Dave Smith
Appearances
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
I've never seen it with Ratsport, but I found out what it was after. But the first time New York thing happening was I was just outside smoking a cigarette on my stoop when I was in East Village. And all of a sudden I was like, hmm, that's weird. Three roaches walking by in the daylight for like, that's kind of weird. You don't see that a lot.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
Just like, you know, it's like three different times, three different roaches. I'm like, that's pretty strange. And then several more. And then I'm telling you, and I'm telling you, you meet within five minutes.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
falling off the buildings Our superintendent came out and he was like what's going on and then we saw make landing on his show He was freaking out and then we went inside came out a couple hours later And there was thousands of them dead on the street, and I go what happened he goes Oh, that's what they do in New York whenever they
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
like bomb a building for uh like roaches it just shoots them to other buildings they just come out so that's what it was just he goes oh one building there's they're probably trying to sell a building so they bombed it for uh roaches and it just sends tens of thousands of them out onto the street oh probably millions i mean i'm talking when i was saying like it wasn't you couldn't take a step and not be stepping on like the carcasses of like 50 of them but they just
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
Black Lives Matter, riots. The bugs? Yeah. Oh, they're still there. Lantern flies. They're back this year. Lantern flies. Oh, yeah, yeah, the lantern flies. They're invasive.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
They're being funded by the UN. I'll tell you that much. They were brought over. They were doing work on the High Line.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
They're almost kind of pretty looking until there's a bunch of them, and they kind of fly I thought they were like beautiful little butterflies, and I was like oh They're nice, and then I heard that they were a problem, and then they skeeved me out like they fuck up plants But they came over The High Line in New York was doing something they brought in plants from China, and they came in you is that why yeah?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
So they came in all through the docks and these plants from China, and now it's just they are there and it's it's crazy It's about a month month and a half They are a, like the roof of my building. You could probably pull that up, Jamie, like New York City lantern flies. You can't go on the roof of my building. There's the same thing, like tens of thousands of them all over there.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
There was a lady up there one time. I walked up there, covered in them like fucking Candyman. It was crazy. They were coming out of her mouth?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
But they're evolving, too, in the fact that the first year that I was aware of them, the first year I was aware of them, you could step on them and they didn't really do much. Now they fly and they run around. Yeah, they'll be in like doorways all over the place. If you have no screen on your window, if you open a window, there will be a hundred of them in a room.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
No. No, and these things are... What did that lady say? They're killing all plants and stuff, too. So it's really bad, but they're like... If you read one article, it's like, here's New York's five-year plan to get rid of the lantern flies. And the next article's like, no, they're just here. Like, this is going to be a month every year. And they came from where? China.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
Yeah, I think. It was in plants that they were bringing, decorative plants. I'm pretty sure Fauci made them. Wow. Stamp it out.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
Anything icky is not my thing. So I went home with a girl years ago from a diner. Turns out she was a tarantula. She was a tarantula. No, it was weird pets and the final straw where I left. We didn't hook up because when she was like, oh, you got to let my albino rat crawl on you. And I was like, I'm just going to go. This is not worth it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
Yeah, the girl I lost my virginity to had an iguana that I hated.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
You said you watched that Chim Crazy thing. It's lonely old women who can throw heartfelt emotion into anything in the world.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
The documentary's not about that lady, but they talk about that situation.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
The mind-blowing thing was that... Is that part of why he, like... Oh, yeah.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
He, uh, that chimp crazy thing, it's... I was blown away, actually, by how much stuff... I mean, like, she made them weirdly self-sufficient on some thing. When she threw them...
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
Mcnuggets mm-hmm it wasn't he opened the McNuggets then they throw him she goes oh and here's your sauce like a sweet like a Sweet and sour sauce and the monkey knows how to go like like rip the lid off and like think yeah, no Weren't dipping it though.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
They crack sodas and drink them. Yep. They don't just, like, bite the top off of a soda thing.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
When someone has to scream, though, like the name they give chimpanzees and stuff, like, Mr. Mintz! Praise God!
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
If you see a bear cub, you're dead already. Tiger cubs look cute. It's nature's dirty trick. It is the awful thing of it. That's the problem with like, they said about like having chimpanzees as pets is like for a while, it's totally fine. And then one day it's just not. And that one that ripped the lady's face off, did you see like that video? They show a video of like
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
They should have known this was kind of going to happen because a kid one time picked up a shoe off the floor that, like, the monkey wanted. And then he goes over and he's coming after him. It looks a little aggressive, but it's still, like, he's not that big, so it doesn't look that scary.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
But then when he just makes a move, like, to grab at the shirt and whatever, and you see the kid, like, almost falls over. He's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. And they have to, like, all kind of... Jump in front of the monkey, like, over something he's unaware. The guy doesn't even know what he did wrong.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
He just grabbed the shoe off the floor, and the monkey wanted that shoe and didn't know how to tell him how to take it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
And no animals have, there's not a lot of emotion in the faces of those, too, especially lizards. So, like, they eat a whole goat and then they're just, like, on the next thing.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
A lot of mountains, that's why. People forget about the, was it Ramapo Mountains? It gets rural as shit.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
Have you ever seen the movie Out of the Furnace? Explores that whole thing. It was Christian Bale, Casey Affleck, Willem Dafoe.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
And Woody Harrelson played the character of those mountain people, just meth trade, cousin fucking. It's really like they make it a weird place. Was that in Pennsylvania or in Jersey? No, it's Jersey side. It's actually... On the border of Maramupo Mountains, I think, yeah.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
It's me with a dad that stuck around and really told me how the world worked.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
He doesn't stop. I'm going to go smoke a cigarette. My eyes are going to pop out.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
I think religion is always the funniest to dial back to, though, because all the organized stuff, you were doing the Joe Smith story, finds the tablets or the plates and everything. Could that be more of a religion that was like pitched by a dude to a bunch of dudes?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
I was the one flight that was able to get out one time to go to Dallas For a gig and they had like it was three inches of snow But the whole place shuts down and the thank God because the car that picked me up to drive me to the hotel that night If there was other cars in the road, dude, it would have been ping-pong Every time he stopped the car would like turn sideways complete because there's nobody else in the road So it didn't really matter
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
They're like no No, they're racist when your women are bearded you ever see sister wives. It's not like you're stoked to have three of them
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
Well, why is no one considering that that long ago people wrote fiction?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
But you know what I'm saying? Also, years ago, no one considers the idea of works of fiction.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
Everything then was just written from the thing versus someone making entertainment.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
And it's like, I don't know, a beast got a hold of him? It can't be all Colosseum, man.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
He goes, I got the good idea! I'm starting with, like, I don't know, a magical school!
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
Do you think the pendulum's gonna swing back to, like, there was a time... Naming kids Jesus? No, but naming kids, like, when there was no actual, like, lines drawn on naming years and years ago as far as, like, race goes, so... My grandmother's boyfriend, when she died, his still name was Jerome. Look at this. There's old white Tyrones. Wait, dude.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
That just stopped one day, and those became black names.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
Oh, yeah, de-icer. De-icer on the wings. Oh, yeah.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
Those are the best. There's so many rapper kids. There's so many rapper kids. Kids you've read named Prince. Yeah, that's fine. Prince is fine.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
But isn't Elon Musk's kid's name like the sounds AOL used to make?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
Arnold Schwarzenegger had a son that was a schlub, and then the one he didn't know he had looked just like him and was shredded and working out constantly. Yeah, it's hilarious. I think the other son's jacked too now. Oh, is he? He had to catch up to him because he was a schlubby kid.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
Tom Hanks has a son that became another Tom Hanks person, tucking in his polo shirts on a Sunday, and then one went full wigger.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
Yeah, you've never met awesome Chaz. Chaz Palminteri is the exception to the rule. That's not what you picture when you picture a Chaz.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
Well, I believe all the bullshit I read right away where they're like, Michael Keaton's only in it for 10 minutes. Well, that was the point.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
I just don't want to know anything. I'm like, they got to back up for that. That's my thing. I always remember talking to, I think it was Ben Bailey years ago, and I was like, you know, it's so funny. The more I fly, the more I'm afraid of flying somehow. I go, but I have to just assume. Planes are designed that, like, if all fails, like, they're designed to kind of be able to be glided to safety.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
Yeah, that's really the thing. What's the worst thing you got caught stealing? Mine was stuffing porn magazines down the front of my pants and putting my shirt over it. And I mean, the guy at the farm... Oh, my God, try reselling that now. The guy at the drugstore... The guy at the drugstore was baiting me to do it. Like, he couldn't wait... He was baiting you? Like, he was leaving porn out?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
No, no, no, no. The porn section was in this magazine.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
No, no, no, he didn't trick me. He just... A porno mag, and then he's got, like, a fishing rod.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
It was intrepid. Yeah, no, baiting is the wrong word for him. He knew I was getting ready. He felt that I was waiting to find my moment. He could have stopped you before you did the climb? He could have stopped me before I did it and said, hey, you can't be in here unless you're going to blah, blah, blah. I kind of made notice. He laid back, and I was kind of like, he knows? I'm like, I guess not.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
He's just sitting there. And then an old man spinning you around and lifting your shirt to show the half a porn magazine sticking up.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
My biggest steal wasn't even for money or anything. I was staying at my grandmother's friend's house. My aunt and he and Uncle Herb. And Uncle Herb had a nice stack of porn magazines that I found. There's a pattern. There's a pattern. No, this is funny. Well, this is one I thought I'd get away with for no reason. I took a few.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
This is proverbially that because I took a few of his giant stack being like, he'll never miss these. And if he does, he's not going to think it was me. And if he does think it's me, we're going to have this quiet code of like, what are you going to tell my mom? I took your porn. It's like so many people have to find out about your porn magazines now. That's exactly what he did.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
He didn't give a shit. He was like, I want my porn magazines back. And then went down the channels from my grandmom to my mom. And I was like, oh, did I grab these? Oh, shit.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
Oh, dude, that's such an embarrassing to get a phone call. Your Uncle Herb wants his.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
You should look into that. And he was like, no, if you lose all the engines, he goes, no, if you lose all the engines, it nosedives directly to the ground.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
Yeah, of course. You just hope that it was wet for the right reasons.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
You can't let them have you. The first time you see someone with authority in your life or something... have to realize like a can't win situation is awkward. Do you know what I mean? Like seeing a cop have to like kind of surrender or have to give up. My step-pop when we were younger, we were driving back. My step-pop was like a power lifter always.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
Like a big, like a tough guy to me, I always thought. And we were driving back from the Philadelphia Zoo one day through Fairmount Park, and they had shut it down for what's called the Greek Picnic, which is all the black fraternities party in this big, giant park.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
I love the argument he's not a hero. I love the argument that he's not. It always makes me laugh. They're like, he did his job. He goes... Sure.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
but they my step see my step these guys were coming and they were just walking all through the street all these like black frat dudes and like it was a traffic jam because they're in the middle of the street and sitting like on the hood of our car and stuff like that oh no and my step pop just being like I just see him just kind of sitting there kind of eating it and like realizing and I was like
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
It was almost like that, Joe, why aren't you going to? You know what? You're right.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
I was telling these guys yesterday, I saw a video where it's a guy, I don't know if people are filming anything now, it's a guy in Times Square who films himself going up and just talk robbing a guy. Like, just talk. He just goes, hey man, come here, come here. He goes, you're doing a new documentary called I Just Got Robbed. He's like, what? He goes, I'm going to need your wallet. Don't run.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
Don't be weird. He's just like, intimidate. The guy's name is Rob. He's clever. The kid's so... Happy that he's not getting beat up and just nervous in the world that he's not getting beat up like he Pleasantly like gives him everything and it's kind of like now go over there He's like all right, man. Be easy man. Be easy and the guys like all right, man.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
Cool He just gives him his stuff and walks away. It's it gives him his stuff back. No It's pretty nuts it's real It seems very, very real.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
No, I think this happens all the time. People get arrested, actually, for it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
There's people who film somebody holding their guns and say, I'm about to go kill so-and-so.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
Oh, my God. Jesus. Yeah. I stopped paying attention when you said they may have been black or Puerto Rican, and you said selling candy for their football team or whatever. I'm like, it definitely was black or Puerto Rican. No, no, no.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
Never had a white kid try to run the old buy some M&Ms from me scam.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
On coke. I also wish there was like a drag queen that would do something heroic so everyone's got to like praise the things of like, you know, like cunt lips, thunder tits. They always got stupid names.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
But does that guy, does the guy, the idiot who keeps jumping over the car and lighting the fire in the middle, does he look back like, is he 55 one day going like, oh yeah, I was a little... Do you think he lives to be 55? No, probably not. He probably dies under a donut of a fucking souped up SUV.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
No, maybe, but I'm saying, but there's just those guys, like, I don't know how you, like, grow up out of that that's going to be something that really nails it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
They would drag race though in Philly. They would like stop, block off streets and like drag race.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
Oh, it comes from a Bay Area rapper, Richie Rich's sideshow. Damn Bancroft to the light. Let me warm it up. I hit a donut tight. Rap sucks. I hit a donut type Chevy on my side, window straight tinted. He got hype when he saw me spinning. I'm, yeah. Who likes this?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
I know. I love tons of rap. Whatever that was was terrible.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
You're trying to lower the level. We have to rap battle this Friday Although I have a feeling it's gonna be better than what I did, but if we find the song sideways or whatever I bet that guy doesn't kill it It's all that because that has to come from the air. What's the 90s? I guess so so it might not be mumble rap, right?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
Well, that was the worst rap beef ending ever. It was like NWA split up from Ice Cube, and then Dr. Dre left, and him and his E went and did their own thing, and then that beef ended in an AIDS death. You don't see those ones happen anymore.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
Uber dropped us off at the completely right spot in his mind.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
You know what kids are lacking these days? The most aggressive gays yelling at them.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
Well, they did the song Jackin' for Beats, and that's when he made the song It's Everybody Else's. It keeps changing to all the most popular beats, and he just does rap. Oh, it's great.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
We got to play it. Can I tell you that one of my favorite lyrics that never stood out to me when I was younger but always makes me laugh and my mind's playing tricks on me is when Bushwick Bill, you know, he's a midget, and then he sings a song. He goes, this wasn't no ordinary dude. He stood about six or seven feet.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
When Bill Maher said the N-word on his show, and then the next week had to give his apology to Ice Cube was the funniest thing in the world. What a weird person to have to do it. And then he just goes, I'm really sorry, Ice Cube. And Ice Cube's like, well, Bill Maher. This is a good moment to teach you something.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
Did you ever hear Everclear, when he tells the whole story of making his girlfriend shoot him in the eye?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
I know, but the flow of it doesn't seem anymore. Yeah. It seems bubbly.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
Can you imagine being a woman being abused by a black midget and he makes you shoot him in the eye?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, also what's strange is, again, seeing, we'll never know what, how corny or not an old Biggie or Tupac would have been. Oh, yeah. So it's funny seeing like, it's not that he's corny, but he's just an older guy. You know what I mean? This guy doesn't live any kind of gangster life.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
No, no, no. What are you saying? I'm saying that you get to see how people would become. No, it's not corny at all, but it's much softer energy than you ever thought of Scarface in the 80s and 90s.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
If you told me this was a guy who was in the roots or something, you'd be like, yeah, yeah, yeah. That makes sense.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
He was one of the people performing. It's so funny. seeing the people who get what's happening there versus the performers who don't because He was up there. He knows but he's been with that audience. I think tech nine also does that so he Does all the family chants and stuff?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
DJ Paul and he just gets that crowd gets him going but they throw shit constantly and do all kinds of crazy shit Rock him went up there And if I rock him back the third song and like, you know, they were throwing shit to stay, but they're into it, the audience. And then he just kind of stops the song. He goes, Hey, I ain't about that fuck shit throwing stuff, man.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
So you could throw shit and we could leave or we could do some rap music. And the crowd was just kind of like,
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
No, no, no. I think they were a little more like, oh, this is our thing.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
Yeah, Upchuck the Clown. His name's Joel. He's a comic from Michigan. He still runs it. He just doesn't do it anymore.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
No, Lewis had on, he put on the gas mask weed thing. You couldn't even talk through that weed. That was my closer. Of course. And then Mike Vecchione went out, and I was the only one that was booked on it. I was just like, they want me to do a show, so if they were with me on another gig, I'm like, come and we'll do this one. And you guys go on.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
So Mike Vecchione goes on, and they're not paying attention to him and yelling at him. And I remember he kind of looked at me off the side of the stage, and I was like, you can wrap it up. Like, I'll go eat the rest of this shit. I remember one of his premises, though. No, I remember the premise, because he goes... I said, you know that feeling when it's going rough and you see the light?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
Somehow you even have another five-minute burst in you because you know you are done. So let me see what I can do now. It's almost like that freeing thing. So I gave Vecchio and that kind of like, you can wrap it up, dude. And he goes, and I almost saw his energy change. And he just goes, he's going to do his last big joke or whatever. And he goes, so hey, guys, I had a dream last night.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
And I don't think he finished a bit. And then he brought me up. And then I was supposed to do like 45, of which I did 20 maybe, because I remember saying, where they got mad at me, I asked them why there's, to rap festival with no black people. And then a black guy stood up and he was like, how about me? And I went, one jug of bro. And then they just booed and someone yelled, they all bleed clown.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
You shouldn't have porn stars reading books to kids either.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
It's just about clowns killing people Great beat it's horror rap I am thoroughly I said that festivals pretty amazing I'm thoroughly so just always impressive the music is subjective to anybody, but I'm like what they've done. I think's amazing I mean they are world famous known. They just did the VMAs.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
On that, too, is to kind of keep ourselves a little safe from...
