcoholism? Only about 10%. What does that mean? Well, there's the rest of us, the other 90% of us that have high bottoms. We're not dependent on it. We're not thinking about it all day, right?
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
So those people immediately, over half of those people are going to immediately go, ah, never again. Those are the rule followers among us. And the rest, to various degrees, are going to be compliant. So because of that and because it's in our consciousness from back of mind to front of mind, what happens is you're always going to have a huge positive result when you do something like that.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
I think I might have said something earlier in the podcast to conflict that and I was wrong.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
You and I both get caught drinking and driving. We both go in front of the court. The judge looks at you and says, Matthew, if you ever drink and drive again, you're going to jail for a decade. Do you hear me? And you're like, yes, sir, my ass is kicked. And you can actually make a decision in that moment. Never drinking and driving again. Me? I'm told that? I'm going to jail. I know it.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
I'm factoring it in. Go to jail. Right? I mean, check. Right? It's just a matter of time. So I don't have a choice. How can other families support your mission?
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
Was she on psych medication?
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
Now, you know, the podcast is here because of you and your daughter. We've been doing it.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
I know I had them all on my, you helped me to find them. I got all those people on that PSA that I ran up in Sacramento for a year. Fentanyl changes everything.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
When Alexandra's love was being hurt. From October 23 through and including December 24. Yeah. Wow. You know, I didn't even know your name forever. What did I used to call you?
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
Like you said, we're out of time. So before you go, I wanted to tell you about an idea I had, right, that I think would be really good. I want you to write a beginning, a middle, and an end to a documentary or a short film about your daughter and fentanyl. Don't get into the passage of anything and none of that noise, okay? Just how wonderful your daughter was, right?
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
I'll want video afterwards of her maybe as a baby and with her parents and Pappy, right? And then... As she grows up and what made her so special, right? And then what happened? So a beginning, a middle, and an end, okay? I'm thinking 10, 15 minutes max, right? When you do that, I'll have it made into that movie, that short film, and we'll show it in every school in the country, okay?
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
How many times did you guys go through... the process of trying this psych medication and then that that didn't work or that didn't have a it did make her feel good and then went to the second one to try that and rule that one out and then go to the third did you have that experience yeah i'll tell you uh
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
think that's realistic okay well it's fentanyl awareness day so let's call it may june how's by july 1st so we can get this thing out let's call it uh september 1st okay huh good goal yeah you gotta set a goal yeah uh i think you know what that lines up well with everything here the beginning of the new school year
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
All right. After you write this thing, you start dealing with your school people and let's get it in your area first. Yeah.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
And if they don't, what are we going to do, Dylan, if they don't do it? We'll make sure they do it. We'll make sure they do it. For sure. We will move accordingly. We will move accordingly.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
We're out of time. Please subscribe on YouTube. Click the thumbs up and leave a comment. Please subscribe on Apple Podcasts and Spotify and leave a rating and a review. And share the We're Out of Time podcast with others you know who will get value out of it. See you next Tuesday.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
parent to think this cannot happen to their family to their kids they've simply forgotten what it's like to be a teenager it's not about me it's not about you it's about the lives that are going to be lost if we don't step up and do something now like you said we're out of time thank you for listening to the we're out of time podcast with richard tate if you haven't already please follow the podcast rate and review and if you're getting value out of we're out of time share it with someone else you know for fentanyl awareness day a special message from our new los angeles district attorney nathan hawkman
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
They're desensitized. I have a handful of doctors who have never lost the love.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
It's built for physical pain, but it works better on emotional pain. And the reason she was using that and why she would have continued to use that is because if that quiets the mind and you're telling yourself what a piece of garbage you are all day long, this is wrong with me, that's wrong with me, all this other stuff, and it quiets the mind, you're going to do that until the wheels fall off.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
Was she scoring pills on the street prior to this? And if so, for how long?
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
They found a bag with 10 other pills. So we don't know if she took half a pill or one pill and then...
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
Whatever happened to ignorance of the law is no excuse. And he got nine years.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
You won't be there to say, this is where my daughter would have been X years. you know, old, this guy's been doing this forever. He said right here, he knew what he was doing. You think my daughter's the only one? You can't, you're not going to do that? There's nothing that can add to his sentence. No, but you can keep them there an extra year and a half.
We're Out of Time
How Alexandra Capelouto's Memory Became A Focal Point In California's Prop 36
Good. This guy gets a job. You should be taking 25% of his salary for the rest of his life. Okay, but let's get into a couple things because I wanted to talk about them. The first thing I was reading today because the DA Nathan Hockman introduced us well before he was, um, uh, running for DA. He was running for, um, attorney general for attorney general state of California. That's right.
We're Out of Time
Famous Dex's Rise to Fame: From Trauma to Stardom
But your buddy, they try to whack you? Hell yeah, they try to charge me too much because they know who I am. Oh, that, like, uh-uh. Especially the Mundrian and all these, yeah, yeah. Right. I love you, Ado.
We're Out of Time
From Grief to Purpose: Erik Thureson on the Loss of His Son, Hella Sketchy
We're out of time. Please subscribe on YouTube. Click the thumbs up and leave a comment. Please subscribe on Apple Podcasts and Spotify and leave a rating and a review. And share the We're Out of Time podcast with others you know who will get value out of it. See you next Tuesday.
We're Out of Time
From Grief to Purpose: Erik Thureson on the Loss of His Son, Hella Sketchy
We're Out of Time has reached number three on the Apple Podcast Mental Health Chart. Thank you for listening, supporting, and sharing this journey with us. Please follow the podcast, rate, and review. And if you're getting value out of We're Out of Time, share it with someone else you know.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
Really? Yes. How far along is she? Seven weeks. Wife, girlfriend, fiance? Girlfriend. Really?
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
How old is she? She is 30-something. Really? Yeah. See, she's getting in under the wire. You know, you got to have a kid, I think, now by 38 if you want to have a second child. Literally, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm not a baby doctor. We can call and ask my baby doctor, but... Do you have kids? I have two children. I talk to them about the fentanyl issue all the time.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
I was taking my son to school the other day. I took him today too. I take my son to school the other day and he's getting out of the car. I start getting emotional. I said to him, I said, I need you for a minute. He says, yeah. I said, look, I know we've talked about this fentanyl thing and the vape thing because it's in the vapes now. Yeah. And all the drugs and pills and everything else.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
But I just want you to know that at some point, because he just went into sixth grade. So now he's in middle school.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
And I said to him, I said, it's going to happen, babe. And let me tell you how it's going to happen. Somebody is going to walk up to you. and want you to participate in drugs, give you a pill and put peer pressure on you to do it. He says, I won't do it. I said, let me finish. Okay. The only reason they're doing that and bringing you into it is because they know it's wrong. For sure.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
And they know it's dangerous. And, but if they bring you in it, they feel a little less wrong because you're co-signing their, their behavior. Don't co-sign anybody's behavior, bro. Okay. I love you. Okay. This is not something I get over. Okay. Please. And he looks at me and he goes, I love you so much, daddy. And I was like, you know, I must've had this conversation. That's beautiful.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
Dude, I left and I cried for about half the way home from school because I'm just so scared, not just for me, but for you and for the parents that lost their child and the children that That were left without a father. And it's just, it's too much, dude. It's, it's why I came back to work and it's why I started doing this, you know?
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
Dude, don't, please. We don't have to get into it. I can't. I don't even have an ear for it. Where else are your gigs? You just got back from Spain. Who'd you play with by the way there?
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
And, you know, I'm just grateful to you for showing up because this, this is taking, this is killing everybody.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
I just don't even understand.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
We don't let our kids have social media. My daughter's 14 years old. And it's like, she's on TikTok all the time. She's like, can I, you know, I think she might have something that's private with like, I don't know, just a group of friends. Right. But, you know, social media is tough, man. And people are so mean.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
I had that same problem when I was a kid. I had a model, right? My father. And what I gleaned from that was... I treated people shabbily. to make myself feel good. I didn't know another way, right? And later on in life with therapy and I went to AA, right? In my early sobriety, I learned that's not the way you do it, right?
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
I don't need to make you feel small to make myself feel big, but I didn't know. I love that. Yeah, so- Yeah, dude, that's a parent thing. That is definitely a parent thing.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
If the model is shitty though, you come out shitty. Unfortunately, that is the case. You know anybody right now that is struggling with drug addiction. Because I was really bad, bro. Let me just start with this. I was smoking crack. I'm a buck 90 right now. I was a buck 47. All my teeth are cracked, right? I'm pale, but I've got a greenish, not greenish, a grayish tone to me, right?
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
I'm 147 pounds dripping wet. And I'm smoking between six and eight days straight at a time. All the time. Taking a Big Mac once a week just to keep myself alive. Now, that's the way I used. Okay? You know anybody... It's hard to find people who are using like that anymore. But because they usually die before they get to six or eight days.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
Now we're in a different, now we're out of time.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
So now if somebody's using drugs- Yeah. Okay. it you know their their their um their covers need to be pulled because there's somebody's kid there's somebody's parent for sure right and we're losing everybody right so that's that's the thing there but i love what you said what made you um stop um and change your life from using drugs oh dude the life I was living was exhausting.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
So, your name is Apollo. Apollo Liberace, yes sir. Apollo, but that's with all the ice, right?
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
Just exhausting. I mean, first of all, You have to buy an ounce of cocaine every day because you can't just go buy a kilo.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
It's a hassle because you have to get an ounce of cocaine every single day.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
Okay. It's just nasty. It's all nasty. It's exhausting. It's nasty. And that was my story. Dude, you know how good that is that you've set a healthy boundary for yourself where that's just not you're going to deal with.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
Okay, tell me about your old man.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
Your old man had the same conversation with you that I had with my son the other morning.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
Well, he probably won't remember that. he'll remember one of the 30 or 40 or 50 times that we've had the conversation.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
And what have you done on the show that's been memorable that you'll remember?
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
That ain't a little thing. That's in-show advertising. That's in show. That's not like, you know, you're running a commercial and people like that and they fast forward through it. Literally. Right.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
We got a hotel. We're going to get into that story. Because I want to hear that story.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
So you're living in North Hollywood. Okay. Things are good. You've been okay financially now.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
I've never been an ass sucker. Nobody wants to be called an ass sucker.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
Okay. When you look back at, Your time being homeless. Yeah. Okay. Because you don't use that word, but you're doing that for four years. Yeah. Right. How was that experience going through that whole four years where you're just eating a sandwich chasing a dream?
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
Because... Dude, I know exactly what you mean.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
Yeah, you're going to do it. Do you know why you're going to do it? You're going to do it because you've cut off every other possibility.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
There's no discussion. There's no debate. You've thanked God in advance. And that's just happening, okay? And when you go through four years of being a homeless, and now you got your own pad, you're all iced up, which I don't care about. But you have a career and a following and an influence over others for positive, not always, always. And, um, there's no way you're not going to hit it up.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
I think you're the fifth rapper. I like that. That I've interviewed. And the reason I picked you guys more than anybody. Talk to me. It's it's fentanyl and accidental overdoses are killing the kids today. And it's prevalent in your scene, right? The underground rap scene. So that's why I started it in the first place. Yeah. Right. But I'm watching last night. We did something with Dusty.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
Well, I appreciate that. There's no way. It's not possible. That means a lot. You saying that is a little extra drive for me. You have that type of resiliency, right? And then you have a singleness of purpose to the point where you're in an environment where 99% of the people are getting loaded all day long and you're walking through straight as an arrow, right?
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
No, no, no, no. The best, I have a rule. Okay. The first hundred people that we hired at Carrera were by invitation only. Think about that. Wow. Only by, you had to have the best soul ever ever. Because that's my thing. Love's my thing. Love, empathy, safety, containment, respect, attunement to one's needs before they know they have one, right?
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
If somebody has to ask for some shit that they knew that they were going to be asking for and they didn't bring it to them, I'm pissed. like violently pissed.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
think about doing them like that's just ridiculous like it's not things it's like like my prayers used to be when i was doing drugs like yeah of course i want things to i don't know what you mean i want things to like so i can help my family and yeah i ask for those things for sure dude i would just say god i know you're disappointed with me yeah right um please just help me stay safe Right.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
And enjoy this run. And when it's over, we'll, we'll try again. Okay. Yeah. And then I'd say, what I always say is thank you, God. I love you. Amen. Right. And so I was not like you. Yeah. I was not like, Oh, tomorrow's going to be a better. Yeah. No, I didn't see any better days in front of me, but I knew I was covered. I knew that because of my connection, I knew I wouldn't be thrown away.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
Now, I didn't know what use I had in the world. I didn't know how I'd be useful. Because I think that life is about being of maximum service to God and to your fellow man. I just believe that people that come through the hardest of times.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
Are tough. Like, you know, a hundred percent. Yeah. They just toughen up. Yeah. What you went through is just like another level. Well, dude, I didn't know any better.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
I was raised by wolves. Facts. I mean, I didn't know. I mean, you're old man and you have the, and that's the thing.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
And, and like, why he, Because he was, he didn't have any cash either. He was, he was hard up too at that time.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
So I'm watching the tape last night. the raw footage. And I looked at Dylan and I go, dude, have you ever seen me happier and more comfortable in your life? And we watched the others earlier that week, this week. And same thing. I'm just happy. It's like, you know, there's something about like rappers that I just gravitate to. I love that.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
just even having that is i can't complain with my life you know i have both parents that are there for me so your dad did the same thing for you that i would have done for my kid you'd have been like listen i'm going here and like yeah i'm going there too now i've just dropped everything if you want to sleep in a car i would have slept it makes the story like
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
Well, what it makes is it means that the reason you are the way you are is because you had good parents and they put you first. Your father cannot love another human being more than he loves you. There's just no way. Do you have any brothers and sisters?
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
Really? Is he very close with the sisters too?
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
He's still talking to your mom?
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
You made the complete repair?
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
Does your dad live with you? Does he live with me now?
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
Oh, wow. That's shocking. I thought that you're... Like, when my kids leave the house, I'm going with them.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
No, no, no. I'm going with them. It's like, this one will go to New York.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
And you all live in kind of the same complex.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
That's a night. You know who does that? The people in Italy. When I told my guide, I said, hey- I don't want to see any of this tourist bullshit. Because at the end of the day, that's your tribe. That's your tribe. Do you know these guys? He brought me to the countryside. I'm like, where do you live? He goes, countryside. I said, take me there. Beautiful. He goes, my house?
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
I said, yeah, bro, to your house. Your house. Okay. So he takes me to his house. He lives on the bottom floor. Other family members live on the second and the third and the fourth. And his grandfather, who built the thing, lives on the top.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
And they all live together and they have lunch every day and dinner every night. We all eat dinner together. That's the most beautiful thing I've ever seen.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
You must talk to your old man every day.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
I need to ask you for a favor. Yes, sir. Anything you need. I need you to look into that camera right there. And I need you to say, see you next Tuesday.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
We're out of time. We're out of time.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
We're out of time. Please subscribe on YouTube, click the thumbs up and leave a comment. Please subscribe on Apple Podcasts and Spotify and leave a rating and a review and share the We're Out of Time podcast with others you know who will get value out of it. See you next Tuesday.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
And I don't even, and I don't even listen to music anymore, dude. Me either, which is, I make music. How do you not listen to music and you're a rapper?
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
But I thought the new way to create music is with no instruments. Yes.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
Are you willing to do something acapella right now?
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
Don't you want to find one guy? Yeah. every once in a while, like a famous producer, like a Rick Rubin. Yeah, exactly. Or something like that, right? Where you would have them knock you out one every once in a while.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
It was 3,000. Really? Yeah. 3,000. And you rocked the house. Insane. Insane. Do they know the words to your songs?
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
So where do you put it? Where do you have these songs?
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
So you moved around a lot because your mom was in the military.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
Dude, that's my biggest regret. My single biggest regret is not going into the military.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. I would have either been a four-star general or I'd been thrown out on my ass. No in between.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
Right. For sure. So, listen, you're not smoking a lot of pot, but you're around people.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
Who are smoking all day long.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
It's part of the... It's part of the culture. Yeah. I get it. Okay. But what about like... Fentanyl, the Fentanyl death. So is that happening? Do you know any people who have dropped from Fentanyl?
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
Okay. But how long ago was that?
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
Okay, so then we can assume that there was fentanyl in it.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
You don't get heroin from a pharmacy and they're all stepping on it.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
You can't do cocaine anymore. You literally can't. No, you can't do cocaine. You can't do heroin. Okay. Dude, the cocaine was at least 70% pure then. Well, it was always pure for me because I was rocking it up and smoking it. Love it. But, well, not really.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
Dude, I used to walk in with an ounce of cocaine, walk over, grab that off, throw it in there, walk down the aisle, grab some baking soda, throw it in there, walk over to the soda machine and do bang, bang with the water, stir it like this, take a bunch of napkins, put it on this push number seven, I think it was, on the microwave, get out, grab the ice, put it in my mouth,
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
everything that's been going on has been worth it. I just want to thank you for coming by today on short notice. Yeah. Your energy is so good that you just, even, you're, dude, you're the best.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
crash it up, put it in there, do this, walk out, throw 20 bucks on the counter in under a minute. People didn't even know what was going on. I once did it with a cop in the store. Jesus. Well, I needed to get high.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
Right. But fast, right? The reason I've got you on here.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
Is you got, how many followers you got on Instagram? Oh,
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
Okay, so you got 500,000. Okay. Kids are going to listen to you, right? Nobody's going to listen to me.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
Does he have parents that are still alive?
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
That family is never going to be the same.
We're Out of Time
Apollo Liberace MUSIC Is the ONLY High That Matters!
They're destroyed. How could you recover? They're completely destroyed. And the children are never going to be, the children are damaged forever.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
Now, let me ask you a question. Then you went and bought the farm.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
You still have the farm? I still have the farm. What are you using the farm for? Nothing right now. It's just sitting there. Yeah, so I got to teach you something, right? I got to teach you something because I made that same mistake. And then my buddy Charlie told me something. I had 10 homes. And they were almost all sitting empty. And he looked at me. Really the same way? That's right.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
And he looked at me and he said, hey, listen to me. Abundance good, excess bad. Every home has to have a purpose. Now for me, that was like a spiritual experience. Right. Right? You don't know what you don't know. So. I'm like, what do you mean? And he said, well, you live in a house. Your children live in another house with their ex. You have to do something with these other homes.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
So I rented out six of them, now seven today. Okay. Seven homes. Okay. And now there's nine, right? And my home and the family home, right? But every home has a purpose, right? Seven of them are returning income, right? And two of them we need to live. Every home has to have a purpose, right? you have to figure out what to do with that farm.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
And if you want help with that when this thing's over, we'll talk about that. We'll find some ideas for that.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
You're bleeding money. You're not creating eggs. You're not creating vegetables. You haven't rented it out. And you're paying property tax, you're paying insurance, and you're paying a mortgage. So right now, you're getting your ass kicked. I am. For no reason. Okay? Now, you're a star player because you got a farm.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
Yeah. Oh, that's great. Yeah. Okay, that's good. But you don't need a whole farm for that. You put a chicken coop in the backyard of... Yeah, yeah, that's true. I got goats.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
So let's talk about your drug use because you love your grandmother. Okay, and your grandmother is in love with her baby boy. That is for sure. You said you're still doing drugs. Okay, now I know you're smoking weed, but let's put that aside. Let me just ask one thing about the weed. Yeah, you make me emotional. Why, buddy? What made you emotional? What part of it?
