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#2299 - Dave Smith

Thu, 03 Apr 2025

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Dave Smith is a stand-up comedian, libertarian political commentator, and podcaster. He's the host of the "Part of the Problem" podcast, as well as a co-host of the "Legion of Skanks” podcast. www.comicdavesmith.com 50% off your first box at https://www.thefarmersdog.com/rogan! Try ZipRecruiter FOR FREE at ziprecruiter.com/rogan Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Chapter 1: What are the current political issues discussed by Dave Smith?

00:20 - 00:26 Joe Rogan

Wild, wild times. Where leftists are lighting Teslas on fire and putting swastikas on them.

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00:28 - 00:31 Dave Smith

And that's the calmest they've been in years. This is actually, for them, probably the best.

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00:32 - 00:42 Joe Rogan

It's so weird how these people are so easy to wind up and get them to do what you want them to do. Just put a narrative out there. You're a good person if you go do this. And they just go run out and fucking cause chaos.

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00:43 - 01:00 Dave Smith

And it's the most, I mean, look, it's not like as much chaos as say like the Black Lives Matter protest in 2020 or something, but the one about the test, it's like you're destroying electric cars. Which are mostly owned by liberals. Yeah, but I thought you've been telling me for so long that this is gonna save the world.

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00:00 - 00:00 Dave Smith

Like the importance on going green was that we're all gonna die unless we do it. And now you're taking the most successful electric car company and trying to destroy them. Because for the crime of pointing out that maybe the seven trillion dollars that our federal government spending has a wee bit of corruption in it, you know, like maybe we could cut some of that. It's so I don't know.

00:00 - 00:00 Dave Smith

It's so on every level. It's just so surreal.

00:00 - 00:00 Joe Rogan

It is surreal. It feels fake. It does. It genuinely feels like we're living in some sort of a stupid movie.

00:00 - 00:00 Dave Smith

Yeah. It makes you wonder how controlled the whole thing is. And I don't know. I don't know. But there is a – do you remember – I think I sent it to you at the time. But there was – like four years ago, there was a Time magazine piece about the 2020 election. It was like a real long article about – like the title was something like How the Shadow Government Stole.

00:00 - 00:00 Dave Smith

It wasn't exactly that, but it was like basically went through the real conspiracy of 2020. And they're writing it from the pro-conspiracy point of view. But they're – Forget anything about like ballots or any of that stuff, which I don't, you know, even when you interviewed Trump, he didn't really have a good answer for that. You know, it's like it was stolen.

Chapter 2: How does media influence political narratives?

08:32 - 08:53 Dave Smith

It's almost... Almost always the Warhawks rely on an unfalsifiable counterfactual, you know, so it's like, oh, but if we didn't do this and we ran the counterfactual, it would be this crazy other scenario that's somehow even worse than this. Now, the problem with that, from my perspective, is number one.

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08:54 - 09:19 Dave Smith

The factual scenario is something like four to five million dead civilians over the last 25 years, entire nations destroyed, $8 trillion depleted from the US Treasury, tens of thousands of our bravest young men blowing their brains out. So if you're relying on this unfalsifiable counterfactual, but it would have been worse if we hadn't

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09:19 - 09:42 Dave Smith

Fought a war in Iraq and Afghanistan and Syria and Libya and Somalia and Yemen and all these places over the last years. Okay. I'd say the onus is on you to really have to demonstrate that and not just assert that it would be worse if we hadn't done this. But also, like... You know, we are going broke doing it. We're $36 trillion in debt. We can't even afford it.

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09:42 - 10:06 Dave Smith

And the idea that if we were to get out of the game of being the world empire, then like China would go, okay, great. Now we get to destroy ourselves. And it just seems completely – it seems extremely unlikely that that would be the case. And also – You know, it's like people act like, okay, if we weren't doing this in Ukraine, then Vladimir Putin could do whatever he wanted to.

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00:00 - 00:00 Dave Smith

Or if we weren't doing this, then China could do whatever they wanted to. But they've got adversaries all around them, too, who are richer than them. Maybe not in China's case, but certainly in Putin's case, richer than them, are opposed to them. All of Western Europe is not just a pushover. China has Japan and South Korea, and they've got their own...

00:00 - 00:00 Dave Smith

You know, the truth is that nobody has the power that the U.S. government has to do this shit. It's only like we're the ones who can do this. And it would just be a better world if we just didn't. Like, you just can't convince me that like if we just hadn't have fought the terror wars, like which was totally a possibility.

00:00 - 00:00 Dave Smith

We could we had the whole war on terrorism could have been over by Christmas of 2001 with the special ops taken out the Al Qaeda cells. They could have trapped Osama bin Laden and Tora Bora when they had him there. And they let him escape into Pakistan. Why do you think they did that? Because they already had their eye on Baghdad. And if Osama bin Laden is caught, you don't get your bonus war.