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
There's a few other ones, but nobody... Well, they do it, but some say no one catches on.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
I told you yesterday, right, the guy's name I asked you about because I just found him yesterday was Kirk. Charlie Kirk? Charlie Kirk.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
I watch him and Ben Shapiro yell at college kids. That's the video.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
One girl was getting dominated on the thing, and I was going to say that, like, she even says it where I do. Like, even though I'm kind of like, lady, you sound dumb, I felt genuinely bad for her when she goes... He gave her like some kind of smarmy like, you know, and she just kind of goes, she's like, well, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm nervous. Like, I don't talk on microphone a lot.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
Like, I think you do. So like, I'm sorry. And I was almost like, yeah, dude, like you're good.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
You're like housing her. And when no one, she says something and everyone's around starts booing and she starts kind of like smiling, but it's not a smile of like, bring it on. She's doing the smile of like, I don't know what to do. Like, she's like scary. I've just been frozen before a lot. It makes me feel bad.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
Oh, that's what it does. That's one of making someone famous on America's Got Talent, something like that. And you're like, what are you doing?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
That will... He did Robin Hood Men in Tights when he was 19, I believe.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
Couldn't read, so that's how Eddie Murphy got the gig.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
That's why he lost the gig because he couldn't read the scripts. Yeah, he was pretty popular. Charlie Barnett was in DC Cab, right? A couple things.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
He was popping, and then yeah, he couldn't read the cue cards, so they had to hire Eddie Murphy.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
I said I watched it because I'm very lazy. No, I watched Patrice. It's a complete mimic of Patrice's things. It was watching him go from standing to sitting and seeing that the crowd... Some of the people that took him in is very like he's like looming over them and saying he's like crazy things like being like turned off by that to seeing when he was laying back and letting them come into him.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
He could say like much more people like embrace that they were leaning into him.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
And when you're a big guy, so that's why I felt like I was a big presence. I was like, I'm going to say all this kind of crazy shit, like, when I'm over them, it looks like I'm, like, pointing down at them.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
Instead of letting them kind of, like, come into the stage.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2205 - Legion of Skanks
When I started in the black comedy clubs, man, I was doing a straight Chris Rock pace nonstop. A lot of...
The Joe Rogan Experience
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The guy right before me just got booed. I couldn't even hear what he got booed for. I just know he followed a handicapped guy who gave a sweet emotional speech about being handicapable, and then he walked off. And I said, the other guy just got out there, and they were like, Fuck this biped, piece of shit.
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What was funny was when we were at about, I don't know, three quarters into our... three-quarter mile walk here you sent somebody over to come get us and he pulled up in a car uh and he goes he goes you guys for joe right and he said yeah and he goes follow me and then just drove away in the car you know what you were too sweaty yeah that's what it was
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Generally speaking, it's not likely. Schumer had a thing one time. She said, I saw her on stage at the Cellar once, and it was about her and her boyfriend meeting Kate Upton. And she walked away to go get something to drink or whatever. When he came back, he was like, her husband said to Amy, he was like, she's great, man. She said the funniest story. I was like, fuck you, dude.
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People are like, dude, George Clooney, that prankster, he's the best. That guy is the funniest dude. He's fine at best, I'm sure. Relax.
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I would also stay home with $30 million in the bank. Imagine twirling a Tom Collins with your finger on a raft.
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Yeah, by the time you got your horse to the next place with the information, more people have died.
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I think that always when I watch Tombstone and stuff, and Kurt Russell and a girl went off into the woods to go kiss, I'm like, I bet her armpits smell like shit. She has gum disease.
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I'll tell you who is right now nodding their head. He goes, yeah, that's why I'm the guy who invented that bag that goes behind the horse's asses.
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It's reading time with Deshaun. I don't know, dude.
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Well, my grandmother, it was funny, the neighborhood I grew up in was Jewish and black, and then down the next neighborhood was Italian. Yeah. Everyone started, but it became predominantly black by the time I moved out. My grandmother, until like two years before she died, was in a nursing home, stayed in that house, and did not scare the old people at all.
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It didn't, like, as it changed around them, it didn't scare. There would be literally people, like, on her front step, like her neighbors, like a bunch of teenagers, like rapping with a loud stereo, and she would just be like, oh, they're nice. At least they're not trans. They call me Miss Jeanette, and so whatever. My grandma was delightfully racist. Yeah.
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It's not my fault. Yeah, that's what the original Good Will Hunting was.
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Not you. I just go hug black people in Good Will Hunting. That's what I call it. It's not your fault. It's not my fault. It's not your fault. Not you, Jay.
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I watched the trailer today. What's it out on there? It's really funny. I've heard great things about it.
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Well, the trailer says it's a comedy. Yeah. It calls it a comedy. It is a comedy. I don't think the other one really was pushed as that.
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The trans woman he asked outside was the best because he was like, well, what is a woman? And she goes, I think I want to go.
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It's a thing that happened in Canada. In Canada, a guy got sent to jail for mischief. He wouldn't agree to call his son a daughter or vice versa. I mean, how many people are actually legitimately trans?
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Most ironically, if you were Asian, you would have been better at both things.
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If I became a woman, though, I already know what I'm fucking.
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What's to be said for feeling how you feel and also just not giving a shit? Do you know what I'm saying? I feel like, as I said before, I think they should not give hormones or any kind of operations to... children to, you know, change their gender.
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But also, if they're like, they're not making it illegal, they're doing it, I'm like, well, now I want to see a five-year-old with tits. Like, now I want to see it.
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I just want to go, they already did it, so I'm going to go, let me see.
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But wouldn't you be weirded out if your kids had like a face tattoo teacher at all?
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Especially when we came out of the water, our dicks were so small.
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I don't want people to see this I hope we don't find out our Sebastian's not gonna be talking about
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By the way, that's the only one that's uncircumcised of all these.
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No, no, absolutely. But also, I just mean, also just for the idea that, like, even though I said post, I don't think a teacher with face tattoos might be the best teacher, like, in the world. I just think it's like, as a parent, you'd walk in and be like, who's this motherfucker?
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It's soft for that guy's body. Yeah, but everybody can't stay fucking boned up while they're posing for the fucking statue.
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Yeah, it looks like sometimes he just fucked. Sometimes he just got out of the shower.
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I don't like it at all. And taking a little bouncy dick walk to a shower. Nuts. My little bird. Yeah. Now fuck that.
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I think it's just a locker. She's going to a woman's locker room in general.
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I've gotten real good at calling people the gender they want. If they... Like, I still will fuck it up, but I find I'm pretty good at it. If they look like a girl, if it's a guy transitioning to a girl, and they look like a girl, I say, I'm pretty good at all this she, but if I fuck it up, look at yourself. That means that you...
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You're not shaving enough, or you haven't done whatever it is to make me call you, because I'm pretty good at calling trans girls girls.
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Now it is a sign of cool. If you see someone with a button-down shirt and this part of the arm you see is completely done, you're like, all right, quite cool guy.
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You would get beat up in the West Village by a trans... Well, what's the one that's why I loved that was the GameStop video, right? Yeah, the famous one right was like it's ma'am That's not how ma'am GameStop and they're just going like okay, sir They start kicking over PlayStation.
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It was one of the very few points that I've had seeing the other side of it that I didn't for a long time. Until kind of recently. It's like the argument in sports is almost like, oh, they're going to dominate and kick ass. And it's basically a guy beating up a girl in this fight and all those things. But then it was the scholarship thing. I don't know why that never dawned on me before.
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It's like, no, these girls are like, I was going to be the number one recruit out of my school. For sure. And then this girl came in and made me look like I'm terrible because she's 6'5 and 35 pounds more than me.
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Is there no rational sect of the trans community? I don't know if I've ever heard someone in the trans community come out and agree with that sentiment. It's like, oh yes, no, we shouldn't be.
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Let's go, champ. That's our generation. Let's go, champ. I'm judging the town for letting the girl play T-ball. Yeah, that's crazy. Ah! It is. It's dangerous.
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I'll tell you what. I have a feeling he was like, I don't want to do this. But then you can really get out of it by making a nice speech like that. It's pretty great.
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When someone you're afraid to fight says they're going to fight you after school and you go... It just what's that when we break the cycle of violence?
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But isn't that essentially what someone gets the surgery is doing?
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You're never going to hear a thing where someone goes, you cut your dick off? Best thing I ever did.
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How can these ladies not tell that they're at the end of the dick when they're jumping up so high?
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They're having a good time. But you know we're walking on, I know, I know when we're on the tightrope. When we're walking that tightrope, the come-ups are coming up too high on her.
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Guys, while we have a lull, can I talk to you about my new propulsion system? Jamie, the PowerPoint presentation, please. It is so funny coming into this room and thinking of all the things I've watched that are made such like, whether it be the Cat Williams thing or fucking, I mean, that was wild. The one I just said, Terrence Howard.
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Well, I like when he was doing a he goes well then Joe you have to understand because the um the um Fon to Julie's there were it was like words that I don't think what they were things Maybe they were I think some of them were things but others they're things that he invented like he knew whatever you want.
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I was in Utah where it was like 50 degrees, and then I came right here to Austin It was like 98 when I got out of the car like I forgot yeah Doesn't end in Texas it lasts a long time, but it does get winter here and
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Including me, I agree. Dave speaking at the thing was the funniest when he goes, Donald Trump's going to come up here. And we're going to show him that we know how to act and behave. And because we are the right party.
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His voice is too cool to be a nerd. That's what I think the problem, the disconnect I have is. He's like, come on, Joe. It's simple. Too cool, too handsome. Hydrogen plus nitrogen makes everything fly.
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Well, I don't have any money for Terrence Howard and his projects. I gave it all to Eddie Winslow from Family Matters to clean up the ocean machine he's building.
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I know. People also make things that young and get this kind of thing. I feel like their later-in-life lash out is what ends up being crazy.
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Yeah, they gave up all their fun stuff, so then it's just too wild afterwards.
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Oh, yeah. Once you shave those bitches down, there's usually something hot under there.
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Is 3D printing better for the environment? And he becomes a cokehead partier a little bit later, or he dies like a whale ate him while he was helping clean up the thing. Right.
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Can sanitation be one of the last mafia-run businesses?
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Which wasn't, like, much thought put into, like, the down-the-road times. Now it's just weird.
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There's plastic bags everywhere. And then one time they'll tell you, it goes, no, they're completely illegal now. And then a month later, there is plastic bags.
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I said to my girlfriend a bunch at the store when she's been like, oh, let's go. Well, wait, I'm going to run back to the apartment. I forgot to get the bags. I'm like, we're going to buy new.
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That was always like a heppy thing, like if you could find even clothes legal. Woody Harrelson was real big on hemp for a long time.
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Here we go. So, you know, like- You know, we yelled at Kurt about this. He came in and he goes, P. Diddy definitely fucked everybody and did this and raped everyone. And then we're like, well, how do you know? He's like, I read. He doesn't really mean anything. You're always reading somebody else's numbers.
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That's crazy. Lewis, I'm going to buy you a silk shirt and shoot you with an arrow.
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All people like that always have weird facial hair.
