Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 990 | Jase Can’t Prove He’s Not a Robot & Phil’s Reaction to Kids Operating a Band Saw
Mon, 11 Nov 2024
Jase struggles to prove to a machine that he’s not a bot, and he keeps a botanic secret from Missy every time she goes out of town. Zach points out one major flaw in the Robertson family for generations, but Al insists they’re turning it around. Jase worries that child labor laws may have been broken when he was a kid building duck calls, and the guys illustrate that maturity doesn’t have to do with how long you’ve been a church member but how your heart responds to Jesus. In this episode: Colossians 1, verses 15-21; 1 Corinthians 3, verses 15-21 -- Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: What humorous situation does Jase find himself in with technology?
I am unashamed.
What about you?
Welcome back to the Unashamed podcast. We, uh, We're still, Jace is in the duck call room. Jace, are you channeling your inner side today?
Well, I think the first time was a little weird, but I seem a little more comfortable today. I mean, it's like 20 years ago, me alone in the duck call room, because I was the first paid employee at Duck Commander. Really? You were the first one? You didn't know that? You didn't read the book? I did not know that. You were patient.
I worked there before Jace, but I was unpaid.
Oh, yeah, you did caveat that first paid.
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Chapter 2: What childhood labor experiences does Jase share?
Well, yeah, we don't want to go too far back because child labor laws might have been broken.
And so they were broken.
There's no resentment. There's no resentment.
Every time I go through the tour now, I see that bandsaw that's, they put the actual bandsaw that was out back, which was my job. I was literally 11 years old with a naked bandsaw and I, Cut many, many, many pieces of wood up. It's amazing that there was never any bad accidents.
I actually remember that speech, Al. When you had the barrel, you had to cut off the end. It was hard to hold it straight because your fingers were so close to the saw. And my hand was shaking the first time I did it. And Phil said, hey, your hand's shaking. And I was thinking, well, I can't, I'm not going to be able to stop that.
So he noticed that and he said, look, here's what's the worst thing that could happen. And so I thought, well, I could lose my finger. He said, exactly. And he said, you got another one on the other hand, just like it. You got 10 of them. I thought.
That's why Al says he struggles with compassion.
That's exactly what it is. I mean, like, if you could go back in time, you would say, but I'm just a child.
Let me ask you a question. I heard this story about Phil, and I want you to verify if this is true or not. I don't remember who the candidate was.
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Chapter 3: How does Phil's approach to injuries reflect family dynamics?
You'll be okay. They were watching Dallas. Phil said, I hate to tell you this there, Jace, but both bones are broken. He said, you see those points protruding right under your skin? He's like, that's broken bones.
Jace had it laid up on a pillow like his arm was on a pillow.
You can't blame Phil. I mean, he got it from his dad when my mom got bit by a water moccasin. He had to wait until his show was over before he took her to the hospital. And Granny was like, her leg's turning black. There's red streaks running up her leg. Something's not right here. And Paul was like, let me finish the show, and I'll run her up to the hospital. So they got it. It travels downhill.
I feel like, though, we have – that's a generational sin. I hope that maybe we're turning around a little bit. What do you think?
Well, I think we are. We talked about this previously. It's because I feel like I'm very compassionate to my progeny, but it doesn't go the other way for whatever reason.
It's just hard to... Well, you went generational sin. I don't know if I'd go that far. I think it was an effort to toughen... I mean, look, our world now is too soft. I've no doubt about that. Everybody's getting their feelings hurt and... I mean, hard work is frowned upon. And so that's why I've said this many times. People, because we're famous duck hunters, not that I aspired to be that.
It just happened. And people want to go duck hunting with us. And when they do, they're disappointed.
Yeah.
Because they're like, y'all are mean. And we aren't mean. We just, we treat men like men in that situation. We're not sugarcoating anything. We're telling other men to shut up, sit down, shoot where you are. It's very blunt. Keep your head down. Yeah, keep your head down. And, I mean, I snap at guests.
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Chapter 4: What insights do the hosts provide on generational patterns of compassion?
We've got a conduit who leaves us daily voicemails, which I think he sends them to all three of us. We're all getting them. But it's a daily update, which they're about. 12 to 15 minutes long of, of update, which is good. I mean, we get the full scope, but you have to set aside some time to listen to the whole thing.
Well, there are audio. Yeah. There are audio texts, which I don't even know how to.
I've never done an audio text and yet. That's how Dan communicates. And you're right. I'm very appreciative to get the word. I just, I find myself looking at the phone, wondering how, how long, how much longer? Cause I can't, it's not like a video where you know how long it is. So it's like. I may be here for an hour.
But today's message was encouraging, so I wanted to let you know that. We got an encouragement.
To my point of us not acting like men, what is that, 1 Corinthians 16? Act like men. It's in the Bible.
It is in the Bible.
I just had a fly come. I'm in a building in the middle of town. I mean, since I've not been here for a while, I mean, we got flies in the duck call room, which was not allowed under my watch.
That just shows you've been gone too long.
So I thought about Phil last night because I was researching what we're talking about in Colossians. And I stumbled upon a sermon and I was listening to it because they were doing a series in Colossians. Nobody I'd ever listened to before. It just...
