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Part Of The Problem

Responding to Konstantin

Thu, 24 Apr 2025

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Dave Smith brings you the latest in politics! On this episode of Part Of The Problem, Dave is joined by co-host Robbie "The Fire" Bernstein to discuss Konstantin's video regarding his most read article regarding Dave's Debate, and more.Support Our Sponsors:Monetary Metals - https://www.monetary-metals.com/potp/Ridge - https://ridge.com/potp10Better Help - https://Betterhelp.com/problem for 10% off your first monthYoKratom - https://yokratom.com/Part Of The Problem is available for early pre-release at https://partoftheproblem.com as well as an exclusive episode on Thursday!PORCH TOUR DATES HERE:https://www.eventbrite.com/cc/porch-tour-2025-4222673Find Run Your Mouth here:YouTube - http://youtube.com/@RunYourMouthiTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/run-your-mouth-podcast/id1211469807Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/4ka50RAKTxFTxbtyPP8AHmFollow the show on social media:X:http://x.com/ComicDaveSmithhttp://x.com/RobbieTheFireInstagram:http://instagram.com/theproblemdavesmithhttp://instagram.com/robbiethefire#libertarianSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Chapter 1: What are the main sponsors of the podcast?

0.289 - 21.037 Dave Smith

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52.292 - 63.716 Dave Smith

It's a beautiful day outside. It feels like spring is finally here, Rob. I think it's going to be 80 degrees today. So I'm going to have to trade in this hoodie for a T-shirt after this podcast.

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63.736 - 65.697 Robbie 'The Fire' Bernstein

I'm going to go oil up my tits and sunbathe, baby.

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66.017 - 96.994 Dave Smith

There you go. Now there's a visual for you. All right. OK, so let's let's jump into this today. You know, I was full disclosure. I was a little conflicted about whether or not to even do a response to this. But I decided Twitter beef will go unsquashed. Well, you know, look, I do, I feel like I, you know, at the risk of, I don't want to beat some of these topics to death.

98.836 - 120.909 Dave Smith

But at the same time, you know, when somebody is making, when somebody is specifically making content about you and it's being viewed by hundreds of thousands of people, there does, you know, there's a feeling of like, well, I should respond to this, especially when I think they're making very bad arguments. Shockingly bad arguments, I would say.

Chapter 2: What is the background of the Twitter beef?

121.989 - 146.606 Dave Smith

And, you know, look, I mean, this debate is just, it's been huge. It's really been unbelievable to me that it just has not stopped. Like, I kind of thought it would be like a few days of being crazy, but it is just, there were a couple of weeks later and it is still just, you know, really crazy, the response to it. And anyway, so the video, I'm going to respond to Konstantin Kassin's video.

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147.766 - 170.149 Dave Smith

um he we've tweeted back and forth many times over the years at each other but recently this morning he uh he irked me a little bit with something he said so i was like all right you know what maybe it makes sense to do a response to this he certainly seems to want to jump in to the conversation so let's do it um i as as i've said before many times i uh

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170.869 - 178.853 Dave Smith

I, I claim the right to respond when I am criticized. And so this is, I'll be exercising that right today. I do think.

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179.453 - 181.034 Robbie 'The Fire' Bernstein

And I'll be obliged.

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181.614 - 205.798 Dave Smith

Yes. Well, look, I mean, me, me and Constantine, I think have, you know, I have, I don't remember every interaction, but I think we've done a pretty good job of remaining civil while going back and forth and disagreeing on things. It seems to me like over the last couple of times he's tweeted at me that that civility is going away a little bit. I'm, you know, like I always am.

Chapter 3: Why is Konstantin Kassin's video significant?

206.078 - 221.308 Dave Smith

My starting point is always like, let's talk about the ideas. Let's debate the issues. But if you want to be insulting and vicious, like, OK, I'll do that, too, if that's what you want. I'll kind of try. I'm going to try my best not to do that in this episode.

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221.328 - 242.96 Dave Smith

He did tweet at me something this morning about how he's always said I was very intelligent, but now he's beginning to question that or something like that. And it's just, you know, with all of these things, it's like, look, I get into sparring with people and I'm on Twitter and I do, you know, internet debates and stuff. And so I've, I've been a part of all of this.