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Bring up a thing that tells me I was wrong from front to back.
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Well, I know, but if I went to this, I would go home and I'd go, I can't believe there's only 45 people in this thing. This is the coolest thing I've ever seen in my life. Do you ever have a giant turkey leg and a giant goblet? Guys, they got everything. Rams, that's fair. They got the dart game where you can win the animal.
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I went to one of these parties, and man, P. Diddy was like, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go fuck Meek Mill in the butt. But that's never going to happen. No one comes out and says that.
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I'd rather do that than slapbox with an MMA person.
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Lewis, let's me and you play this game with spears. Let's go, dude.
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Yeah, the sound like seizing up and shit like I was listening to Howard Stern the other day It was an old one where they were talking the people that were good old days the Pia the people that were trying to get on Like that the one-way trip to Mars they were gonna try to do it was from years like 2012 and they said it wasn't gonna go until 2020 some which I don't think ever end up happening, but like like there was they said it was thousands of people
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Were trying to get on that mission one-way trip to die on Mars. Yeah thousands Yeah, that I said it had to be whittled down by the way. It's being whittled down to like 16 people so it was not a lot of people but they was like oh yeah you had to go through and it's like How many doctors and all guys pretty crazy like how much people are willing to do some nutty people, bro?
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There's a lot of people out there that want to end it They said for sure you they said without for sure, but they said odds are you definitely will never make it to Mars and And if you get there, it's everything just kind of like you're probably going to die en route. You're always going to have people that want to sign up for that kind of stuff.
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And they don't touch the... See if you can find the image.
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There hasn't been one person who can climb it who can, like... No. No, they're saying one person that can climb it that's done, like, something shitty to the stuff up there. Yeah, make him suck his own dick. Like, kick the head off.
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I can't believe how many people agree to do death sentences. But then there's something like the submersible thing that was just like, everyone was like cheersing champagne, like this is the best. And then it just ends immediately.
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We're an acoustic guitar song up there. It's pretty gay.
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What happened to your dad? His shoe didn't open. Motorbike riding. Yeah, exactly. Motorcycle. It was raining and he turned on his motorcycle a little too fast.
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He's doing all right. I'll give him some notes, but... Man, I'll tell you what, though, his... His on-air stuff, his accoutrement to the table is very different than ours. It's cooler than ours. We just have a racist bear. We have a racist bear.
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We are. But no one's ever made his art out of drums or stuff like that.
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Oh, isn't this like a Tyrannosaurus windpipe or something? I don't even think I'm wrong about that. I think it's something like that. Jamie, is that what we're looking at?
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Everybody take a little thing. Dave, take a commemorative coin. I'm gonna take Dice's cigarette. Nah, I don't need to steal anything. I'll be back. Maybe we should leave something.
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Oh, we're having fun, boys. I don't think so. Jamie was telling us about this unfrozen walrus dick or something.
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That's why they're always hailing Hitler. Big fancy.
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Don't they all have bones? Isn't the Loch Ness Monster actually like a whale flipping upside down and his cock coming out of the water?
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But they said it's actually, if you see a whale flipping over on its back and its dick comes out, it's what it looks like. They said it probably much could have been that.
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The cool ones? It says gorilla and chimpanzees. The baculum of the dog's penis. Did you watch that thing yet? The lady who, the chimp crazy on HBO? I loved it.
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Constantly jerking off and throwing shit at each other.
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A wolf dick would rule. Yeah. A bear dick. With a nice open shirt.
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Viagra tries to stop bulletproof skin because this thing goes all the way up the ladder. You've got to follow the money.
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Bro. Is this the skull of a Wendigo, an evil mythical forest creature?
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Wasn't that L. Ron Hubbard, though? L. Ron Hubbard was like, hey, this will be funny. I'll start this and go into this, start a religion. And then, like, years later, he said when his friends he told that to hit him up, like, this is crazy, dude. You did it. He's like, you know, you ran that scam. And he's like, scam? You better get your thetan levels checked. He just started eating his own shit.
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Oh, is it the guy that was, he's riding like the fan boat through it and then all of a sudden like the ground is more...
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#2205 - Legion of Skanks
Dude, kill on sight is a funny thing. If you're unarmed, you just see what's out there, they go, wow. Government said, I gotta kill this thing on sight. Like, let's go, motherfucker.
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You don't know that, Joe. I might be able to tickle a fucking alligator.
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Not for the migrants, dude. They just grab them, break their neck, and cook them up. That's the better way to do it, really. Yeah, no buckshot needed. No buckshot needed.
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They don't know any better yet. Just, oh, yeah. I assume you can't just eat, like, lake duck. You could. Can you? Yeah, you could. I mean, I'm sure you could eat, but I'm saying, is that, like, is there any kind of good? It doesn't taste good.
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Do you remember the Dianetics commercials? Do you remember the commercials with the volcano, like the lava was going off, and it just gave you like... like the most generalized things anyone feels. He goes, are you sometimes tired and sometimes awake?
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It's pretty wacky. We went fishing on a perch tour this summer, and they caught a fish. I thought he was going to gut the fish right there on the boat, but what he was doing was when you pull them up very fast, they get the bends. So it looks so violent, but they're actually saving the fish. They're going to throw them back, and they just like...
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It looks like a wacky, like a card you'd get at Spencer's.
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Well, we've never really gone. That's what Total Recall said happens on Mars.
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800 pounds. Oh yeah, a Jew fish eating your baby? Let's spread that rumor.
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Yeah, it was great Oh, yeah, they I get like sent to like a bucket. Yes Crazy that was a little that is a little easy. It's New York right yeah, oh His system of mice and rats, and it just catches them and puts them in the buckets to drown. And then at the end of the month, he just has like a bucket of mice, and it's so crazy.
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I measure people in rats. Do you know that rats eat cockroaches and cockroaches eat rat shit?
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Although we do have a rat czar now, so maybe she's doing her shit.
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What's going to be not safe for work? A girl saying it with her pussy?
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I didn't realize until I lived in the city what a problem that is. Rats will go inside you. If you leave your car, like, sitting for days at a time, rats will get inside and, like, chew, like, wires and fucking, like, fuck your car. It's crazy.
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That's really, really tough, dude. It's really tough to find. There's still people out there who will find a way to try to justify it. But it's tough. It's it's much tougher.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
I was just watching this interview. I'm blanking on the doctor's name, but it was Dave DeCamp was interviewing him, who's, by the way, phenomenal, one of the best reporters in the country. DeCamp, Dave, D-E-C-A-M-P, Dave is his Twitter handle. He's phenomenal. I'll follow him right now. He's great, dude. He's great. He's over at antiwar.com. He's like Scott Horton's guy.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
By the way, my guy Scott Horton just gave you and Jamie a copy of the book. Unprovoked is going to be out I think in the next week or so. I'm sorry, provoked. I didn't mean to say unprovoked. It's provokedbook.com, the best book written on the history of the Ukraine-Russia conflict. How America just blew it at every single opportunity.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Anyway, so Dave DeCamp is interviewing this guy who's a doctor. He's an American who went over to Gaza and was a doctor. And there was a big piece in the New York Times written about this where he said that every day that he was there, every single day, they'd treat toddlers with bullets to the head. that they were just constantly seeing this.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And then he says that he also talked to a whole bunch of other, so his working theory on this was, when he first started seeing this, so he's in this one area in Gaza, and he was embedded there for a few months working at a hospital, and he figured there was like some lone sadistic sniper out there You know what I mean? Like these things happen in war.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
But then he started talking to doctors from all other points of Gaza who were there at all different times who all said the same thing, that they're getting toddlers with bullet wounds. And then when the New York Times published this, a bunch of people who were defending Israel started being like, this isn't true, blah, blah, blah, the Israeli most moral fighting force in the world.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And that's what you ran on and won on. I want Lindsey Graham to start a podcast.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
So he published the x-rays. He's like, okay, I'm a doctor. I have the x-rays right here. They published them. It just 100% is happening. So what is happening? I mean, Israel's been on a mass slaughter campaign of a captive people for over a year now, you know? And they're shooting babies. Evidently. I mean, there's a doctor who's he's an American. He's claiming it happened and he has x-rays.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
So, yeah, it seems like that's what's going on there. And I mean, look, it's it's.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
obviously just so horrific man the whole thing so it's it's really amazing to me the way to watch the way people will rationalize and justify what israel is doing it takes so much mental gymnastics and it's always got to like rely on you know it just it lets you know it's like oh so i get it you see it's like oh how human beings through all of human history have had slavery and
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#2225 - Dave Smith
and genocides and ethnic cleansing campaigns. And at every step, there's someone there who's willing to justify it and explain why we have to do this because this is the only way. And really, we're acting in defense. That's what they all claim. It's what the Nazis claim. It's what they all claim. They're really acting in defense.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
How were you allowed to just like – and it's amazing the way people can compartmentalize it too. You know what I mean? Like it could just be like, hey, there's somebody who could be a totally loving dad and a good husband and all like that but then can go to war and commit like – unspeakable horrors on other people. It's just like they put that over here, you know?
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#2225 - Dave Smith
It's very hard to think about that or understand it, but it is- Unless you talk to someone who's done it and they- Yeah.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
You can't do it. You wouldn't be able to consume it. Impossible.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And it's been demonstrated to really help, at least a lot.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
It was amazing. Dude, I don't even like. Maybe I should. No, he deserves it. But did you ever see the thing when he was running for president? Wait, he ran for president? Lindsey Graham ran for president. That's amazing. In 2016. Imagine the hubris. I think Trump gave his phone number out.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Think about the irony. Like the deep, deep irony that they made this stuff illegal because they thought if it was out there, they wouldn't be able to get their wars. So they make it illegal and they get their wars. And then it turns out that this is the thing that helps the people that are traumatized coming back from war. But you can't have it because it's illegal.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Well, it's the clearest shift in culture. Is that irony? It's something like that.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
I know my buddy Michael Heiss, he just started a media company called Dissident Media. He's been big on this. He's like an activist who's been working on the decriminalization of psilocybin for years. And that's one of the major reasons because it helps these soldiers so much. We need to be kinder.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
You don't remember that it was like because he was like attacking Donald Trump for probably not being an awful war hawk or something like that and Donald Trump like said something about how he used to call him and ask for money You know when he was running for a campaign that he just gave his phone number He made a senator change his phone number That's like a chill sun and move.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
No one's making a good car on cocaine. You need the psychedelics to make a cool car.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Yeah, and if you've ever done psychedelics, you listen to that music and you're like, oh, I know what inspired this. This is pretty easy to tell.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Yeah. And look, man, I mean that, I think that's a great message to get to Trump. Like let these guys, like they were, they were like the bravest amongst us who got totally tricked and bribed and propagandized into going to these wars. And then they come back and they're blowing their brains out by the tens of thousands. And there's just something that might help.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
That is very low risk of, of, uh, Almost no risk of actually hurting, and it really might help. No risk of addiction. But even better than that, man, would just be keep us out of these wars.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Let's just not fight them, man. And look, I will say, this is one of the things that I'm really optimistic about, is that of that team that we were talking about earlier, that Donald Trump's got around him, all those people like Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy and J.D. Vance and Tucker Carlson and all these guys, David Sachs, David Sachs is probably the best. They're so good on Ukraine.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Every one of them. Like they're all just like, yeah, no, this makes no sense. This is such a clear cut situation where you could easily make a deal. Vladimir Putin. And I know I've talked about this on past shows and anybody go listen to those and go read Scott Horton's amazing book provoked. But just to just very quickly. It is all but accepted at this point. Nobody's even debated.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
When I first came on, the first podcast that we talked about Ukraine, a few years ago now, when I said, oh, there was a peace deal that was agreed to in principle by Ukraine and Russia, and then Boris Johnson came in on behalf of the U.S. to make sure they didn't negotiate a peace and kept the war going, there were a bunch of people who were like, oh, that's not true, and blah, blah, blah.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And now it's just been totally like, 100% I was right about that. They had a peace deal worked out.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And then since then, the guy whose name I always butcher, but it's Norwegian, so I don't know how to, Strasselberger, the head of NATO, he came out and said, and he was bragging, but he goes, you know, Vladimir Putin, before he invaded Ukraine, told us that if we just put it in writing that we would not bring Ukraine into NATO, that he wouldn't invade.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And we told him, no, because we won't be bullied by you. So he's like bragging about how they had an opportunity. All they had to do was say, we will not bring your biggest neighbor into our military alliance, which is very clearly against you. The most reasonable demand. Now, I'm not saying it's reasonable that he invaded. That's not reasonable. But it is a totally reasonable demand if the U.S.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
was to say, now Mexico can't be a part of China's military alliance. Seems super reasonable. So he's got so many great people around him on that. But... I don't, it's not exactly the same with the Israel-Gaza war, where it seems like a lot of the people around him are not so great on that. Some of them are. Some of them are really good on that.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Amazing. But he said Lindsey Graham was asked about being the first single president. Yeah, never married, no kids. And he goes, there might be a bunch of different first ladies if I was in their life.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Listen, I voted for him. I've been supporting him and stuff. Yeah. But, you know, I think I would love to do that. But I just, whether it's me or not, I just hope that he gets the message through somehow. And I know it's a complicated thing to navigate because Israel has a lot of influence. on our government.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And he's got people like Vivek Ramaswamy and Tucker Carlson who really are non-interventionists and don't want to see American taxpayer dollars being used to fund wars around the world, no matter who it's for. It's like, hey, we're broke. We got our own problems here and we can't afford to do this. But then he also has...
