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#2716 Crappy Hour 2/03/2025 Gretchen Rossi Returns, Spencer Pratt holds grudge against Andy Cohen, Paige DeSorbo moves on
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Well, hello and welcome to Crappy Hour, February 3rd, 2025. I'm Ronnie Karam. That's Ben Mandelker over there. Hello, Ben.
hi ronnie how's it going good what's going on with you baby not much just you know just getting back into the swing of things back in la feels good to be back here what's going on with you same laundry back to the unglamorous life like fly back and you got to do all the crap that you left behind the first time i was like guess i should clean out the fridge now i know same
There's a lot of sad vegetables that wound up in the bean. But, you know, I'm just getting back into the swing of things. But I'm excited. Excited to talk some crappy hour with you today. By the way, you know, we said it on the show earlier today, but for those who didn't hear it, like, thanks again to everyone who showed up.
at our show on, uh, on Saturday, um, whether they were, and honestly also in San Diego and San Francisco, but whether you were an audience member or a guest or anything else, um, really, thank you so much. We had so much fun putting on that show. It was so much work and you guys made it all worth it really was. It was the best one we've ever done.
It was kind of like a thrill of a lifetime for me with no exaggeration.
That was a really fun time. The audience was lit. And then going out after and meeting so many of you was so nice. Everybody's so sweet. Everyone's so nice to each other. You know, there were all these people who came alone. And then by the end, they had the whole tribe. You had Richie D. Caduz over there. He made an amazing party. At Ross, too. Let me just... And who?
Ross also was Ross in the in the crappens. Reddit was also very active in creating that party, I think.
Yes. Thank you, guys. It was so good. I have to hand it to Richie D. That guy can party his face off. I mean, they started at six and he was still there at like eleven thirty when we finally got there and standing, still standing barely, but still standing. Cutest red suit. They had a whole drink menu. I mean, the whole thing was great, you know.
Yeah, it was fabulous. And by the way, I don't want to take credit away from Richie if he was the one who organized it. I just saw like Ross had done like a big giant post on Reddit with like lots of information. So at the very least, thank you, Ross, for helping organize and let people know where to go, etc. We only put in 30 minutes because we had to fly out the next day.
But what it was a really, really, really great night. That was fantastic. It was a big deal for me personally. So I just thanks everyone.
Well, so some big news went down in the Bravo sphere. Well, since the last crappy hour, the biggest and the most shocking, honestly, is they're bringing back Gretchen. So here's my question. Gretchen is coming back to OC. Did Andy just stop having a say? Did they just fire Andy and didn't tell anybody? Because I can't imagine him being OK with that.
I can't imagine being like, you know what's a good idea? Let's bring back Gretchen.
What do you think? I know. It's not that Gretchen was so bad. Gretchen sucks. But in the beginning, there have been way worse people. But the producers themselves acknowledged that after Tamara kind of destroyed Gretchen after her first season. Gretchen became more and more closed off. And do you remember that when they had that behind the scenes of season eight or nine of Orange County?
For a moment, Bravo was doing this thing where they took us inside
like real housewives and so they did one of like her final season which lydia was on also and the producers said on that special that after tamra like raked gretchen over the coals with about that phone call whatever after gretchen's first season gretchen really put up a lot of walls and she became less and less authentic to who she was to the point that eventually they just they had to get rid of her because she just wasn't giving them what they wanted
So I was surprised that given that background, they brought Gretchen back into the mix. It's like, what is Gretchen offering? And like, do we really need Slade Smiley? Jesus. I honestly feel like it's some play that, you know, the political climate has changed in this country and Gretchen Rossi kind of feels like she matches the current political climate.
So I think Bravo's kind of like, let's match that. Like, that's the only thing I can really, really like.
I'm sorry to disagree with you so early on, but. But this whole Vic, poor Gretchen, she was bullied by Tamara, so she put walls up. No, I can't. I can't with that. She was bullied by Tamara, but everybody's bullied by Tamara. They still survive. And the walls up weren't the problem. The Slade was the problem. The Slade of it all was the problem.
Slade, 100%.
She got with Slade and then became like everything was a fake, you know, like a helicopter landing on a roof and writing the song. I mean, all of that got to be really in the shots. He started calling the shots.
Clearly like he, cause Slade is like very intentional about his image. And that's why he's always been unpleasant to watch. Cause you never feel like it's authentic. He's just annoying. And I think that he did start to really, um, uh, I think he did start to really, really impact how she, like how she presents herself. I think it was a combination. I think that she was so burned by Tamara.
And then this guy came into her life and I was like, this is actually how you got to go forward with the show. And then she just sort of, you know, she became really weird.
Yeah. It's the only way. And that was before influencing was like a thing, right?
All I know, yes, and all I know is that, like, these days, just Gretchen, the way she just, like, airbrushes the fuck out of her face. You know, like, I'm all for airbrushing your face. Do some touch-ups, add some filters. But it is literally, like, it's like looking through frosted glass with eyeballs. It's strange.