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The truth is that I really do care about the issues that I'm talking about. And I just find them to be much more interesting. Like I don't give a shit what Constantine, what Constantine thinks of my intelligence. Like who cares? It's just the most uninteresting and unimportant thing. Anyway, the, What I do care about is some of the ideas that he is presenting here.

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265.611 - 289.576 Dave Smith

So he made a – well, he wrote an article, and this is how he does it. He writes articles, and then he reads them. So we'll go through the video because that's a better – more enjoyable way to do it for podcast listeners. So let's jump into it. This was Konstantin Kassin's take on the debate between me and Douglas Murray. And he did, excuse me, playing there.

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289.856 - 311.562 Dave Smith

He did say, which was interesting, that this is his most read article ever. And, you know, probably just because it was, you know, you have a debate on Joe Rogan. There's just not that many debates on Joe Rogan's show. And it's the biggest show. And we had, you know, two big names debating about the most contentious issue.

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So it makes sense to me that this would be a, you know, a widely read article. All right.

316.285 - 317.006 Natalie

Let's sorry.

317.286 - 317.826 Dave Smith

Go ahead, Natalie.

Chapter 4: What are the arguments about media credibility?

317.846 - 343.586 Konstantin Kassin

You can play it. Prepare for the unprecedented. I'm about to admit I was wrong. For years, I've celebrated the rise of new media and its impact on our ability to seek truth, challenge false narratives peddled by legacy institutions, and transform the way we conduct our public debate. The rationale behind my thought process seemed solid. After all, the medium is the message.

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The reason I thought our conversations about politics, culture, and entertainment had become so fake was the rapidly shrinking soundbite and a media elite more interested in winning than learning.

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Journalism, academia, and politics merged into a monoculture whose consensus rested primarily on the vigorous inhalation of gases emanating from their own backsides into which they'd firmly inserted their heads. I don't know anyone who voted for Trump was their mantra.

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371.139 - 388.819 Konstantin Kassin

Far from being a confession of ignorance and a lack of perspective, this phrase was uttered with pride at dinner parties to signal membership of the elite class. The response from this contingent to the sequential dismantling of their core assumptions about the way the world works was an attempt to use credentialism to make reality go away.

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389.68 - 407.034 Konstantin Kassin

Experts think vaccinating newborns against COVID is essential. Now pipe down, mask up, and follow the science, TM. In decades past, absent the ability to make their voices heard, the proles would have had to grumble away about Big Pharma in obscurity, as people, mostly hippie lefties, had been doing for ages.

407.714 - 426.912 Konstantin Kassin

But thanks to the technological revolution, which reduced the cost of running a major broadcasting channel from millions of dollars to the price of a smartphone, the era of gatekeeping was well and truly over. The discredit to mainstream media continued to peddle lie after lie in an attempt to keep its political opponents from governing and being reelected.

427.472 - 444.148 Konstantin Kassin

But it then faced a powerful counterweight. Elon Musk ended the regime of censorship and enforcement bias in the digital public square of Twitter, declaring, you are the media now. As major podcasts and YouTube shows secured audiences, most mainstream media outlets can now only dream of.

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By the time of the last year's presidential election in America, the rise of new media had become undeniable, with many rightly calling it the podcast election.

Chapter 5: How does new media challenge traditional narratives?

453.451 - 472.659 Konstantin Kassin

Curious, open-minded, inquisitive podcasters, unrestrained by the need to comply with corporate media message discipline and social media censorship, were finally able to speak freely, seek the truth, and debate controversial ideas in good faith in front of grateful audiences of millions. So far, so wonderful. We could pause it right there.

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473.499 - 498.582 Dave Smith

i could not agree more with the so far so wonderful point so this is i mean i think a pretty good start that me and you rob would probably largely agree with i mean i do think to some degree he's still he's underselling exactly how corrupt and evil the old media guard was but more or less that's uh i think what he's starting with there is exactly right and it's exactly the type of stuff that we've been saying for a long time

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499.203 - 519.371 Dave Smith

on this show. There's just no question This is what's happened. You know, I mean, the corporate media lost all of their trust. They were you. They were lying and weaponizing these lies for to maintain power. It got to a point where everyone saw through it. And now people are pursuing alternate voices.