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Miriam Adelson, who cut him $100 million and is probably going to give another $100 or $200 million to congressional candidates in the next midterm election and all of this. And she is singularly focused on one issue. And that issue is that we always unconditionally and unwaveringly support Israel, no matter what they're doing.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Well, thank you. And that means a lot to me, particularly just because it's coming from you, dude. And I'm like, dude, I've been so goddamn impressed with you since well before I ever knew you. And I'll tell you, after the last couple weeks, dude, I'm like, I just can't even believe it. I can't even believe it's real, dude. But thank you. Thank you for having me again.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
I typically wouldn't go after someone for that. But when you're a war hawk, all is fair. But he's got to keep those people away from a man. And that really was his failure in his first term. And look, I do understand him saying, I don't know. He was an outsider. He had never lived in Washington, D.C. He didn't know all these people. But he's had a lot of time. This is eight years later.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And he's got a great core of people around him. And those are the people to take advice from. It's like Mr. President. Well, they're on it. If you're listening. They're on it right now. Talk to Rand Paul. Rand Paul will tell you who to put in those positions. Talk to Thomas Massey. I just saw he floated out Thomas Massey for, I can't remember what position it was. That's great.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Put those guys in there. These are the America first guys, okay? And it's not Mike Pompeo. It's not the war machine, dude. And also... You know, look, his rhetoric was so great on Ukraine through the election. And when he had the courage to just say, like, no, I want the dying to stop. That was one of the best moments of the entire campaign. But his rhetoric on Israel has been very bad.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
He was like, they charge 500 grand for, yeah. He's right.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And the other thing that you can't get around is that, like, listen, you can love Israel all you want to, and you can pledge to help defend them or whatever. But, no, I'm okay. But, uh... But Netanyahu is John McCain.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And I couldn't, even after we got off the phone last night, I was like, I'm going to go to bed. And then I just had to watch clips.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
I mean, he's Mike Pompeo. He's Liz Cheney or Nikki Haley. He's the guy who came over and testified in 2002 before a congressional hearing and advocated that we overthrow Saddam Hussein and also advocated that we go have a regime change war in Iran, which he still wants to this day. He advocated we had the regime change in Libya, in Syria. I mean, he's John McCain. That's not America first.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
That's not, you know what I mean? That's not this, we're not fighting stupid wars anymore. So love Israel all you want to, but we're not with Bibi Netanyahu. That's something else. That's the opposite of America first.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
I think there's real possibilities for it. And I think that that's a huge component of it, the team that he's got around him. And I would also put, I would put Tucker Carlson in that camp too, because I think he is very influential on his thinking. I think in many ways he's kind of- Although he does think demons made nuclear bombs. And look, 50-50 shot he's right about that.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
I'm not saying he's, but when it comes to policy, I'm saying he's very spot on on that. I love the guy. Don't get me wrong. No, me too. And who knows?
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Yeah. Scratched him up. I did see that. And I wasn't sure. When I was watching it, I was like, is this like a Halloween thing that he's doing?
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#2225 - Dave Smith
They bar you for a little bit. They freak you out. Do you think demons are bummed about that? They're like, did you kill anyone today? And they're like, we can only really scratch people. Tucker thinks aliens are demons.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Yeah, I'm not convinced of that, but I do think he's really, I think he's great on war and immigration. He is. He's a brilliant guy. But I do think another huge component of why Trump's got such an opportunity right now is because you see it where, like I was saying, the protesters aren't there anymore. There's a whole lot of really interesting reasons, I think, for why that is.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
But also, and I was getting in an argument on Twitter the other day with Michael Tracy, who I do like and respect very much. But I was basically saying that I think this is going to be a death blow for the corporate media if Donald Trump wins again. And this is almost the best thing about him winning again. And he was saying, which is a reasonable argument, but I disagree with him.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
But he was saying, well, no, Dave. I mean, look, last time he was in for four years, that was the best thing that ever happened to CNN and MSNBC. And they got a big ratings boost when he was in. But I don't think that's going to work again.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Well, the thing is that so much of that ratings boost was completely driven by the Russiagate nonsense. And what they were telling you at the time was that they had the biggest scandal in the history of the United States of America. You can't overstate how big that story is. If it was true. Yeah. Right. If it wasn't all completely made up.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
But they're reporting that a foreign hostile foreign power has overturned our election. And the sitting president of the United States of America is in on it. He is involved in a conspiracy with a hostile foreign government. Like that's the biggest scandal in the history of America. And they for for anybody who wasn't aware at the time of how fake and evil the entire system is.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
They were like, well, look, they got a special prosecutor on the president. I mean, there must be something there. And hey, I just heard the chair of the House Intelligence Committee tell me he's seen the evidence and that he's guilty of this.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And you had the former CIA director, John Brennan, saying that Trump and his family are going to be hauled off in handcuffs on television once Mueller's investigation concludes. And so for the regular person, especially for the regular person who really hated Donald Trump, it was pretty easy to get sucked into that. But after that was exposed for being a giant fake, and then the big one is COVID.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
It didn't just turn out it wasn't true, but turned out it was actually- Funded by Clinton. Well, right, it started as opposition research, and then the intelligence agencies jumped on that and decided, knowing that it was all bullshit, decided to use it to frame the sitting president of the United States of America of treason.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And listen, a few episodes back, one time we went real deep into this, but that claim, this is just a fact. They lied on the FISA court application to spy on Carter Page, who was a low-level advisor for Donald Trump, just an excuse to spy on Trump's campaign. And they lied to the FISA court.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
They omitted the fact that the CIA had already told them that Carter Page wasn't a spy and that he was working with them and that he was one of their good guys. As the FBI went to the CIA and they were like, we have information that says that the Russians approached Trump. Carter Page. And the CIA said, yeah, we know. He came and told us immediately because he's working with us.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And then what they put on the FISA application is they said, we believe that the Russians approached him and the CIA confirmed that was true.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Exactly. So that was, by the way, the only guy who actually got charged was the FBI guy who submitted that application. But look, when you said there were no ramifications, right? you're right in the sense of like legally, or people getting fired. Yes, but I'm saying this is the ramification. The ramification is that they're not gonna be able to pull it off again.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
I could point to a lot of things Trump did in his four years that I think were bad, but they were things that were similar to Obama and Bush. Guess what?
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And the ramification is that look, They did everything they could to tell you this was a Nazi. This was the end of democracy. He incited an insurrection. And the American people said, we already get that. You're full of shit. They cried wolf. Yeah. Too many times.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Yeah. You ever see that? Yep, yep. I saw it, and then I saw it when you played it fairly recently.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Yeah, that's right. Well, here's what changed. The narrative. Well, he became the guy who wasn't just funding a lot of politicians and being like a famous guy, and he became the guy who was calling all of them out and threatening to drain the swamp. That really was his crime, is that he threatened the D.C. power establishment.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Well, it's so look, man. I mean, did they think? That one Puerto Rican's vote was gonna be flipped because of a joke that Tony made?
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Lewis is one of the best shit talkers I've ever met. Also, garbage. So Tony had a point. It's like Italians.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
My wife is Italian and all my in-laws, her whole family is Italian. And it is like when you have a dinner, it's just everyone yells. It's animal. Like, everything's a yell. To the Romans.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Like, I'll literally, her, my brother-in-law, who I love, he's a great guy, super smart, but he will, if he's agreeing with you in a conversation, and you were, like, in the next room, you would be like, is he about to fight his brother-in-law? Like, what's going on in there? No, he's just agreeing with what I'm saying, but he's screaming it at me, you know?
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#2225 - Dave Smith
But it is a thing where it's very, they're very thick-skinned. They're not, like, fragile people. It's one of my favorite things about them. Puerto Ricans are the same way.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
I was texting with him after it and I thought it was so great. I mean, I thought even the bit that he did on Israel-Palestine was so funny. He ripped both sides. And then he did, by the way, same with the Puerto Rico thing. There was an underlying really good point to it, which is always like the best comedy when you're just being funny.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
But at the same time, you're like, oh, and he did kind of nail that, too, where he was just like, why are we funding wars that have been going on forever? Like, figure it out, guys. And then he just got a great rip on Muslims, a great rip on Jews.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
All right. Let's get to the bottom of it. Wait, we have access.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Well, that's, yeah. And I mean, a little bit of that's on him because there were some people who he probably should have known. What I didn't like in his answer about that to you is that then he kind of pivoted to talking about how John Bolton was actually really good to have there because he's terrifying.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
She's been there and she was surprised? That makes no sense.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Nobody who's ever been to Kill Tony would be disappointed. It didn't matter. It was a political tool. Of course.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Yeah, it's, look, it's, I just, like I was saying before though, man, I just, I do like, I feel like if you zoom out, like if you look at it closely, you would be like, you said with the... Oh, yeah.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
terrifying and he's crazy oh this guy wants war with everyone but the problem is that like that's not how it went down john bolton ruined the north korea deal it's not like it it was successful and the north koreans were so scared of john bolton that they wanted to talk to donald trump they were at the meeting they were willing to talk to donald trump and then john bolton came in and they were like these guys are psychopaths i don't want to make a deal with them alone
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#2225 - Dave Smith
What are we doing? We all grew up in the America of Howard Stern and The Simpsons and all this stuff. It's not like jokes are foreign to any of us. Yeah, we all forgot about Superbad.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Right, right. And her point is so stupid. I mean, she's like, hey, you're a Trump supporter, own it. It's like, yeah, he's speaking at a Trump event at Madison Square Garden. There's nothing to do with the joke. But I'm saying just the fact that he's there clearly already says, yeah, I'm supporting this guy. And then he's a comedian, so he's like, I'm going to do what I do here with it. Exactly.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
If AOC wanted to come out and say something like, she'd go... Listen, I'm actually a fan of Tony. I really like the show kill Tony. I don't think she goes I don't think it's appropriate at a political event and insult comic that'd be a reasonable thing to say.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
That's not on your Tony. You know what I mean? And like so but that's not what she's saying and Again, it's like, you know Look, to the point you were making before about the Russia collusion hoax and no one getting in trouble for it, if you were to look at a...
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Say the weapons of mass destruction lie that got us into war in Iraq, killed a million people, cost trillions of dollars and tens of thousands of our bravest young men blowing their brains out. Just an unmitigated disaster. And none of the people who sold that lost their jobs or they're not like, I don't know what they should be doing.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Maybe like picking up garbage by the side of the road, apologizing to every car that passes them. I don't know.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Yeah, it's not, listen, none of the Trump legal charges were an example where Look, the former president of the United States of America clearly broke the law. And we don't want to politicize the legal system here, but it's so obvious he broke the law that we have to prosecute him. It was, we're coming up with a novel legal theory that we've never prosecuted anyone under before.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And I will say, look, man, I was rooting for Trump last night as much as anybody in this country was.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And if you interpret it this way, then we could interpret this misdemeanor that's passed the statute of limitations as a felony. So-
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Because that's not their side of the issue. Do you know how nutty that is? Just think about how nutty that is. It is.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Oh, can I just say real quick, dude, because if I don't I want to make sure I say this while we're here. But to president elect Donald Trump, dude, he he came to the Libertarian Party convention this year and he promised us and a whole bunch of people, myself included, like supported him for this. And he did carry, I think, the libertarian vote.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
He promised us he was going to free Ross Ulbricht on day one. And like, if you're listening, Mr. President, if this gets to you, please, please come through on that promise, man. This kid has done over a decade in jail already. He was guilty of creating a Web site. You know, it was like a dark.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Web type thing and I guess some people sold drugs on it and stuff, but he's done ten years over ten years Yeah, have you ever seen the documentary on that? Yeah, yeah interesting because I know his mom seems like he was railroaded.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
He was never convicted of that and He got life without parole for making a website. And I've gotten to know his mother, Lynn, over the years and she's like the sweetest lady and she's just in the middle of this nightmare. Like her whole life has been a nightmare for the last 11 years or whatever it's been. And just I really just please come through on that one.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
There's no political capital even to be spent on it. It's one of the best things he did when he was president last year was last time was, you know, freeing people who were just in jail on BS and way over prosecuted. And he said he was going to do it on day one. And I'm just saying we a lot of people supported him for that. I really hope he comes through. That would be amazing.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
They're idiots. Well, there's an old saying. They're gullible people. There's an old saying. It goes something like, the FBI always gets their man because it's always their man.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
You know? There's a lot of that. Dude, there's been dozens and dozens of these FBI, what they call sting operations, which are really entrapment since 9-11. Yes. Where they get, oh, we thwarted another terrorist attack. But no, they didn't thwart a terrorist attack. They planned a terrorist attack and then thwarted it. Like it was never going to happen. By the way, a little note on that.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Every single time, I always find this fascinating. Every time the FBI wants to do one of these terrorist entrapment things, which again, they've done dozens and dozens of since 9-11. Every time when they approach like young Muslim guys who are like on radical websites or something like that, every time.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And wasn't that just one of the... Look, there's obviously a huge series of these things where the Democrat establishment and the corporate media, but I repeat myself, it's death by a thousand self-inflicted wounds. Yes, yes. It is almost as if it's like their whole thing relies on lies. It's just all lies. And they are just they are have their eyes shut and their fingers in their ears.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
They never go up there and they say, hey, how do you feel about America being free and prosperous? Or how do you feel about the fact that we don't have Sharia law here or anything? They never do that. They always go, how do you feel about American foreign policy? Look at all these innocent Muslims that we're killing over there in that part of the world. Doesn't that make you angry?
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Doesn't that make you want to do something about it? You see, like when the FBI wants to do entrapment, all of a sudden they know what motivates terrorism. They're not like, oh, you hate us for our freedom or the dumb shit that they say to the American public. They know exactly how to entrap these people. They go, how do you feel about all these Palestinian babies getting killed right now?
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#2225 - Dave Smith
You know, that's America's money and weapons that are doing it. And that's how they get them. But it's all, you look at the first World Trade Center attack was all just the FBI screwed it up. They were following it the whole time. And then they screwed it up and they almost took down the towers.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
No, you can never give that back to him. But, like, just let him go free. And it's also just such a situation where you just, you know, and obviously, like, I know his mother. So I'm like, you know, I'm kind of personally invested in it. But it's like this kid is no threat.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
It's that nobody thinks like, oh, if we let him out, you know, he's some type of violent criminal who might do another violent thing or something like that. Like, that's just not going to happen. You could just end the nightmare that this sweet woman is going through and him, of course, too.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Well, okay, so the thing about Snowden, right, is that... And now the Julian Assange case has kind of been taken off the table, even though I guess technically he could still pardon him. But that takes real political capital. Now, I think he should pardon Snowden. How so? But... Well, I'm just saying that like Snowden pissed off a lot of very powerful people. The NSA are furious about him.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
The CIA, they don't like him. And they do not want to set the precedent that you can release the fact that we're doing a bunch of illegal shit that we are lying to the American people about. And then you can go tell them that we are, in fact, doing the thing that we lied and said we weren't doing. They don't like that. There's going to be powerful forces that will oppose you.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Ross Ulbricht doesn't... It's not like that. No, no, no. I completely understand. Now, if he were to pardon Snowden, that would be a real signal that he is willing to take on the deep state. He's willing to take on the real powerful entrenched interests. Now, again, I'm not claiming to... It's obviously the right thing to do, morally speaking. But...