You know, she gets a lot of crap for airbrushing her child. You know, she's one of those who, like... Tries to take wrinkles off of a two-year-old or whatever that baby is, however old that child is. But she, I'm sorry, I got confused. I'm reading comments at the same time, so I'm sorry. But she started getting into a lot of trouble for airbrushing the child.
Let me just say, you know, I know that people find that disgusting. Like, how could you do that? could you give a child these horrible feelings about themselves? And then I wish we had that in the eighties. Cause I could have used it. I mean the shit, the pictures my mother posts now or has now around her house are just hideous. I could have used some airbrushing.
I mean, she would have had me looking like a little stick figure. I never would have been in the Dillard's Husky fashion show. I would have been in the Dillard's thin fashion show. It's like, we'll fix it in post. We'll fix it in post. All right. It's bringing the chubby kid. We'll make him look like a stick figure. Later.
So, Gretchen, so she is back in the mix.
Yeah, I saw a... I told you this already, but I saw a post of hers, and she was driving, and her kid was in the back in her little car seat. And she's cute. She's like a little... I don't want to say JonBenet because that's like such a tragic story, but like one of those toddlers and tiara kids, you know, like really made up, like in my mind, like full face of makeup.
I'm sure she didn't have a full face of makeup. But in my mind, it's like full face of makeup, crazy, crazy hair, sprayed hair and all this sitting in the car seat.
And Gretchen's like, oh, well, what is what are we living for today, honey? And her kids like Jesus. And she goes, Jesus.
And she hashtagged it like hashtag Jesus. Hashtag living for Jesus. It's just like, wow. I think Jesus just thank you for all the followers. You know what I mean? Because he doesn't have enough. Jesus is like, I'm already the number one person on Instagram. I've been beating Selena Gomez for years. And now I need Gretchen. Thanks, Gretchen. Thirsty.
I would just like to think Jesus took that moment to thank Gretchen for being a thirsty ass.
probably did um i think it's important i think it's important to note by the way that gretchen is only going to be a friend of which i think is really like that's an important distinction and it's also helpful because like if she were not friend of that would be like a full like a full gretchen you know housewife moment would be hard but as a friend of it means that hopefully that slade will be minimized and she'll just pop in and group dinners which which may be fine
I think it's just that if she has to bear the weight of being a housewife where we have to see scenes of her at home, you know, doing, you know, yoga with Slade or pretending to do who knows what like that, that would be that would be tough.
Yeah. And people are saying friend of who? Friend of Katie Janela. First of all, Katie is one of the first. And by the way, you know, Katie could have gone either way for me her first season. I thought she was pretty chill. I thought the whole trying to get Heather over the paparazzi was kind of stupid because it was last season anyway.
And everybody watched last season already knew that stuff about Heather. But, you know, you want to like Katie because she did have guts to stand up to, you know, to come for Heather, which I think shows some stones, you know. But this article that we've been reading, this Us Weekly article is Katie Janelle, where Gretchen Rossi stands with the RHOC cast before her return.
Everybody was kissing her butt on Instagram. Heather was like, welcome back at Gretchen Rossi. Swipe for some fun memories and some bad hair and some sitcom. She's posting like Reva pictures. But basically everyone's saying where they stand. And Katie Janela says, when you join the cast, you hear about ex-cast members. But I just want to give what I get. And I met Gretchen. She's lovely.
We became really good friends. And Jen and I hang out with her all the time. Please don't let this be my Jen and Katie counseling season. Cause Katie, I don't care that much about, but I don't want to have to like get rid of Jen in my mind.
Well, I mean, you have to imagine that Jen was hanging out with Gretchen because I mean, it just seems to just make sense. Katie is a little surprising though. I would never, I don't know. I don't know Katie very well. I just don't see her enjoying Gretchen. I would see her being just like annoyed by her, but you know, Katie also grew up, uh,
in georgia where there are a lot of like women with big blonde hair not as much as texas and so maybe like it's somehow like a nostalgia play for for and even though like definitely gretchen is not a georgian she definitely is not like doesn't doesn't play like that i'm just saying that like maybe there's something there that like um that katie may connect with in some strange way
Yeah. Well, Tamara wrote on her Instagram when she found out about Gretchen's return.
I guess it's time to dust off those friendship bracelets. My best is back. Wink. Orange. Hashtag. Hashtag. Hashtag. I was baptized. Bitch.
And then Shannon Bedore, she posted a photo together. And, you know, in 2021, it says, Gretchen expressed her support for Shannon after she had a falling out with Tamara. For goodness sakes, her best friend Shannon and her are no longer friends, Gretchen shared with us in 2021. After a while, you start to look at the common denominator and you start to go, however... Okay.
Well, who's the problem here? So, um, obviously like Gretchen still has beef with Tamara. So that's always fun. Yeah. That'll be fun to watch us to go on it.
So that was the first thing. What else happened? But we were away.