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519.811 - 536.158 Dave Smith

I guess the only thing in there that I kind of disagree with is that there was never you know, when he says the era of gatekeeping was finally over. Well, that's not exactly ever true. it's never the case that there's no gatekeeping. You know what I'm saying?

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Like there's always, it's just became a much more decentralized group of gatekeepers, but there's still always going to be some voices who get in and some voices who don't. Every show, no matter what the show is, they get to choose who they have on and who they don't have on. It's just that you don't get to gatekeep in the same way. So like,

560.478 - 581.164 Dave Smith

Let's say, for example, you're talking about the idea of vaccines. Well, the pharmaceutical companies with their somewhat significant influence over the corporate media can gatekeep voices like Bobby Kennedy from ever getting on there. But if Joe Rogan wants to have Bobby Kennedy on, there's nothing they could do about it. The same can also be said for the military industrial complex.

581.524 - 608.406 Dave Smith

I mean, if you turn on CNN or MSNBC or Fox News, you are hearing from former CIA director former Pentagon employee, former director of national intelligence, but you're not hearing voices like whether left or right, you're just not hearing the people who are outside of that, or very rarely hearing the people who are outside of that establishment. But now, Tucker Carlson gets to decide.

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It's not up to some suit in a corporation somewhere. It's up to the guy who's built the trust with his audience, like it or not. So anyway, that would just be my only bit of critique there. But a good start from Konstantin Kassin. It seems like we've got a great bit of content here. He gets it. We'll see. Any thoughts on any of this, Rob?

634.336 - 660.152 Robbie 'The Fire' Bernstein

uh well i'm looking forward to the pivot to hey but there's this one thing that's just too important for people to be allowed to have freedom but not israel everything else is fine just not we got wars to fight here and that's different than when you heard that pitch from people that wanted to tell you that about global warming and that's different than when you heard it about covid and it's different when you heard it countless other times but this one is actually so important

Chapter 6: What is the significance of the Joe Rogan debate?

703.94 - 715.745 Konstantin Kassin

Now, having transitioned from a career in comedy to my current role as writer, interviewer and political commentator, I can hardly complain about the meshing of culture, politics and entertainment. And I am not complaining.

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716.326 - 727.036 Konstantin Kassin

I'm merely pointing out that the incentive structures and thought patterns we would typically associate with the entertainment business are not the same as those we would expect to see in journalism and academia.

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727.496 - 737.806 Konstantin Kassin

This difference was perfectly illustrated in the recent debate between journalist and author Douglas Murray and comedian and podcaster Dave Smith on the Joe Rogan Experience, the world's biggest podcast.

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738.248 - 759.821 Konstantin Kassin

Officially, the full three-hour discussion was mostly about the wars in Gaza and Ukraine, with Smith being in the so-called anti-war camp and Murray being a supporter of both Israel's campaign to eliminate Hamas and Ukraine's struggle to retain its sovereignty and independence. These conflicts and both men's positions have been debated endlessly. That part of the discussion is less relevant here.

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760.442 - 765.965 Konstantin Kassin

The much more interesting fault lines were exposed on the fringes of the debate. The conversation began with a...

768.735 - 775.477 Dave Smith

That's a mighty convenient approach to have. It's a mighty convenient... Sorry, go ahead.

775.497 - 777.698 Robbie 'The Fire' Bernstein

The bulk of the conversation or the substance of it.

778.659 - 803.772 Dave Smith

Like, I mean, it's wild to me how many people who want to find a way to defend Douglas Murray in this debate, which just on so many levels to me seems to be like a crazy losing game. Like, I just like, why would you want to go down with this sinking ship? But okay. But really, to just brush away, forget about any of the content of the debate. That's been debated before.

804.492 - 820.944 Dave Smith

Well, OK, but like there's two wars raging on right now. You know, again, as I've made the point before, I often call what's going on in Gaza a war. Not really sure that's the appropriate name for it. But no, I am sorry, especially if you're going to be talking about like

Chapter 7: How do historical interpretations shape our views?