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#2225 - Dave Smith
You got to have a really smart strategy if you're actually going to do this. I remember one time during the Ron Paul presidential campaign, I think it was in 2012, and someone asked him a question about when you're in there and you're president, are you going to tell the CIA like, hey, you, you guys are done and you're this and you're this?
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And he went, well, I might say it a little bit nicer than that. It was like, listen, I am trying to abolish the CIA, but let's be cool here.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And they're going, no, no, no, no, no, no. We're just pretending reality is the thing we want it to be. Exactly. They don't want to get slowed down by this this force that is objective reality. And so all of it, you know, whether it's Joe Biden sharp as a tack. Kamala Harris is joy. Donald Trump is Hitler. Tony Hinchcliffe was a man at an event who made some comments. Did you see?
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Yeah. Well, and also, and one of the things that was so disappointing about Trump not pardoning Julian Assange and Snowden in his first term, and again, a lot of that is because it's like when he told you, why didn't he release the JFK files? Well, because he was listening to Liz Cheney's pick for defense secretary, Mike Pompeo.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
People convinced him not to do it. But it's like at a certain point, you're like, okay, first of all, the spying that Snowden exposed was weaponized against you. Like they spied on you. So you kind of, I would think you have some like stake in being like, yeah, that should be exposed and should be abolished.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Yes, but he also had a lame duck period. I mean, he had a period where he knew he wasn't gonna have a second term and still had the power, but he was worried about the impeachment.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Yes, so there's a fair point to that. Maybe now Donald Trump gets in, and I do think this is what the corporate media and all of them are really terrified about, is that now he gets in and he doesn't need to win another election. I mean, he'd like to win a midterm election and keep the... I mean, he's got the Senate now. We'll see. The House hasn't been determined yet.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
But he'd like to keep congressional control within the Republican Party. But he doesn't need to worry about a re-election now. If he really wanted to be the drain-the-swamp guy, he's got an opportunity now where I just... a lot of things have aligned where it's like, I think he could really get it done and I think he could get away with that.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
I think that he's kind of, he's taken all their bullets, both literally and metaphorically. He's been impeached. He's been convicted of felonies. He's been shot at. All the things have already happened. He's been demonized in a way that no public figure has been demonized in any of our lifetimes.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
That is a fair point. There are still votes out there. I'd like to take a look at that again after 100% of everybody has been reported. But it does certainly seem weird.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Really, that wasn't a comedian who was ribbing everybody?
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Yeah. And to be clear, 2012 and 2016 were not low turnout years.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
So it goes up a fucking sizable chunk and only once. And it does seem like even with getting all the other votes and you're not going to get to that.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And we're supposed to act like it's not 2024. We didn't all grow up on Don Rickles.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Yeah. And well, and you know, I just say, you know how in like the corporate media world, it's like this is the biggest crime ever to even ask this question. But you kind of can't blame us for asking it when everything you say is a lie.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Do you remember the old Seinfeld bit on the show? No. He has Newman's a postman, and he's like, why do you guys always go crazy and just kill people? And he's like, because the mail never stops. It's so funny.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
It's like if what Rachel Maddow says is real, right? Like if you're telling me your worldview is essentially that Adolf Hitler is running for president, it looks like it's a coin flip if he's going to win. That's what they were telling us, that it was 50-50. Turns out it wasn't. But Adolf Hitler's running. This is the end of democracy. It's on the ballot.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
We'll never have elections again if this guy wins. So if that's true, then why wouldn't somebody who's got a bunch of ballots for him cheat? I would do that if Adolf Hitler was about to win, I'd cheat to make sure he won. If Adolf Hitler's about to win, you should do anything you can.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
So you're going to tell me on one hand, Adolf Hitler's about to take over America, and on the other hand, but no one would ever cheat?
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#2225 - Dave Smith
The conversation that people – the dumb American pop conversation is would you murder a baby if that baby was Adolf Hitler? You know what I mean? Like that's the pop question that people ask about Adolf Hitler. And I think the implied correct answer is yes. You're supposed to say I would murder baby Hitler. I'd wait until he's 17. Yeah, probably. Feel a little bit better about yourself.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And you could run a real good experiment on like nurture versus nature, like raise them loving, be nice. Give them some mushrooms. Yeah, there you go. Fix that little fucker. But anyway, but you're saying someone wouldn't, it's also, it's like, it's not even just that they're liars who are in the business of propaganda. It's that it's incoherent propaganda. Your propaganda doesn't even make sense.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Like if propaganda point A is true, then propaganda point B is impossible to be true. Right. And one of the things that I'm so happy that Trump won about is she just needed to lose. There's a certain line that they crossed that you're like, we need to be in a country where that doesn't work. Like that can't work. It's just too far.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
100% and then that you can't that you can't have someone bypass that because you have a complete puppet 100% and then in addition to that just think about how crazy this is You're gonna bypass the democratic process and then you're running on democracy is on the ballot, right? I mean, this is just too much amazing It's too much.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
You want to like punch yourself in the face like you can't do that to me You can't say that
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#2225 - Dave Smith
He made it totally clear. And what he was saying was that there were very fine people on both sides of the arguments about tearing statues down. Yeah. Like he was saying, look, it's reasonable that there are some people who are like, no, this is our history. We want to keep it up. And then there's other people who are like, this represents slavery or something like that. We want to take it down.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And then first off, it was clear when he said it that that's what he meant. And then they ask him a follow-up question. Are you saying the white supremacists are very fine people? He goes, no. How many times do I need to say that? Yes. No, I am not saying that any of the white supremacists... And like, that's not enough?
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#2225 - Dave Smith
maybe a hundred times no exaggeration they'd go now you still haven't disavowed white supremacy and he'd be like no i have over and over again now but to your point which i think is a really good one and i think i love the analogy for people who are mma fans it really is like uh it's like someone coming into mma in 2024 and being like uh i'm a jiu-jitsu specialist i've never trained wrestling or striking exactly and you're like
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Okay, that's not going to work anymore. I know that worked in 1993, but that's not going to work. They have not adapted to the new world that we're living in now. And you saw there was a lot of evidence of this. These things that used to work now come with a heavy price. So one of the things that...
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#2225 - Dave Smith
politicians used to do in general was that they would give the same stump speech everywhere they go. Message discipline is what it's called. You always stay on message. And this is the idea is that you're never going to get your message out there unless you say the same thing over and over again to everyone. But now...
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#2225 - Dave Smith
We have the internet and you have these compilations of Kamala Harris saying she's from a middle class family like 75 times in a row and you just look like a psychopath. You're like, oh, what are you? So now there's like a cost to playing the game in the old way, but they don't adjust. And Trump, whether even intentionally or not, was always just kind of like, oh, well, I just speak off the cuff.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
So I don't do that. You know, like, I mean, he's got themes that he hits a lot, like all of us kind of do. But he doesn't do that. And he did. And Donald Trump, one of the brilliant things. And man, I mean, I can't believe I haven't just asked you this already about this, but
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#2225 - Dave Smith
One of the really brilliant things that Donald Trump did, which obviously, look, RFK did it and Vivek Ramaswamy, I think both, like, they recognize, like, look, we're in a new landscape here. And there are these shows on the internet that have much bigger audiences than these traditional shows.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Oh, and by the way, I get to go long and I can really give an in-depth, you know, like, point on every single topic. And, dude, I mean, Trump coming on here and her refusing to, this is... I mean, dude, you kind of put Donald Trump in the White House. This is amazing.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Well, it's just like, it is just unbelievable, man. Like the, the, the false reality that they were trying to present while you're, while you're watching what's actually going on and seeing that it's like, there was just an enormous shift, like culturally from even 2016 to now. And I did, I thought one of the big, indicators to me.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Right. I think that Vivek probably wouldn't make the claim exactly in the same way that Donald Trump is. No, I'm saying if he was accused. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, sure. If he was accused. Well, yeah. No, Vivek isn't going to say anything without having a detailed answer to it. That's not Trump. Nor is J.D. Yes. Listen, Trump is different than Vivek and J.D. He's a different type of animal.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Well, the thing is, one of the things that was really interesting, and that was one of the most interesting moments of your show with him, was that you weren't, asking it the way CNN would ask it. You weren't badgering him. After having a very honest, good faith conversation for a while, you were asking in good faith, what's the evidence?
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Look, I think the truth is that his lawyers made a lot of outlandish claims, none of which they could prove in court. Essentially, what he has in terms of the argument, I think, is kind of what we have, what we just looked at. We're like, sure does look strange. Sure does seem weird to me that 80 million plus people voted for Joe Biden. And the regime was so working against him in every other way.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Like, you know, Glenn Greenwald, who's, you know, I think just one of the absolute, like, most brilliant people out there. I agree. His work is incredible. I love that guy. I love the way he put it. I thought it was perfect. Where he goes, he's like, like, I don't really have any evidence that they stole the election from him, but they clearly rigged the thing against him.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And then just kind of goes through, like, all the censorship, the Hunter Biden story, the media. And so in that environment, it's very easy to, You know, the analogy that I use, I think I may have said this before to you, but it's almost like if there's a guy who's like cheating on his wife all the time and then one day she's like, last Friday you didn't answer your phone when you were out.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
I know you were cheating on me. And she's wrong. He wasn't cheating that Friday. Like, she's kind of right, even though she's wrong. You know what I mean? Like, she might get the detail wrong, but her overall suspicion is, in fact, correct. I think there was a lot of that with Trump supporters, where it's just like, listen, man, you framed him for treason for three years of his presidency.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Then you shut down the economy, and that was totally... partially at least, to ruin his economy for his reelection year. Then you were totally supporting the riots that were destroying, you were just causing chaos. Then you overhauled the way we do votes and you killed his big October surprise story by censoring it off all the social media sites.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And now you're telling me the most unimpressive senator in the history of America, Joe Biden, got 80 plus million votes. He got more votes than Obama in 2008. Really? Like this just smell. But that is not something you can take to court.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
I don't remember. It was a lot. But yeah, but also Rudy Giuliani is a lawyer and he should know that like- You kind of can't say that unless you got something to really present.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
I was talking about this a bunch on my show over the last couple weeks. Since the Garden event, whatever that was, a week and a half ago. Dude, there were no protesters.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Well, they were saying, I mean, Sidney Powell, I think that's her name, and Giuliani.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Remember when Ron Paul destroyed Rudy Giuliani on the debate stage?
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Isn't it annoying that they make it so hard to find the actual thing?
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And again, Rudy Giuliani is a lawyer. Like, he should know that, you know?
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And then if you move to Tennessee, zero. Move to Texas, zero. And they wonder why people are flooding out of their state by the hundreds of thousands.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Well, and isn't it so, like, the whole, like, war on tobacco, which I guess vapes aren't tobacco, but the whole, like, you know, like, crackdown on smoking and everything that kind of happened in my lifetime is... It's really, really wild when you take into account all the stuff that Bobby Kennedy talks about. Oh, yeah. Where you're like, yeah, but we're like the most unhealthy country.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Hey, Joe, it's the replacer. Yeah. No, you. Hey, I'm going to take it from here so you can enjoy some Call of Duty Black Ops 6. Great. Now, listen up, folks. Life can be chaotic, but you shouldn't have to miss out on the latest Call of Duty just because you've got, I don't know, responsibilities. That's where I come in. I will handle the boring stuff like works, chores, even podcast ads.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And you took away like, yeah, a lot more people used to smoke cigarettes and cigarettes aren't good for you. Sure. But we were a healthier country when people were smoking cigarettes.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
These are eights. Wait, are these the Tucker Carlson ones? No, no, no.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
No gambling either, you fucker. Dude, I mean, you know, I'm on the road all the time. Yeah, right. And you go throughout this whole country, and it's like, yeah, people don't smoke anymore. That was effective. I mean, not like the way they used to. You know, there's not people smoking cigarettes like that.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
But every single town I go to in this entire country has an Arby's and a Burger King and a KFC. And like they have every single town, even when they have nothing else. They have every single type of fast food. And you look around and like everybody's obese. Everyone's unhealthy.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
I mean, when you rattle off, you know, when Bobby Kennedy gave that speech when he threw his support behind Donald Trump. I was watching that with my wife and my mother-in-law. They both have tears in their eyes as he's just reading down the stats of how unhealthy we are as a country. It's just – man, one thing – and I'm really, really glad that Bobby ran for president this year.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And I'm really glad he ended up throwing his support behind Trump and hopefully he gets a really important position in there. But the one thing that I almost felt like you couldn't argue with him, that even if you don't blame the same culprits that he blames, which is what they love to say, it's like... How is everyone not talking about this?
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#2225 - Dave Smith
How is this not an issue that every single presidential candidate has to address? It's killing people.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Really? That's an odd pairing together. I think she's great. I had her on my podcast a couple times.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
So you can dive right into the fight. Call of Duty Black Ops 6 is out October 25th. So dive in because I've got your back. Remember, I replace you, Blade. It's that simple.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Look at this. 44%, though. More than one reason or condition.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
I was uh I can't remember what town I was in But uh so Nicole Shanahan who I I think she's great And it was really really interesting. I had her on my podcast twice just really really smart lady who's really Knows a lot about this stuff. She sent me this like video that she posted And so I'm in a hotel room
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And I was there with my buddy, Rob Bernstein, who's a co-host of my podcast, Part of the Problem. Very, very funny comedian, very smart guy. And so I've literally, I was texting with him And we were on our way to go to the show. So I was like, hey, meet in the lobby in 10 minutes. And then I got an Uber taking us to the comedy club. I can't remember where we were.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And Nicole Shannon sends me this video. It was a video that she put out on Twitter. I didn't know what it was going to be. She just sent me it, and I just click on it and play it. And it was just about what her family went through with their kids, like illnesses and stuff. And it's the most touching video ever. And I'm literally sit down.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
It's so powerful that I sit down and I'm just watching this whole thing. And I started crying watching it. Kids with health issues really cuts close to the bone for me. But as I'm sitting there just like literally sobbing, watching this video, it's so emotional. And then literally it just dawns on me in the middle of it that I'm supposed to meet my comedian friend in one minute in the lobby.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
to go to this show. I was just sitting here like, what am I doing? I'm sitting in my hotel room crying about these kids. But anyway, the point of it is, is that like, hey, look, I don't know enough about this stuff. You know, I know about stuff that I know about. I don't know enough about this. I really should educate myself more on it.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
But if your argument is that like, that Bobby and Nicole are blaming the wrong culprits, you know, it's not the vaccines and it's not the Wi-Fi and it's not like, okay, I don't know. But like, what is it then? And why are you not interested in this? Why are they the only ones who are talking about this?