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
or what the drugs are doing to your grandmother. Yeah, that's what it is. That's right. Now, What drugs... Forget the weed right now for a minute. As long as you're getting weed at the dispensary, you're not going to die. They're putting fentanyl on the weed now, dude. On the street. Where the f*** could they sell weed on the street if there wasn't fentanyl in it?
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
Or it wasn't laced with something that makes no sense at all.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
Anybody can walk into a dispensary. Okay? It's like legal. Right. Okay? So, that's... just don't buy it on the street. But what are you, what are you doing now?
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
You know, do you know why that is? How long have you been doing it?
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
Oh, yeah, I do. I'm pretty certain I know the reason. And by pretty certain, I mean certain-cert. The reason you can't get sober or get off that, forget sober, the reason you can't get off the lean is because there are opioids. And if you do it every day for longer than five to seven days, you don't have it anymore. It's got you. So physically, you need it.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
Of course, because you're a baby at 15. But why wasn't she living at home with her parents and you?
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
Because if you don't have it, you're going to get sick. Violently sick. You know that, right? Yeah. Okay. You want to stop doing it? Yeah. Well, you know what I do for a living, right? I mean... What do I do for a living?
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
That's right. I get people off drugs. But anybody can get people off drugs. I keep people off drugs. That's the difference. So, you want to go into treatment today? Oh, you didn't see that coming, huh? You're on glue. What'd you think, man? I was going to let some guy in here dependent and sick, right? And just not go, oh, hey, see you later, dude. Good luck.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
You're going today. You're going to get well today. And you're never going to have to live like this again. Not ever. Not ever again. And as long as you don't pick up again, you're never going to need it again and you're never going to be a slave to it. Slavery ended in 1865. Okay? But you're a slave to drugs.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
Yeah. the best laid plans go completely awry okay your intentions are honorable you want to get off of it it's not your fault that you can't nobody can nobody because people who stop doing what you're doing cold turkey they can die
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
from the detox right and depending on how long you've been doing it and how much you're doing it okay that's going to tell you pretty much whether or not you're going to drop and i didn't ask you those questions yet but i don't need to you're going to be assessed okay by nurses and doctors and you'll be fine okay you'll be fine you got health insurance Really?
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
What kind of health insurance you got?
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
But the good news is, is you get to come to treatment anywhere you want.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
You're going to make me start crying. Fuck. Your grandparents proud of you?
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
You are? Yeah. Oh, you think you're moving on the 15th? That sucks. Huh? You're moving today. You're moving into treatment today. You ain't moving on the 15th. You said you want to go to treatment today. What?
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
You love her? Yes. She on the pills? She on the lean? No. She do any of that? Only smoke. Only smoke. How does she feel about it?
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
Smoking hot, right? Yes. Yeah, bro. You're going. You want to go. And you're going to go. You're going to have a good life. and we'll talk about it off air. We don't need to do this whole thing here, but you're going to go. You love it. You want a life, okay? Your grandmother is in love with you. Your girlfriend's in love with you, and the most important thing is you've got a child.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
Dude, you're missing it. You're missing it. The best time with my kids was between two and a half and six. You got another year that you're never getting back. You better be clear for that because you want to remember it. You really do. Okay. I mean, this is the best time of your life right now on my life. This child, when you're with this child, is there anywhere you'd rather be?
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
How often do you see your boy?
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
Really? God, that's so good. Where is he now?
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
If you're going to be here, you got to move her out.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
You cannot be away from your child. Sorry, man.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
Same mother. And do you have her the majority of the time or no?
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
Do not. You will never forgive yourself. And then you won't stop doing these opioids. And the reason you're not going to stop doing it is because it works. They call them painkillers for a reason. It works better on emotional pain.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
than it does on physical pain physical pain I take four Advil and two extra strength Tylenol and I'm as good as you can be right okay but for emotional pain the pain you're in and the pain that you're gonna be in if you do this that's what the lean is for the lean is for so you don't have to feel and fall apart I swear to God, dude. I'm wrong about a lot of things.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
Not if I'm opening my mouth about stuff like this, I'm not. But it's the only thing I know, so... If I wasn't good at this, I'd have no value at all. You know? You're not going to have to live like this anymore, I promise. You're not.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
Congratulations, bro. Congrats.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
Listen, there are a lot of people that hide the ball when it comes to financial literacy. I'm not one of them. It's one of the reasons I love talking to the underground rap scene. They have no clue about it. And I definitely, I'm begging to teach them. Because... I've made so many mistakes and I want to make certain that others don't make them because a lot of people don't come back from it.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
Now, I did, but I don't know if I'm lucky or gritty or resilient or whatever, but you want to be financially literate. Now, what I would do with my money, okay, is the first thing I would do is put it with a wealth manager. Okay. And they'll give you 5% in a special account, right? Something like that. Now that's not a lot of money, but think about it.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
Let's say you have a million dollars and you're making 5%. Okay, that is 50,000 bucks a year. And you're like, wait a minute, 5%, that's nothing. Excellent. However, you have to put your money away somewhere. Okay, that's generating interest until you know what to do with it. What would I do with it? I would start dollar cost averaging.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
That means put in a small amount of money every single month into index funds. So it would follow the NASDAQ and the S&P 500 and the Dow Dow. Okay. And these three different exchanges, when you put it in over time, now you're going to probably get like 11% over time. Yeah. But it compounds on itself. It compounds on itself. You got a phone? Yeah. Open the phone. Okay.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
It's called compounding interest. Right? And all that means is my money's working for me. I ain't working for it. Okay? And you leave it there. And you leave it there over time. This is money that you're putting aside. And if you're working, you're putting aside whatever you can afford. Now, it has to be at least 10%. Okay? If you make...
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
10 grand a month and you only need five uh five grand a month to survive okay you gotta put away 10% and save the rest for a rainy day taxes whatever okay but you have to put that money aside if you only need three grand a month okay then you have to put the rest away okay because you only want to spend what you need right okay this is so exciting Are you excited?
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
Hey, buddy. Add 10 years to that for a total of 40.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
Whatever. This is the way elegant men live. And you, sir, are an elegant man. I don't give a shit what fighting or how many violent exchanges you had. That's just part of what got you to right here, right now. And the only thing in life that matters is right here, right now. Because when you get to there and then, it's right here and right now, isn't it?
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
Off a million bucks and never putting in another dollar. Go find, go bust your, put a million dollars in dollar cost average on those three things. Every month you put in more money. Okay? And just forget about it. Because this is history. This is the history of our country. It ain't changing. Okay? That's what you want, big boy.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
We definitely gonna... Now, what you want to do is you want to start working all the time. Putting as much money away as you can because time matters. You saw the difference between 20 and 30 years. It was $43 million. Now, your first 30 was only 22. How the hell for another 10 do you get three times? Well, the way you do it is it's the magic of compounding interest.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
So what you want to do is you want to If you've got 50 grand now, put the 50 grand in now and then just keep doing it over time. Because if you wait till you have a million bucks, it doesn't work. But just know that if it takes you three years to put aside a million dollars, just know that the clock starts ticking. Now the clock starts really ticking. And the good meaning, the 40 years starts.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
You're 24, okay? And you said that you wanted to leave something to your children, did you not? Yeah. Or was that the last episode? I mean... Okay. All I'm saying is you want to. You want to leave something to your children. And after you do that, I'll talk to you about generational skipping trusts. So that way...
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
Your child doesn't have to pay into exorbitant taxes and your grandchildren will have the money. And now all this bull stopped with you and you've got a new history to give to your family and leave behind. Because the only thing in the life, in our lives that matters, parents is making certain that our children are okay in the world when we're gone. and leaving this place better than we found it.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
So this was four or five years ago. Yeah. And you were 19. This must have just destroyed you.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
That's it. No violence. It's not necessary unless someone breaks in your house.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
I'm so much handsomer when people aren't wearing their glasses.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
That's exactly why I do this. Because you saw somebody you admired and you did that.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
But you're doing the same thing here. See, you're talking about your experience with drugs and how that doesn't serve you, how it's keeping you from being your best self, your highest self. And just like you were influenced by your buddy, These kids that listen to you are influenced by you.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
But yeah. Therapy done right is messy.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
So I don't know if you understand this, but there are kids out there because they're not viewing this for me. Nobody's viewing. Nobody's viewing this for me. They're here for you. Okay. And some of these kids are going to be like, you know what? That's cool. I'm not going to do that. Right.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
Yeah. Some people know. Thank you for that. I was very kind.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
Five, yeah. Five. Dude, you can't let your kids see you doing this. Nah, of course not. Let me tell you something, okay? This is a rule I learned not long ago. I mean, I'm slow, okay, but I get there. And I've been told for years this statement, and I blew it off. If there are people in your life that do not add value to your life, get rid of them. and truer words were never spoken.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
You want to go into treatment today?
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
If you're with people hanging out with people that don't add value to your life, cut them loose. The end.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
No, he was on Trank. Yeah. That's the zombie drug, okay? What happens is they have this... And by the way, it's not animal tranquilizer. Let's just get that clear. It's not there to tranquilize the elephant. It's there to put the elephant down. It's meant to kill elephants, okay? That's what your grandfather was using. A drug meant to kill an elephant. Damn. Yeah, people don't understand that.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
Now, let me explain something to you. They take fentanyl and they take this elephant tranquilizer, which is why they call it trank, and they shoot it. And then they lean over like that with rigid arms and they're just like their knuckles are dragging on the ground. And then it's a flesh eating drug because the other wasn't fun enough. So there's more.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
And you get these holes in your arms or in your legs, like big, like a baseball.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
And then what they do is they take it and they shoot it in that. And you can see the bone. And Narcan doesn't work on it. It doesn't work on it. Okay. That's why it didn't work. Okay. And he's lucky to be alive. He's beyond lucky to be alive. Yeah. At the time. But you know what the sad part about it is? Yeah. He woke up and he wanted to do another hit immediately. Do you know why?
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
Because what feels the best is getting as close to dead as humanly possible without dying. How scary is that? that's what feels the best. So he, he was as close to dying as humanly possible. Woke up that feel the best, like, okay, time for another. And everybody else in the room is like white and like this and just freaked out. And he's fine.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
Cause you know, it's like, you know, when somebody walks into a room, lights the match and walks out and then everybody's like, that's what happens. He's fine. He left the room. Okay? Everybody else that's witnessing this is traumatized. He has no recollection of that. None.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
Does your mother and your grandmother talk all the time?
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
Does your kids have a relationship with your mother?
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
She didn't abort you and she didn't leave you in a trash can.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
She looked at your mother, at your grandmother and said, I'm 15. You're my mother. I don't know what to do. And she gave her to your mother, to your grandmother. She did the best she could. She was 15.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
She couldn't, I mean, the chance of her doing that would be zero. Okay? I mean, no chance. A 15-year-old doesn't know how to take care of a child. It just, that's the way it is.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
You are the best time ever. These days, man. You really are. Okay. Where can people reach you? Where can people find you?
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
Last question. What's your favorite song that you've done ever?
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
And one that did the best. The one that you personally love that also did very, very well.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
Which one do you want us to play on the outro of this episode? Or is there one that you're pumping? A new one that you're going to pump. That's probably the way to go.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
We're out of time. Please subscribe on YouTube. Click the thumbs up and leave a comment. Please subscribe on Apple Podcasts and Spotify and leave a rating and a review. And share the We're Out of Time podcast with others you know who will get value out of it. See you next Tuesday.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
Well, let me ask you a question about the violence. Okay, because I just want to be clear. He taught you to be violent. Did he teach you to be violent, or did he teach you how to survive the community?
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
Thank you for listening to the We're Out of Time podcast with Richard Tate. If you haven't already, please follow the podcast, rate, and review. And if you're getting value out of We're Out of Time, share it with someone else you know.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
But bro, you don't have, you don't display any of that. You're like gentle and kind and I don't see it.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
Xan, man. Nice to meet you. We have been trying to get you on for a while. Okay? You are on our wish list. Okay? I thought you were Little Xan. I thought Little Xan was Xan Man. But it doesn't matter anymore because I've got both the Xans. And if there's another Xan Dylan, I want that Xan too. Okay, I want all the zans. All the zans. All the zans. So, man, tell me about your upbringing.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
It was, when I tell you, it was something so dumb. No, that was beautiful what you did. So tell me, you just made something beautiful. You said, no, they didn't deserve it. Yeah, they didn't. So what was it? You were, you were. All right. Tell me the story. Hold on a second. You've already done the time for it, right? Yeah. Okay. Now you can tell me.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
And because you were a rapper, you got along there because they dug what you did.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
Yeah. So let's talk about that. You doing well right now? I hear you're one of the biggest deals there is.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
What are you doing with your money? I don't see any ice around your neck, so that's a good sign.
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
Now, if you ever wanted to know the moment I fell in love with you, it was now. Okay. So, so, so where's the home that you bought?
We're Out of Time
I Was Raised By My Grandmother To Avoid Street Life
Tell me where it all started. Tell the viewers the story.
We're Out of Time
A Trajectory To Success With Rapper Warhol SS
It never gets old. If you or a loved one is struggling, we have a number that you can call and we'll help you find the best treatment that is right for you. Our company, One Call Placement, is dedicated to helping you and we'll find the best treatment that is right for you. So call now at 888-808-6159. Again, that's 888-808-6159.
We're Out of Time
A Trajectory To Success With Rapper Warhol SS
We're out of time. Please subscribe on YouTube. Click the thumbs up and leave a comment. Please subscribe on Apple Podcasts and Spotify and leave a rating and a review. And share the We're Out of Time podcast with others you know who will get value out of it. See you next Tuesday.
We're Out of Time
The POWER of Helping One Homeless Person at a Time! The Story Of Rema Mays
This was very hard for me to make public. But the woman that you're going to meet, Rima Mays, is the blessing of my life. And the reason I'm introducing her to everyone is because I have a hard time believing that we allow people to live like this. I don't think anybody should have to live like this. We can all sponsor a homeless person. It's not hard and it's not that expensive.
We're Out of Time
The POWER of Helping One Homeless Person at a Time! The Story Of Rema Mays
Yeah, exactly. Because I remember.
We're Out of Time
The POWER of Helping One Homeless Person at a Time! The Story Of Rema Mays
What you said to me exactly, verbatim, is, Mr. Richard, I was just wondering It's all the same with you and you're willing to pay the money that you're paying at Podshare. I think I'm ready to live on my own now. And if we fall short, I'll just sell more peanuts.
We're Out of Time
The POWER of Helping One Homeless Person at a Time! The Story Of Rema Mays
And I said, go find your place. That is perfect. I've been waiting for this call.
We're Out of Time
The POWER of Helping One Homeless Person at a Time! The Story Of Rema Mays
And I remember you telling me that some people didn't even get back to you. They just take the money.
We're Out of Time
The POWER of Helping One Homeless Person at a Time! The Story Of Rema Mays
You lived in Tuscaloosa, Alabama?
We're Out of Time
The POWER of Helping One Homeless Person at a Time! The Story Of Rema Mays
And I called you every maybe three weeks, a month. And I asked you how it was going. And that's what you told me, right?
We're Out of Time
The POWER of Helping One Homeless Person at a Time! The Story Of Rema Mays
And then you told me, do you remember what you said? You said... They've been taking my money and they don't even call me back. So I just gave up.
We're Out of Time
The POWER of Helping One Homeless Person at a Time! The Story Of Rema Mays
Remember?
We're Out of Time
The POWER of Helping One Homeless Person at a Time! The Story Of Rema Mays
And then what you don't know is I said, don't worry, I'll take care of it for you. And I called Farley into my office and I said, find this woman a place to live right now, please. And I asked him every couple of days for two weeks. And then I screamed at him and I'm like, what is going on here, man? Okay. He goes, they're not calling me back. So then I said, I will deal with it.
We're Out of Time
The POWER of Helping One Homeless Person at a Time! The Story Of Rema Mays
Hold on a second. Krista, go grab me my Alabama crescent tide. Roll tide. Roll tide. Now, in 2019, when you get here, what do you do? Where are you living?
We're Out of Time
The POWER of Helping One Homeless Person at a Time! The Story Of Rema Mays
I called these people and they didn't call me back. Not once. I must have called 10, 15 places like in an hour. I just bang, bang, bang, bang. Not one return call for a week. So then it hit me. The light went on and I said, oh, this is how poor people get jerked around. And then I thought to myself, oh, okay. So I picked up my phone and went through my contacts and
We're Out of Time
The POWER of Helping One Homeless Person at a Time! The Story Of Rema Mays
And I called my buddy, Jeff, who owns a lot of buildings. And I told him about you and I said, I need a place. And he said, Rich, I don't have anywhere. Okay. In these areas. Cause I wanted you close to me. Right. And she didn't have anything. And he said, but don't worry about it. Your problem is my problem. And I'll have something for you by the end of the day. And he showed me three places.
We're Out of Time
The POWER of Helping One Homeless Person at a Time! The Story Of Rema Mays
And one of them was in Century City, right across from the mall. And you're about a nine iron from my lawyer, Kevin, one of my best friends. And so I knew I'd be able, if God forbid there was an emergency, he could run right over, right? Or Farley could, or I could. And he found me that place. Did you know about the place before we took you there?
We're Out of Time
The POWER of Helping One Homeless Person at a Time! The Story Of Rema Mays
You didn't, right? Good, because I didn't want you to know about it. And what Farley and I did was we went and we got all the furniture, right? The bed and the side table. Do you have side tables? Bed and side tables. The couch at the end of the bed with the coffee table. The TV. The desk and the chair. We got you a computer.
We're Out of Time
The POWER of Helping One Homeless Person at a Time! The Story Of Rema Mays
Okay. We're done with that.
We're Out of Time
The POWER of Helping One Homeless Person at a Time! The Story Of Rema Mays
I want you to know that. If I need somebody's right arm, I'm taking his. Okay.
We're Out of Time
The POWER of Helping One Homeless Person at a Time! The Story Of Rema Mays
So much. Got a good grip on you.
We're Out of Time
The POWER of Helping One Homeless Person at a Time! The Story Of Rema Mays
I've got resources. Okay. Hold on one second. See you next Tuesday. All right, we're done today.
We're Out of Time
The POWER of Helping One Homeless Person at a Time! The Story Of Rema Mays
Okay, we're done for here. This is too much.
We're Out of Time
The POWER of Helping One Homeless Person at a Time! The Story Of Rema Mays
We're out of time. Please subscribe on YouTube. Click the thumbs up and leave a comment. Please subscribe on Apple Podcasts and Spotify and leave a rating and a review. And share the We're Out of Time podcast with others you know who will get value out of it. See you next Tuesday.
We're Out of Time
The POWER of Helping One Homeless Person at a Time! The Story Of Rema Mays
I'm sorry, you stayed on Federal and Wilshire?