Well, another thing that happened was Spencer Pratt and Andy Cohen are sort of in like a low wattage feud at the moment. Spencer, I'm pulling up the actual article, but there was some press build because people were telling Heidi, if I remember correctly, people were telling Heidi, you should go and watch Happens Live.
And then Spencer's like, why would we go on Watch What Happens Live when Andy Cohen called Heidi trash? Something along those lines. Okay, the specific tweet is, oh yeah, the person who said he would rather scratch his eyes out than watch my wife. Hard pass. Hello. Who hasn't said that? Okay, listen, if you were alive in the year 2006 or 2007, we all said that about Heidi. So just relax.
Yeah, calm down over there. He was encouraging people to stream his wife's music, and it took off on TikTok with celebrities like Julia Fox and Emily something posting videos to the audio. And they've soared in popularity recently. But Pratt is not too happy with Cohen. Pratt was quick to say no in response to a user on X.
The person who said he would rather scratch his eyes out than watch my wife hard pass, Pratt wrote. Another ex-user then wrote back to Pratt, urging him to give Cohen a second chance. It was Lisa Vanderpump. She's like, please give Andy a second chance. And he's like, LOL, yeah, so lucky the guy that bashes my wife gonna be so lucky to sit with him. Rather sit in my burned house rubble, he shared.
Some of the history of this is that in 2023, Heidi went on the record saying Andy's preconceived notions have held back her potential as a housewife. Heidi reminded her audience that Andy made a statement a while ago that he would never want me as a real housewife. Also, Andy said Heidi wasn't for the franchise. Well, Heidi, that's you just have to deal with that.
OK, because you're not you're not a real housewife. You're not real housewife worthy just because you're kids and you're a housewife doesn't mean you're real housewife worthy. OK, we already have Emily and Gina. We don't need Heidi to be in the.
I was going to say, if Emily and Gina are housewife worthy, why not Heidi Montag? I mean, maybe not Beverly Hills, but she's definitely OC worthy. I say I say bring Heidi Montag on. I want to see what she's doing. I haven't seen her in ages.
If Heidi were smart, she would have moved to Manhattan and tried to get onto Summer House. Maybe she would have had something there. Although, again, she has kids. So I don't really know. Southern Charm may have been a play for her, but she's not going to be able to hang on Beverly Hills. She's just not Beverly Hills quality. And Sutton will destroy her. O.C. Yeah, I mean, she definitely has O.C.
qualities to her.
I think she's also still too young. She's not too young. She's a little younger than us.
I know, but let's see. We're all that age. Okay, so Heidi Montag. I could be a seasoned Real Housewife. What do you think of that? Okay, how about this? Does anyone want to just deal with something I'm about to say? Is everyone ready to process this? Because I'm about to say something.
I don't know. I need a hint. You can't just say something. I need to know a hint of the trigger.
Okay, we're all going to virtually hold our hands. Okay, everyone in the chat, everyone let's hold hands. Heidi Montag is older than Aaron Leachie. That's just so wild to me. That is crazy. How is Heidi Montag older than Aaron from Real Housewives of New York? How old is she? Heidi is 38. And we knew that she was in late 30s, but it's just weird that Erin is 37.
I mean, there's so many people that are older than Erin, like Sheena, Dodie. But just Erin, her entire vibe is significantly older, and all of them, their vibe is significantly younger. It's just a strange world.
Yeah. Well, I brought up another article that supposedly Andy dredges up another article or another fight about it, but I don't see any Cohen. He just says, by the way, there were things that we said and did on TV 14 years ago that we wouldn't do now. It was just a different universe. But, you know, I'm not trying to justify it, you know, because he had apologized and he apologized, I guess.
So I wonder what I wonder what it was, things that happened 14 years ago.
That's when he called her trash. So Spencer's mad about something from 14 years ago. No, that's why you need to go on The Real Housewives. You'll have so many new things to be upset about. You know, being on Bravo, that'll give you a whole new slew of shit to be mad about.
Come on back, baby. It's also really hard to jump from like the Viacom ecosystem to the Comcast ecosystem. And like at the heart of it. Spencer and Heidi, they're MTV kids. You just can't go from MTV to Bravo. It's just a different world.
I think we're just going to have to agree to disagree on this because OC needs her. That's there. I said it. And their house burned down, which is completely tragic, but sometimes... Life works in mysterious ways. Maybe they can move to Orange County now. You know, they're looking. So they move there and be on OC. I'm for it. I think Heidi would be great.
And I love that whole season where everyone kind of turned on Heidi and then Heidi didn't stand for it. And then Spencer told everybody off. I mean, I think they're perfect housewives people. Spencer would be one of the housewives.
So here's my thing. The Hills was such a low-key show where, I mean, the biggest spat that ever happened on The Hills was like, I know what you did. I know what you are. You know what you did. I want to forgive you and I want to forget you. I remember at the time, it was like, oh my God. Heidi did not hang out with LC. I can't believe Heidi did that. It's like, oh my God.