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#2225 - Dave Smith
You're telling me we lead the world in chronic illness and that's not something that comes up in any presidential election ever other than when Bobby Kennedy runs for president? That's insane.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Why are you so convinced? I'm sorry. I'm letting you know that I'm somewhat ignorant on this subject. So just explain it to me like I'm really, really stupid. Talk slowly. They can't do it. I can understand where if you're talking about very mild autism, like what we used to call Asperger's, which I guess they don't call that anymore.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
But if you're talking about mild autism and you want to convince me that that went undiagnosed in the past, I can totally believe that. There is no way that moderate or severe autism went undiagnosed. It may have not been correctly diagnosed, but you did not not notice that.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
I'm saying there's no possible way that there isn't an increase going on here. Because obviously, even in the 1940s or in the 1950s, if someone was nonverbal, they would have noticed that. They would have noticed that this – you know what I mean?
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#2225 - Dave Smith
There's no way. You would have called it something. Maybe you wouldn't have understood it the way we understand it today. And thank God people do understand it better and there's a lot more tools that are provided and there's a lot more awareness about it and special schools and things like that. But come on. There's –
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#2225 - Dave Smith
You know, so much of this is, it's one of the things that exposes how full of shit our whole system is, is when you just see that there's no even desire to get to the bottom of this. It's like the Trump assassination attempts. But not only that. No desire.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Right. It's wild. And it's it reminds me kind of of you remember like when they were trying to push the covid passports, the vaccine passports and the logic would just fall apart on its face. Like you're like, wait a minute. You're like you you're telling me the vaccine is 100 percent effective. You're saying if you take the vaccine, you can't get covid or spread covid.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And then you're also telling me that the people who are vaccinated in this restaurant need to be protected from the unvaccinated entering this restaurant. That doesn't make sense. I'm sorry, I'm not a genius, but I can figure out the logic in that is flawed, okay?
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And in the same sense though, it's like, so what is the, if you're arguing that all these vaccines are safe and Bobby Kennedy's a kook, then why do they need the liability protection?
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Yeah. Wasn't it – it was crazy because it was like for weeks, especially in the close of the campaign, it was one of those things where it felt like – It almost felt like 2008 when Obama was running against McCain, and it was just so obvious Obama was running away with this. Everything you could see and observe, his crowd sizes, the enthusiasm, the culture, it was all behind him.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Yeah. And I think I got here in a kind of similar way to you, which is, I think, a story for millions of Americans, is that I never even thought about this issue. I never... dove into reading a lot about any vaccine until there was this COVID vaccine.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And then I really dove into it and read a lot about it and found out that you guys were lying through your fucking teeth about the whole goddamn thing. And that the whole clinical trials were totally rigged and totally fake. And that you were able to get everybody in the scientific institutions of our government to all repeat these lies.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And then everybody in the corporate media and the political class to repeat these lies. And then when Bobby Kennedy came along and said, well, you know how that was all bullshit? There's a lot of bullshit with these other vaccines. I was like, I'm listening. That doesn't seem unreasonable to me.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
That was the same one you had on, right? Yes. With Tim Pool? Yes. And one of the interesting things about that was, which is, that was a great, still probably one of my all-time favorite JRE episodes. But it was when she was, they were arguing that they don't have a bias. And then I think Tim was like, yeah, but you ban people for dead naming or misgendering.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And she was like, well, yeah, I mean, that's hateful. And you're like, yeah, but that's a bias. That right there is a bias. And it's one thing when you're just talking about whether we're calling somebody a boy or a girl, but then you realize, oh, you have the exact same thing when it actually comes to very important medical information about a product that Americans are being forced to take.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And they were they were implementing in a totally unconstitutional way. They were going to through OSHA. through workplace safety, like just the most blatantly unconstitutional proposal that Joe Biden was going to make it the law of the land that every single business with 100 people or more had to have everybody vaccinated.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And it was only because of Donald Trump's Supreme Court that that got struck down. And that's something that people who are paying attention remember. And so like, OK, you can demonize Donald Trump all you want to. But how many millions of Americans were not
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Fired from their job, did not lose their livelihood because they refused or were not vaccine injured for a vaccine that they never needed to take. I mean, how many people fell into the category that like me and you and so many other people fell into where we got the thing and beat it real quickly before we ever got vaccinated and just didn't need it? And then it just didn't make any sense.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Even with the information we had about the vaccine back then, which we have a lot more now. But even back then, I mean, you looked CNN's doctor right in the eyes. And he goes, well, are you going to get the vaccine? And you go, no, I just beat COVID. Why would I need to? And he had no answer for you. He had no reason why. There's no compelling reason why you should.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
What's he doing different? And you go, oh, he's very serious about his health. Oh, he takes really good care of himself. By the way, you enjoyed me giving the business to Chris Cuomo over there. That was one of my favorite moments of this year.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Shout out to Patrick Bitt David's crew, because they really had my back on that one. I didn't send them that clip before or anything, but they in real time had that ready to go. They had a Jamie too. Yeah, everybody's got a Jamie now.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
There's only one Jamie. There's only one Jamie, but there's a lot of knockoffs.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
I mean, look, man, and it's not really like a comment on me. It's not that I'm so amazing at debates. It's just like the argument here is so weak. You're pretty good at debates. Well, thank you. You're pretty good at it. I appreciate that. You're pretty fucking good at it. I'm not bad at it.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Yeah. I mean, that's my superpower isn't that I'm like the smartest guy or the best at debates. It's just that like I'm right in what I'm arguing and that makes it much easier. You know, I got – there was an organization that was pitching me on a debate. A two on two debate, which I don't really like doing two on two debates. I've done like too many people talking. It's too much. Yeah.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
One on one is the way to do it. But they they pitched me this like months after that. I think it was if I'm not wrong. I think the topic was about whether Joe Biden should drop out of the race or not. And they pitched me that it would be a two on two debate against two people. I don't remember who who were saying he should stay in. And it was going to be me and Chris Cuomo against them.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And I told them I was like, no, no, I will not be on his side. And like, I don't you know, I'm kind of over, you know, I. Yeah. We had our thing. I gave him a beating. I think he deserved it. But I'm just like, listen, man, I'll team up with like a left winger on something I agree with. I'll team up with the right winger on something I agree with.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
I'll team up with like a moderate on something I agree with. But no, not the corporate media guy who was the number one show at CNN. Like I'm not on their side. Even if I'm on their side on this issue, I'm against them. And I know that this has probably been a theme of like every single time I'm on this show over the last 10 years or whatever it's been. But I just. And maybe it's a problem.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
I hate them so much. And I really think they deserve it. And it's not just that they lie about everything. It's like they lie about everything. And then they have the nerve to morally judge us. Like if you just watch even just the last few weeks of the Trump election, they're not in the business of reporting the news.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
They're totally just in the business of making you feel like you're a bad person if you don't fall in line with the regime. And, you know, like it's like all of us know. Right. Everybody knows this. America has this giant war machine, right? Like we're just always at war. We're the most war hungry country in the world.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Even if we're taking a little bit of a break from a war, we'll fight two more proxy wars while we do that. America looks back at the 90s, Bill Clinton as the time of peace and prosperity. We call it peace because we only fought a war in like Serbia and had a blockade around Iraq and we're like bombing the crap out of Iraq with a few other military interventions in there too.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
You know, the UN estimated when that Bill Clinton's sanction and bombing regime of Iraq. Everyone just thinks of George H.W. Bush's war and W's war, but Bill Clinton was bombing Iraq, and he had a full blockade around the country. The UN estimated that 500,000 children died of starvation or malnutrition due to the blockade. Now, I've heard people argue, by the way, that that number is exaggerated.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Maybe it wasn't 500,000. Maybe it was only 100,000. Let's say it's 100,000. So that's the time that we consider peace. when we were just starving 100,000 children to death in Iraq, and you, everybody in the corporate media, are in the business, every single one of those wars, you've sold them. Everyone, my entire life, the media has sold those wars. And you're going to morally look down on me?
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#2225 - Dave Smith
You're going to judge me? Motherfucker, you're in the business of baby murder. Get the Fuck out of here. You're looking down judging an American because maybe I'm going to vote for Donald Trump or maybe I dare to question the results of the last election. Fuck you, dude.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And man, and it was a challenge debating him because they were playing the clips, you know, even before they played that clip that. Sunned him because he had said he didn't say that. And then he clearly did. But they were just playing the clips of the way they were talking to people during covid and the pandemic of the unvaccinated. And it's you, Mr. Vaccine skeptic. You're the reason why this.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And man, it was getting me angry. Like I was just like, all right, I got it. I got to control this here because this is too sweet.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And the way he tried to spin it... It's for long COVID. But he tried to say... Because, I mean, he was so... He really should have just thrown in the white towel. He would have done much better for himself in that debate.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Listen, I was at CNN, and I kind of just took for granted that they have the best experts, and so I trusted their experts, and now I realize they were... If he had said that, that would have been very hard...
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#2225 - Dave Smith
I still would have been harsh on him, but it would have been a different conversation and a different dynamic What he did was he refused to admit that and then and this is really what got me is that then?
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#2225 - Dave Smith
He started kind of like attacking my motives like he was like oh yeah He goes I know that you know this is probably good for your podcast numbers and stuff But well like as if I'm I don't really believe what I'm saying because I'm just doing this to make money they function That's why they're accusing you of functioning that way they're accusing of doing things just because you know they're gonna be outrageous and get a lot of views and
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Which is, but you know, like you know me, I don't do that. I don't do that. Yeah. I don't do that. No, I know you don't.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Yeah, yeah. And you never, you don't like, there is nothing I say that I don't believe. I might be wrong about some stuff, but everything I say, I believe. I'm not like ever saying anything because just like, oh, this will, you know, like...
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And they also have – there's a real incentive – to never consider what I said about them being in the baby murder business, because that's pretty rough to think of yourself as that. And I remember this one time I watched a documentary on abortion, and it was like a very pro-choice. How much free time do you have? This was before I had kids. This was before I had kids.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
I'm a weird guy, Joe. But that's what I do. I might, though. I forget where it was. It might have been on Netflix or something. I really want to know what was going on. Well, I was kind of interested in the subject before I had kids. But I remember I was watching. It had a very pro-choice bent. And there was this abortionist, this abortion doctor, this lady. And she was like, listen.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
I've been an abortion doctor for 30 years. And let me just tell you something. There is no moral issue with having an abortion. It's a thing in a Petri dish. It's not a human being. And I remember just watching and being like, well, yeah, but you better feel that way. Because if you even start to entertain the possibility, what does that make you?
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#2225 - Dave Smith
So there's this very powerful social incentive for them to like dig their heels in and not admit that like, oh, the United States of America, the greatest country in the history of the world with more freedom and prosperity and cultivated the greatest economy and the greatest music and literature and just everything that is this superpower.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Oh, we presided over the bankruptcy, destruction and like the devolving into nothing more than a like military industrial complex, big bank, big pharmaceutical, most corrupt nation on Earth. And we didn't cover that. We watched all of that happen. And not only did we not cover it, we demonized anybody who covered it. And we were at every, you know, like that's very difficult to ever confront.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And it's always just so much easier for human beings to just go, nope, the problem is misinformation and Russia and racism.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
He is one of the funniest human beings on the planet, for sure.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
I'm like, ah! Listen, you get caught on the side of the bar at Mitzi's with Kurt Metzger, you might be in for a night.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
which there is an argument to, then I can understand the argument being, hey, that shouldn't be allowed. Now, obviously, I do think there are situations where it's pretty indefensible to force a woman to carry a baby to term.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
major health issues. I mean, there are these situations where you find out that there is some congenital disease where this kid is not gonna make it to three years old. And I would never dream of like forcing, you know what I mean, that decision on parents rather than allowing them to make it. There is also,
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#2225 - Dave Smith
different the vast majority of abortions are not that you know and the vast majority of abortions are essentially people just don't want to have kids right now and that's a little bit that's much tougher to defend than those cases but I will say that one of the things that always like I find striking to me is that because I'm like a radical libertarian and it's very interesting to me that like progressive Democrats all
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#2225 - Dave Smith
of a sudden become radical libertarians, but only on one issue. And they make literally exactly, I'm not even saying the libertarian position is to be pro-choice. There's libertarians who are pro-life and libertarians who are pro-choice. But the argument they make is a libertarian one. They're like, listen, I own my body. It's my body. It's my choice.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
The government shouldn't be involved in healthcare decisions. We believe in freedom. This is a basic fundamental right. It's a very libertarian argument. And it's just interesting that you only apply that to this one area. Mm-hmm.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
There's not any other area where any progressive Democrat would ever go, you know, if we're talking about Obamacare, we're talking about regulation, we're talking about taxes. They would never go, hey, listen, this is my money. This is my body. This is my choice. The government shouldn't be involved in that. You know what I'm saying? And there is something that's very bizarre about that.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Where it's kind of like maybe with immigration They kind of try to use that an argument to like oh you shouldn't stop a person freedom of movement type thing They don't really do that anymore because it's been such a disaster But it's just very strange to me that it's like oh what you all become radical libertarians like only when it comes to this thing Which is kind of murdering a baby, but then there's the other side that says we're gonna leave it up to the states Okay, well if you get rid of Roe v. Wade and you leave it up to the states
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#2225 - Dave Smith
You can't prosecute me for gambling in Vegas. Right. Do you own that person's body?