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Chapter 5: How does the concept of fruit in the gospel relate to personal growth?
What do you mean you want to be like me?
Well, I didn't want to say a word that only less than 10 people have ever heard.
Since he's on record.
Yeah, I didn't want to sit down and say, look, I didn't want to say this. You don't have to be a pomologist to know which tree is which. Look at the fruit.
Or a botanist.
No, pomologist is the study of fruit trees.
Fruit trees. So you've got very specific type of plant here we're talking about.
So I looked at that word and I thought, I don't even know how to say this. So I had heard that you can look up on the internet and they have a pronunciation of words. So I clicked on it. So I was, I was trying to say the word, you know, there's a dude and it's on like YouTube every five seconds, he's saying pomologist, pomologist. And so I would try to say it and I was having trouble at first.
So I kept rebooting. You are your dad's son.
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Chapter 6: What challenges does Jase face while trying to pronounce a word related to trees?
But a shadow typically is what? It's behind something that's already happened. And so when you get to Colossians, the language shifts from foreshadowing when he's talking about these things to guess what? What's the word he uses? Shadow. These are a shadow of the things to come.
And I was just thinking, you know, we have to really resist any ideology, any idea, any philosophy or doctrine that would, that would distract us.
So anything that takes us away from the fulfillment being found in Christ, the reality being found in Christ, we probably need to work to get away from those kinds of ideas and work towards understanding that the Christ is the fulfillment and by extension, as part of his body.
Very interesting. I've had that same argument with a guy, and I can say this because he doesn't listen to the podcast, and for years. You're like, why doesn't he listen to the podcast? He's like, I talk to him almost every day. He's my best friend outside of family. He's like, our whole life is a podcast. I can't because he loves to argue about the temple.
But we're going in the same vein because I wanted to read this from 1 Corinthians 3 because I think you see all the components that you just said and what I think helps us understand Colossians. And I took a picture of this off the internet. I was trying to find out kind of how fertilizer works contributes to the growth process. I was just looking at plants growing.
I mean, I literally went there for hours. And the reason also is to kind of give your illustration some legs is my wife. She she she loves to have plants. The problem is she has them inside. And so, look, that was a point of contention for the first 10 years because I was like, go plant a garden. I kept trying to.
like and she's like why do you keep saying that i'm like because you you're having plants inside and if you hadn't noticed they keep dying that they would do better out there and so i'm not i don't argue with it now but she'll go out of town she'll say well you take care of my plants well you know what i do take them as a i'll take them outside the entire time she's gone and she comes back she's like boy these look wonderful they did great under your watch and
I haven't told her that secret yet. And the reason I'm saying... She doesn't listen to the podcast either.
No, because she says Jason.
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Chapter 7: What does the story about Phil and the fishing incident reveal about him?
So when you brought up that about the watermelon seed, it made me think, because I gave that same illustration one time in a Bible study, and the guy was like, well, that's just science. I mean, that's not God. It was a tough study. And I remember reading somewhere, and I dropped this line, which was a good line. I said, well, where did the colors come from? He's like, what are you talking about?
I was like, when you look at a watermelon seed, it's one thing which you would think people would say that was a supernatural occurrence because how did that big melon, this big around, come out of that little seed? With three plus colors, I mean... Where did the colors come from? That's right. Come on. Can't answer that. It's not just that it... It's like it has bells and whistles to it.
Oh, yeah? And you start reading... All these Psalms and, you know, it makes me think of that, you know, when Job, the word was he was contending with God. You know, we're supposed to, because Paul uses that reference in Colossians 1, he was contending for them, right? And Job was contending with God because he was like, why is all this happening? And God gives him a little speech.
And it's basically about that just creation itself. He's like, where were you when all these things were happening from snow melts to frozen ponds of water to all kind of things living and teeming on the ground? But, you know, I said all this made me think that about this temple and even in our homes, I thought we should be. These are greenhouses for Jesus. That's what they should be.
They're not the. end result this is where you you find this growth through and he mentions it uh in the beginning of chapter two which is where we are in colossians when he says i pray that you may be encouraged in heart i mean he's talking about as a group and united in love, well, that's kind of the greenhouse effect where think of it in your family. What's the parent's job?
You're trying to give them all these, you know, the light, the nutrients, all the things for them to grow and mature. And so why? So when they go out in the world, they're a productive member of society, right?
and you know hopefully representing christ the same thing with a church building or a temple is so when you go out in the world you through the power of jesus are turning thorn trees into apple trees this is what's supposed to be that's the beauty of it somebody told me this this week as greatest compliment that i think we've received at our church and this guy's been coming and um
trying to think I could tell you a little bit about him without this guy was, he was, I would say he, he came out of kind of the reformed movement. Uh, and I mean, his whole family is, is, I mean, I'm talking about, tell us what that is. Cause I don't know what the reform, um, this, uh, you know, kind of the rest of the reformation movement and Presbyterian, uh, world.
And, and he, he said, man, it's funny what you guys are teaching at your church. He said, um, he said, cause you didn't come out of the same tradition I came out of, but obviously he was a, you know, well-studied new, I mean, had studied all the great thinkers of the reform tradition. And he said, you guys are tapped in not to the form of the reform tradition. You're tapped in to the source.
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