We're Out of Time
The POWER of Helping One Homeless Person at a Time! The Story Of Rema Mays
What does that mean, a seasonal shelter?
We're Out of Time
The POWER of Helping One Homeless Person at a Time! The Story Of Rema Mays
I don't know. They'll give you one season there. You get three months there.
We're Out of Time
The POWER of Helping One Homeless Person at a Time! The Story Of Rema Mays
Carts. So it's like, it's like this big, wide, and it's got this little thing like this, like a,
We're Out of Time
The POWER of Helping One Homeless Person at a Time! The Story Of Rema Mays
With a bunch of different heads so people can stand up at the same time to do it?
We're Out of Time
The POWER of Helping One Homeless Person at a Time! The Story Of Rema Mays
Like a locker room for a football team.
We're Out of Time
The POWER of Helping One Homeless Person at a Time! The Story Of Rema Mays
Where'd you go after that?
We're Out of Time
The POWER of Helping One Homeless Person at a Time! The Story Of Rema Mays
So... I remember the day that I spoke to you and the day that Danielle sent me that picture of you, where were you sleeping then?
We're Out of Time
The POWER of Helping One Homeless Person at a Time! The Story Of Rema Mays
How often did you stay outside?
We're Out of Time
The POWER of Helping One Homeless Person at a Time! The Story Of Rema Mays
A week?
We're Out of Time
The POWER of Helping One Homeless Person at a Time! The Story Of Rema Mays
Your phone wasn't working then. It was turned off. Because I remember I called you.
We're Out of Time
The POWER of Helping One Homeless Person at a Time! The Story Of Rema Mays
I asked Danielle, let me just back up. So I'm sorry. It's just, you know, I love you so much that to even think that you spent one night on the street is so much for me.
We're Out of Time
The POWER of Helping One Homeless Person at a Time! The Story Of Rema Mays
Hey, you're never going to have to do that again.
We're Out of Time
The POWER of Helping One Homeless Person at a Time! The Story Of Rema Mays
Not ever. Amen. So, You were staying on Podshare and then one day you were on the bus bench with all your stuff. And what happened?
We're Out of Time
The POWER of Helping One Homeless Person at a Time! The Story Of Rema Mays
So, Rima, how long, sweetheart, were you homeless? Well, before we get there, okay, what I want to talk about is you were born in Alabama.
We're Out of Time
The POWER of Helping One Homeless Person at a Time! The Story Of Rema Mays
The next day.
We're Out of Time
The POWER of Helping One Homeless Person at a Time! The Story Of Rema Mays
And you lived in Alabama all your life.
We're Out of Time
The POWER of Helping One Homeless Person at a Time! The Story Of Rema Mays
She sent me the picture with no explanation. And so I called her right back and I said, what is this? And she said, it's just a picture I wanted to send you. I said, does that woman have a phone? And she said, yes. I said, give me her phone number. She went to you and gave and got your phone number and gave it to me. And then I called it and it was out of order.
We're Out of Time
The POWER of Helping One Homeless Person at a Time! The Story Of Rema Mays
So I called her back and I screamed at her and I told her to tell you to wait there. And if she wasn't at my house in a half hour to lose my number, And when she got there, I gave her some money. I don't remember what I gave her.
We're Out of Time
The POWER of Helping One Homeless Person at a Time! The Story Of Rema Mays
How long were you in Alabama for?
We're Out of Time
The POWER of Helping One Homeless Person at a Time! The Story Of Rema Mays
Honey, I didn't give anybody a thousand dollars. I gave her more than a thousand dollars. And I said to her, I said, I think I gave her two thousand. And I said to her, I said, find this woman a place to live and let me know where she's at. And she didn't know where to go, did she? But you knew where to go.
We're Out of Time
The POWER of Helping One Homeless Person at a Time! The Story Of Rema Mays
And then what happened?
We're Out of Time
The POWER of Helping One Homeless Person at a Time! The Story Of Rema Mays
And her wife's name is?
We're Out of Time
The POWER of Helping One Homeless Person at a Time! The Story Of Rema Mays
Okay. Those two women, they're married, right? And they've got a child. And I think they've got another child now. Really? I think they do. These two women are the greatest human beings on the face of the earth. Yeah. The best. Yeah. Podshare. P-O-D-S-H-A-R-E. And that's where people stay.
We're Out of Time
The POWER of Helping One Homeless Person at a Time! The Story Of Rema Mays
Okay. And then when you left there, when you left Alabama, where, Mobile? Mobile, Alabama? Where were you? What part of Alabama?
We're Out of Time
The POWER of Helping One Homeless Person at a Time! The Story Of Rema Mays
Everybody loved you there.
We're Out of Time
The POWER of Helping One Homeless Person at a Time! The Story Of Rema Mays
That's what she said. Everybody. That's what she said. If somebody doesn't love you, the problem's them.
We're Out of Time
The POWER of Helping One Homeless Person at a Time! The Story Of Rema Mays
So that must have been what? I know how long.
We're Out of Time
The POWER of Helping One Homeless Person at a Time! The Story Of Rema Mays
Two and a half years.
We're Out of Time
The POWER of Helping One Homeless Person at a Time! The Story Of Rema Mays
You were perfect. That's called a bracket.
We're Out of Time
How Tim Medvetz Turned Pain Into Purpose | The Heroes Project
Tim Medved's, founder of The Heroes Project, joins the We're Out of Time podcast.
We're Out of Time
How Tim Medvetz Turned Pain Into Purpose | The Heroes Project
I did it. Thank you for listening to the We're Out of Time podcast with Richard Tate. If you haven't already, please follow the podcast, rate and review. And if you're getting value out of We're Out of Time, share it with someone else you know.
We're Out of Time
Lil Xan: A Recovery Story YOU won't belive!
Do you know anyone who's died of fentanyl?
We're Out of Time
Lil Xan: A Recovery Story YOU won't belive!
Yeah, I can't hear this shit. It's too much for me. So you've got a lot of followers on Instagram, right? Yeah, like 4 million. 4 million. Okay. So that's legit famous. Yeah, yeah. Especially in your little thing.
We're Out of Time
Lil Xan: A Recovery Story YOU won't belive!
What size stadium? How many people could, if you put on social media right now, hey, I'm playing at this thing. It's free. Come out tomorrow night. How many people would show up?
We're Out of Time
Lil Xan: A Recovery Story YOU won't belive!
Was there, did these fans or anybody on social media have any impact on your decision to get sober?
We're Out of Time
Lil Xan: A Recovery Story YOU won't belive!
Have you ever been afraid that maybe being so open about, um, your drug addiction and your recovery, that maybe that's going to, that you're going to be identified with that more than your music?
We're Out of Time
Lil Xan: A Recovery Story YOU won't belive!
Yeah. Let me ask you a question though. Yeah. How many Xannies were you on that day? Oh, probably 10. Okay. Yeah. Probably 10. Maybe. Yeah. It was a Xanny thing.
We're Out of Time
Lil Xan: A Recovery Story YOU won't belive!
But, you know, only. They're the normies. Yeah.
We're Out of Time
Lil Xan: A Recovery Story YOU won't belive!
I don't even have the words. In my age group, there's really only two rappers. Only two. Tupac and Biggie. Legends. And then it goes to Andre 3000 came out. Yeah, I love Andre. He was dope. First guys I ever listened to was Run DMC.
We're Out of Time
Lil Xan: A Recovery Story YOU won't belive!
Yeah. what did you say about... Oh, the Tupac. Yeah. You said he was boring. Oh, I might've said he was boring. But you understand that when you hear this man's voice.
We're Out of Time
Lil Xan: A Recovery Story YOU won't belive!
Like his voice is so cool. Yeah. When he started singing, chicks just dropped their pants.
We're Out of Time
Lil Xan: A Recovery Story YOU won't belive!
Thank you. Because it's important to know the room.
We're Out of Time
Lil Xan: A Recovery Story YOU won't belive!
Yeah. Okay. Sometimes I get depressed and I get anxious. Yeah. And I know how I get through that. Okay. The way I get through it is when I get scared, I run right through it. I mean, I don't walk through it. I don't lean into it. I just run right through it because... I don't ever want to feel like a coward. That's the worst feeling in the world to me. Yeah, that's a horrible feeling.
We're Out of Time
Lil Xan: A Recovery Story YOU won't belive!
So I get afraid all the time. It's completely normal. But the way I deal with it is I just run through it. Just face it head on. I have to.
We're Out of Time
Lil Xan: A Recovery Story YOU won't belive!
face a problem head on excellent how how how are you going to get there this year what's your plan Man, that's a good one. That's the only question.
We're Out of Time
Lil Xan: A Recovery Story YOU won't belive!
What plan? You want it, you want, you want to- Exercise.
We're Out of Time
Lil Xan: A Recovery Story YOU won't belive!
Okay, then that's not a therapist. I'm the finest drug and alcohol treatment facility in the world. Some people think, you know, I'm the expert in this field, okay? I see my therapist three times a week. Yeah, that's how it's supposed to be. Today. Yeah. As we sit here today, okay, with all I've got going on, I still see my therapist three times a week. And there's a reason for it.
We're Out of Time
Lil Xan: A Recovery Story YOU won't belive!
It's not something I have to do. It's something I get to do. It is the ultimate luxury. It is how responsible people deal with their stressors. Because here's the thing. If your stress is here... Your support, your therapy must always be ahead or greater than your stressors because now you're safe. Now you're safe. Okay? Yeah.
We're Out of Time
Lil Xan: A Recovery Story YOU won't belive!
Okay. And you smoke pot. Yes. Cali sober. A hundred percent. Cali sober. Well, Cali sober means you don't drink. You just smoke. Oh, really? Well, I'm, I'm, uh, somewhere in the middle there. Yeah. That's okay, bro. You know what the thing is, is, you know, The Xanax was creating wreckage for you, right? Oh, yeah. Okay. And we'll get into that. The pot, I don't really have an opinion on. Okay.
We're Out of Time
Lil Xan: A Recovery Story YOU won't belive!
Otherwise, what happens is you start creating wreckage and you become uncomfortable. And you and I don't do uncomfortable. Oh, yeah. Okay? If we're uncomfortable for long enough... Okay. We have to drink and use. We have to. That's how you and I are wired. Yeah, I agree. Okay. You need a therapist three times a week, man. If you want to get to where you want to get to and you want to blow up.
We're Out of Time
Lil Xan: A Recovery Story YOU won't belive!
Okay. And you want to live your best life. that's the way to do it. Yeah. I'm definitely going to get there. I still want, I still think it's beautiful that you're going to wake up every morning and meet your body.
We're Out of Time
Lil Xan: A Recovery Story YOU won't belive!
Okay. You need a man to teach you certain things and to walk through life with. Yeah. Okay. It's really important, man. And anybody who thinks that's weak, they're weak. Exactly. I agree. Because they don't know better.
We're Out of Time
Lil Xan: A Recovery Story YOU won't belive!
Well, that's cool, bro, because nobody wants to hear from me. They're here for you today. Man, I am so grateful that you came here today to share your experience and how you've come out the other side just beautifully, man. I am so grateful to you. Thank you so much. Likewise. Very grateful and blessed to be on. I appreciate you. Cool. My listener is going to really appreciate it. Hell yeah.
We're Out of Time
Lil Xan: A Recovery Story YOU won't belive!
Look into that camera bees and say, see you next Tuesday.
We're Out of Time
Lil Xan: A Recovery Story YOU won't belive!
I consider it to be- Gateway drug? No, no, no, no. I consider it to be like a medically assisted treatment. Okay. Right? So that's not a problem for me. I just want you to be aware of the drinking, right? Because here's my experience. Yeah. Your first drink's fine. But somewhere in that second drink, halfway through, three quarters through, whatever it is, it happens. Mm-hmm.
We're Out of Time
Lil Xan: A Recovery Story YOU won't belive!
Oh, you started... That buzz hits, right? Yeah, yeah, that buzz hits. Yeah. Right? And when that does and you're feeling good, it affects your decision-making. Yes. And then you're out to buy...
We're Out of Time
Lil Xan: A Recovery Story YOU won't belive!
What was the most difficult moment in your journey trying to get sober?
We're Out of Time
Lil Xan: A Recovery Story YOU won't belive!
Well, it just affects your decision making. It just, you know, that's why people get in a car and they run into a family of four or whatever, you know. I agree completely. And so, if you can be honest with yourself, right? Yeah. And make certain that when you're feeling it, right, because you'll get away with it. The first, I mean, I got away with it maybe a hundred times. Yeah. Okay.
We're Out of Time
Lil Xan: A Recovery Story YOU won't belive!
It is tricky, but here's my fear. Okay. One of the reasons or the reason I decided to do this podcast because of the fentanyl. Epidemic. Yeah, it's horrible. It's horrible. It's horrible. And, you know, Xanax, you ain't going to a damn pharmacy. You just said it. You called your plug.
We're Out of Time
Lil Xan: A Recovery Story YOU won't belive!
Well, yeah. 70% of them have fentanyl in it. Yeah. So it's not if you're going to die, it's when you're going to die. When, exactly. Tell me about your family, dude. Do you have brothers, sisters?
We're Out of Time
Lil Xan: A Recovery Story YOU won't belive!
All right. Little Zam. How's it going, man? How you doing? Doing good. This coffee is really good too, man. Thanks for coming today, bro. I really appreciate it. You came from Temecula? Yeah, Temecula, the faraway lands of Temecula. That's three hours. You're going six hours round trip?
We're Out of Time
Lil Xan: A Recovery Story YOU won't belive!
So it's when you're out with people and somebody commits a felony like that, you're all responsible.
We're Out of Time
Lil Xan: A Recovery Story YOU won't belive!
What's your relationship like with your parents right now?
We're Out of Time
Lil Xan: A Recovery Story YOU won't belive!
So I was homeless for a little bit, not long, but I was, and I heard that you were, is that correct?
We're Out of Time
Lil Xan: A Recovery Story YOU won't belive!
So- I want to talk about, first thing, your name. Yeah. Lil Xan. It's crazy.
We're Out of Time
Lil Xan: A Recovery Story YOU won't belive!
What was the most difficult moment in your journey trying to get sober?
We're Out of Time
Lil Xan: A Recovery Story YOU won't belive!
Dude, you're so lucky because... Nobody stays sober like that anymore. Yeah. Nobody gets sober like that anymore. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I've always done, with every treatment center I've ever had, I've always had the same policy. Slow and steady. Yeah. No suffering. I had a guy who was just here. He had eight milligrams of Xanax that he was using for 20 years. That's the tolerance he built.
We're Out of Time
Lil Xan: A Recovery Story YOU won't belive!
We went down in the first 30 days to two and a half. That's amazing. Right? So we didn't go down the whole way. We just went down slow and steady. It would have been stupid to go down the whole way. It took us another 30 days because it's harder at the end to go from two and a half to zero. And then- He stayed another 30 days on top of it because his head was foggy.
We're Out of Time
Lil Xan: A Recovery Story YOU won't belive!
Because you're walking around like a... Like a zombie. And you've got a fog in your head. Yeah. And you've got all these thoughts and then you try to say them and the words don't come. Yeah.
We're Out of Time
Lil Xan: A Recovery Story YOU won't belive!
You know, a lot of people try to get sober and you've tried four times. Yeah. Yeah. Probably more. Yeah. I've tried probably 300 times. I mean, I was just a wreck disaster. Yeah. Have you had any setbacks this time?
We're Out of Time
Lil Xan: A Recovery Story YOU won't belive!
Yeah, without pills. Yeah, dude, you would have been dead for sure.
We're Out of Time
Lil Gnar: How I Overcame Depression And Found Happiness
We're out of time. Please subscribe on YouTube. Click the thumbs up and leave a comment. Please subscribe on Apple Podcasts and Spotify and leave a rating and a review. And share the We're Out of Time podcast with others you know who will get value out of it. See you next Tuesday.
We're Out of Time
Lil Gnar: How I Overcame Depression And Found Happiness
We're overwhelmed with gratitude. We're out of time has reached number three on the Apple podcast mental health chart. Thank you for listening, supporting, and sharing this journey with us.
We're Out of Time
Lamar Odom's SHOCKING Sobriety Journey
See where and how we can make some money. Um... Meditate. I don't work out as much as I should. How often do you work out?
We're Out of Time
Chef Boy Bonez Reveals His True Self
Yeah, for sure. For sure. Have you ever been so messed up that your eyes popped out accidentally? Never.
We're Out of Time
Chef Boy Bonez Reveals His True Self
Where are they getting it? Are they getting it from physicians? Are they getting it on the street?
We're Out of Time
Chef Boy Bonez Reveals His True Self
Does it? Yeah. I mean, if you create that pressure and get in the bloodstream faster. Yeah. And that was a ride of lifetime.
We're Out of Time
Chef Boy Bonez Reveals His True Self
I feel like I went on a trip listening to that story. Yeah, tell me to do acid again after that. So you said you were 13 when you smoked weed, and then when did it lead to other stuff?
We're Out of Time
Chef Boy Bonez Reveals His True Self
Is that bad or good? That's great. That's cool. I love her to see me in my element. Yeah, I'm sure she is. So the question was, what... Like what age and what led next from just doing weed at your 13th birthday?
We're Out of Time
Chef Boy Bonez Reveals His True Self
That's a long time from when you first smoked weed at 13. That's four years.
We're Out of Time
Chef Boy Bonez Reveals His True Self
Yeah, I got a son, man. That's a dope name for a kid. That is a good name. Yeah. Julius. Julius.
We're Out of Time
Chef Boy Bonez Reveals His True Self
So you're 19, done with her. Where are you at drug use wise by that time?
We're Out of Time
Chef Boy Bonez Reveals His True Self
Did you, was, at what point in your life were you thinking to yourself, like, this is a problem? Like my use is a problem. Or did you never think that?
We're Out of Time
Chef Boy Bonez Reveals His True Self
Yeah, but you've never been to rehab and you've never been to AA.
We're Out of Time
Chef Boy Bonez Reveals His True Self
It's interesting. You know, the idea like I've used drugs, but I'm not an addict, like somebody who treats addicts and is around addicts all day. They do not possess that power. Once they are hooked, they are hooked. Right. There is no, because I know me, like I'm not an addict. I can have one beer and that's it. I'm not sitting there thinking I need five or six or 10 or 12.
We're Out of Time
Chef Boy Bonez Reveals His True Self
And I'm just not an addict. I could smoke one cigarette and that would be it. Right. But it is addictive. It is, people are powerless. You know, bro, you're a serious guy. Do you ever feel like people may not see you as the serious man that you are because of the iPod thing?
We're Out of Time
Chef Boy Bonez Reveals His True Self
I just lost my mother and father in 14 days. Oh, man. I'm not going to tap my face, but maybe I'll. Condolences, man. That is a great story. That is a recognition of self and worth, right? Yeah. Like, I'm doing this. They're keeping me down. They're keeping me down. I'm going to do my own thing. I'm going to do my own thing. And that's what I did. That's the American dream.