984.591 - 1010.46 Dave Smith

Rob, you can't just have podcasters talking about these things, says a podcaster. I mean, there's no problem having Dave Rubin and Bill Maher talk about them. We need experts. But, like, they're supposed to be experts. No, no, no. What this all is is just a naked, like, I don't like that they disagree with me. I don't like the people who are critical of Israel or critical of Ukraine.

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1010.64 - 1035.82 Dave Smith

I don't like them getting platformed. Essentially what's happening here, and this is just the fact, right, is that our side is winning. We're winning the battle on the podcast front. And yes, I mean, Constantine kind of lays it out there. Yes, this became the new center of where the American political conversation is happening. And because, and in large part,

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1036.4 - 1055.267 Dave Smith

It's because, well, I mean, it's a mix of things, but in large part, it has to do with the fact that the biggest podcasters happen to be really open to this anti-war point of view. And they've heard people make the anti-war argument and they're like, shit, that is really compelling.

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1055.567 - 1080.669 Dave Smith

In the case of Tucker Carlson, for example, I mean, he's really like, what went from being kind of like essentially a neocon and then went to Iraq, he's been there and then got turned around on it and was like, oh my God, this is a disaster what we're doing here. But so because of that now, The gatekeepers, the new decentralized gatekeepers, aren't keeping the anti-war voices out.

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And so we've got a shot now to make our argument, and we're winning. Now, you could see this in opinion polls. Support for the war in Ukraine has gone way down since the beginning of the war, and support for the war or Israel's assault on Gaza has gone way down, particularly with the younger generation. And so this is essentially it. It's like you're losing the argument.

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Chapter 8: What are the implications of censorship in discourse?

1187.497 - 1206.63 Robbie 'The Fire' Bernstein

Or maybe the FCC should take over podcasting. and also make sure that there's no curse words or sexual content of any kind. I mean, what legislative body is supposed to reside over this misinformation on the Internet and make sure that it does not appear so that Israel can continue to have public support?

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1207.33 - 1212.473 Dave Smith

Well, let's see if Constantine lays it out. It's an interesting question, Rob. Here, let's keep playing.

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1213.871 - 1234.256 Konstantin Kassin

discussion of Rogan's decision to host Daryl Cooper, a man described by Tucker Carlson as America's most important popular historian. Cooper himself has the self-awareness not to own the label of historian, instead describing himself as a storyteller. His latest work is a series whose aim is to show World War II from the perspective of the Germans.

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1234.916 - 1245.306 Konstantin Kassin

To those who have studied World War II extensively, like Murray, Cooper's comments on Tucker Carlson's show and his podcast with Joe Rogan are obvious and frankly boringly familiar Nazi apologia.

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1245.826 - 1265.32 Konstantin Kassin

Far from being novel, the idea peddled by Cooper that Churchill was a warmonger who, quote, turned the invasion of Poland into a global war because, quote, he was funded by Zionist financiers, formed the core of wartime propaganda fabricated by Nazi spin doctor Joseph Goebbels. The argument that Cooper advances... Yeah, let's pause it.

1265.76 - 1281.81 Robbie 'The Fire' Bernstein

So is Douglas Murray the credentialed historian that gets to legislate what history is supposed to take place on the internet? Or is it supposed to be some sort of other administrative body that should be able to rule in Douglas's favor? Is there a court in which these opinions should be presented?

1282.47 - 1299.36 Dave Smith

It's a very good point because if you notice, and then, you know, he's veering into Constantine here, which is, again, it's identical to woke leftists. I don't even know. I know, you know, sometimes I'll argue that they're the woke right, but they're not. They're the left. They're just woke. I don't know. It's, oh, yes, Nazi apology.

1299.4 - 1315.229 Dave Smith

If you're not even allowed to discuss these issues, you're not allowed to look at anything from the other point of view, even when he says things that are mainstream history. Like there's the you know, like the claim that Adolf Hitler was downplaying his anti-Semitism in the early 30s.

1315.609 - 1333.8 Dave Smith

There's I'm blanking on the historian's name, but he did a whole thing on this about how at the at the Olympics, I think it was that Sagar and Jetty was just talking about this on Breaking Points. But or maybe it was Ryan. One of them was talking about this. But I had read this book many years ago, but.

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