Because the show is so subtle that anytime there was any sort of ripple or whatever, you just felt it. But that vibe, I don't know if it's going to work as well. I don't know if Heidi is up to snuff for even OC. Although, It would be fun to see Shannon Bedore getting annoyed by Heidi, and it would be great to see Heather Dubrow take Heidi down a peg or two. So, you know, you may be onto something.
I don't see Heidi taking down Heather Dubrow.
Down a peg or two. I didn't say take her down. I said down a peg or two.
I don't even know how that could happen. I mean, sure. Now at this point, I'm curious, so maybe it'll be interesting to see how that works, but I don't know. I don't know.
Okay, so we'll agree to just miss them in our own ways. How about that? Well, what about Salt Lake City? Anyway, so who cares? It's not like it's even a real thing. We're talking about a comment from 14 years ago for half an hour because we're us, but it's not even a real thing that happened. You know, it's just, I know Spencer made some dumb tweet about it.
So who even cares for now for now, but let's put it out into the universe and hope that the conversation has even started because those kids deserve a chance. That's what I say was something somewhere.
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So Karen Huger was supposed to be sentenced, I think, today. Today or yesterday. And she went to rehab, as we all know. And she got new lawyers so they could move her sentencing. Now, they didn't move it that far up. They just moved it to the end of the month. But it was kind of a tricky move on her part. And she's mad.
And now it looks like on the reunion, people are going to be claiming that she had someone else in her car, right? driving like a boyfriend or something. And she'd said, I think in the video, like, Ray, it wasn't me. It was the security you hired for me. So she's kind of blaming Ray. But I guess she's saying that they hit a tree and then somebody ran away from the tree.
And they're like, was she fucking the guy who ran away from there? We'll have to wait for the reunion to hear all of these accusations. But it'll be interesting if she brings any of this stuff up in court, because that's crazy.
Yeah, if there happened to be another person who fled, it's like a... That's like a... That's like Bonfire of the Vanities right there. You're with your side piece, and the side piece causes an accident, but you don't want to unravel the marriage, so you take the hit to protect your infidelity. I love it.
Well, now that you say that, by the way, Melanie Griffith, Real Housewives, bring it.
Oh, now that... I support that. Melanie Griffith on Beverly Hills would be wonderful.
And Don Johnson just trying to hide from the cameras all the time. And God knows what he'll be caught doing.
Dakota Johnson showing up and being boring.
Dakota Johnson?
She's so pretty. She is really pretty. And she did take down Ellen DeGeneres, which who would have thought that it was going to be Dakota Johnson to land the death blow? Yeah.
She came for Ellen DeGeneres, so don't count her out.
Yeah. I don't know. Why am I so mean to Dakota Johnson? I like you, Dakota Johnson. I take it all back. You've done great work.
No, don't take it back. It doesn't count. You have to keep it. Stick to your guns.
Dakota, you're boring.
Come for Dakota.
Dakota, you're boring and you're not worth, you're not, you're not like real housewives worthy. However, your mother is. So tell her to do it.
Like that's Dakota's dream. I think Dakota's doing kind of bigger things, I guess. So she doesn't care. There I stand for Dakota as Dakota's new friend. Dakota. Yeah. As a Dakota. Apologies. Ben Manselger hates Dakota.
Dakota's fanning.
And he also hates Dakota fanning. Just spread it, everybody.
Well, I didn't talk about someone who should not be in the Real Housewives. I want to say, though, going back to the Heidi thing, I had mentioned it. I wasn't going to go back to it. But now that we're back on this topic, Heidi Montag, I think, would be actually very good on Salt Lake City. She is originally from Denver or from Colorado. So she's already from that time zone.
And I think that she and Whitney, that seems like I can imagine it. I see her in that mix.
Yeah. Yeah. Okay, I will not do that because I don't want to destroy that cast. I think that cast is perfect as it is. So I'm not going to wish anybody on or off of that cast.
Bring them all back. By the way, someone has said something slanderous in the comments, which says, Ben hates all Dakotas, including North and South. I don't hate. I do not hate North and South Dakota. I actually would love to go there. I hate North Dakota. Could you imagine? Like, I hate North and South Dakota, guys. I would love to go to either of the Dakotas. Okay, let's go. Let's do it.
You only listen one life. You only have one life. It's never too late to go to North Dakota. My great aunt Georgette was from North Dakota. And I always said, I want to go visit where you're from. You know, it's just something you say while you're playing, you know, with your Lebanese aunties. And she was like, no, you don't, honey. She's like, honey, no, you don't want to go there.
It's too cold for you. So that's why I've never gone.
Well, I would be happy to see Mount Rushmore. Mount Rushmore is in South Dakota, though, right? It's not in North.
Girl, I don't know. I talk about Bravo. I ain't talking about no mounts.
Amanda in the comments. I know where Mount Rushmore is. Amanda in the comments has a very strong position. She says, merge the Dakotas with an exclamation point. Finally, a political message we can all get behind. Bring them all together. That way it's much easier to hit the 50 states.
