Chef Boy Bonez is a rapper who appeared on Season 15 of America's Got Talent. Chef shares his story of transcending disempowering ways and decisions to live a more empowering life on the "We're Out of Time" podcast with Richard Taite. They're joined by Carrara Treatment Wellness & Spa's Dr. Ken Spielvogel, MD. For all things Richard Taite, the We're Out Of Time podcast, and Carrara Treatment Wellness & Spa: https://linktr.ee/richardtaitehttps://www.1callplacement.org/For more on Chef Boy Bonez:https://www.instagram.com/chefboybonezKey moments from this conversation with Chef Boy Bonez, Dr.Spielvogel & Richard Taite. Intro 00:00Chef gives an inside look into the underground rap scene and substance use. 00:46Does Chef know anyone who has ODed? 02:21What are the effects on a family who loses someone to substances? 05:30Chef's EYES POP out over how much money?! 07:57Why should families have Narcan? 09:40When did Chef Boy Bonez first try a substance? 12:29What was Chef's gateway substance and why now does he understand why he used it to start? 15:09How can negative relationships take us down a bad path? Chef shares. 21:55"When to stop." 27:02Check out Chef Boy Bonez NO JUMPER FREESTYLE 33:54
Chapter 1: What insights does Chef Boy Bonez share about the underground rap scene?
I count times in my life where I'm like, I should have been doing that, what I'm doing now. My other homie Etai comes in and he's looking for his gummy bears. He's going off. He's like, yo, who ate my, who ate my gummy, where's my gummy bears? I'm like, I'm in my pocket. I'm like, yo, bro, here's a dollar, like my bag. You know what I'm saying? We didn't mean to eat your gummy.
I'll go get you some more if it's that serious. He's like, no. You know a lot of people are chasing their eyes.
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Chef, thanks for coming by, man. I really appreciate it. Thank you for having me. Thanks, bro. So let's get right to it. You're in the rap scene, the underground rap scene. You got a lot of friends. You guys are doing that whole thing, right? Yeah, I'm a rapper. I'm in the industry. Okay. You see a lot of drugs, press books.
That's all it is. That's all the industry is, is drugs. I mean, that's not all it is. Let me take that back because there are a lot of artists that don't do drugs. But yeah, for the most part, that's, you know, that's the starter.
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Chapter 2: How has substance use affected Chef's friends and family?
Chapter 3: Why is understanding the effects of Narcan important for families?
Chef, thanks for coming by, man. I really appreciate it. Thank you for having me. Thanks, bro. So let's get right to it. You're in the rap scene, the underground rap scene. You got a lot of friends. You guys are doing that whole thing, right? Yeah, I'm a rapper. I'm in the industry. Okay. You see a lot of drugs, press books.
That's all it is. That's all the industry is, is drugs. I mean, that's not all it is. Let me take that back because there are a lot of artists that don't do drugs. But yeah, for the most part, that's, you know, that's the starter.
Yeah.
That's the Kickstarter. Go. You go. It's a main one. If you had to say like, this is what most people are doing.
Chapter 4: What was Chef Boy Bonez's gateway drug experience?
Most artists are sipping lean, codeine with promethazine, perks, cocaine, E-pills, MDMA, you name it, it goes on. Shrooms. Shrooms are a little bit more on the cool side. They don't really overdo the shrooms, I would say. They don't overuse. Different vibe. Different vibe with the shrooms, but the 30s and the lean, Oh, yeah, that's like candy right there. That's like studio etiquette.
Chapter 5: How do negative relationships influence substance use?
You don't go to the studio unless you have that.
Where are they getting it? Are they getting it from physicians? Are they getting it on the street?
The ones who got money are getting it from people that are close to physicians. You know, I would say we're getting it to the closest plug that's getting it from a doctor. But the ones who don't have money are getting it from the street. And, of course, you know, the street... Yeah. The streets are, they're making it, whipping it up, cooking it, and making it right in the kitchen.
So you don't know what you're getting at that point, but you're chasing that high. Right. You know, a lot of people are chasing that high, so.
And do you know anyone that's overdosed?
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Chapter 6: What personal stories does Chef share about losing friends to drugs?