00:00 - 00:00 Dave Smith

You know what I mean? The whole war propaganda for invading Afghanistan, everyone remembers WMDs, but it wasn't just that claim. It was the claim which Dick Cheney and George W. Bush and all the neocons pushed real hard, was that he was in on 9-11. Now, this totally fell apart because it was never true and they knew it wasn't true.

00:00 - 00:00 Dave Smith

But the claim was he's got these weapons and he could hand them off to the terrorists. And then, you know, what was the Condoleezza Rice line was like, we don't want the warning to be in the form of a mushroom cloud or something like that. The fear was they're going to nuke Kansas or whatever as soon as.

Chapter 3: What role does the US play in global conflicts according to Dave Smith?

16:27 - 16:46 Joe Rogan

But I'm pretty sure she's right. I don't know. I might be wrong. I think she's right. The whole thing stinks. And what stinks way worse than that giant distraction is that the number one opponent for Macron just got sentenced to four years in jail and barred from political life for five years.

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16:46 - 16:50 Dave Smith

And the frontrunner, not just the number one opponent, the one who's winning. Yeah. Winning. Yeah. Yeah.

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16:50 - 16:55 Joe Rogan

It's fucking crazy. It's what they try to do to Trump. Plus.

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16:55 - 17:13 Dave Smith

Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, they were able to take it further. Yeah. And then we'll see if there is the backlash the same way there was when they tried to do that to Trump. And it's just so it's like the the. There's some propaganda that's almost too... It can't be successful propaganda.

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00:00 - 00:00 Dave Smith

Saying Saddam Hussein has weapons of mass destruction and is in bed with terrorists, that's good propaganda right there. Right after 9-11, you could totally convince the average American that, okay, well, we can't let that stand. In a post-9-11 world, we can't allow some Arab dictator to have nuclear weapons and he's friends with the terrorists and he's in on 9-11. Okay, we got... But to say...

00:00 - 00:00 Dave Smith

The propaganda is democracy is on the ballot while you're trying to arrest your opponent because he's winning in the polls. It's too ridiculous. It's too on its face. It's not only that.

00:00 - 00:00 Joe Rogan

You have to say what you're arresting him for. And then when people look at it, you're like, wait, Mar-a-Lago is worth how much? Hold on, hold on, hold on. 34 what? Bookkeeping errors? They're misdemeanors? Where's the felony? Isn't it past the statute of limitations? It is.

00:00 - 00:00 Dave Smith

And nobody's ever been tried on this chart. This is a novel, like a charge where it would be a misdemeanor, but you've ramped it up to a felony. And there's no victim. And there's no victim involved. The banks themselves are telling you, we were happy to do business with Donald Trump.

00:00 - 00:00 Joe Rogan

We do business with him again.

Chapter 4: What is the impact of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict on global politics?

81:56 - 82:17 Joe Rogan

To be like, hey, listen, he is totally... The thing is, I want to know, was he on his neck the whole time? Because I had heard that he was on his shoulder. But that is on his neck. I'd have to go watch that horrible video over again. I don't want to do that. Yeah, it's dark. I was watching some horrible videos today from Gaza.

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82:17 - 82:24 Joe Rogan

This guy carrying around a headless baby, showing what happened to his child. It's just so fucked. Another guy was holding a child's arm in his hand.

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82:25 - 82:54 Dave Smith

Dude, it is so fucked. The level of evil that this shit is. I know you've seen it, but you see the drone videos, like the aerial footage of Gaza? Gaza's gone. It's gone. They fucking destroyed the whole goddamn place. It's hard to believe. I saw one estimate said that it was 90%. of the population has been, what's the word I'm looking for? That they've been- Displaced? Displaced, yeah.

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82:54 - 82:57 Dave Smith

90% of them are- Who's the 10% gangster that's still there?

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00:00 - 00:00 Joe Rogan

I'm good. Find that guy and train him. That's your Rambo. But it is- What is this, Jamie?

00:00 - 00:00 Jamie

Three of the cops were found guilty of violating his rights and one other one got pled guilty to aiding and abetting second degree murder or manslaughter.

00:00 - 00:00 Joe Rogan

Yeah, that was the Asian guy.

00:00 - 00:00 Jamie

He got three and a half years. Jesus. Look at that.

00:00 - 00:00 Joe Rogan

Eating and bedding. Yeah. Yeah.

Chapter 5: How has Donald Trump's presidency influenced American politics?

102:28 - 102:51 Joe Rogan

And if you do that en masse, which they did, they invited people, helped people. The Red Cross was giving them maps, like, this is how you do it. They had stops along the way where you give them water and walk right through when everybody just gets to be on a bus and you get shipped off to swing states. That literally happened. And people on the left do not want to address it.