Yeah, and the actresses, like Dakota, Fanning, Johnson. All the Dakotas. Start putting them all in the same thing. They've probably both got Tom Cruise trauma stories. I mean, just put them all together.
A Frank in Dakota. A Frank in Dakota. I love it.
Okay, so let's see. What else is happening over here? I'm going back. The lesbian comment about Kyle Richards. Dun, dun, dun. This, you know, going through all the links because I basically to gather links, I go to the Real Housewives discussion Reddit and I just steal links from them because they're so good at compiling them all over the two weeks.
And there were so many articles about Kyle, Kyle, lesbian rumors, Kyle, lesbian rumors, Kyle. And, you know, it's Kyle spreading all of this to all of the blogs. Kyle, who's so sick of being being talked about as being a lesbian. One article I found kind of interesting was that the cast supposedly and this just comes from a source, just a source, guys. Who knows who it is? Probably Kim.
It's probably Kim. But the source is that the cast doesn't even believe that Kyle's a lesbian anyway. They think that she's just using it for attention, which I think is what a lot of the audience believes, too. But it's nice to hear the cast jumping on that, too. What what do you think? Do you think our whole thing with Morgan is fake?
Um, I am going to say, uh, I think that she enjoyed the titillation and of it all. And I think she enjoyed the attention. She – no, I do think that – I think that she had like a girl crush on Morgan. And I thought – I think it was like cool to her that there was like this cool lesbian that was like into her and everything. Whether or not Kyle is a lesbian – I'm not, I'm not sure.
I mean, you know, when at the, at the first episode of the season, when she had that like leather and denim party or whatever, I mean, it was definitely giving like some lesbian vibes, but now I don't know. I can also see Kyle just being like really into the fact that she's like, this is so cool. I've got like someone young who's like into me who thinks I look cool. So who knows?
Well, this is coming up today because TMZ caught Garcelle at the airport because Garcelle had her first granddaughter. So congratulations, Garcelle. So she was traveling around, I guess, visiting or whatever.
And they caught her at the airport and they said, Garcelle, Garcelle, Garcelle, do you apologize to Kyle for saying that she should just be happy being a lesbian if she's a lesbian?
And Garcelle gave a very definite yes. No, as her answer. She said, no, I was just saying, you know, that's what she wants to do. Not saying she is or she isn't. Just if that's what she wants. I was trying to be supportive. And I won't say I'm sorry because Kyle still hasn't apologized for calling me an asshole on the after show. So there you go.
Yeah, there we go. So the ongoing simmering tensions between Garcelle and Kyle continue on, etc. Countess Luann's story. Here we go. I'm pulling it up with Tilda Swinton.
I just wanted to give you something because I know you're Countess Luann.
You love your Countess. I really do. Threw back a little bone in the links today. And I did see this in passing over the last week. I was like, what? Tilda Swinton, Countess Luan? The headline says it all. Countess Luan. Tilda Swinton told me, darling, I love what you do. I guarantee Tilda Swinton had no idea who Countess Luan was.
She was just like, oh, wow, it's a lady in a bejeweled conductor's hat. She was a waiter at the cabaret restaurant.
She was like, I love the drink that you brought me, darling.
It was just Fraser from below deck. She's like, wow. Tilda Swinton not only said she loved what I do, she asked me if I wanted a cocktail. How kind of her.
What's the difference with the Countess Cabaret compared to your last UK shows? She says, I've changed it with the Countess Cabaret. It's all new. I'll be performing all of my hit songs that my fans love. I'll be covering David Bowie this time around. Pink.
This woman has heels of steel. I swear to God. Luann's just going to dangle from the roof, the ceiling of every venue now. Whoa.
I'll be covering a little Pavrotti, a little... You know, Sarah Vaughan, speaking of the best singers in the world. Is it? It's Pavarotti, right? God damn it. That's another thing. I was just talking today about Housewives mess up my vocabulary by using the wrong words. And then I think they're real words forever. And Pavarotti, Pavarotti is one of them. Traitors.
So now I keep thinking Pavarotti is Pavarotti.
the ghost of paparazzi is in the turret um so luanne says that swinton approached her after a london performance and said darling i love what you do you spread so much joy and then she extended an invitation to her scottish estate yeah i did go it was wonderful she went to tilda swinton's scottish estate what was that like This did not happen. Luann is on drugs. This is crazy. No way.
This is a hallucination. I'm telling you right now.
You think she's lying about Tilda?
No, it's just it's so wild. My brain just won't accept it. That Zilda Swinton went to a Countess Luanne show and then said, come to my estate. And then Luanne went to the estate. I need to see a photo. Photos or it never happened.
Yeah. Your show seemed to attract quite a diverse audience, Luanne. Well, you know, there's women in sparkly outfits, older women in sparkly outfits, younger women in sparkly outfits, gays in sparkly outfits. It really is a United Colors of Benetton ad in there. Lots of ladies in sparkly outfits. Yeah.