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#2225 - Dave Smith
What are you going to do? Is it where their driver's license is? What is that? It also just seems, I don't even know what the word, it seems like incoherent or unsustainable to say that if you're not breaking a law in the area where you are, that you could then be held responsible for that when you come back to it.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Because again, you go to a state where recreational marijuana is legal or where gambling is legal or whatever, the idea that It's like if there's like the speed limit was 80 miles per hour in the town over and then I come back and I get a speeding ticket for driving too fast over there where you're allowed to do that. So that seems unworkable to me. That's a great analogy.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Yeah, I mean, I think that the reasonable compromise for right now is Roe v. Wade was struck down. It's a state's rights issue. But yes, I agree with you. The tracking of what you do in another state where it is legal in that state, that first of all, just seems unworkable to me. I don't see how that's possibly going to happen.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And then I do feel like that's going to have to go back to the Supreme Court anyway because it's such a precedent that you could be prosecuted for doing something that was legal in the area that you did it. It's creepy.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
You're well, I mean, you're probably not even going to test positive on like a home pregnancy test, I think, for like 28 days or something like that. So you got two weeks. Yeah.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Yeah. Look, it's very, I don't know. It's tough. When you're drawing a line, it's very tough. It's very tough to find a line other than conception that's not arbitrary.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
He's dead on. Yeah, Louis C.K. had a great one, too. I can't remember. That was an old Louis, but he had a great abortion bit, too.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Yeah. Well, look, it's not – none of these things are perfect compromises. And so even – one of the things that's interesting is like for so long conservatives wanted to overturn Roe v. Wade and it always seemed like a pipe dream, like it was never going to actually happen. But then when you do overturn Roe v. Wade, you do realize that it's like – Nobody's really happy. You know what I mean?
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#2225 - Dave Smith
It's like the blue states are still going to have unrestrictive rules about it, so the right-wing people aren't happy. And then the red states are going to be more restrictive, so the left-wingers aren't happy about it. It's one of those issues that is enormously complex, and it's very difficult— You know, I'm not sure there is like a legal solution to it.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
I think it's a much more of a cultural issue. It's like, if you're going to... If you were living in a society where, say, it was more similar to my grandfather's society, where it was very normal that you married your high school sweetheart, it was very normal that people waited till marriage to have sex, and it was very typical that you got married at 19 or 20.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Well, I'm not saying they did, but I just mean it was much more typical to get married at 19 and be married for 60 years or whatever. Sure. It's much easier to have rules about abortion in that society, whereas if you're in a hookup culture world, where people are getting married at 35 if they get married at all, and they're spending from 17 to 35 being with many different partners- Using apps.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
You're just going to come in and just write a law on top of that. It's just a very – it's a very difficult situation. But to your initial point, it's like the Dems were running on that because that was really the only political winner that they had. That was the only issue that people actually really cared about and they were on the Democrat side about it. And that's why they had to run on that.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
That's why Kamala Harris, which was one of the craziest things of this whole campaign, one of the most amazing things is that they actually tried – to just run on nothing.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
He fucking lies about everything. Well, see, what happened is, right, so Obama, who was obviously a very, very smart person.
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guy and you know incredibly talented politician at least in while he was running for president he was I think he's lost a step but so Obama still was a bit of a narcissist and he wanted to pick Joe Biden as his VP he didn't want someone who was going to outshine him and so he picked Joe Biden who you know if you even before he went senile was never particularly bright so he picked Joe Biden as his VP and then
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Joe Biden, well, he wanted some diversity points and he also wanted someone to not outshine him because now he was becoming senile and he was never that bright to begin with. So he picks Kamala Harris to be his VP. And then Kamala Harris needs to pick someone who won't outshine her. You know what I mean?
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#2225 - Dave Smith
So it's like the idiocracy just like spun out of control real quick where all of a sudden you get to like the third VP in a row and you're like, yo, really? This is who you picked? Yeah. He's a knucklehead. You know what's crazy is that this was, in many ways, this presidential election was just so wild and so different from anything I've ever seen in my lifetime.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
I'm 41, and this was different than any other presidential election of my lifetime for sure, and I think substantially before that. I think anybody's lifetime. Yeah, I think before that, too. But then there were these things that were also just like very conventional explanations for why you look at this Trump blowout.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And it's almost like as you look back at it, it's like, yeah, what you guys thought you could get away with. It's just just very basic things that like Donald Trump picked a VP who, whether you like him or not, is a pretty impressive guy. Very impressive. Pretty impressive guy.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
This is a guy who was raised by a single parent who was a drug addict and ended up serving the country, going to an Ivy League school, becoming a venture capitalist, becoming a senator, and can sit and have a conversation with you for three hours and be – very intelligent and expressive. And have fun. He has fun. However you feel about him, objectively, an impressive person.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
He picked a VP that could help him. He could do things that Trump can't do. He could go on a show and really make the case pretty well in a hostile environment. He's got a very high verbal IQ, clearly. He's a very intelligent guy. She picked a VP who can't do anything to help her. Who's like the weirdest human being you've ever seen. Like what was the strategy here, guys?
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And they actually – they really just banked on being not Trump. They go – all of the things that she ran on four years ago, she walked away from every position and didn't have an answer for any of them. Didn't have an answer for – like it's totally fine to change – your mind on something.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
But I'm saying like if this was happening in 2016, if in 2016 Trump came to Manhattan to give a speech, there would have been like thousands of protesters. I was there actually in 2016 when that did happen.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Yeah, I mean, and it's very easy. We've all changed our minds on a lot of things. And if you were like, hey, dude, you used to believe this, but you believe this now, you'd be like, well, let me tell you something. I read this guy and he just made such a good argument about it. And then he had all this data that I hadn't really seen before. That's fine. But she never had an answer for any of them.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
what well okay so that but again what's the answer then like you were for medicare for all now you're not you were for open borders now you're not you were for whatever the a bunch of other stuff trans surgeries for prisoners or whatever now you're not what happened she had no answer for that she's also the sitting vp and they go oh so are you running on the track record of the last four years like no no i'm also not going to run on that what well why not
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Because I'm not Joe Biden. It's like, what? That's what you're running on? That's it? It's just like, it was so unbelievable.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Yeah, it's a really, really good point. I've always thought there was something about, because just from doing stand-up, if you think about, if you really try to remember back to your first few months in stand-up comedy, and you remember how daunting getting up in front of people was.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
You know and that's that's the first step to being a stand-up comedian isn't like Getting great material or even being it's like hey get comfortable with going up in front of a group of people and speaking into a microphone to them get comfortable with not getting a laugh when you wanted to get one get comfortable that and there is something where like like in in 2016
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And people forget about this human element of it, right? Like Jeb Bush, okay, he's the son of a president, he's the brother of a president, and he was the governor of Florida. It's not like he was a rookie, but when he's on that debate stage, he is stepping onto the biggest stage of his life. He's never been in front of a crowd like that before. Donald Trump, it's Tuesday. This is what I do.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Donald Trump's like cracking his neck and going out there like, oh, are all the spotlights and cameras on me? That's about right. Okay. And he was so comfortable. That was a huge factor in why he was able to just nuke everybody. Because it's like, yeah, this is what I do. I'm the center of attention. These guys have never been there before.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Yeah, she did. She did. It was great. Yeah, I watched it. Can we watch it? I haven't seen it. She's very sharp. They can tell he's very impressive.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Yeah. It's funny, too, because she's not been in politics, but that was very politically savvy. That was a really smart way to go at it.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And it was over the lamest thing. I forget even the comment. Blackface. Something about blackface Halloween costumes or something.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And they would be overtly dumb. It was very insulting. It was clearly like, we think lesser of these people. But that's not necessarily the case if you just have the color black. If you want to be Mike Tyson for Halloween.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
You can do everything but the skin color, which is just bizarre. Well, that's... One of the other things that I do think has been very interesting over the last, really over the last couple years, I guess, and it's really on display with the Trump reelection thing, is that the culture has moved. Did you ever see when I talked to Robert Downey Jr.
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But at that time, the polls were reflecting what you saw everywhere. Obama's up big. John McCain's not going to win after eight years of George W. Bush. The country doesn't want another war hawk. They want this articulate, young, peace guy.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Yeah, that was great. That was such a great response. He's great, man. That is technically true. You could do it.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Well, I do think there's some stuff that we look back at now, at like 2017, 2018, like the woke-ism of that era, does seem to be like, yeah, things aren't quite as crazy as they were then. Or at least there was a little bit of fatigue of it. You kind of can't get away with it anymore.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Yeah. It's the communists who are always like, yeah, but I also want to be a millionaire. It's wonderful.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
So I thought in the election this year, there were like kind of, and woke culture in general, so maybe broader than the election, but there were kind of like three major factors that I think were really interesting. One was that I think the anti- I think the – for lack of a better term, like the kind of anti-woke or non-woke – people kind of won out in the marketplace.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
There's examples of like, I think- Well, the Tom Brady roast is a huge example. Yes, yes. I think you're an example of that. The Tom Brady roast was an example of that. Shane Gillis' career was an example of that. Tim Dillon's career was an example of that.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
It's just, at a certain point, it's not even that Netflix changed their mind and they're willing to have these guys on because they had some ideological transformation. It's just like, I don't know, dude, they're so big.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
They have so many fans and this is gonna get a ton of views on it and a mix of that and also kind of for the first time there was like a cost imposed with the Bud Light stuff and the Target stuff. There were these like kind of very effective boycotts where it's like, oh, there's gonna be a cost imposed on you if you do that.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
The second factor with the Trump stuff and why they weren't able to get the shock troops out, and when I say the shock troops, I just mean the left-wing 20-year-old useful idiots who will come out and protest, yes, there's a fascist movement here, right?
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So one of the things that happened, and this is part of why, this is a non-controversial explanation for 2020 versus 2024, is that in the year 2020, Joe Biden's central pitch to America was a return to normalcy. And that was a very attractive pitch, I think, to a lot of people, especially if you can put yourself in November of 2020. You've gone through the craziest year ever.
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And there's lockdowns, there's riots, the whole economy is a mess. Everybody is freaking out. And you're constantly going like, oh my God, Trump is crazy. And then the reaction to him is crazy. And then Joe Biden could just be like, listen, you know me. I've been in the Senate for 700 years. Let's go back to regular America. The adults are in the room. Yes, exactly.
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And by the way, okay, I'm not campaigning. That's true. I'm in my house the whole time. But there's a pandemic. That's kind of the responsible thing to do. You know, Donald Trump's doing a super spreader event right now. That was still the narrative at the time, even though none of it was real.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
But they don't seem to have that in the same way. It's all bullshit. The shock troops aren't there for them anymore.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Yeah, I think maybe, I vaguely remember this. Was it Ben Carson?
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Is Ben Carson dead? I don't think, I don't remember. No, I don't think it's Ben Carson. I think somebody might have, I vaguely remember this story.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Which, like, whatever. Who even knows whether he got it there or whatever.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Yes. Well, you know, it might have been. I don't know these outdoor events. I don't know if they really were or not.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Herman Cain. That's right. That's right. Yes, yes, yes. That's who it was. Okay. Yes, I do remember that.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Yes. I mean he's a bit of an odd duck, but he's a genius for sure Yeah, the painting with Jesus behind him with his hands and shoulders like hey, bro But he actually is an interesting guy brilliant very very brilliant um but so anyway this pitch of like the return to normalcy in 2020 is Attractive.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
It's attractive and it also, look, it fed into the thesis essentially of the entire corporate media was like the problem is Trump. Right. The problem is Trump. Everything was the United States of America.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Then this Trump guy came in and ruined everything, you know, whereas the reality was always much deeper than that, that like, no, there were these huge problems and that's why a Trump-like figure was so attractive to people. Yeah. But then what happened is Joe Biden came in and nothing went back to normal. It got even crazier than it was under Donald Trump.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
So now people were looking back at the first three years of Donald Trump like that seems pretty normal compared to what we've been going through in the Biden administration. So this sucked a lot of the energy out. And also, you didn't have the mystery of Trump. He's going to be Adolf Hitler in there. No, he's not. He's been in for four years.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
You know, in 2016, they were like, you can't trust him with the nuclear codes. And there was a little bit of a plausible claim to that. Like, I don't know, he would be the first president ever with no political or military experience. And he does seem like a little bit of a wild man, but you can't really sell that anymore after he's been president. So that kind of took away from the energy.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And another thing, and I don't know, I have not, I'm not saying I'm the only one making this point. I haven't heard anyone else making this point. And I just, I think this is a huge part of it, okay? Like a huge part of the reason why
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#2225 - Dave Smith
you didn't see tens of thousands of young people out protesting Trump at Madison Square Garden, you only had like 100 people there, is because those young left-wingers who were reliable shock troops for the regime over the last decade, they've been protesting a genocide for the last year.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
They've spent a full year protesting what they consider, and at least the International Court of Justice plausibly considers, a genocide. And it's very hard to get someone who's been protesting babies being slaughtered to turn around and pretend that something else is way more of an outrage.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And especially to then go protest on behalf of the ones who are doing the genocide that you've been protesting against for the last year. At least funding it. Yeah, right. I mean, listen, man. Yes, it's, I mean, Israel, forget invading Lebanon or going to war with Iran. Israel can't conduct the war in Gaza without the U.S. It's our weapons. It's our money.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
It's our intelligence that they're using to do this. It's, you know, America is, if you view this as a genocide, which I don't really use that word too often, but I do view it as like just horrific genocide. And if you view it that way, there's no way that the U.S. isn't implicated. This only happens because the U.S. is funding and supporting this.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
It doesn't work. This came up a bunch when I was debating Chris Cuomo, but it's like even just the way... the way they talk about you, where it's like, oh, these bro culture guys or something like that. Again, I'm sorry. Objectively, objectively, this isn't an opinion. What happens on this show is so much more intelligent and thoughtful and deep than anything that's going on at CNN.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
You just can't tell. You can't tell me that you sitting down with Elon Musk for three hours and then compare that to like Wolf Blitzer with all his graphics behind him talking for 30 seconds before he goes to a pharmaceutical commercial and then coming back and having the dumbest left winger yell at the dumbest right winger. Really?