We're Out of Time
Chef Boy Bonez Reveals His True Self
It is the American dream. And everybody has it in them. That is the best story about the use of YouTube that I've ever heard. That is cool. The internet, the internet to change a life. Yeah. If you utilize it the right way, I can't stop watching them. I want Kenny on from now on. I think he said, yeah, everybody good story in the comment section. Let us know if you want,
We're Out of Time
Chef Boy Bonez Reveals His True Self
said from 17 years old to 33 bro you know just living in the valley is enough living in the valley is enough to get you doing drugs yeah i mean it's it's you don't know what it's like growing up in the valley man i grew up right next to him in encino okay it is the karens in the valley are just non-stop All the people who are pissed, they don't live in the city. That's essentially what it is.
We're Out of Time
Chef Boy Bonez Reveals His True Self
kenny here out every week and don't anybody say i suck and he's better than me because i already know that all right um all right let's uh what what what do you want to talk about what do you want to plug what are you doing i want to support you in anything you're doing uh definitely tune in to all the great uh
We're Out of Time
Chef Boy Bonez Reveals His True Self
So is there a song that you own, not that you had on a label, not that somebody else wrote or has any ownership in at all? Is there a song that you have that you'd like us to play for you on the outro?
We're Out of Time
Chef Boy Bonez Reveals His True Self
That's so good. It's scary. What's scary? It scares me. I don't know why. I'm glad it scares you. I have you here. I got it. I'm the straight man. I'm glad it scares you, man. It's so nice to meet you. Thank you. Thank you for having me. You're the best, bro.
We're Out of Time
Chef Boy Bonez Reveals His True Self
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Oh, and it feels like the center of the sun in the summer. Yeah. Like I literally, you get out of the car and you want to cry. That's how bad it is. Right. Right. Right? Right. I can agree with that. Dude, I got so spoiled being here in Santa Monica and in Malibu. Oh, man. Like you come from the city. Mm-hmm. There you go broke here because they come here for this.
We're Out of Time
Chef Boy Bonez Reveals His True Self
This weather is people. They come in just for the weather, just for the weather, just for the weather. That's right. So you have like in this day and age as an adult making music and out there and you have a friend who's buying, say he thinks he's getting a perk on the street. Is there any feeling of like this could kill me? It could have fentanyl in it.
We're Out of Time
Chef Boy Bonez Reveals His True Self
I might get it might be laced and I could die.
We're Out of Time
Chef Boy Bonez Reveals His True Self
If you're doing the perks or any opioids at all for longer than five to seven days, it's got you. You don't have it. Right. There's no more. You don't have a choice anymore. Right. And you have to probably get medical help. Absolutely. So let me ask you a question. Do you know any friends? You have friends who have died of fentanyl. Yes. Okay.
We're Out of Time
Chef Boy Bonez Reveals His True Self
Just speak about one of them, about what it did to their parents or their family structure, because it destroys families. Yeah. It completely destroys. So I want to hear a little bit about something, if you know, about the pain it caused the people left behind.
We're Out of Time
Chef Boy Bonez Reveals His True Self
Chef, thanks for coming by, man. I really appreciate it. Thank you for having me. Thanks, bro. So let's get right to it. You're in the rap scene, the underground rap scene. You got a lot of friends. You guys are doing that whole thing, right? Yeah, I'm a rapper. I'm in the industry. Okay. You see a lot of drugs, press books.
We're Out of Time
Chef Boy Bonez Reveals His True Self
Okay. Um, you know, anybody who's suffering, uh, You send them over here. We'll find a spot for him. My treatment center, Carrera, is the finest treatment facility in the world. We're not getting anybody from the podcast. This is about just talking about drugs and the evils of fentanyl and how it's putting all of our children and our loved ones in harm's way. So that's all this is.
We're Out of Time
Chef Boy Bonez Reveals His True Self
Come on, man. Hey, God, can you fix that? That's exothalamus. What does that mean?
We're Out of Time
Chef Boy Bonez Reveals His True Self
It took a long time to learn how to do that. That figure will make your eyes pop out, though.
We're Out of Time
Chef Boy Bonez Reveals His True Self
Listen, all seriousness, nobody can go to Carrera. I mean, we've got 18 beds. They're full. There's a wait list. It's always full. It's always a wait list. But there's 18. It's never going to be more than 18. We've got affordable centers that people can go for like 250 or $500 for a deductible and do that. But some people don't even have that insurance. Right. And that's what I'm saying.
We're Out of Time
Chef Boy Bonez Reveals His True Self
We've got this place called One Call Placement where you can call. Right? We don't get anything out of it. All we do is we find a spot for these people to get well, because if we can't help them and, you know, maybe we can help maybe 20% maybe of the people that call, the other 80% have to be referred out, you know? Yeah. We don't ever want anybody to feel like they don't have the money. Right.
We're Out of Time
Chef Boy Bonez Reveals His True Self
Okay? Because $165,000 is a lot of money. That's a Porsche GT RS, twin turbo. Is it? Yeah. Yeah. Hell yeah, it is. But it wouldn't bring your kid back if your kid died of a fentanyl overdose, right? It wouldn't bring your kid back. I have friends of mine who, like you, remain nameless, made a ton of money, hundreds of million dollars in investment banking. And...
We're Out of Time
Chef Boy Bonez Reveals His True Self
Sadly, my friend passed away, and then their son just decided on a whim that he was going to try a perk that was laced with fentanyl, and he died. Yeah. If they had had Narcan there, this is a year ago. Now, if you said to them, $165,000 a month, we'll take your kid and get him clean, Don't think for one second they would have done it knowing what the outcome might have been, right?
We're Out of Time
Chef Boy Bonez Reveals His True Self
I mean, no amount of money brings your child back. A lot of people don't know though, bro. A lot of people don't, they don't play through. They don't think it's going to happen to them and they don't want to part with the money. It's fine. Yeah, that's Steve, man. That's it. But they don't have to. That's the point. They don't have to because there's all these different levels of care.
We're Out of Time
Chef Boy Bonez Reveals His True Self
You don't have to pop for 165 clicks. Right. You know, if you've got a kid. Right. Okay. You know, that's for your wife. It's for you. Yeah. Okay. That's for your kid if you like them. Right? I mean, it's not for everybody, but everyone's got a place to go. And we got a list of everywhere we can send people because it's so hard, right? If you're calling on drugs, right?
We're Out of Time
Chef Boy Bonez Reveals His True Self
And you've got that moment of clarity, you've just called 10 places and gotten jerked around. You don't want to get sober anymore. Right. You want to get loaded because this is- Right. It's most crazy. Yeah. You know what I mean? Anyway, I want to ask you a couple of questions. Did drugs or alcohol ever play a role in your life? Yes. Tell me about it. Oh. The most recent?
We're Out of Time
Chef Boy Bonez Reveals His True Self
That's the Kickstarter. Go. You go. It's a main one. If you had to say like, this is what most people are doing.
We're Out of Time
Chef Boy Bonez Reveals His True Self
Yeah, for sure. Did it kill anybody? But I want to hear. So you said that because of that.
We're Out of Time
Chef Boy Bonez Reveals His True Self
Okay, but hold on a second. Let's see if he knows why. Why? Why did marijuana open? Yeah, why is the marijuana the gateway drug for you?
We're Out of Time
Chef Boy Bonez Reveals His True Self
Okay. It's very social. Let me ask you a question. Did you get high enough on the marijuana?
We're Out of Time
Chef Boy Bonez Reveals His True Self
That's the answer right there is the escape. That's actually a rabbi. who said that drug alcohol use is rooted in someone's uncomfortableness in self and whatever that's related to, be it trauma or, You know, family dynamics, whatever it is. Can you look back and say, like, I was escaping from a. Oh, yeah, for sure.
We're Out of Time
Chef Boy Bonez Reveals His True Self
One, what was the that that caused you to use to escape from? Is it anything you can talk about? Can you answer it with your eyes out? No, no. Yeah. That scared me. You know, you're running out the door. Don't do it again.
We're Out of Time
Jimmy Shin How Comedy Saved My Life And Gave Me Purpose
We're out of time. Please subscribe on YouTube. Click the thumbs up and leave a comment. Please subscribe on Apple Podcasts and Spotify and leave a rating and a review. And share the We're Out of Time podcast with others you know who will get value out of it. See you next Tuesday.
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
How do we erase the stigma around women who are pregnant coming into treatment?
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
Right. But I want to get back to that. I want to get back to the solution. I don't want to veer off.
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
Isn't it if you're not taking Suboxone at the same time every day with the same dose and you're taking it early, you're like walking around two-tenths high? Yeah.
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
So why is anybody using methadone?
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
Okay, but here's where I need the distinction drawn. If you've got somebody coming in, right? A mother who's pregnant coming in and she's taken, I don't know, 320 Oxycontin, right? A day, right? She's loaded and she's going to have a withdrawal if she's done it for any length of time, right? Why would you not...
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
detox her with the methadone, if that's the way you do it with other populations, isn't she going to, how do you assist, how would you assist that detox process with a pregnant mother?
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
That's an excellent point, right? So she's using, right, to not just stay high, but to keep from getting sick. That's the primary motivation. Of course, of course. So my question then again is, What do you use along with buprenorphine to detox this woman so that she's not suffering?
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
Because it would seem like, yeah, it's better for the baby, but it would have been better for the baby not to be using in the first place, right? So how do you assist this process?
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
Dr. Blair. Mm-hmm. Is that what you're experiencing with women who are showing and when you see them addicted to drugs, what's your experience around that?
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
They can't get off the couch. They can't get off the couch. The reason people use opiates a lot of the times, and the reason they're called painkillers is because they work better on emotional pain than they do on physical pain. And we're a depressive society. Income disparity is getting worse and worse. Uh, it's getting harder. Careers are not careers any longer.
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
Um, you're changing careers every three years. Now it's not like when we were kids and you could be, uh, you know, uh, whatever it is you were, you work at an auto plant. Okay. For 30 years or with a pension, right. With a pension. And, you know, those days are over now, you know, the technology it's like every day, right. It's changing. So, um,
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
I want to get back, if you don't mind, I want to get back to the solution, okay, one more time, okay? Because we can either talk about it or be about it. And, you know, you're a big shot there, okay? How would it be received if we put an outline together that said, hey, look, when they come in like this, right? When a pregnant mother comes in and she's showing and or not, right?
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
But it's not going to happen if they're not showing in this case, chances are, right? So if she comes in, she's showing, right? She has an accidental overdose. She's in the ER. How do we get that? Blair in there right away, these centers that will take people for Medicare and Medi-Cal and Medicaid and Obamacare and all these insurances that...
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
treatment centers don't typically take so we put those in the in the portal she then refers gets them to pick them up or you guys transfer them right to the treatment center and we save a couple lives how how is that going to happen
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
Hold on a second. That's true. That's the first step. But they're not going to have. Wait, hold on a second. But they're not going to trust that. She's the one that gets the trust because not every doctor's like you. The patients that you have trust you because you're unusual.
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
We need somebody, a social worker, okay, who has the ability to connect and really love them and express to them how serious this is and that it's going to be okay and then make the transfer and stay with this woman until they actually pick them up. That is how I envision it. So how do we get that done? Will the people be receptive to that?
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
But you're talking about the person, right, that actually has the wherewithal to come in and check on the baby. And that happens all the time because you're seeing it. I'm specifically talking about the woman who is overdosed or med seeking and going into the ER. Right. And that woman is like the baby is an afterthought. Right. Right.
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
And so what I'm saying is, is there a way procedurally, right, to work it out with the hospital, right, to actually have this policy so that we can save the masses? I know what you're going to do. Right. But you're one of one. Right. OK, where I want is a policy that they have to follow every single time this happens. Is there a way to listen?
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
I don't care if you're going to shame these administrators or shame the hospital system. That's OK.
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
OK. How do you incentivize them?
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
Right. I'm always looking for the punishing program.
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
Can we get the opposite? Can we get them incentivized for every one they send to treatment?
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
You know, the insurance companies, OK, are all about outcomes now.
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
Right. It would seem that insurance companies would have a horse in this fight. Right. I know that's wrong.
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
What is the horse in the race? Yes. A dog in the fight. Right. Both of them. Both of them are good. Right. It would seem that they have a self-interest issue. In getting this transfer to treatment to prevent the ongoing med seeking in the ongoing survival.
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
No, but I get it. No, I get it. But it's basically, it's not so much anecdotal. It's more or less field research for you, right? So that's the ticket right there. That's the ticket.
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
Yeah, but I think it's $250 for a wrongful death. Yeah, but they don't care. I like the fact that the CEOs of these insurance companies are making between $30 and $50 million a year, right? And they're doing it based on...
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
you know gains quarter over quarter year over year and i think that this is something that would be genius for certain companies they'll all jump on but you have a sigma or an etna or anthem or whoever it is some stud walks in and says no no this is the policy right here okay and you know everybody jumps on the bandwagon right so if you took it from a
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
Especially when they show up to treatment pregnant showing. Yes. Because there's so much judgment around it.
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
And that is, we're educating OBGYNs right from the gate, right? So that they understand what these protocols are and they can identify the med seekers and the people who are overdosing and addicted. Is there a way to do that?
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
Yeah. Because, you know, a lot of doctors are desensitized to the process of helping another.
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
This is for you. Because I've spoken in a lot of these psychological universities, right? Wouldn't the seniors or the people who are about to graduate that have to do their hours, right? And they get out, they've got to do their hours. Wouldn't it be great? And they're altruistic at that point, right? Right? They're on fire. So they come out, they're trained in this, right?
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
They go ahead and they do you and their hours are actually signed off on by the hospital, right? That seems like, you know, a cost effective way to do it for everybody and really the best way.
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
And these people are on the way out, right? This is something where, you know, they've got like what an 80 year life expectancy.
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
That was my idea to deal with the homeless issue, right? Just you get one guy, it's the Pied Piper, right? They, 25 of them follow this guy because this isn't something that you can teach, right? I mean, I guess it is if you, see, the problem is normally you can video yourself and, but you can't in the homeless population, right?
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
Because if you're doing it that way, these people get creeped out and they don't want it. Right. So that can't happen. But if you walk around with coffee and breakfast and whatever, sandwiches, whatever it is, socks, jackets, blankets, whatever it is, and you're of service and you have the conversation and you can pull a couple people off the street a day and put them somewhere.
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
You know, it's magic, right? I mean, that's how I envision this, right? You go in and you have, you know, I've seen the doctors walk in. You've got four guys in tow, right? And so same thing here. You know, you walk in, you've got four of these trainees, these people straight out of school. They come on in, they see how you do it and they branch out.
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
And the next thing you know, they're training and they don't have to do a bunch of hours. They can do, you know, a hundred hours of this and then become proficient. And they grab their, the next four, each one grabs another four and you can make a difference in a whole hospital in like, you know, three, four months. Yeah. Right. And these hospitals are all chains now. Right.
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
And then they go to the next chain and the next chain, like you're at Memorial, that chain. Right. They're like the third biggest in the nation, aren't they? Okay. I mean, you could do that. These could be positions. And in every major city, you've got these psychological universities. Right. And think about it. These people are such good. Most of the people that go in to be a therapist. Right.
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
Right. They've got good souls, right? Right? There's a good soul industry. Yeah, sure. I mean, can you imagine? That's not a hard sell to get them to, you know, take care of babies and mothers. That's not hard at all.
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
That's right. At least.
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
All right. What else we got? This has been so productive. I don't even know what to say. I'm so grateful that the both of you came today. Thank you. I really am.
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
As you guys know, my name is Richard Tate. I'm the founder of Carrera Treatment Facility. And I call this podcast, We're Out of Time. And the reason I do that is because we actually are with this fentanyl crisis that we're having. I mean, the opioid epidemic has been going on for a while, okay? But now it's killing everybody with fentanyl. And
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
But you got to take the first step in on anything. So if it was easy, everybody would be doing it. You guys just got to drag these people across the goal line.
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
It's hard to start it. It is. It's hard to get people in power to get on board, okay? And you really have to give them the credit, right? And you just have to be, you know, hey, man, you almost have to talk to them and make it their idea, right? Right? Oh, true.
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
That is politics to a T. I do not need credit. Credit is for politicians.
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
Yeah. So guys, thank you so much for coming. I just, before I leave, Kenny, how can they find you? If anybody needs you, how can they reach you?
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
Blair, how can they find you?
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
Outstanding. Thank you, guys. Oh, you were going to fact check me on something.
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
How long have you been doing this, Kenny? 30 years.
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
Did I get that right? Yeah. Okay. All right, guys. Thank you so much.
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
Yeah, it's ridiculous how women, it's funny, I had somebody bring in my dry cleaning, right? A woman bring in my dry cleaning and it cost three times more for her than it cost for me, right? And they do that in mechanics too. Like women get the short end of the stick. Hairstylists. Everything. Yeah, women get the short end of the stick everywhere.
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
How do we go ahead and erase the stigma around women who are pregnant coming into treatment?
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
you know, when you were back in the day, when you were scoring cocaine or heroin or pills off the street, it wasn't, you, you thought you were getting it, you know, you were getting the Percocet, you were getting the heroin, you were getting all these drugs today. That's not what you're bargaining for. Okay. It's being laced with fentanyl. It's killing about, um, 112,000 people a year, right?
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
People are getting fat shamed all the time.
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
In the medical community.
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
You know what it is? They come in. I think you get pregnant if you're going to carry it to term, right? You... There's a part of the mama bear inside of you, right? And it's protective and right. And so then what happens is they feel such shame, right? That they're not coming to you in the first place.
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
And so really what we got to do is we've just got to, it's got to be the same exact thing that we did to erode substance use disorder in the first place, which is you're not bad. You're just sick, right? right? And now, like you said at the beginning, it's affecting more than just you. And what scares me the most, why you're here, is because I'm a father.
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
And when you're as old as I was when I had kids, you don't just love your kids, you love all kids. And I'm passionate about this opioid epidemic and specifically the fentanyl thing. It's causing more homeless, which I'm also passionate about. And if I see another child on the street in an encampment, I'm going to snap, right? I see that all the time.
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
But this is so bad because they're being born with birth defects, right?
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
But when you're five, six months showing and you're already in the grips of addiction in the first place, right? How do we make it so that we can draw the distinction between, oh, you just found out that you're showing. This is different. Now this is going to affect your baby. She's going to be born or he's going to be born or they're going to be born addicted. And the withdrawal is painful.
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
And I assume that sometimes that results in a fetal death, right?
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
So how is it in a hospital setting? How can we get like somebody like Dr. Blair in there so that the second on the first time they come in, right? They meet with somebody like you and you sit down with them and you connect one-on-one and you, you know, give them the reality of the position they're in and how to deal with it. Maybe refer them to, you know, a treatment center, right?
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
And it's increased 30-fold over the last 10 years. And most of it has been in the last five since I've been gone. And one of the reasons I came back was because of this. This is Dr. Blair. She's a psychologist. Fantastic. She's been doing this for about 20 years. This is Dr. Kenneth Spielvogel, one of the finest women's physicians in the city. And let's start with Dr. Spielvogel. Good morning.
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
Isn't that something that a hospital administrator would be open to?
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
Wrong question, man. Wrong question. Nobody wants treatment. Okay. The only thing harder to sell than treatment is adult circumcision. I'm not even kidding. Swear to God. It's the hardest thing.