You know, you lived in Europe before. Does that make these tours feel special? Oh, yes. Well, I miss Europe. You know, I lived in Switzerland and France for over a decade. And the UK. I'm looking forward to fish and chips and all those other crazy things they eat out there. And in Ireland, to Guinness and whatever they pour that dark thing into the glass. What is it called? Whatever.
And I have friends in the UK, you know, you know. William and Kate and all of them. So I'm looking forward to seeing them. I love people. I love that they love to party. And I love that they love the housewives. And most of all, I love... Well, I just love all British men. What can I say? I plan to fuck around a lot in London.
They're like, wow, why does your music connect so well with audience? Well, you know, I was on the front lines there when I realized that Basically, people are hard of hearing. It's very difficult when you feel so alone and you're hard of hearing. But to find so many people with no tone really touches me, Andy. Thank you very much. This isn't Andy. This is Attitude Magazine.
Whatever, Andy Magazine. Thank you. Thank you all for coming to this interview. Thank you so much.
And for those who want to see me doing a duet with Mr. Bean, I will be at Glasgow, Manchester, Belfast, Dublin, Bristol, and just all sorts of British places. If there's a sheep, I'll be there. I'll be there.
That was Michael Jackson, everybody. So the next story, this one is probably not cool to talk about, but... I have to talk about it because I'm really curious. And it's Brandi Glanville undergoes four biopsies by Terry Dubrow to figure out the cause of her facial disfigurement. And, of course, you know she's doing it on camera because it's botched.
And she said that Dubrow removed small samples of tissue from her face to determine the cause of her health issues. And so she got four biopsies from her face and neck. And they don't know. They don't know yet what it is. But I'll be telling you this. That's going to be the highest rated episode of Botched I've ever watched because there'll be plus one people watching it. Me, me.
I want to know what it is. Are they worms? What are they? She said they're moving around her face. Do you think she's just tripping?
I don't know. It's crazy. Because I do remember when Terry Dubrow... Remember, we talked about this a few months ago. That he stepped outside. He was like, oh, hello, TMZ. Wasn't expecting you there. Well, I am ready with any questions that I may have already prepared for. Because I knew you'd be here. What's the story? What do you need to know? And he was like, she is a time bomb.
She needs to be taking care of stat. So it's good that he's finally taking care of it. But now they've got to get to the bottom of it. It's scary. I mean, like... The idea that something is crawling around in her face is so disturbing. And I don't know how they're also not able to destroy it already. Can't they just shoot it with poison? Just shoot it. Just shoot it. Just shoot it.
You have to have a very, very good aim. Just slap it out of there.
Glanville spent over $70,000 trying to find a resolution, with some doctors suggesting she had a parasite that jumps around her face, while others believed it was stress-induced angioedema. If there were worms jumping around your face, don't you think a doctor would be able to say, I mean, do they run that fast? Are they like running under the skin? Catch the worms. How is this so confusing?
I don't understand. I think it's filler.
And wasn't this it was that she had gone out and gotten like drinks with someone. Where did this all start again? What was the back? Do you remember what that backstory was? Like she went out with Phaedra maybe?
Well, she was on the set. She's saying, of course, because she wants to blame Bravo for everything because she was still trying to sue them at that time. So she was like, you know, you try to do something. And then not only is my life ruined, this also happened, suggesting that she got this in Thailand when she was doing the Real Housewives girl trip in Thailand.
And it was maybe something she ate. And so Bravo probably poisoned her and gave her worms in her face. And then the other housewives were like, well, we just have regular filler. So I'm not sure what she's talking about. We all ate the same chicken. So I think that was out. I think that one's out.
Gosh, it is such a strange and creepy story. I do want it resolved for her sake, because it must be incredibly unsettling to know that there's something in your face that is just burrowing around and like... Actively botching you. But it's the... Botch, the active version.
We're chasing worms. Okay, yeah, that's depressing. Good luck, though, to Brandy. You know, nobody deserves whatever the fuck's going on over there. Okay, so now... One of the biggest pieces of Goss that's been going around the past week or so started after the last reunion for Real Housewives of New York City, which was quite explosive.
Lots of pajamas, lots of sequins, sequined bathrobes or whatever the hell was going on on that one. But Bravo Bad Girl on Twitter posted... I think it was on Twitter. I don't know. I'm assuming. But here's what it says. Blind item. Talk is getting louder that one of the New York housewives is harboring a huge secret that contradicts everything she's ever told us.
And if this comes out, it will be the most explosive housewife scandals ever. And trust, she doesn't need any more pad publicity these days. Now... That's a blind item. Who knows? You know, blind items can be a lot of different things. They can be a lot of different people. But people are, of course, zeroing right in on Brynn and just making insane guesses. What do you think?