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And you guys are going to act like you're the grown-ups in the room? It's too ridiculous. And that's right. So the entire young generation, they've all turned that off. None of them are getting their news from CNN anymore. And look, man, that's, I think, the most beautiful part of this election. Yeah, mainstream media is dead.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
It's way better. Elon Musk buying Twitter was at least as important as Trump winning election again. Maybe more. The most important thing about Trump winning might be that he's able to stop them from coming after Elon Musk.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Yeah, and then he did it at a bigger theater. Of course. Which, by the way, that's another thing that's changed that's really a fascinating thing to me, right? So I've watched this happen, and I know you have too, where the canceling stopped working. It was so effective. And then all of a sudden, it just stopped working. A big part of that is Elon Musk, for sure.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
But there's other factors involved in it too. I mean, but I remember, like, there were guys in... 2016 2017 who were very much like in the national conversation And they got straight up removed from that Milo Milo Yiannopoulos a great example when he went on Bill Maher He had like he killed it on Bill Maher. He killed it on your show Mark compared him to Christopher Hitchens
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Yeah, you're like a gay Christopher Hitchens or something like that. So now, and then he made the other guys look like fools too. So then he gets taken down and he went from being a guy who was very much shaping the national conversation to being just removed from it. And there were other guys. A bit of a drug problem.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Yeah, I'm not even saying there weren't other factors involved, but there were a bunch of people like that who got removed. And I do think, I think the tipping point was when they came for you and it failed. But it seems like around that time. It stopped working. Listen, I heard of Andrew Tate for the first time ever when he got canceled from everything. Right.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
That was when I like, I didn't know who he was before that. And then he was like, oh, the guy who got canceled for everything. And now he's bigger than he ever was. He was like the most Googled man from kickboxing. Yeah.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Oh, yeah, I've seen videos of him fighting. He can really fight.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Right, right. Well, I just, the thing that I found so interesting was just, and it happened with him, a great example is Tucker Carlson. Candace, Candace Owens. Oh, yeah. And then even the thing we were just saying about our boy Schultz. It's like these cancellation attempts, all of a sudden they went from like, oh my God, this could ruin you.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
No. Bro. At the Mothership? Bro. It's like Richard Pryor showed up. Do you have video of the opening? Oh, that's awesome, dude. It's bananas.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
This is the new dynamic now. Yeah. It's like the tool that they used to use to control the narrative is now losing them more and more of the narrative.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
I want to go watch that. I'd love to go watch that. I love that's the best thing in comedy, by the way. The best thing in comedy is like when there's like a huge thing and someone's got there's just something about like when they got new fresh stuff on the thing that just happened is just the best part of stand up.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Dude, I remember literally one of my – like if I had to put a flag down on like five of my favorite moments since I've been in comedy, that show that we did at – what's it called? The Vulcan?
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#2225 - Dave Smith
It was before the Mothership was opened. But it was the day after it came out. And it was amazing. There was something surreal about it. Watching you go on stage – In the moment where you're like in the crosshairs of the biggest cancellation attempt and then having you just do the bit on it is so goddamn good. I mean, you put it out on your last special.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
But watching it the next day after it just happened was like there's just an energy about that that you're just like, oh, shit, dude. And it was just amazing. It was an amazing show.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Oh, dude, I my my favorite show of the year was I just literally I happen to be doing a weekend at the mothership when Trump got got shot. I mean, I was leaving my hotel to walk over. to the mothership, and then just all of a sudden my phone started blowing up, like text, text, text, text, text, all this, and I was like, what the fuck happened here?
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And then I pulled up the video, it was like, oh shit. And then that show, whatever the early show on that day, man, if people were there, it was just the most fun. It's the most fun part of stand-up, where you're almost just like, you go like, well, forget what I thought we were gonna be talking about today, because now we're going in a whole new direction.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
What am I gonna go up there and not talk about this for a half hour?
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#2225 - Dave Smith
how is it possible especially for me like you know it's like well i've got to go do this and it's just something beautiful that's the best part of stand-up comedy man it's a great part and if you're there live it's so fun it's so fun when you know someone is talking about something that just happened it's so fun and i've gotten um i've gotten like uh messages and tweets and stuff like that like from people who are at that show i'll still get like you know like someone i'll like come up and just be like dude i was
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#2225 - Dave Smith
That show, at that time, I'm like, yeah, that was a good one, man. That was a good one.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Come on. Well, also another guy did get killed there. It seems pretty real.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Yeah. I really wonder if Trump's going to try to get to the bottom of that stuff. I don't know how far he can get in there. Or if maybe he just doesn't want to even push it.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
There's both stories with both of the assassination attempts. are very fishy. There's just something that just doesn't add up about all of it.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
It's very weird. Well, look, I mean, so you have, there's the first one where you have this guy is able, and you can see this is all on videotape. This guy is walking around scoping out that roof.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Yeah, he is covering his hands. Okay, so they're not gloves.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Well, the fact that somebody could be able to get up on that roof with a rifle 130 yards away from the president, and then the excuses that they made made absolutely no sense. In a sense, it was too sloped of a roof.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Yeah, all very strange. And then the second one... You've got a guy who has a felony conviction for possession of weapons of mass destruction, where he barricaded himself while police were pursuing him with, like, explosives or something. Is that what he did? Yeah. The charge was weapons of mass destruction. I remember that because, like, I didn't even realize that was a charge.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
I thought that was just something Bush lied about. But evidently, there's a real criminal. So he had bombs? Yeah. Like suicide bombs? You know, I don't know exactly what they were, but I know that was the charge and it was a felony.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And then this motherfucker is recruiting for the Ukrainian war effort and is going back and forth to an active war zone trying to recruit Afghan fighters to fight in the war on the Ukrainian side. And then he comes back and tries to assassinate Donald Trump. And then the entire national conversation is like... is the rhetoric about Donald Trump too far? And you're like, listen, man,
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#2225 - Dave Smith
100% and then there's there's even more guys in I mean Vivek Ramaswamy David Sachs, I mean he's got some really smart guys very successful who are really the Vicks Incredible incredible just excellent and totally brilliant and so right about so many of the major issues. Yes and and Look, I mean, Donald Trump now, he has a real mandate, which is like, this is kind of what's crazy.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
I'm not saying it's not plausible that if you call the guy Hitler every day, maybe some deranged young person will be like, I'm gonna take out Hitler. But when this guy is going and recruiting for the Ukrainian war effort, this doesn't sound to me like someone radicalized by Joy Reid.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
This sounds like something a little deeper is going on. And then there is, much like with Jeffrey Epstein, there is no desire amongst the supposed journalist class
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#2225 - Dave Smith
It's just, look, at the very least, it's very bizarre. And when you have a guy, you know, like, I'm not saying I've got, like, a case I could present in front of a jury and get a conviction. But when you've got a guy who has been targeted by the regime unlike any other political figure in American history, well, let's say since Kennedy...
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Yeah, no, that's right. And so all of that, and then you see these multiple attempts happen. You'd be crazy to not at least want to have some real investigation into this, some interest in looking at this and all that. How about a press conference? Yeah.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Yeah, and we can't get into his phone. He had no social media footprint. Come on, dude. His apartment was professionally scrubbed. Yeah.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Yeah, it's all just very strange. So I wonder, now that Trump's back in, does he look into that? And I'm not even saying, you know, like, really, I just want Trump to end the war. Listen, if Donald Trump... If he secures the border and ends the war in Ukraine, secures the border and- Ramps up oil production in Saudi United States.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Ramps up oil production, does something to help the economy, put him on Mount Rushmore. That's enough, man. You know what I mean? That's enough for me. But I am curious. I wonder where he is. I always wanted to be on Mount Rushmore.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Keep him. All right. Fine. Giant freak of a man. Probably gay. He was a giant freak of a man and definitely, I think, spent a lot of time in cabins with other dudes.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Well, you also got to think, if you're in a world without plumbing and toothbrushes and razors, fucking a man or fucking a woman, not that much different. Not a whole lot different at that point, dude.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Yeah, at that point, you're basically like, you're having sex with an animal is what you're doing.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Well, it's one of the things that I think we've kind of found out with the trans stuff over the last few years is that it's like, there are... There are cultural norms that you can set up where people will do a lot of stuff that you might consider to be very bizarre.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And it's very easy when you don't have those cultural parameters to be like, no one would do that just because you made it acceptable.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And it was like that with Trump, where it's like all the signs are that he's clearly running away with this, but then every single poll told you, no, this is the closest election of your lifetime. And then it was just, there was a very interesting feeling to see it and be like, oh, okay, I'm not crazy. I was observing all the things I was observing.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
This isn't 2016 where, you know, he lost by several million votes in the popular vote, but won the counties that were important and just by the skin of his teeth got in. This is like, he's, I mean, the last I looked, he was up by over 5 million in the popular vote.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Yeah. Yeah. You know, that was actually- I hope he gets raped in prison. Kurt Metzger made this point. I remember it was sometime during like the Me Too movement. Oh, I know what it was. It was when, did you ever see the Law and Order episode where they did like the Me Too comic? No. It's the most ridiculous thing ever, dude. It was just, you know, law and order.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
They just got to bang out a half hour show like every other day or whatever. Yeah. So it was the height of like cancel culture, me too, and all this stuff. And so the theme, I'm not exaggerating this. Okay. The theme is there's a shop comic. And he's making all these rape jokes. And now, of course, they do it in a way like as if this would work at a comedy club.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Like you're just like, hey, you, I hope you get raped. And the crowd's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. So they're at a comedy club. I believe it was filmed at the Comic Strip Live. I think it was there. I'm not sure. But it was at a comedy club. So some girls get up and they walk out because they're very uncomfortable with like, oh, my God, these rape jokes are not funny, blah, blah, blah.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Then the girl leaves, gets raped. Turns out it was the rape comic who rapes her. And that's the, it's the most ridiculous like goddamn story ever. But this was an episode of Law and Order. And then Kurt just started, he made the point that he goes, you know, on this show, it's just a regular thing that they threaten men with rape.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Like every single time they're like interrogating someone, they go, guys, like you don't do very well in prison. You know what I mean? And it's always just like the threat of like, we will put you in a rape torture dungeon if you don't do X, Y, and Z. And I thought it was like a really brilliant point that that's just totally acceptable. Yeah.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Like threatening a man with – guys like you don't do very well in prison is a common like saying and we all know what that means. They're saying you will be anally raped against your will. But whatever. You're a dude. So who cares?
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#2225 - Dave Smith
It's very Freudian, man. And it's old. It's an old culture. This is the Freudian observation, which is a very brilliant one, however people feel about Freud. It's like you repress certain desires, and they reemerge in much darker ways. There's just like you have to have a release valve. Otherwise, it's like human beings go into very, very dark places.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And again, same thing, like you repress it in one area, it's just, it reemerges in a much uglier way than if you had just been. Catholic priests. Yeah, exactly.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
But imagine saying to like a grown man that you can't ever have sex or jerk off. Pfft. That's the expectation? The expectation is that you're supposed to never come?
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Yeah, with still, I think, a few states. Arizona, I think, hasn't finished yet. And so it might even rack up higher than that. But the mandate is very specific. It's like the basic policies of like, okay, immigration control. Can't just have an open border with no control of who comes into our country. A desire to get out of stupid foreign wars. Yes.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Yeah, you're going to draw... If that's the job to sign up to, you're going to draw in some weird people who want to sign up to that job.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
You know, and obviously improve the economy, deal with inflation, things like that. But he's got a mandate to do that right now. And he's got some great people around him. Listen, I was rooting for him as hard as anyone except Tony Hinchcliffe last night.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
But that doesn't prove that they didn't do it. Right. They're just saying it wouldn't work. It doesn't work.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Yeah, that's the one Cosby bragged about, right? That's the creepiest tape ever. The creepiest.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And then he did an episode about it. They did an episode where it says, like, barbecue sauce or something like that. His special barbecue sauce to get everybody horny. What a weird guy. How did, by the way, no one, I guess in the 80s people had a lot of blinders on, but he was just like, hey, I got an idea for the episode.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Maybe it's like we're doing the Huxtable family and I just make my barbecue sauce and all the chicks want to fuck. You're like, wait, what? Why would you do that on the show?
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#2225 - Dave Smith
I thought we were going to do like Theo gets in a fight and then we have to talk to him about keeping his grades up. The importance of homework. Yeah, right. It was just so out of the ordinary for what that show was. And he was like, listen, I'm the star, and it really means a lot to me that we do this episode. How strange.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
But I will say now, I think now till January 20th, the real the pressure should be on on Trump to do better on the appointments than he did last time. He's got a lot of better people around him than he ever had in 2016 or 2020. But he was floating out Mike Pompeo as the secretary of defense. And he did have Mike Pompeo speak at his final campaign event. And.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
How much experimentation did it take to figure out that, like, no, listen, dude, if I piss on the ground, I can make gunpowder. You'd be like, how'd you figure that out? Listen, dude, it's a long story, all right? I was doing a lot of stuff this weekend. What year was this, 1830?
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#2225 - Dave Smith
We're so lucky we live now. Oh, my God. I don't want to live in the time where I got pissed on the dirt to make gunpowder.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
I've always... I've always felt the one, you know, if you could try to guess, like just say if we survive and things improve morally, like what we would look back on and be like, holy shit. And the two to me was always war and prison. And especially like nonviolent, you know, like prisoners. But even violent prisoners, you'd almost think like, where they didn't figure anything else out.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Like they didn't figure anything else out other than, but the idea of like putting non-violent, like victimless criminals in a fucking cage, like human beings, you just throw them in a cage. It's slavery, dude.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
And just the fact that that's still going on while... we have all of these technological advancements. And you know, like if you go, you know, you go down to like St. Jude's or something like that. And they're like, dude, they have all of this technology because all of these brilliant people are here to save babies lives. You know what I mean? Like that's going on. And then also there's war still.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
To be clear, Mike Pompeo is Liz Cheney's pick for defense secretary. It's Hillary Clinton's pick for defense secretary. And so much of this will be lost if he puts that guy in there. He needs to keep all of the Lindsey Grahams and the Mike Pompeos and all of these guys away from his administration. Bring in the non-interventionists, man. No one wants to fight these stupid wars anymore.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Like we haven't figured out a different way. Like everybody doesn't just agree. Like, listen, obviously, To just go on mass slaughter campaigns and have nothing but destruction is in nobody's interest. So here's how we're going to solve these conflicts.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Like, it's just it does seem that like if if human beings survive for another hundred years and we, you know, are at a higher moral level, we would look back at that the way we look back at, you know, witch hunts or like slavery or something like that and be like, that's insane. that people were so evil, you know, that they would, like, they could do such evil stuff.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Like, very hard. And maybe we are, like, moving in that direction where, you know, it does seem, for sure, I think that... The fact that the war in Gaza has had more images come out of it than any other conflict, that's a huge part of the reason why there's so much protest against it.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
Very hard. Very hard. I think me and you might have talked about that last time I was on, right? But it's like. Even the war in Iraq, which is not ancient history, you know, it was still going on. I mean, secondly, we still got troops there now.
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#2225 - Dave Smith
But like the video footage that would come out would be like, you know, it almost looked like a firework, like kind of exploding, which is that's easy to see and root for. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, good guys kicking ass. But when you're seeing a baby being pulled out of rubble who is just suffocated to death. Oh, that's tough.