Yeah. I have, man, several friends, too many to sit here and name them one by one, or rest in peace to all of them, but I'm a Valley kid. I'm born and raised out here in California, and I was raised in Sherman Oaks. Mm-hmm. You know, right off of Ventura Boulevard, I spent a lot of my early days as a kid skateboarding on the block.
You know, on my block, I would say Ventura Boulevard was my street. Cool street, cool area, calm, Sherman Oaks. But behind, you know, behind those walls as kids, a lot of kids was on drugs. A lot of my friends were ODing. A lot of my friends were heroin addicts, young, smoking off of foil. A lot of them were sipping from methamphetamine.
Chapter 7: What role does marijuana play in Chef Boy Bonez's life?
You know, I've lost 10 fingers how many friends I've lost from now on.
said from 17 years old to 33 bro you know just living in the valley is enough living in the valley is enough to get you doing drugs yeah i mean it's it's you don't know what it's like growing up in the valley man i grew up right next to him in encino okay it is the karens in the valley are just non-stop All the people who are pissed, they don't live in the city. That's essentially what it is.
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Oh, and it feels like the center of the sun in the summer. Yeah. Like I literally, you get out of the car and you want to cry. That's how bad it is. Right. Right. Right? Right. I can agree with that. Dude, I got so spoiled being here in Santa Monica and in Malibu. Oh, man. Like you come from the city. Mm-hmm. There you go broke here because they come here for this.
This weather is people. They come in just for the weather, just for the weather, just for the weather. That's right. So you have like in this day and age as an adult making music and out there and you have a friend who's buying, say he thinks he's getting a perk on the street. Is there any feeling of like this could kill me? It could have fentanyl in it.
I might get it might be laced and I could die.
Yeah. I mean, one of the homies, I'm not going to say his name, but he was getting perks from an unauthorized dealer. You know that we've known that this dealer presses pills and he still he still is getting them. He still wants to chase that high. You know, doesn't really get that. It's an addiction at a certain point. It's an addiction. Right.
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Chapter 8: How do trauma and family dynamics influence substance use?
When you're addicted to something and I feel you don't really care, you're just chasing the high. You're chasing that feeling. Just for the viewers. Just for the viewers.
If you're doing the perks or any opioids at all for longer than five to seven days, it's got you. You don't have it. Right. There's no more. You don't have a choice anymore. Right. And you have to probably get medical help. Absolutely. So let me ask you a question. Do you know any friends? You have friends who have died of fentanyl. Yes. Okay.
Just speak about one of them, about what it did to their parents or their family structure, because it destroys families. Yeah. It completely destroys. So I want to hear a little bit about something, if you know, about the pain it caused the people left behind.
Oh man, a real, a real up one was, um, I'm not gonna say any names. One of my buddies, he died early off of a drug. And the crazy thing about it was he was a really good kid, nice family. His family had money. They were, you know, he wasn't struggling or anything like that. Like a list family and his mom and died actually died, uh,
early so all of his assets and she was left to him and his sister and his sister was obviously taking care of her little brother but he died so when he died It was like his mom, his mom and dad were already around. So that's I think was the biggest reason probably why he was on drugs, because he didn't have his mom and his father's mom and his father died.
And when his mom and father passed away, that's when he got really bad on drugs, because before his mom and dad died, he wasn't on drugs, but they died in a car crash. So do that car crash when his mom and dad died. He got off drugs. Everything was left to him and his sister. And he ended up passing away. I wasn't too close to his sister. So I don't know what her pain felt like.
But I know my pain felt like I was his friend. And losing a friend is, you know, there's no happy feeling at all. But just to know his story, know where his pain comes from being older now, because back then I didn't really can put the two and two together. Like all this wise guy doing drugs like he's. he has the best life. I'm going over here.
I got a skateboard to school and he's, he's driving out of your school. It's like, you know, it's like, what the, why are you, why is your life so bad where you have to do drugs? I didn't understand the pain that he was going through, you know, whatever his coping mechanism was.
Okay. Um, you know, anybody who's suffering, uh, You send them over here. We'll find a spot for him. My treatment center, Carrera, is the finest treatment facility in the world. We're not getting anybody from the podcast. This is about just talking about drugs and the evils of fentanyl and how it's putting all of our children and our loved ones in harm's way. So that's all this is.
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