Well, it's got to be about Brynn because no one else has bad press. The press doesn't generally care about the people on this show. But Brynn has bad press. Really, really bad press. If this comes out, it will be the most explosive Housewives scandal ever. I don't know. I can't imagine anything that explosive from Brynn. If the news is that, okay, Brynn...
it like was a sugar mama or something like that like i don't know that's not that explosive right not sugar mama but sugar baby yeah i don't know what could be explosive like it's hard for me to think of the term explosive with with new roni but um i think it would definitely have to do based on what they're how they set it up i have to assume bravo bad girl is talking about brin
You know, it's especially hard because it's Real Housewives of New York. And when you say explosive, you know, we try not to compare to the old cast, but they had that whole explosive diarrhea story on the Cartagena boat. You remember? Yeah. That was like a real part of the plot.
So you can't say Real Housewives of New York and explosive and get me to care because I've already been so disgusted by that last episode. So I don't really know what it could be about with Brynn that would shock me. But the guesses are crazy. And just reading them all, I've been obsessively reading these threads. You know, I'm like, oh, my God.
And people let me just say people have a very low opinion of Brynn for the most part with some of these guesses. I'm like, damn. But someone posted today, do you think this is it? Because there was an article in Interview Magazine, and it's about the Armory's Young Collectors Night in New York City. Thursday, 8.22 p.m., January 30th, 2025, Uptown.
It's safe to say there were as many characters as unique wares on display last Thursday night at the Park Avenue Armory. Art lovers and some stragglers looking for an open bar ventured uptown for the winter show's Young Collectors Night to comb through the collections and people watch. Bryn Whitfield of the Real Housewives of New York entered on the arm of a silver fox. And that was it.
But people were like, do you think this is it? Do you think she's really dating an old person?
That's the scandal that will explode, break the Internet. Bryn Woodfield dating an older man. I mean, people on Reddit, what I'm seeing here on the link is like most people are guessing that she lied about her childhood, which would be wild.
I think honestly, she's really married. I saw that one a lot. Like she's really married and like has family or something. That would that would be crazy.
yeah i that like the worst like the worst yeah it could get if she lies about her childhood that could be like there's no coming back from that i think but i don't think i don't know i believe her about her childhood i don't i don't think that's a lie But here's why you shouldn't lie, because the thing is that now you have people like us on the Internet who now question anything you say.
So like she sounds like she had a really traumatic and terrible childhood and she does have a brother to sort of back up those stories. So there's that.
But, you know, to a brother and he's not her brother at all. I mean, that's how the that's how the guesses start making me crazy. And that's why I'm not even going to read any of the guesses, because. I don't know. Then that puts us in a position of being like, well, would she do this or wouldn't she do this?
It's just pretty crazy that she's gotten herself into such a tiny box that people are even questioning her to this degree. And man, people hate her. And, you know, the other thing I question is this armory show, because if that's the opening celebrity for your article, that sounds like a sad show. They're like, wow, the glamorous winter armory collection. Enter Bryn Whitfield. I know.
Huh?
I know. The other... Were neither of the Dakotas available?
Another big piece of news that people have been talking about, and they keep on talking and talking about it, is whether or not Paige DeSorvo and Joe D'Amelio are really dating. Because that was the guy that she went and saw the football game with. And when we did Watch What Happens Live last week, Austin said on the show that they definitely, definitely are dating.
And then we heard from an old queen at the bar that they are also definitely dating with... like very, they said they had very, very strong evidence to it. But the question is, do we really believe any of this? Is this just people who just want this to happen?
I mean, I think it's, I mean, I think they're dating because she just went on vacation with him. Paige, this is, let me see, who is this? Reality blurb. Report, Paige DeSorbo and Joe D'Amelio are getting serious and vacationing in Miami as Craig Conover unfollows Summer House X after split. So Craig is unfollowed.
I mean, I don't see the problem with her dating, even if she is dating, you know, and we've already on the summer house thing. But I wish you got to talk behind the bar because their whole like, oh, you know, poor, poor Craig. And Paige was so mean to Craig. No, she wasn't. You're allowed to break up with somebody and then date somebody else.
Austin, I think was Austin suggesting there was overlap on the show.
I think he was. I think he suggested it, but he didn't outright say it. Yeah, well, you know, Austin's not going to suggest anything like that. There is an item about it on Reality Blurb. The headline says, Paige DeSorbo claps back at Austin Kroll for saying her romance with Joe D'Amelio is not a rumor on Watch Happens Live. See Summer House's stars post. So Paige was not happy with all that.
And Paige said, ah, yes, a man I haven't spoken to in six months knows exactly what I'm doing. And then she added, ugh.
but I'd like to add not a denial is the thing. And I think that that's, that's what's making people go cuckoo. Cause she didn't, they're like, didn't deny it. Didn't deny it. Frankly, I don't care. I don't care if she's fucking some guy, if they're broken up, she, she broke up with Craig and she's with some new guy. Now, I don't know. She wasn't married to the guy.