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
It's called a moment of clarity. Okay. If you don't take her right there, if you can't transfer her right there to a treatment center, that moment passes like a cloud just goes, right? So. Is there an apparatus? You're a teaching doctor there. They revere you. Okay.
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
Is there a way that maybe something like that can be put into place that somebody who's skilled like Blair can meet with them one-on-one? Mm-hmm. Right. And then you make the referral right away to wherever you think is appropriate. And there'll be like a transfer portal. Right. We know of those things. Right. Transfer a referral portal. Portal. Right.
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
And so you take that, you look into it, you do your assessment of where is appropriate for her. Right. And you you arrange for the pickup. Right. And she's transferred immediately.
We're Out of Time
What Happens When Pregnant Women Seek Substance Abuse Help?
Well, that's what this is about. It's about solutions.
We're Out of Time
AD: PURE Creativity And Not Getting Lost in Todays World
We're out of time. Please subscribe on YouTube. Click the thumbs up and leave a comment. Please subscribe on Apple Podcasts and Spotify and leave a rating and a review. And share the We're Out of Time podcast with others you know who will get value out of it. See you next Tuesday.
We're Out of Time
AD: PURE Creativity And Not Getting Lost in Todays World
Thank you for listening to the We're Out of Time podcast with Richard Tate. If you haven't already, please follow the podcast, rate and review. And if you're getting value out of We're Out of Time, share it with someone else you know.
We're Out of Time
Jay Mohr Overcoming Victim Mentality & Checking Ego in Addiction Recovery
Right, totally. Do you see how excited he got when he was discussing the pills?
We're Out of Time
Jay Mohr Overcoming Victim Mentality & Checking Ego in Addiction Recovery
That was so good.
We're Out of Time
Jay Mohr Overcoming Victim Mentality & Checking Ego in Addiction Recovery
Dude, that's so good. That's so good. At 22, you must have just been like so wide-eyed. I was insane. That's so good.
We're Out of Time
Jay Mohr Overcoming Victim Mentality & Checking Ego in Addiction Recovery
Do you like, one of my favorite things, because I haven't seen Saturday Night Live in years. It's good right now. I did watch... the last couple years. I love that, the thing that Dennis Miller used to do with Michael Che and- Colin Jost. Yes. When they write each other's stuff. Oh my God, it's amazing. It's the best thing I've ever seen. Man of steel, S-T-E-A-L.
We're Out of Time
Jay Mohr Overcoming Victim Mentality & Checking Ego in Addiction Recovery
It's all about a big RB sandwich. They did it again this year. And she was like this.
We're Out of Time
Jay Mohr Overcoming Victim Mentality & Checking Ego in Addiction Recovery
No. He's a cool guy. Yeah, I would love to meet him. He's really cool.
We're Out of Time
Jay Mohr Overcoming Victim Mentality & Checking Ego in Addiction Recovery
George Carlin. Me too. Who is your second favorite comedian?
We're Out of Time
Jay Mohr Overcoming Victim Mentality & Checking Ego in Addiction Recovery
I love when you do Christopher Walken.
We're Out of Time
Jay Mohr Overcoming Victim Mentality & Checking Ego in Addiction Recovery
That's how I wake up in the morning. Yeah. I've got him on my phone. Saying what? Exactly. Richard, you got to get moving. Get up. Your employees, they're not gonna yell at themselves.
We're Out of Time
Jay Mohr Overcoming Victim Mentality & Checking Ego in Addiction Recovery
I didn't, my buddy did it for me. My buddy, how did I get him to do it?
We're Out of Time
Jay Mohr Overcoming Victim Mentality & Checking Ego in Addiction Recovery
Player, the most famous person I've ever had in my house is you. That's not true.
We're Out of Time
Jay Mohr Overcoming Victim Mentality & Checking Ego in Addiction Recovery
Your son forgets that he is. The best scene he's ever done was in True Romance. Do you remember that scene?
We're Out of Time
Jay Mohr Overcoming Victim Mentality & Checking Ego in Addiction Recovery
Let me ask you a question. Have you known anybody who's died of fentanyl? Fentanyl overdose?
We're Out of Time
Jay Mohr Overcoming Victim Mentality & Checking Ego in Addiction Recovery
Don't care. The only far you get when you play it forward, when you're using, is you think about the detox and you're like, uh-uh, I'm going to keep using. I mean, that for me, if you play this, if you play it forward, you can only think as long as I'm running out of drugs, I'm going to come down. Right? So I better keep using drugs.
We're Out of Time
Jay Mohr Overcoming Victim Mentality & Checking Ego in Addiction Recovery
I mean, for me, you know, every time I played it forward, I was thinking, you know, I'm gonna be suffering.
We're Out of Time
Jay Mohr Overcoming Victim Mentality & Checking Ego in Addiction Recovery
You don't get the bell ringer. Okay. You don't get the bell ringer, but you get that. So you're a lot more, you know, you're going to paint the house.
We're Out of Time
Jay Mohr Overcoming Victim Mentality & Checking Ego in Addiction Recovery
You've done remarkably well. Like you were doing, you were always functioning, right? I mean, you were 22 years old. You were doing drugs the entire time. I was drinking, drugs were like 2000 teens. But you still came out the other side beautifully. I mean, you've got a great wife. You've got great kids. Oh, now for sure. You've got great recovery.
We're Out of Time
Jay Mohr Overcoming Victim Mentality & Checking Ego in Addiction Recovery
You've got great relationships with a bunch of guys. Talked to one this morning, Tim, right? Just a wonderful guy. Tim Ryan's my boy.
We're Out of Time
Jay Mohr Overcoming Victim Mentality & Checking Ego in Addiction Recovery
That's the only way is through a commitment. If you don't have a contract with yourself to go when you don't want to go and to do what you don't want to do and push through it, you can't stay sober if you're an alcoholic like me. If you come in surrendered already, right? anybody can get you sober, okay? Because you've already surrendered.
We're Out of Time
Jay Mohr Overcoming Victim Mentality & Checking Ego in Addiction Recovery
You're willing to do anything and everything to stay sober.
We're Out of Time
Jay Mohr Overcoming Victim Mentality & Checking Ego in Addiction Recovery
Handsome Tuesday.
We're Out of Time
Jay Mohr Overcoming Victim Mentality & Checking Ego in Addiction Recovery
All right. In your best Chris Walken voice, will you please look into this camera and say... You're out of time.
We're Out of Time
Jay Mohr Overcoming Victim Mentality & Checking Ego in Addiction Recovery
Explain that. And he can feel that way because it works for him. Right. Okay? And his life depends on it, so he's got to think that way. Okay? But... A lot of it comes from our early childhoods. Well, for sure. Right? And that's an external thing. And, you know, in AA, they talk about how, you know, our parents did the best they could, right? Even if they didn't.
We're Out of Time
Jay Mohr Overcoming Victim Mentality & Checking Ego in Addiction Recovery
You have to say that in order to codify it in your brain. But what happens is, so for example, you're five years old. Now, remember when you were five, you were little. And everybody was big. Remember? Okay. So if you have your father going, shut up, I'll give you something to cry about. And he smacks you or he hits you with the belt or in my case, the cane with the brass handle, right?
We're Out of Time
Jay Mohr Overcoming Victim Mentality & Checking Ego in Addiction Recovery
It's like, you can't formulate the thought, my parents are idiots. Because... your frontal cortex isn't developed. And not only that, but you're like, if these people don't love me, if they're the ones that have me, what am I supposed to do? I must be bad. You can't say anything other than because your frontal cortex isn't developed, I must be bad. And if you're bad, okay,
We're Out of Time
Jay Mohr Overcoming Victim Mentality & Checking Ego in Addiction Recovery
Every time you get disappointed, every time they hit you, every time they say, shut up, are you stupid? Or whatever they say, it reinforces itself. And pretty soon you're a 45 year old man You know, and your five-year-old self is running a 45-year-old man. And that's what I, but that doesn't make you a victim or for me, it doesn't make me a victim.
We're Out of Time
Jay Mohr Overcoming Victim Mentality & Checking Ego in Addiction Recovery
Hi, everyone. Before we dive into this great podcast with Jay Moore, I wanted to talk about something urgent. The fires in Los Angeles have been devastating and displaced so many, including those in treatment. If you or someone you know needs treatment during these horrific times, please call us. With our company, One Call Placement,
We're Out of Time
Jay Mohr Overcoming Victim Mentality & Checking Ego in Addiction Recovery
And the reason it doesn't make me a victim is because I can say, okay, that's what happened Okay, I'm the adult now, I'm the parent now, and I'm not gonna be a victim. And the genius is that you figured that out and you stopped lying to yourself. And once you can get that, It works. But the thing about AA is it's always the same. And it's my foundation, man. I'm not sober today without AA.
We're Out of Time
Jay Mohr Overcoming Victim Mentality & Checking Ego in Addiction Recovery
I'm not. Okay. I don't have kids. I'm not, you know, none of it. I mean, I've been given a life, right? But The problem sometimes with AA is they feel it's the only way. Everybody's an expert on their own sobriety. And they have to believe that way because their life is dependent on it. So I understand it.
We're Out of Time
Jay Mohr Overcoming Victim Mentality & Checking Ego in Addiction Recovery
Dude, I was so, this is the household I was brought up in, and you'll be able to tell exactly why it turned out the way I did.
We're Out of Time
Jay Mohr Overcoming Victim Mentality & Checking Ego in Addiction Recovery
Yeah, he just had to beat the shit out of his tweens. That's all.
We're Out of Time
Jay Mohr Overcoming Victim Mentality & Checking Ego in Addiction Recovery
I must give you a lashing now. Oh my God, it was so bad. Where'd you grow up? In Encino, which is, again, scarring, right? Yeah. I can't even drive through the valley, man, without having anxiety. Yeah, it's the world's biggest consolation prize.
We're Out of Time
Jay Mohr Overcoming Victim Mentality & Checking Ego in Addiction Recovery
That's pretty good too. It's an island for a reason. My parents would put all three of their kids in the car after they feathered our hair. and they put us in the same outfits. Like I remember this jean outfit from head to toe with all these studs all over it. So we were like- I wanted this family. We were props. Feather hair and denim. Right? And then-
We're Out of Time
Jay Mohr Overcoming Victim Mentality & Checking Ego in Addiction Recovery
They put us in the... I was thinking... No, no, no. It's horrible. They put us in the Jew canoe and they roll up the windows and they're smoking, chain smoking Marlboro Reds while their three minor children are in the car asphyxiating. And I'm Jewish. So you would think they'd be like against that, right? Asphyxiating their kids. And...
We're Out of Time
Jay Mohr Overcoming Victim Mentality & Checking Ego in Addiction Recovery
Then the only time they opened the windows because my mom had this big pompadour, right? It was spray and wasn't moving. They rolled down the windows to throw the McDonald's, the poison that they were feeding their kids out on the freeway. So these are my parents. And that's the good part.
We're Out of Time
Jay Mohr Overcoming Victim Mentality & Checking Ego in Addiction Recovery
We will have people actually help you find the right treatment center for you. Please don't wait. We're out of time.
We're Out of Time
Jay Mohr Overcoming Victim Mentality & Checking Ego in Addiction Recovery
That's too good.
We're Out of Time
Jay Mohr Overcoming Victim Mentality & Checking Ego in Addiction Recovery
I gotta stop you for a second.
We're Out of Time
Jay Mohr Overcoming Victim Mentality & Checking Ego in Addiction Recovery
Because I've been dying to know something, okay? This is like really, like you had a bucket list, this is mine. Tell me about the tire iron, okay? That's all I care about.
We're Out of Time
Jay Mohr Overcoming Victim Mentality & Checking Ego in Addiction Recovery
It is. When we're older, it's scary.
We're Out of Time
Jay Mohr Overcoming Victim Mentality & Checking Ego in Addiction Recovery
No, I got my ass kicked all the time.
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
Now I heard that, but wait a minute, let's go back. You were in jail from 18 to 19. Yeah. Right. And then you immediately started to continue to do drugs until what age did you go into the sober living home? Until I was 28. Okay. So you lost nine years. Yeah. Just lost them. They're gone. Yeah. Nothing positive during that period of time. Yeah. Not moving up in your career, not nothing.
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
Straight to heaven. All right. How'd you get to the recovery center?
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
And then you had this internal compass to where you knew intuitively, I feel the pull, so I'm going that way. I go against what feels not good to me anymore. That's what I'm hearing. I'm just not going to go in the direction any longer that doesn't feel clean to me.
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
So you were genuinely remorseful. You genuinely had a spiritual experience in that. Nobody's going to believe it. I believe it a thousand percent because it's happened to me on many occasions. But go ahead and try to tell that to the average guy on the street. They look at us like we're insane. Right. Um, that's a beautiful story. Tell me about where you met your wife.
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
Cause I see that you, you always say, well, my wife and I, right. It's not you. It's, you know, you've referred to this as family business. Um, It's clear you're in love with your wife. How'd you meet your wife? At church. I met her at church. Okay, I swear I saw that coming.
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
We would take them into the recovery homes. So you'd go pull people right off the street and put them in recovery homes. How could you pay for it? How were you able to afford to give these people the care that they needed?
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
So there was no red tape. The church was just like, go bring these souls to us and let's care for them. That's exactly right. And you had other people. Dude, you're going to make me start crying. I don't even know what world I'm living in anymore.
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
And I just beat the hell out of myself all the time because I can't do more. We can afford three people for free at a time to take care of, right? But it just, it never feels good, man. Anytime you leave someone behind, it never feels good. You know, that's why I love this church thing.
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
And when she was passing, I put her in this place and I went to see her that day. And she says, Richie, I don't want to be here. I want to be at home. With my family, I said, of course, I didn't know better. And I went in to the woman who owned the place and I'm like, look, I need all this stuff at her house. Oh, well, you've already paid for this and it costs more to be here.
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
And I'm like, hey, I didn't ask you for anything back. We're freeing you up a room. Good for you. Just get her back home and we're going to have all this stuff there. Okay. She's like, no problem. So she's going to go the next day. And this chaplain comes in and he's talking to this woman. And Lydia just looks at me while he's in mid-sentence. And she says, I don't know this man.
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
And I'm like, come on, please, please. And she listens to him for another 10 seconds. And she looks at me and she goes, I don't know this man. And he looks at me and he says, well, what does that mean? And I said, that means thanks for coming. So I showed her, so I showed the guy out and I'm like, what do you want from me?
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
He's in a church in the valley. I don't know where it is and I do not know his name, but that's the man I want to see. So I'm like, no problem. I'll figure it out, honey. And I walk out of the room and I go right into the stairwell and I just start crying. Like, where am I going to find this guy?
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
That is part of Mexican culture for sure. Yeah. That is the one thing. I was doing workers' comp law back in the day. And I was representing 16,000 Hispanics. Okay. It was rare where we did an MRI on somebody and didn't see anything.
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
So it's been five years already. Every year, this man gets the same letter and a thousand dollars.
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
He was a godly man. And that's the difference. He would have said something to me like, I'm sorry, man, I can't do it because I got to prepare for this talk or that. Dude, you don't have to prepare for anything. Okay, what comes out of your mouth is what God wants out of your mouth. Get over here. And he did it.
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
That's faith. Dude, I would have gone and grabbed him. That guy was coming. He had no choice. He just didn't. Put him in the van. He didn't know. He didn't know he had no choice. That guy was coming. Hop, tie him, throw him in the van. For sure. That's what I'm talking about. No, no. I would have duct taped him to a coffee table and just lifted the coffee table, put it right in the van.
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
Yeah, that was a good man. All right. I appreciate you coming on the show and telling me about your story. Why? I mean, I'm grateful. Don't get me wrong, because it's what we do here. We're the redemption show, and you're a great story, fantastic story. But why here? Why did you decide to do this for us today? I believe in timing.
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
discs that were bulging or wow it was rare and they never said anything and the reason they never said anything is because the feeling is if i'm not hurt then i'm not really working that's that's the mindset that's the mindset yeah very now if you if you disrespect them in any way, shape or form, now you got a problem. Okay. But physically they're working with busted backs and everything.
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
Dude, every day. From every woman I've ever been with.
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
Did you get arrested when you were a kid? I was. Did you go to jail? I did.
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
I didn't ask you if you were someone's girlfriend in jail. It's like I asked you if you went to jail. Drugs in jail usually go together. Yeah, yeah. Methamphetamine, man. That's, you are a miracle that you walked. How long did it, it must've taken you at least a year to two years to clear your head. Two years. Yeah. Two years.
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
Are you really?
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
That's from the hood. That's, that's, that's not from the drugs. That's from, that's from, that's environmental. Okay. Yeah. That's, that's growing up with your head on a swivel. You know, you ain't parking next to a van. Right. Right. You were on a show called Flip or Flop. That's where I started. Yes. Flip or flop. Okay. And there were two other main characters on this as well.
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
A guy named Tarek and somebody else. Christina. Christina and Tarek. Yes. And they were married. They were the talent. Yes. They were married. Okay. And then they got divorced. Yes. But they still stayed on the show. They still continue to make flip or flop. Okay. Yeah. And now they're no longer fighting. No. And they're like best friends. Co-parenting. Best friend co-parenting. Yeah. Right.
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
So they love each other, their family. Like they got to the other side of it. Remarkably. Yes. Now I hear that people are having a problem with that. Like they're not in this stuck in this Jerry Springer ask white trash nonsense, right? That they're actually created this evolvement, this environment that is beneficial to the children, right? Who's having a problem with this?
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
Season one came out. And so this was about... But this was already when they got to the other side. Once they got to the other side. But the ratings must have been through the roof when they were arguing. Right? Because everybody- Don't people love that? People love the train wreck, don't they? Yeah, they love the train wreck, man.
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
And so the ratings were through the roof and now they're loving each other. And how are the ratings? Ratings are great. Really? Yeah. They don't need like an antagonist to walk in and stir up some nonsense? Well, you'll still have a little bit of that in this show, right? You'll still have a little bit. Who's that guy? Who's the shit disturber? Yeah.
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
So yeah, that's, that's their, that's their MO. That's, that's the thing. Yeah. So you had that example of the father who did that. So you knew how to work.
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
And she's got a better man now? She's got a better man. She's got another man? She has another guy. And he's got another woman? He has another woman?
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
Yeah. Heather. Yeah. He's already got kids. These guys just don't miss a beat. It's like next up. Who's on deck, who's in the hall, right?
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
Tell me where it came from. Tell me where it came from. It came from your name, Izzy Does It. But where did that originate from? Izzy.
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
1980s gangster rap. So how old are you? I'm 52. Okay. So we're kind of in the same thing. Yeah. He made a song called Eazy Does It. Really? Eazy Does It. Yeah. Nice. Go hit that track later on. Make sure there's no kids around. I don't think you can play that on the outro, right? We got hammered for that. Yeah. What do you call that? Copyrights. Yeah. Copyrights. Weak. Okay. Can't even play that.
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
What I really want to know is, yeah, Flip and Flop was the first show that made you famous. Flip or Flop. Yeah. What's it called? Flip or Flop. What did I say?
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
worst. Thank God for editing.
