Andrew Huberman

Welcome to Huberman Lab Essentials, where we revisit past episodes for the most potent and actionable science-based tools for mental health, physical health, and performance.

I'm Andrew Huberman, and I'm a professor of neurobiology and ophthalmology at Stanford School of Medicine.

And now for my discussion with Dr. Rhonda Patrick.

Rhonda, welcome.

Thank you.

I have so many questions, but I want to start off with a kind of a new but old theme.

that you're very familiar with.

So temperature is a powerful stimulus, as we know for biology, and you've covered a lot of material related to the utility of cold, but also the utility of heat.

And as I learn more and more from your content and from the various papers, it seems that cold can stimulate a number of things like increases in metabolism, brown fat, et cetera, et cetera, but heat seems to be able to do a lot of the same things.

And I wonder whether or not the discomfort of cold, deliberate cold exposure, and the discomfort of heat might be anchoring to the same pathway.

So would you mind sharing with us a little bit about what happens when we get into a cold environment on purpose and what happens when we get into a hot environment on purpose?

You mentioned plants as a route to creating intermittent challenge.

There's a lot of debate, mostly online, about whether or not plants are our friends or plants are trying to kill us.

The extreme version from the carnivore types, pure carnivore diet types, is that plants are trying to kill us.

Can we cook the broccoli and still get these nutrients or do we have to eat raw?

I confess eating raw broccoli is really aversive to me.

Are you eating this every day or most days of the week?

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