Um, but I don't know, you know, I've, I've already said kind of team page on that just because Craig seems like a total asshole to me. And I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna forget that winter house throwing his money everywhere saying he's good to, he's too rich to clean. Now you're never too rich to clean, sir. You are never too rich to clean.
Yeah, never, never too rich. Yeah, I mean. Oh, sorry. Yeah, go on.
Another Page article that came out is Page DeSorbo is freezing her eggs as security following split from Craig Conover, which is also, you know, making Craig crazy because she laughed at him when he wanted to freeze his sperm.
Sometimes we see this. I've definitely known a few people in my life, and I've seen it happen on – I feel like some of these shows, maybe I'm wrong, where people are like, yeah, I'm not interested in having a kid. I don't even want to freeze my eggs or anything. I don't want it.
And then they get out of this long-term relationship, and then the next relationship, they, boom, get pregnant right away. So like sometimes, you know, like I don't like I think that for sure when people say they don't want to have a kid, I believe them that they don't want to have a kid.
But also I think that sometimes if you if you don't see yourself truly with someone, you're also probably not very motivated to have a kid with them. I feel like I mean. Yes, I know it's generalization because people do unfortunately have killed kids with people that they don't like whatsoever. But I'm just saying that sometimes there's more to it than just like, I don't want to have kids.
And so I forget what I was, where I was even going with us. The point is, you know, yes, it might make Craig crazy. That page is, um, it's like preparing for kids, but like, maybe that's because maybe she's doing this because ultimately she just knew in the back of her head, like Craig is just not somebody I ever want to have kids with.
Yeah. And I don't know. I don't I don't really want Craig's or frozen sperm. I feel like that would hurt. You don't want to freeze Craig's brain in time like it still needs some maturing. You know what I mean? But then there's the whole thought of like whose sperm do you get? Because like, do you go for looks or brains? You know what I mean?
Because we were talking to a friend of ours the other day and they are going through the process right now, the IVF process. And they have frozen embryos and now they're picking sperm. And so I guess in a sperm bank, you actually go through the books. And our friend was like, oh, yeah, I was looking for hot people because they're so ugly. She was like, Ronnie, sperm donors are ugly.
And I was like, is that true? She goes, yeah, they're really homely. Like, I don't know what it is about dudes who donate sperm, but they're really homely. And so she said a hot guy came on the market and she'd been like obsessively looking like when you're looking for like you when you were looking for your Kia or me when I was looking for Bueller, you know, you're waiting for the perfect thing.
And she was like, and finally a hot guy came up. It was the first hot guy in month. And so I bought all the vials that were left and they were already selling out of his vials. It's like, wow. Does he have that on his LinkedIn or his, like, Instagram bio? Like, my sperm sold out in record time, bitch. And she ended up, like, doing a reverse lookup on this guy and finding out everything about him.
And I was like, well, why does that matter? Because all you care is that she's hot. She goes, well, I mean, you'd also like to possibly know if they're intelligent, you know? And I just loved that she was placing the hotness so far above the intelligence factor. And I was like, I wonder how people do pick, you know?
yeah um i mean because it's fun to because you i think that on some level people feel like okay well i can always if i'm like a really good parent i could like teach my kid to be smart like i can educate them but like hotness is hotness so i feel like on some level there's like a sense that like hotness is so feels so entwined with genetics like let me just let's see what i can do i i think i can do the nourishment you can educate a hot person but you can't like
you know, make an ugly person hotter, I guess.
Right. So I think that's probably the thinking, but you know, sometimes with a hot person, you really, the education, you can educate as much as you want, but some, some people are just hot and only hot.
Well, some, some people in the comments are asking who I'm talking about because we had a weekend in New York. I'm talking about Patricia. Patricia has been going through this.
I even, actually, I don't even, I don't know who you're talking about.
telling anybody that's okay um not only do i not know it's okay i don't like i'm not like oh my god i can't wait to find out who like froze their eggs like i literally don't care like not not saying your story was bad i'm just saying like that's just not the sort of i don't care about them when they're unfrozen i don't care about them when they're frozen just tell me when the baby arrives honestly
My first reaction when she was like, we froze our eggs, I said, that's actually so smart because they're so expensive now because of the egg shortage. And she was like, no, that's our lady eggs. And I was like, oh, yeah, I was going to ask you how you freeze eggs. I didn't know that you could freeze eggs. Literally the whole time she was talking, I was like, should I be freezing eggs?
Because it's over yet.
When is the egg shortage going to end?
When birds stop giving us crazy diseases. And you know what? Listen, I want to just go back to end this whole night with Karen. Because we've talked about Karen in the beginning. Karen warned us all. And you guys can hate on Karen. And Karen's probably going to go to jail. And she probably deserves to go to jail. And you guys can hate on her all you want.
But sometimes you have to listen to even people you don't like. And Karen warned us last season. Chickens are dirty birds there. She said it. And now she's a fucking prophet. You want to send her to prison?
Well, you know what? I'm just going to have to resort to fake eggs. So I guess I've earned myself a McRiddle.
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