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102:51 - 102:54 Joe Rogan

They want to deny it. It was an attempt to take over.

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102:55 - 103:16 Dave Smith

Yeah, and look, I'll say, I know this, because I'm like, I guess one of the benefits of getting older and paying attention to this shit is I can remember shit from 15, 20 years ago. I was paying attention then. And I remember all of them admitting this was their plan. Like literally all of the Joy Reid and Rachel Maddow and all they used to call it the browning of America.

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103:17 - 103:39 Dave Smith

And they used to openly brag about how the Democrat will have super permanent majorities forever because look like, hey, you old dying white Republicans like, sorry, that's it for you because the Latinos vote overwhelmingly for Democrat. And we're going to be a majority minority country and then a majority Hispanic country. And then the Democrats rule the day forever. So this is just.

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00:00 - 00:00 Dave Smith

You know, Mitt Romney or whoever's running for president right now, this is the dying throes of the end of a. But then when people started objecting to that policy and they they called it the browning of America. And then when people objected to it, they would call it the great replacement or whatever. And then they'd go, you're not allowed to say that. That means you're a Nazi.

00:00 - 00:00 Dave Smith

And you're like, but I just heard you saying it like five years ago. I heard you say you can't use the term replacement. Yeah, it was.

00:00 - 00:00 Dave Smith

So there was this weird – and then there was also the – one of the other big tells of this was the way they attempted, which really failed, but the way they attempted to make voter ID like a toxic racist policy, which was so – I mean the logic of it just collapses on itself because if it's – first of all, it seems like some bigotry of low expectations to imply that black people are like –

00:00 - 00:00 Dave Smith

just can't figure out how to get ID.

00:00 - 00:00 Joe Rogan

Do you remember Kathy Hochul saying that they don't know what computers are?

Chapter 6: What are the implications of George Floyd's death on policing and protests?

121:39 - 121:56 Dave Smith

And they were just straight up terrorists. That's what they were doing. Terrorism in order to drive out an occupying force. You can't make this shit up is what led to the creation of Israel. And now they're like, you know. Kind of universally regarded as terrorist groups. Oh, you just self-admitted terrorist groups. Like, we're committing acts of terrorism.

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121:56 - 122:15 Dave Smith

There were debates about whether we should embrace terrorism or not. And the side saying we should embrace terrorism won the day. This is how Chaim Weizmann... He was supposed to be the David Ben-Gurion. He was the number one ranked Zionist at the time. And he stood up and was like, yo, we can't do this. We can't embrace terrorism. Like, his thing was like...

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122:15 - 122:35 Dave Smith

We can't achieve a Jewish state by un-Jewish means, which he considered terrorism to be. Like this violates our religion. We can't do this. But even him, there was this one point, which I had never heard before, but I learned it from Daryl Cooper's series. I think it was probably one of the things that stuck with me the most. was that, if you remember, it's right toward the end.

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122:35 - 122:56 Dave Smith

It's when they're doing the King David Hotel bombing and they're doing all this terrorism to try to drive the British out. And at one point, the British caught a few of the, I can't remember if it was from the Ergon or the Lehigh, but it was from one of those two militias, and they caught a few of their guys and they publicly flogged them or something like that.

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00:00 - 00:00 Dave Smith

And then Menachem Begin and his terrorist boys, they got a few... Of like the British soldiers. And they fucking flogged the shit out of them and then killed them and then booby trapped the bodies so that it fucking blew up more people when they came to try to get it back. And now he's a wanted man at this time, Menachem Begin. So he's like living underground.

00:00 - 00:00 Dave Smith

And so he then he did like a radio address. And in his radio address, he was like he said something like he was like, hey, just so you know, Jews don't get flogged anymore. We do the flogging now. And look, this guy was a bad guy. He was a fucking terrorist. But there is something so badass about that that there is a part of you that's just like, whew.

00:00 - 00:00 Dave Smith

You can kind of understand a people going through this fucking collective struggle and then getting to a point where they're like, we will be the ones inflicting struggle from now on, not the ones receiving it. And I – look, I still come out on the side that I think Israel's treatment of the Palestinians is horrible and inexcusable and I favor a two-state solution.

00:00 - 00:00 Dave Smith

I think America should stop funding Israel. But I think it's nothing but beneficial to kind of like understand that perspective a little bit more. And even though I kind of grew up on the pro-Israel propaganda and then ultimately rejected it … That was Daryl's effect on me was being like, ah, you know, there is like I'm seeing the humanity in the Israeli side a little bit more. Yeah.

00:00 - 00:00 Dave Smith

So give me a fucking break about these people saying like he's some fucking neo-Nazi drumming up Jew hatred.

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