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
I'm so bad at this. I suck so bad. He's thank God for him. This is so horrible.
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
When you did Flip or Flop, that, you know, your first show, it made you famous. Dude, what's it like to be famous from not being famous? I mean, I just like that when the light hits and you're like, oh shit, I'm a thing.
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
Oh, Taylor Swift. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She's famous. That's what I think. Right. Okay. But the Pope's nowhere near as famous as Taylor Swift.
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
Right. Yeah. Right. So if we're not, so if you're not a Taylor Swift, you're nobody.
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
Did you do my, did you do my what? Do you, do you do my lawn? Where do I know you from? That's so good. Do you know if I would have said that I would have been canceled. Okay. But you know, actually I can't be canceled. Tell me about the new show and your family. And it's called what? The Kardashians? The Kardashians. Yeah. That's exactly what it is.
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
Do they start it off with you and a hammer making big rocks into little rocks?
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
That's so cool, man. It is cool. There's nothing cooler than that because you teach your kids how to fish, man, and they don't ever have to worry about anything. See, that goes back to what we were talking about at the beginning about the grit and, you know, you're actually showing them how to do this. That is so cool. You know,
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
Tell me about what your daughter's doing because I'm so fascinated by it. I love the fact that you're working with your daughter and she's doing the social media stuff because you could have gotten anybody to do that, right? But nobody's ever going to do it for you like your baby girl.
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
And then she's in love with her daddy. So nobody's going to be the cheerleader for you the way your daughter will be.
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
Right. Or she's. In all fairness, we don't know. We don't know. How would we know? Yeah. I mean, you get a like, and you're supposed to be like this. Really? What would be the one piece of advice you would give somebody who is struggling with drugs and alcohol?
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
I'm scared about that, though, man, because, you know. 10 years ago, I'd say, yeah, absolutely. You're a thousand percent correct. Now I'm scared. I'm on the fence because, you know, all the street drugs have fentanyl in it. Yeah. Now 70% of them, right? So people are dying or these accidental overdoses. So I get scared. I don't, I, I try to talk them out of that, out of that last run.
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
It's the street. The street drugs are killing everybody. If you're not getting prescription drugs from a pharmacy- or weed from a dispensary, you're dead. It's not if, it's when. And that's the part, that's why I'm so grateful that you're here, man, because people love you.
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
His dad was drug dealing. He can't say it.
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
People just love you, you know, and this is powerful, especially in your community because you know how, how it is in your community. Very proud. Okay. Never want to look bad. Right. Okay. Embarrassed that you have a child like this.
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
right who's struggling and you can't save your ass and your face at the same time that that's impossible you have to choose you know yeah i think you become you you have to become vulnerable right for sure you and that takes humility and um
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
Yeah. Well, the good news is, is that if you're not humble, you get beaten into a state of reasonableness.
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
Yeah. So you get there, whether you're that humble guy or you're not. What keeps you grounded these days? I know the answer. It's going to be perfect. But what keeps you grounded these days?
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
Oh, so these are both the kids she brought into the marriage. Yeah. You're like Kenny. You're exactly like Kenny. My ex's boyfriend loves my children every bit as much as he loves his own.
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
No, there are eight houses up the street with my ex-wife, who is my best friend, okay, in the world, okay? I'm like her 67th best friend. But I don't care. She's my best friend. And her man is the closest thing I have to a brother. I mean, he's like, I love him more than anything. Wow. Because I've never met a man ever this good. And his name is Kenny. Yeah. All right. Dr. Kenneth Spielvogel.
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
He's Jewish. I got a Jew baby doctor, but it doesn't get better than that. Okay. And he's sitting there right with my kids. My kids got a sniffle. I'm good. Wow. Uh-huh.
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
Yeah, so you guys are making it work. Making it work. Everywhere I'm weak, he's strong. Everywhere I'm strong, he's weak. We're like the perfect man together.
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
Absolutely, man. Absolutely. You know how people say it's good to be gotten, right? It feels that's part of the attraction. When you meet somebody, you guys get each other. Okay. There's a quality of that in therapy, right?
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
Are we ready to make news? Yeah, let's do it. All right. Give me something newsworthy that nobody knows.
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
I heard that it was rated in the top 10 of all HGTV shows.
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
If you can go back and talk to your younger self, what would you say?
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
So I've got a friend in the other room who is a huge fan of yours. Her name's Karen. Do you mind if I ask her to come in and ask you one question? Is that cool?
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
That's awesome.
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
Hey, man, nobody's got more patience than you. You are a patient, kind soul. Thank you for coming. I appreciate that. Thank you. How can people find you? Hey.
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
I'm scared of how I'm doing it with my kids. I like the way your dad did it with you, you know, because you're too soft with your kid. Yeah. I mean, but he's, he's a good kid. Right. So it's like, what am I, I'm just scared about grit and resilience. Right. Like we have it because we had to. right? It, it scares me. You know, there's this guy came on here. His name is, what's his name? Shin.
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
What's his first name? Jimmy Shin. Okay. He's a, a world renowned comedian. And he said, Tough times make strong people. Strong people make good times. Good times make weak people. Right? Weak people create hard times and on and on. And so it scares me sometimes. I don't know if I'm getting it right or not.
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
Is that like the carrot and the stick? Yeah. There you go. Cause I don't know if I want to get hit with a rod or a towel. Like, like is the towel wet?
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
Wow. You're farther along than I am and you're working with your daughter. And so that's a good sign. Like when your kids want to work with you, you raised them right. So, but you got along good with your parents, right? Oh yeah.
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
So you mentioned facing addiction early on. What was that chapter like in your life? Um...
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
I just stopped. I love that you said that. I love that you said that because it is fun. It starts off all fun. Then you graduate to fun with problems and then you graduate to all problems. Sorry, I interrupted you. I just love the honest.
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
Yeah. Yeah. You got to check her past, my man. Yeah. Smoking PCP is the real thing. Back in the hood, it was so inexpensive.
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
Izzy. Yes, sir. Thank you for coming today. This is a big deal. And I'm very grateful to you. Well, thank you for inviting me out here. And I was looking forward to this. Yeah. All right. So I want to go through a little story for the people that may or may not know who you are. Tell me about your childhood.
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
It was. Dude, everybody loves you. Everybody's shocked right now. Right? Yeah. The next thing you know. Listen, it's not like he has a ice cream truck parked in front of his house. Okay. It's come on. This isn't the worst thing in the world.
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
Wow. That is a good man. He was willing to go to any length. Do you know his name? I don't know his name. He's a star.
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
Really? Yeah. They wouldn't let somebody who was convicted, right? Convicted, yeah. Of armed robbery. Was that what it was? Strong arm. Strong arm robbery. Well, you would think that's kind of like what we want in our soldiers, no? No. There's a little bit of violence. Yeah. We want our soldiers violent, but we don't take violent people into the military. Yeah. Can we get back to common sense now?
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
I mean, it only sounds stupid when you say it out loud, right? It does. It does. Okay. All right. This is okay. So you spent time in a recovery home. Mm-hmm. How did that come about?
We're Out of Time
Rock Bottom to HGTV: Izzy Battres' Journey of Faith and Redemption
How long were you doing that for? 10 years? Yeah. You're unusually clear. Yeah. Normally when people do meth for that long, they never make it back. They don't have that clarity and the presence and the connection that you have. They're all over the place. So with...
We're Out of Time
Meet the Youngest Radio DJ In History with an Inspiring Story Shadoe Stevens
as part of your um well that's what you would give a lot of credit to the way you feel and walk through life right now with it i don't see you struggling through life is what i'm trying to say i see you colliding through life based on the work and the maintenance that you do all the time i wish i could say that it was gliding um
We're Out of Time
Meet the Youngest Radio DJ In History with an Inspiring Story Shadoe Stevens
Before we get to the step work, tell me about the benefits.
We're Out of Time
Meet the Youngest Radio DJ In History with an Inspiring Story Shadoe Stevens
Well, thank you. Yeah, it's good to be here or anywhere for that matter. Let me ask you a question, man. You were such a massive success. One of the biggest voices in America. How did drugs and alcohol fit into that? And were you using while you were working or was it just an off the clock thing?
We're Out of Time
Meet the Youngest Radio DJ In History with an Inspiring Story Shadoe Stevens
Yeah. Everybody just got a doctorate on what it's like to be really self-care. That's what that is.
We're Out of Time
Meet the Youngest Radio DJ In History with an Inspiring Story Shadoe Stevens
The public sees them as horrifying. But when we sit in a room in AA and we're listening to this, we're hysterical.
We're Out of Time
Meet the Youngest Radio DJ In History with an Inspiring Story Shadoe Stevens
Life is good. I always tell that to people. I always say, and everybody does, but it's the truth. If it was a better deal to get loaded, then I would be loaded. You know, in AA, we both love AA. I love AA. But I haven't been in 20 years. I haven't been. I said something the other day in a room full of doctors and psychologists.
We're Out of Time
Meet the Youngest Radio DJ In History with an Inspiring Story Shadoe Stevens
They were saying something, I don't remember what they were talking about, but I said, look, unless you can give someone a life that is better or more valuable than the life they had when they came into treatment, they can't stay sober forever. The end. Yeah. And, you know, a lot of those people were in AA and they didn't like what I had to say.
We're Out of Time
Meet the Youngest Radio DJ In History with an Inspiring Story Shadoe Stevens
And they didn't like what I had to say because it wasn't one of the things that they've heard over the last 30 years in a room from a podium or from the shares. And I was like thinking to myself, man, The problem with alcoholics is that everyone who's sober thinks they're an expert on alcoholism and recovery, and they're not. They're only an expert on their own recovery.
We're Out of Time
Meet the Youngest Radio DJ In History with an Inspiring Story Shadoe Stevens
I learned. And it was intuitive. I learned the difference between AA and treatment before I got into treatment was when you walked into treatment, it was tough love. And when you walked into AA, whether they knew it or not, it was all love. Right? Because you walk into AA, it is the worst day of your life. No question. In that moment, you're a loser and your life came to this. Right.
We're Out of Time
Meet the Youngest Radio DJ In History with an Inspiring Story Shadoe Stevens
And you are full of nothing but shame. Yeah. And intuitively, these guys just knew, come on, get over here. Shh. you're going to be fine. I promise. And that's what I took from AA into our place because these people are so shame-based coming in that to kick a horse when they're down makes absolutely no sense to me at all. None. Love is everything.
We're Out of Time
Meet the Youngest Radio DJ In History with an Inspiring Story Shadoe Stevens
And I got that from AA because when I walked into AA, Nobody wanted me around. I was such an asshole when I got to AA because my model was so bad. I didn't have any friends. I had to make you feel bad in order to make me feel good. Polar opposite of what they teach us in the AA community. And one guy walked up to me and he said, hey, baby. I said, yeah.
We're Out of Time
Meet the Youngest Radio DJ In History with an Inspiring Story Shadoe Stevens
He said, you don't need to make that guy feel bad and make yourself feel good. You're perfect just the way you are. Come here. Gave me a hug, handed me a Cuban cigar. We smoked, bought me dinner because I didn't have, so poor I couldn't pay attention, right? A is the best thing that ever happened to me because I've got two children that I'm in love with, thank God, right?
We're Out of Time
Meet the Youngest Radio DJ In History with an Inspiring Story Shadoe Stevens
What would you say to parents today that have children that are using with the dangers on the street right now.
We're Out of Time
Meet the Youngest Radio DJ In History with an Inspiring Story Shadoe Stevens
Yeah. I tell people to seek treatment right away. I don't care where they get it. If they're younger and it's just started, I tell them to get a therapist right away. Okay. Once a week for their kid and once a week for their kid with the parent that they're most aligned with. Okay. Yeah, man, I'm scared. I'm scared. It's different now.
We're Out of Time
Meet the Youngest Radio DJ In History with an Inspiring Story Shadoe Stevens
You know, 15 years ago, you're having a conversation with me about this. I don't really care. You know, and I owned Cliffside because I didn't have a child yet. Second, you have a child, you know what love is, right? You don't know what love is before you have a child. You think you do, but you don't really know. Right?
We're Out of Time
Meet the Youngest Radio DJ In History with an Inspiring Story Shadoe Stevens
Do you have anything you want to say?
We're Out of Time
Meet the Youngest Radio DJ In History with an Inspiring Story Shadoe Stevens
That's such a great thing. I wish you nothing but the best and I can't wait till it comes out.
We're Out of Time
Meet the Youngest Radio DJ In History with an Inspiring Story Shadoe Stevens
The only person I've ever known who got fatter while on cocaine was Sarge.
We're Out of Time
Meet the Youngest Radio DJ In History with an Inspiring Story Shadoe Stevens
Everyone, I wanted to introduce you to somebody who I saw in probably one of my first AA meetings ever. Shadow Stevens, the legend, the voice of television and radio. When I was younger and just an absolute icon, man, like most beautiful voice, most talented man. Please stop, stop, stop. No more, no more, please.
We're Out of Time
Meet the Youngest Radio DJ In History with an Inspiring Story Shadoe Stevens
You know, it's like... Dude, he should do a commercial for something for us. Like, seriously, he's a genius. So go on. You don't understand what these commercials were like. I mean, at a time where, you know, you'd have my dad doing commercials, 993-9999, right? Custom craft carpets. And then the next on television would be this guy, Cal Worthington, and his dog, Spawn. So, and then federated.
We're Out of Time
Meet the Youngest Radio DJ In History with an Inspiring Story Shadoe Stevens
So those are the three commercials that you would see all the time.
We're Out of Time
Meet the Youngest Radio DJ In History with an Inspiring Story Shadoe Stevens
Socket circus. Well, this is obviously a case of artificial intelligence misdrive.
We're Out of Time
Meet the Youngest Radio DJ In History with an Inspiring Story Shadoe Stevens
I was telling you before this, you started talking to me and the only thing I could think of, I couldn't hear what you were saying. And the only thing I could think was, oh my God, he's got such a beautiful voice. And that is cute. So you kind of like a pretty girl, right? Like she can be as smart, as sharp as a tack, right? And you just can't hear her. So it's kind of like that. Sucks for you.
We're Out of Time
Xtsy - Sober Minded, Art Centered And Business Focused
I know it's funny. Right. No, that is so my fault. That is so my fault. I stand corrected. Keep it in though.
We're Out of Time
2KBABY's Journey Through Grief and SUCCESS!
Yeah, but you got to bite it down. When you bite it, bite it and pull. Now, don't bite the out of it like a botch. Like that. That's it.
We're Out of Time
Mattox: The Kid Who Went Viral and Shook the Game
Thank you for listening to the We're Out of Time podcast with Richard Tate. If you haven't already, please follow the podcast, rate and review. And if you're getting value out of We're Out of Time, share it with someone else you know.
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
Did you hurt anybody? No.
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
How long do you have sober now?
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
Okay. So it's three years ago. Yeah. I'm sorry. I interrupted.
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
I don't think so. It's hard to have a connection with your old man when, you know, there's not a meeting of the minds, you know, and I know that hurts.
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
And he said, who the hell was that guy in your car?
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
But that's not as funny.
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
Let's go. Really like him gone.
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
Now, this is a perfect example of friendship.
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
Do you shoot any of the animal tranquilizer?
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
There's definitely a way they can do that.
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
If I had a nickel for every veterinarian that I've treated, I'd be living in lower Bel Air. I'm not even kidding.
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
Lame. And now you realize that's what's cool changes. Yeah. Right? And those guys are all in either jail, prison, rehab, or mental hospitals. Or they peaked at 17. Or they peaked at 17.
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
When did you realize you could sign your own cards?
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
Do you know what's funny? Nobody figures that out. Nobody. And you people don't know what I'm talking about. Go on.
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
He's just checking to see if you're still single. This guy's 15 minutes are up.
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
How sweet of you to think that.
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
Did you ever go to rehab? You didn't. So it clicked. How did it click? Do you start going to AA? Do you have a therapist? What did you do to get the support to stay sober? You were drinking every day. Yeah. And Coke.
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
It's three and a half grams.
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
Is that 30 or 45 days for Lent?
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
We should talk about this for another 10 minutes because it's riveting. Yeah, right.
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
God wanted you to do that for you, not for him.
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
Hey, you got a lot of followers, right?
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
What would you tell these kids today who are running around buying drugs on the street?
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
Mr. Tate, where can we reach you? Where can people find you?
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
Okay. Now, I need you to look into that camera.
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
And in Spanish, I need you to say, see you next Tuesday.
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
Before you leave this podcast, you're going to tell me why you got jumped. That is the only thing I want to hear. And I can tell you now.
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
You got jumped by girls? Where was this?
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
So this guy, this, will you tell me what happened? I mean, this is just, this is pissing me off.
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
Before you leave this podcast, you're going to tell me why you got chucked. That is the only thing I want to hear. I can tell you now.
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
You were a bitch and got your ass kicked by three of your friends.
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
Wow, that's a Jerry Springer moment.
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
But wait a minute. Hold on a second. You got your ass kicked while you were drunk or loaded or-
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
Excellent. Well, that's what happens when you drink. Through high school and now you're into college, now you're doing cocaine. Tell me about the drug use and what it was like and the wreckage you created.
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
Were you smoking it?
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
Have you ever smoked it?
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
Have you ever shot it?
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
Have you ever shot any drugs?
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
Okay. Yeah. And so when you were doing cocaine, you were doing it with guys, right? Yeah.
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
And girls. Did guys ever hold that against you, keep drugs from you for sex?
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
Okay. Well, you're lucky. That happens to everybody. Can I just tell you, you started off by saying this and you were very insistent on saying it. Yeah. You made it a point twice. Let's talk about how your parents did the best they could. Can I tell you how I resolve that for me? Because my parents were idiots.
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
Okay. I resolve it by saying this. At 16 years old, my father got in a car through his belongings in there and drove from Detroit to LA.
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
I mean, I'd want to light myself on fire if I was born in Detroit, right? I mean, that wasn't a good time for him. I got to live 58 years in LA and who knows if I would have had the courage to come out. I don't know. You know? So when you think about your parents at 18, coming from another country, probably not speaking English.
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
And if they did not well with probably little to no money, no way to make a living, nowhere to live. Okay. Your parents are stars because you can always tell a good parent by their children. And I can't imagine your parents not being extremely bright. So your parents, you don't ever have to qualify that again because your parents are star players. Okay. All right, man.
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
Don't you want to hear what it was like?
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
Well, you're close with your father, right?
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
Because that's not him.
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
Is he, I'm sorry, wait, wait, what did she say? She say he does alcohol?
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
And is he still drinking? Yeah. Does he want to get sober?
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
Will you do me a favor? If he ever wants to get sober, will you call Jason and Jason will have him put on the phone with me so that we can, you know, deal with this once and for all.
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
Okay. Cause it's hard to have a connection with your old man when, you know, there's not a meeting of the minds, you know, and I know that hurts.
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
I mean... I want to hear what it was like, and then what happened, and what it's like now. Don't you?
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
Can I tell you what you're feeling right now?
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
Did you hurt anybody?
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
So we're hardwired to love our parents. We'll never love our parents the way our parents love us. Okay. But we're hardwired to love our parents.
