We Can Do Hard Things
Being the Boss of Yourself with RHOBH’s Bozoma Saint John (Best Of)
Wed, 12 Mar 2025
1. The inspiring pep talk Bozoma gives herself in the mirror – and why we might all want to start using it to rally ourselves. 2. How to navigate the tightrope of corporate expectations for women: to be both self-assured and humble; both hard and soft. 3. The revolutionary realization that you don’t have to be the savior of others – you can save yourself, too. 4. How to know when to dig deep, and stay and fight for change – and when to stop digging and go – and the moment Bozoma knew it was time to leave Netflix. 5. Why our inability to forgive ourselves for wrong decisions keep us in bad situations – and how Boz’s “it’s not you, it’s me” philosophy can guide us out. About Bozoma: Bozoma Saint John is a Hall of Fame inducted Marketing Executive, author, entrepreneur, and general badass. Boz has led Global Consumer Marketing at Apple Music & iTunes; she was Chief Brand Officer at Uber; and Global Chief Marketing Officer at Netflix. Boz is currently named #1 Most Influential CMO in the world by Forbes, and has been named one of Billboard’s Most Powerful Women in Music for 10 consecutive years. In 2021, Harvard Business School published a multi-media case study on her career, titled “Leading with Authenticity and Urgency”; through which she developed and taught a program at the University aptly named “The Anatomy of a Badass.” Boz was named as an Ambassador for the African Diaspora and Special Envoy to the President of Ghana. In the Spring of 2023, Penguin Books will publish her memoir, “The Urgent Life.” Boz counts her highest achievement as being a mother to her 12 year old daughter, Lael. TW: @badassboz IG: @badassboz To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: Why does Bozoma advocate for self-pep talks?
So question. First question. Yes. Glennon. Yes. Are you still being an African auntie? Are you checking your WhatsApp?
I don't check WhatsApp anymore.
I'm very, very disappointed. Because Lovey and I taught you about WhatsApp and the importance of it. If you were going to be a true African auntie, you have to check your WhatsApp because that's how the messages come. And I sent you a video from this morning. Wait, hold on. Let me see if I can just play it here so you can see it. Maybe you won't hear the sound. This was critical this morning.
It was God talking to me this morning. Okay. What did God say to you? God said this. Can you kind of see? God said. It's my mother. What? And her shirt says I can do hard things.
No way.
This morning? This morning. I came in from the gym and she was in the kitchen. And she was dancing around, wearing a shirt that said, I can do hard things. And I looked at her and I was just like, where did that come from? And she was like, oh, do you like it? I was like, why did you do that? And she was like, oh, this is just a shirt. I just put it on.
We both freaked out when I told her what was going on today. Oh, my gosh. So I sent it to you on WhatsApp and look at you. You missed the message.
Destined.
I know it was destined because we have been so delighted all morning because we knew we were about to see your face and we haven't seen you for a while. I know. I miss both of you so much. First of all, I should tell everyone what's happening. There are a lot of people listening and they're like, this is a lovely conversation, but who's talking? What's happening? Welcome to We Can Do Hard Things.
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Chapter 2: How can women navigate corporate expectations?
And then you came back and said, oh, it's ours. Nobody remembers that I said it because you said it. But that's the thing. It's like, again, I'm just like, ah! You know, it's like sometimes you just feel so frustrated because I'm just like, where is my voice? You know, it's like, yes, we are going further because the woman's story went forward, but it was taken forward by the white woman.
And she didn't even acknowledge me. Yes. And so then it's like, okay, well, here I am again by my damn self.
Having to be the kind of jerk afterwards in that post-meeting going, actually, no, you stole my idea. That wasn't ours. And that makes you feel like a jerk, but like you're still having to do it.
Yes. And by the way, everybody thinks you're a bitch. Yeah. You know how many times I've been called arrogant, selfish, a bitch? You know how many times? All the time. And I'm like, no, I'm not selfish. I'm not a bitch. I'm just asking to be acknowledged. Yep. I'm just asking to be seen. That's it. It is the lowest of things I'm asking for. The lowest.
I didn't even ask you to call me a genius, which I fucking am.
Yes.
I just asked you to see me. That's it. That's it.
Low bars here. Now I'm selfish.
You know what I mean? Because I said, oh, no, it wasn't your idea. It was my idea. Oh, this is teamwork, though. Oh, really? You seem to be the only one in the team.
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