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
And I did the same thing you did. I would get immeasurably distressed. I would be beyond consolable because I fantasized about the parents that I wanted instead of the parents that I had. And once I understood that they actually did do the best they could.
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
Great. And so... you're never going to get all of your needs met. And they're going to check every box. But the high level from 30,000 feet, Great job. Great job. And I'm sorry your dad can't really connect with you. A lot of that is cultural. Very macho culture.
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
Right? So that's tough on a little girl who's just found evolvement.
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
okay because you know your father along in that than your parents but you want to know what sweetie we're supposed to be yeah because we're better than our parents and our children are going to be better than us and their children are going to be better than us and we want that for everybody okay now i'm serious well that's important stuff and i think that's a part of
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
Just you want to get sober?
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
How'd you get sober?
We're Out of Time
The Surprising Truth About Cristal Aguirre's Road to Sobriety
Did you hurt anybody?
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
Dylan, I just figured out why nobody works anymore. They're all working, but they're not going into an office. They're not working for employers.
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
Dude, you're the best. You're the best. Appreciate you. No, you just are. You got it. Hey, do you know how to monetize all this stuff, Dylan? Because we can take this stuff, whatever it is, and just give it to charity. find charities to give it to. Right? Then we can put a water up and just have these guys write the checks to charity, no? Yeah. That's cool. Dude, that's light work.
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
It's always worth it. Oh my God. It's totally worth it to me. Do you know why? Why? Because Dylan does it. Oh, Dylan, is it worth it to you? It's worth it. All right. It's worth it. See, that's why we need a camera there to capture that. Yeah. Right? Yeah. It's like, cause you know, it's like half the time people are going, is there really a Dylan? Dale, the man, the myth. Is that right?
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
Joe Rogan is buff, though. You're buff too, bro. Now I'm just wearing this like tight shirt. Trying a tight shirt to make me look buff. Nah, he's lying. He be in them weights like crazy. No, this guy, this guy went ahead and got into an ice bath. Like Joe Rogan. He like dumped his, and I'm like crying. I'm, I'm feeling, cause you know, I'm an empath, right? So I'm such a, I cried for him.
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
What do you want me to ask, Lisa?
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
A little bit more about the food, because it seems like you're creative, obviously, with your music and stuff, but it seems like you have a love of cooking, and it's creative for you. Can you tell us about that process and some of your favorite things that you like to cook?
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
I like really spicy. Well, check this out. I like really, I don't like, when I tell them hot at the store, at the restaurant, I say, not for a gringo, for you. Right? So, I mean, and that's how I do it. I mean, but then my burns for two days. That bidet in there is very strong. Right? Yeah. I recommend. I don't really like seafood in my Mexican food. I don't. No?
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
But that's probably because I've never had it done right or I've never, you know, had something. Look, if you made me, you can come back here and we're going to do a whole cooking show here. Oh yeah, let's do it.
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
Hand me that. Hand me that. Let me show you. No, no. Let me show you. Ah, ah, ah, ah. Yes. This is who you just wanted to. Oh, no, I did not say that. I didn't talk about that. I was talking about the stove and the seat. Oh, the stove. I thought you were talking about my Kobe Bryant bobblehead.
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
We can let him rack on every podcast.
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
You know, I didn't even... He was great. I loved him. But you know when I fell in love with him? When? After he... After his... Like watching all those interviews and stuff? Watching... That man taught me how to be a better father. I am. That's real. And that's everything. He was just the best father. And I know a few people that know him. And it was, you know what I did?
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
I turned the Empire State Building purple and gold the day or maybe the night he died. The night he died, yeah. What do you mean by that? Well, my buddy across the street from me in Malibu on broad beach, um, uh, has an iPhone and he's the one responsible for turning the empire state building, uh, different colors from his phone, from his phone. Yeah. He does that from his phone in Malibu.
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
He controls, he controls, he controls it. And so I called him and I said, Hey man, I need you to do me a favor. And he said, uh, the owners are in New Zealand. I don't think I can do it. I'm going to, I don't want to get in trouble. And I said, dude, you're not going to get in trouble. You're going to be a hero. You just did the right thing. Okay. They're going to think you're a star player.
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
Come on, man, do this for me. And he never got back to me. And I was watching sports center and And I saw it on SportsCenter and I just started bawling. That's beautiful.
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
The cool story. No, yeah. So because we talked about it and we were talking about that chef, that chef show. Yeah. Right. Right. Tell me about, and then I said, when we get on here, just like, don't say anything about, you've only been doing this for a short period of time. He said, no, no, no, no, no. That's the best part. That's the best part.
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
I want to pay for the hoodie. No, it's a... No, no. Dylan, on the way out... Make certain they have a link or whatever, however you do it, to send everybody to the hoodies, everybody to the chef stuff. That's phenomenal. You just made me hungry and I'm already full. We just ate and now I'm hungry. You know, we don't want to know something crazy.
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
Did you come out all orange? Yeah. No, actually. Do you look like an orangutan?
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
So check it out. We have a good vibe. We have a good conversation always. And this started out as just a fentanyl thing, right? An awareness for fentanyl so kids wouldn't die and parents wouldn't have to deal with the pain. But man, it's tough to talk about fentanyl. Yeah. It just is. I mean, it just destroys you, but I got a hit on it. No. Yeah. I mean, it's the show.
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
I don't even have anything cool to say about that.
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
And, um, you ever done fentanyl? No. Do you press perks? No, no, never.
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
You look like the type of guy that would be like, hell no, hot Cheetos are not it. Dude, I'm 58. I eat something like that, I might just stroke out. You know, I could drop right there.
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
Take your parents to a strip club. Yes, I took my parents to the strip club before. Oh, you want to hear the best strip clubs? Yes. Story ever. I'll take you to tell me the best strip club to go to. I've been to a strip club in 25, 30 years. Oh yeah, I mean, I mean. The best strip club story ever. Let me ask you a question. I heard that at every show, at least one person falls out and dies.
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
That's what I heard. And that's what all these rappers are telling me.
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
See, that's the part that pisses me off because everybody's desensitized to it. Okay. Everybody, you got these kids jumping around. Okay. And somebody falls out. Nobody gives a shit. And, you know, it's just, That was somebody's kid. Yeah. That mother is swinging from a shower rod, man. She don't want to live. Never. I mean, it is the most heartbreaking thing I've ever heard in my life.
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
I mean, how many friends do you have die of fentanyl or acquaintances that you know of?
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
Well, it's usually the girls because guys are giving it to them so that they can get with her. Yeah, that's crazy. Because they lack the game. OK, to to make it consensual and get this woman hot for them. Right. So it's easier to pull a Bill Cosby.
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
You know, the cocaine now nobody can handle because 70% of it's laced with fentanyl.
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
Oh, yeah. Holy shit. Check this out. Did you know that... Every seven minutes, someone between the age of 18 and 45 dies of fentanyl. Every seven minutes in this country. Holy. Dude, it's that bad? Oh, yeah. Bro, that's crazy. Dude, someone's already dropped and we're only seven minutes into this thing. It's the worst. And the worst part about it is you're close with your old man, right?
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
We're going to need another podcast. Yeah. And so. No, I mean, not for us. We're going to do one for us. We're going to need another podcast. This is starting to weigh on me. it started to weigh on me now.
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
But let me ask you a question. Do you buy your weed in a dispensary or you get it on the street?
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
But people will grow it basically. Yeah. But why not do it? Why not get it from a dispensary?
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
Well, it's a thing now. Believe me. I thought my parents were lying when they started telling me that. No, no. Well, no one's important enough to lie to and I don't lie. Okay. So I'm telling you that's a thing. So, what would make me feel more comfortable is if you only got that stuff at the dispensary. Because once you get it at the dispensary, dispensary is not going to take any of that stuff.
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
Because if they do, they're going to lose their license. You just have to make certain... It's a legit dispensary and not one of those pop-ups, right? And then they're open until they get shut down and then they pop up somewhere else the next day. That's what happens.
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
Okay, so you're going to pay an extra 20 bucks an ounce, 30 bucks. Who cares? You just said that you're in love with your family. Yeah. Okay. And they all rely on you. It's a family business. You're the family business, right? Okay. But where's the family business without you?
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
Well, I've kind of been doing this a while.
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
You love your old man. I mean, I heard you while we were eating pancakes.
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
Your parents had an unlicensed rehab. Yes. That's awesome.
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
They would have been vibing for sure. Oh, my God. Do you know if you would have brought your parents, I would have lost my shit. I would have been so happy. I probably would have cried like a little bitch.
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
You're the kids who are dying.
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
You're the kids who are dying.
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
How were the pancakes?
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
And then because most of you are glorifying it, the kids who are listening to you are dying.
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
And I have teenagers. And I thought if I didn't do it, I would be punished. So I didn't have a choice. I feel that. I didn't want to do a podcast.
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
I'm an executive chairman of a healthcare corporation. Nobody can believe I'm doing this. Damn. Nobody. Trust me, in my world, everybody is pissed off that I'm doing this, and I don't care. Because doing the right thing is hard sometimes. I've never even seen a podcast. I've never even listened to a podcast. Ever. I think it's stupid. This isn't for money.
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
They were. They were so good. But your father's in love with you. Can you imagine the pain he would have if you did cocaine and were gone? He'd lose his mind.
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
This is to do the right thing because I can. That's why. That's solid, man.
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
Yeah, and if I wasn't so damn tortured, it would be great.
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
I don't really give a shit about anybody but the kids and the parents to keep the... Because it's not something...
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
I would just die. Like, my heart would break. To, just to think about it is more than I can bear.
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
So, yeah. So, give me three tips on what I could, you know, just around the house find and whip up something for my kids.
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
You close with your mom?
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
That's cool. Hey, do me a favor, will you? Okay. I'm going to run out to go to my cardiologist before my heart falls out. Okay. Seriously. I, you know, I mean, I've got small kids, you know, I gotta make it till tomorrow. So, so I'm going to go do that. And you're in the, and you're in the, um, you're in the Bay area. Yup. San Jose, California. Second chef in the Bay area.
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
God, he's the greatest. We'll make some curry. Before we end, I just want to say one thing and then you'll walk us out of here, okay? All right. Coach Saban, you're breaking my heart. Okay.
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
Do you ever do it on a live stream on Instagram?
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
It's also the Latin connection. Yeah, yeah. People always feel more connected to their people for some reason. It's getting less so now with the kids today because kids don't see color anymore. Yeah. They just don't. They just don't, which is the greatest part about the kids today. But you've been in this game since you were a child. Yeah, forever. How did it affect you, man?
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
Different, different, different problems. Yeah. As you're like, you'll see as your life gets bigger. Okay. Um, your problems get bigger, right? It's the basic stuff, right? That is cool. Like you don't have to worry about, you know, a roof over your head or you don't have to worry about the food, right? Yeah. Uh,
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
But there's just all these pressures when you're building a life and you're ascending into, you know, you're the best version of yourself. Right. And when you get there, it's just, you know, you got to be on point. Right. You got to know what you're doing. And anyway, I forgot what.
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
I guess when you have more money, you have more responsibility. And then you have more to lose. Yeah. Right? So it's not just about making it anymore. It's about keeping what you've got. And not only that, but growing. And there's just a lot of, hey, I promise you, when we get there, you'll be back and we'll do that whole thing. But you're killing it right now. You're 22.
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
I mean, you're just destroying it. Thank you. I appreciate that. No, no problem. I want to talk about the cooking.
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
Yeah. Because I figured that was going to come up as a boy. Well, that's, that's look, man, the rap thing don't last forever. Okay. What was that thing in, uh, You know who Cypress Hill is? Yeah. You didn't know that song, Rap Game or Rap Superstar? I'm not sure. I'm not sure about that. You don't know Rap Superstar. All right.
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
So they go through these lyrics in there and it's like, this game ain't going to last forever. You got to get your money. Right. When you can't. And you feel like you're just getting your love back now because these adults were bad
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
bumming you out you know and and they didn't know how to deal with a young kid and nurture him and love him they just they're a bunch of suits and you know just a bunch of right so who needs that so they cost you that love and the longer you stay away from them okay you'll you'll get it back Okay. Trust me. Cause you're gifted. Okay. I listened to your stuff before you came on. Okay.
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
I mean, you're gifted. Okay. But there's nothing cooler than being a chef. And when we were talking about it beforehand, you lit up like a Christmas tree. Like you really love it. So you said, you said you had a story about it. You said, no, no, no, bitch. The story's cooler. And I said, save it for the show.
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
Well, I appreciate it, man, because it's for good cause, you know, and this fentanyl thing's killing everybody. So let me ask you a couple of questions.
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
Stop. Stop. Show that camera that eight pack again. No, no. You're going to get more ass than a toilet seat in a minute. Okay? No, seriously. You're going to get more ass than a bus bench. Go ahead and open that up.
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
You make a million bucks a month if you could do that. Only fans.
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
Can I ask you a question? Yeah. Do your parents ever say, finish your plate because there are kids starving? Yes. They did, right? Yes. But we finished the leftovers. We finished everything. But let me ask you a question. When they said that, truth. Tell me the truth. Weren't you thinking, like, this is going to really get to South Africa? Really?
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
I was like, you're not going to send it to Africa, right? Like, if I don't eat it, who's going to eat it?
We're Out of Time
Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight
Our house is like- So then why not just give somebody like a little dose of NyQuil, okay? Knock them out so you can eat their potatoes. Like, that's crazy. You say Bill Cosby didn't take their food. Said the rehab guy. Unreal. I take it back. I'm sorry.
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
I think that this is the most beautiful thing because I tell people all the time, one of the most important things that you need to know in your life is you need to be financially literate. Okay, that's a must. And they don't teach you in school. Will you look into that camera and tell the people what class you took, what it's called, so that our viewers can go there? No, I don't own it.
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
Okay, I don't even know anything about this. Don't make this about me. So Next Level Boys Program, shout out Coach Davis.
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
You want to go to the business side of it now? Yeah. I mean, can I just touch on the health real quick? Yeah. Okay. Taking care of your health is about self-love. Now, I'm still working on my self-love, hand to God. I don't love myself the way I should. I do not.
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
And you know what's great about that? It's a process, right? How old are your kids? I got two four-year-olds and I got a seven-year-old. That's fantastic. So the way I look at it, because... None of us are exactly where we want to be, right? I don't care who you are. You want to be somewhere. You want to grow. You want to thrive. You want to be better, right? And the greatest part about that is
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
You only have to be one step ahead of your children, right? So I don't know everything, and I still have to learn a lot of stuff to pass down to my boy and my daughter, right? I mean, I have to, right? You only need to be one step ahead of your children, and I'm the same way. I have so much more to learn, but you know what? My kids are getting smarter. And they're rapidly catching up to me.
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
I mean, very quickly. For sure. But right now I got a little time. So I always stay one step ahead of the kids. And if they ever ask me something and I don't know, well, yeah. And if I don't know, I say, you know what, guys? That's a great question. Let me think about that. And I'll get right back to you, okay?
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
Yeah. Progress. Right. It's you're clear. You're more motivated. Right. Because here's the thing. When guys come on this show, I never tell them not to drink or do drugs. I don't. I tell them to buy their weed at a dispensary, and I tell them to get their pills at a pharmacy from a doctor. Because... Phenolautama. Yeah. That's right. They're dying. They're all dying. That's exactly right. And...
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
By the time you're my age, you will have achieved all your goals. And your last goal will be just to make certain that what you already did sticks.
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
This guy who's here just recently, great guy, fantastic guy. His name is Jimmy Shin. And he said something, I hope I get this right, Dylan. He said...
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
I'm a father. We're fathers, right? Which is why I assume you came on this thing because you've got young children and you want to bring awareness to the fentanyl issue because we're parents and we're scared to death. I just want to make certain. That I leave this place better than I found it. Right? Right. And that my children are okay in the world when I'm gone. When you're gone. All right?
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
And that's really important to me. Those are the only two things that in from a 30,000 foot view that I care about. And maybe that's because I'm 58 and I've already had my shit. and my home, and my car, and, you know, whatever, right? I've already had that. But, bro, you feel it whether you know it or not, because you didn't walk in here all iced up.
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
You're a father, so what happened was, is intuitively you know that's important. This isn't. The children are important. This isn't. The woman I love, she's important. This is it. Okay. Now, it's easy for me to say, okay, because everyone's listening. Oh, it's easy for you to say, right? Okay.
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
It is easy for me to say, okay, because I've done a lot of living and I've worked around the clock for, I don't know, two decades, closer to three. I mean, I do not leave the house. That's why the office is next to the house. Right? Yeah. I mean, people work all day long out of that. This is an office and I just live upstairs. That's how I do it. Okay. So I worked for that. I earned that.
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
I made mistake after mistake after mistake, got back up, dust myself off, and went and took the next right action after the next right action after the next right action. That's it. You know, Cook Saban. Do you know who Cook Saban is? Nick Saban? No. You don't watch college football. Okay. So Nick Saban is the best college football coach of all time. It's not close.
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
It's like Michael Jordan and everybody else. It's just not close. The best. And- He said something that has always stuck with me because I'm always saying reps, reps, reps, over, over, do it again, do it again. He made a statement that was so genius. He said, you don't keep doing something over and over until you get it right. You keep doing it over and over again until you can't get it wrong.
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
You know the culture, right? It's all weed. It's all booze. It's all music. It's all women. It's like, right? I mean, this is what it's about, right? Most definitely. Okay. I mean, that's how it would have been if I was a kid.
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
That's like a spiritual experience, right? Yeah, sure. And that ain't about football, dude.
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
You know, it's funny. You asked me, you asked me why I'm doing this, why I did this podcast, right? And I told you it was just to bring fentanyl awareness and save kids. And, you know, we've got kids and we've got to do it. Listen, let's move on to... To the fentanyl thing. Okay. Have you ever tried fentanyl?
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
right so yeah man thank you so much for saying that i really appreciate it um gotta be said so how do you feel uh now as opposed to uh being loaded all the time do you get more done do you are you happier do you have a joy of living like what is it so personally i i get way more done like just
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
overdose okay because you know it wasn't it wasn't fatal but it wasn't fatal but your current seven-year-old was two two and a half during that period does he have any recollection of that overdose i don't remember thank god he went straight to sleep like he ate the pasta i got he ate the pasta and i looked over into that and i was like thank god he's just
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
Thank God. All right. And the other ones are four, so they'd never even seen you loaded. Let's get to this other thing. I want to talk to you about your arrest. Are you okay with that? A little bit, yeah. Okay. Because I'm impressed. Let me tell you why I want to talk about it. Normally, I would.
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
But the reason I want to talk about it is, you know, I own the finest drug and alcohol treatment facility in the world. It's for... Anyone and everyone who absolutely has to have the finest of everything, especially under like the horrific hard conditions of, you know, stopping using. Wood draws and all that. Yeah. I mean, and they held that life valuable.
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
That was like their medicine, you know, everything to them, everything. And so, you know, that's a scary thing. So you have to be in the right place. The reason I want to ask you about this is because I'm impressed doing what I do for a living to have a guy who got in trouble with the law and hasn't done drugs in five years.
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
Okay. Hey, guess what? What you're doing is beyond magnificent because you did all that stuff up until two years ago. And the last two years, you've been on the straight and narrow. You've been-
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
Or you can just, better yet, you can just say, I'm not going to do this today. And then you're like... Four o'clock. It's like, you know, it's like, right? And it's like, I always tell people, if you're having problems, stop drinking for 30 days.
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
She's a model. Does she get paid for money? Yeah, she gets paid a good amount. And she gets paid for doing the content. Yeah. All right, good. Well, then she is working. She just works for herself. Right, she works for herself. But I'm just saying not like a nine to five, like not a traditional job. Who works nine to five anymore? I don't know. I don't even know if that works.
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
Is that even a thing anymore? No.
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
I feel like she's going to die. All right. Well, let's get back to her in a minute. Do you want, do you want help for her? Definitely. Does she want help? I was going to ask you like, you know, really? Yeah. I, that'd be a huge favor to me. Really? Yes. Okay. What's your name? I don't want to like be, you know what I'm saying? So you want me to talk to your girlfriend after the, after the podcast?
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
Yeah. And I'll try to get her into treatment.
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
We'll figure something out for her. Don't worry about it. Listen, if I can't help her, I can find a place that will. So don't worry about it. I'll figure it out for you before you leave here. Okay? So the reason I want to talk about this is because You're doing great. You're what the judicial system is actually hoping for. You went in, you got on probation. Right. Okay.
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
You haven't been in trouble in what? How long? Five years? Yeah. I haven't been in serious trouble. I haven't caught a new felony. Good. So you're good for five years. Okay. Not five years. It's been five years.
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
It's been five. Made a career for myself. Yeah, it's been five years. Okay. So it's been five years. Two years sober. So not in trouble for five. Sober for two. And you've got another five. Okay. On probation. And I just think that's fantastic. And I think that's something that you should be really, really proud of, like extremely proud of.
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
Do you ever call them and make a repair and tell them?
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
like conspiracy of a murder you know it's like conspiracy let me just stop scaring everybody okay you didn't you it wasn't conspiracy to commit murder somebody somebody somebody burglarized somebody burglarized and died and allegedly you were i was a part of the conspiracy You know what I'm saying? Well, you didn't plan the burglary, did you? No. Did you plan in any way, shape, or form?
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
I had nothing to do with this. Right. But you were with the boys.
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
My point is, though, you weren't there. Right. Okay? But you were with the guys. That they said was there. And then you got 10 years probation. Right. Because the judge...
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
Good. Gillen, grab me a pen and a pad of paper, will you please? Because this man just said the magic words. You said goals. Yeah. Uh-huh. Want to talk about your goals?
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
Yeah. Where is she? Fulton County. Of course. Flint County, Georgia? Yeah. That woman is a blessing. You should send her a dozen roses to her courtroom every year on your anniversary and then walk in with the roses on the 10th year. It's a 30-line probation and you're the greatest woman alive. Yeah, you're right. I might do that. Absolutely, dude. Sure.
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
Well, life's tough enough, okay? Right. So we don't need to go to jail to toughen up. Right now. Yeah. Right? Life brings its own baggage. So... You're never going to see the inside of a jail cell yet. Never. Because you don't live that way. And as long as you don't live in a way that is putting you in harm's way, then you don't ever have to go to jail again. And then we can get back to this.
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
These goals. Okay? Because that's what I want to do here. And I want to knock these out real quick. Okay? Okay. You got your business goals and your personal goals, okay? You said you wanted a business. But before we get into that, what I want to know is, how often are you making music? So I make music like every day, every other day. How often are you in the studio? Every day, every other day.
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
Okay. But you, I don't understand how the business works. So I apologize, but.
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
Listen, I don't even know where to go with this because most guys that come in here tell me, I want a yacht. I want a jet. I want, you know, yada, yada, yada. I want a mansion. I want this. And you're like, man, I want a home to put my family in. I mean, you're so right-sized, right? It's ridiculous.
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
You've got money and talent and discipline and a good soul. Most definitely. You can't lose. No, no, no. You cannot lose. It would be impossible for you to lose. If you are making music every day and you drop that... Intentionally. Okay. You collab and do a couple tunes with, I would do tunes with your 10 best friends here that are big shots just like you. What's our cat coming on Monday again?
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
Landed. Landed? Yeah. Landed Cube. I'd call him, I'd call Dex, I'd call Lil Xan, I'd call all of them and say, hey, let's meet me at the thing and let's knock this out. You do one for them, they'll do one for you, and you're done.
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
Then ask them. Make yourself a wish list. Just... but I put off till tomorrow what you can do today. Make a wish list. It's only yours. Some people own those on it? Yeah, but shoot for the stars. Travis. This is a stream of consciousness exercise. You're just writing this stud, that stud, Jay-Z, Eminem, Andre 3000, Run DMC. What's important is if you can come up with these mashups, Right.
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
And you're back. I'm back. That's the day. Right. Okay. And, and the, and the story of the album is you're with, you're doing these nothing but duos or collabs with other artists or mashups on your own with other artists. Right. And so it's like, I'm back. With my friends. Isn't that hard? Yeah, it's the hardest idea. Yeah, well, that's okay because that's the only one I've got. That's it.
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
That's all I got. Dude, I swear to God, I tried to be so hopeful. You know? The listeners are probably like, again? No, you're right, bro. Moron. Yeah. All right. So I want to touch on the Sentinel thing real quick, okay? And then we're going to... All right.
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
So these kids' parents will never be the same. Never. Never. You gotta stop. This is it. Just stop. Think about it for a second, though. Let's... You've got a seven-year-old and twin four-year-olds. Can you imagine what, you can't even imagine if something happened to them. I mean, you'd be dead.
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
Dude, if something happened to your kids, you'd be on drugs in five minutes. five minutes and I wouldn't even be here. Okay. It's, it is the most unnatural thing in the world for people to die before their kids, for their kids to die before them. Absolutely. It's just, it's not, that's not the way it's supposed to be. And yeah, this is why we do this podcast. I don't monetize this thing.
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
This is never going to, we are never going to have a commercial here. I'm never going to. Sponsored by Kiss My, okay? No chance ever, okay? This is a pure thing. It is a pure thing. And, you know, at the end, you know, I got my buddy Jason who gives this little talk and he says, look, if anybody ever needs help, call us. We'll take care of you, okay?
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
And that doesn't mean, oh, come to my center, okay? Okay, man, one in 500,000 people can come to my center. I ain't getting any business from this podcast to come to Carrera. You go to Carrera, it's $165,000 a month. Nobody's going to Carrera off this podcast. Okay.
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
The people who are going to call me off this podcast need help and they can either go to my affordable care center, which doesn't have a lot of beds right now. Okay. Or if I can't help them, I'll find them a spot. I find every, we find people treatment who call us every single day just for fun and for free so that no one ever feels like nowhere to go.
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
No, that they're not important because they didn't have the money because that's just not how I'm going to ever operate in the world. Yeah. Right? So, I mean, this is just, just for this purpose, for people like you, for a guy like me, okay, who knows this. To talk to a guy like you who everybody loves and every kid. Dude, my daughter's 15. People in her school know who you are.
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
They knew who little Zan was. They knew who famous Dex was. They were like, whoa. You guys make a difference in every community because everybody listens to your music. The kids love it. Right. Yeah. How good is that? Yeah, it was great. That's so good. You helped so many people here today. For sure. Now, we're going to end, okay? And then you and I are going to go help your old lady, okay?
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
I shall. All right. So where can people reach you, buddy?
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
We're out of time. Please subscribe on YouTube, click the thumbs up, and leave a comment. Please subscribe on Apple Podcasts and Spotify and leave a rating and a review. And share the We're Out of Time podcast with others you know who will get value out of it. See you next Tuesday.
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
Two things. Number one, you said I break my goals into two buckets. One is personal and one is business. And then you went to personal first before business. And so you know it's important. And then the first goal was for your family and not for you. So if you ever want to know the moment that I started loving the shit out of you, that was it. Like, man, that was beautiful. For sure.
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
Dude, I almost started crying like a little. I'm not kidding. It was that beautiful. That's the way it got to be. Yeah.
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
Young Bands. Yeah. How you doing, man? Doing good, man. Thanks for coming. Sure. Thanks for having me. Thanks for having me. You're the only guy who's walked in here from the underground rap scene that hasn't walked in smoking a joint. Yeah. You're the only one. Sure. And then somebody here offered you to smoke and you said no. Yeah. Why? Probation, can't smoke, so.
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
You know? Yeah. No, it's better. Listen, especially in times that we're living in now, right? With all this income disparity where people have a ton and then other people have nothing. Okay. You don't want to give anybody an excuse to take your life or take something from. Yeah. Because, you know, I mean, you give it right to them. Hell yeah. Okay?
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
And so would I. But, you know, they're having a bad day. They might just do it. And they don't want to have a conversation. They just want to move fast. Bang. And they're gone. I mean, over what?
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
Lost your life because you were a dumbass and you wore your shit out in a place where it wasn't safe. That's all. So that's good. Okay. I mean, there's nothing better than giving back. Okay. And thank you for coming, man, because you're a big shot. People love you. They just lose it for you. Yeah. They do. Dylan, didn't he do a music video with somebody who's coming in the next couple of days?
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
Yes. Landon Cube. Do you know Landon Cube? Yeah, I know Landon. Shout out Landon. Yeah. So Landon's coming next week, Dylan?
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
Oh, March 30th is coming Monday. So that's cool. I heard you guys did music together. One of my biggest songs. You know, my biggest song. Oh, then hold on. Let's put that. Let's go straight to the business balls. You want to do another song with him? Yeah. Hell yeah. Always down to work. What? Always down to work. Yeah, let's work that out, Dylan. Remind me.
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
Because I think that's good for both of them. They're both star players, right? I mean, who doesn't want, I mean, right? Yeah. And you guys go and you do that. And because you're giving to each other, you both rise, right?
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
Don't you think, Dylan? Oh, I love that.
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
Listen, I don't know if that works for you, but I think it would be cool. You guys are friends, right? Yeah. How long does it take to knock out a song in the studio?
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
If you didn't take your time on it, 45 minutes to an hour? Yeah. How about if you're just being lazy?
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
Okay, good. If you guys want to do that, I'll give you the 500 bucks for the studio time. If you guys want to do that. Okay. Because I think that would be so good for you. And good for him because you're both starter players and you haven't done this in a long time. And it's... I haven't done what? You haven't did a song together for a long time. That's true. Right? And when was it?
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
What year was it? I don't know, maybe 18.
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
Right. That's the net. Landing cool. Landing cool. Right. I think that's cool. All right. So let's get back to personal. Okay. So you've got a home for your family. Okay. So they always have a place to go, which is the most, it's not just beautiful. It's heartbreaking.
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
How long have you been on probation? For like five years. How much longer you got? Five more, five more to go. Really? Yeah. And you're not smoking or drinking or anything right now? Nothing, like nothing at all.
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
Right. Because I know where it's coming from. So what a beautiful soul, dude. Your parents alive? For sure. And call your parents right when you get done with this. They did so good with you. All right. Next personal goal.
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
You know what I'm saying? Good. So I'm going to recommend something for you where you can literally listen to a book, a large book in 15 minutes and get all the key points out of every single book you have. Where it's good for you? Summarize like, I like it. Yeah. I don't do it as much as I should, but there were periods in my life where I did it every day for years. Taught you a lot.
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
There's nothing, listen, there's nothing more important than continuing to grow and learn nothing. We're not going to be, you're not the same guy today that you're going to be in 20 years. I can prove it to you. Are you the same guy today that you were at 15? Not even close, right? Not even close, no. Okay. I mean, when you get to be 45 and 55, you're different. You get mature and you...
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
And you get more right sized about everything. And there are no real big deals unless it has to do with your family. Or health. Or livelihood. Right. But, you know, if it doesn't kill you, it makes you stronger. Sure. Right. All right. So we got your health. Are you exercising at all? A little bit.
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
So you want, what song do you want to play on the outro here? We'll play one of your songs on the outro after the deal. Let's play Straight Cash. Straight Cash?
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
Maybe a heart. That's awesome. So you want to pass down your assets. And what you're saying is you held on to your music.
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
But no, but no drugs at all? No drugs. Pills, powders, nothing.
We're Out of Time
Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
Let me write this down because I want to be able to give you something. You got kids? Yeah, three. Did you know you can give $19,000 to each one of them? As a gift. Tax free.
We're Out of Time
Is this the WORST Drug Epidemic in History? Dr. Kenneth Spielvogel
If you or a loved one is struggling, we have a number that you can call and we'll help you find the best treatment that is right for you. Our company, One Call Placement, is dedicated to helping you and we'll find the best treatment that is right for you. So call now at 888-808-6159. Again, that's 888-808-6159.
We're Out of Time
Landon Cube on Recovery, Music, and the Journey for a Better Life
Musician Landon Cube joins the We're Out of Time podcast.
We're Out of Time
Landon Cube on Recovery, Music, and the Journey for a Better Life
We're out of time. Please subscribe on YouTube. Click the thumbs up and leave a comment. Please subscribe on Apple Podcasts and Spotify and leave a rating and a review. And share the We're Out of Time podcast with others you know who will get value out of it. See you next Tuesday.
We're Out of Time
Landon Cube on Recovery, Music, and the Journey for a Better Life
We're Out of Time has reached number three on the Apple Podcast Mental Health Chart. Thank you for listening, supporting, and sharing this journey with us. Please follow the podcast, rate, and review. And if you're getting value out of We're Out of Time, share it with someone else you know.
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
Did your parents find out about that?
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
That's when they found out about it? Yeah. Did anything happen to this guy?
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
Were you traumatized by the experience of jail?
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
How long after leaving jail, what was the time period that it took you to get sober from that point on?
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
He's been taken care of.
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
Tell the viewers what that means in English.
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
I just want to know if the guy went to jail or not.
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
They raided your house and found heroin? Yes.
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
Right. It's back to the community thing.
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
Well, we're always the last to know.
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
No, but it had, but, but again, you don't, it's time goes on, right? We don't remember, but I can guarantee you the parts that stuck. were building blocks for the next.
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
I was like, how old were you when you left the house?
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
So you don't think you've transcended alcoholism?
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
I think that, um, do you believe that people can transcend alcoholism?
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
You just said that because you know that's what I wanted to hear.
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
Your father punched you in the face at 14. Do you talk to him anymore?
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
I couldn't do cocaine or heroin if my life depended on it. And nobody likes that.
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
I don't remember. Give me the first name.
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
Your father punched you in the face at 14? Yeah. Do you talk to him anymore?
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
Not only that, not only that.
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
They are. They are brutal. Um, You're 11 years sober.
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
13 and a half. At 10 years sober, you probably blew up.
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
But it got better at 10 years. Yeah.
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
Do you, does Evan see the kids?
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
Yeah, he's a good guy. All Canadians are good guys.
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
Where do celebrities go to rehab?
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
Are you just telling me that because that's what I want to hear?
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
Yes. You know, we allow dogs at Carrera.
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
Is that, because I don't play nice with others, is that something that is- A barrier? Typical in the industry?
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
The one thing I want to talk about is managing your stressors because there's only so much an alcoholic can tolerate before he's got to self-medicate, right? And, you know, people are stigmatizing therapy. but not like they used to. And people don't understand that therapy isn't something you have to do. It's something you get to do. It is the ultimate luxury.
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
Because if our stressors are here and we don't have the support, right? That's greater than the stressor. At some point you've had enough, right? Talk to me about that, about your experience with your personal therapist.
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
Explain what somatic experiencing is to, uh, a layman to a layman because, uh, I don't think they get it. And initially when I first heard about it years ago, I was like, okay, so you scream into a pillow or you beat the out of a pillow. I don't get it.
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
Like what's that movie that I watched with the kids about anger? Yes.
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
Then we're going to continue to suffer.
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
It's so much harder today for the kids today than it was for us because everyone's got a voice. Everybody thinks their opinion matters. Everybody.
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
Well, what's about it is that, you know, when I was a kid and I ran my mouth, OK, I got my ass kicked. OK, now people are running their mouths because they got computer courage.
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
So it never gets worked out.
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
You know what I mean? That's the sad part. And the girls are taking it so seriously.
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
Right. And they're all having such a hard time. The guys don't give a.
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
How do you know? How do you know that those traumas that you experienced in early childhood weren't so painful that you had to self-medicate over it?
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
Where can people find you? Got 117,000 people following you on Instagram.
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
Thank you so much for coming today.
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
I really appreciate it. I have one request.
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
Okay. I need you to look into that camera right there. And I need you to say, see you next Tuesday.
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
That's not why you don't pick up a drink or a drug. The reason you don't pick up a drink or a drug is because you're a single mother. You're not a dip. You're in love with your kid.
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
No, no, no, not with a head. You can't unring a bell. You can't have the, the, the life that we've had and the education that we've had. And I'm not talking about the anecdotal, you know, we don't do, you know, people would say, oh, there's no evidence that what you've got is anecdotal. No, we don't have anecdotal evidence in this business. We've got field research in this business. Okay.
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
And that's what they use.
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
I'm the president of your fan club.
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
No, but that's, but now you're creating new facts. That wasn't your situation.
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
You went ahead and dealt with that responsibly so that you could get to the other side of it. And then you have kids. And what you're saying is, well, I still don't drink because I'm an alcoholic and that's fine. But the reason you don't drink
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
Is because you're a mother and you know what it's like to grow up in an alcoholic household.
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
I read years ago that these houses were being hit by this group of kids and Paris Hilton's house got burglarized as well. You were part of that.
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
I went to three high schools in my senior year.
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
Were you on Pretty Wild?
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
I love it because I've got a 15-year-old daughter and any time I can spend with her, I'm taking it and that's the way we spend the time.
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
No, I want the whole story.
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
And you got caught not at the scene. You
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
What was the last house you guys robbed before you got there?
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
So you were only physically in Orlando's home. You didn't go to any of the other homes.
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
You had to pick my boy Orlando, huh?
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
I can't even imagine- Actually, you can make an amends to him personally, and I can make that happen today.
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
All I can say is that- I think that would be cool for the ending of this podcast.
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
Because she knew you guys were kids and-
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
Did Orlando ever get back his shit?
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
And she let you come right home.
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
You had bad behavior one night.
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
What are the girls like in jail when you walk in? Tell me about that experience when you first get there. That's got to be just the culture shock of a lifetime.
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
So sorry. That is so it's horrible.
We're Out of Time
Alexis Haines EXPOSES The Surprising Truth About Her Life
Why were you, why were you in isolation?
We're Out of Time
Nick Thune Inspiring Sobriety & Comedy Stand Out
We're out of time. Please subscribe on YouTube. Click the thumbs up and leave a comment. Please subscribe on Apple Podcast and Spotify and leave a rating and a review and share the We're Out of Time podcast with others you know who will get value out of it. See you next Tuesday.
We're Out of Time
Nick Thune Inspiring Sobriety & Comedy Stand Out
Thank you for listening to the We're Out of Time podcast with Richard Tate. If you haven't already, please follow the podcast, rate and review. And if you're getting value out of We're Out of Time, share it with someone else you know.