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Unashamed with the Robertson Family

Ep 1095 | Rebecca St. James Opens Her Heart to Jase & Missy About Infertility & Faith in Suffering

Wed, 21 May 2025

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Rebecca St. James and her husband Cubbie open up about the heartbreak of infertility, miscarriages, and spiritual burnout—and how God brought healing and purpose through their deepest pain. Jase, Al, Lisa, and Missy connect with the couple over traumatic cruise ship ordeals and their love of living in the South. Plus, Jase’s son, Cole, asks him to officiate his upcoming wedding! In this episode: Revelation 12, verse 11; Ephesians 5, verses 25–32 “Unashamed” Episode 1095 is sponsored by: https://onekingdom.org — Donate to One Kingdom today to help share the gospel! https://bravebooks.com/unashamed — Get Missy’s book “Because You’re My Family” and Jep and Jessica’s book “Dear Valor” for free when you use code UNASHAMED! https://fastgrowingtrees.com/unashamed — Save up to half-off on select plants and when you use code UNASHAMED at checkout you’ll get an additional 15% off! https://andrewandtodd.com or call 888-888-1172 — These guys are the real deal. Get trusted mortgage guidance and expertise from someone who shares your values! Listen to Not Yet Now with Zach Dasher on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, or anywhere you get podcasts. — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Chapter 1: What are the guests' experiences with infertility?

1.853 - 4.514 Lisa

I am unashamed. What about you?

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6.696 - 13.179 Al

Welcome back to Unashamed. Jace, we have our favorite two guests on the Unashamed podcast.

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13.219 - 14.079 Jase

You better say that.

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14.139 - 16.84 Al

I mean, this is a no-doubter, no-brainer.

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17.381 - 28.426 Lisa

And to make that even more spectacular, we dropped off a hitchhiker to pick up these two guests. So, no Zach, add Zach. Lisa and Missy.

28.546 - 39.232 Jase

I mean, I feel like this is a bit of a trend because the last three times I've been here, Zach has conveniently not been here. So is it something personal?

39.352 - 41.633 Al

No, I'm going to tell you. Missy, he doesn't like you.

41.673 - 49.717 Cole

We've been meaning to tell you this for a long time. He's like, I cannot deal with Missy. Y'all are going to have to do that podcast. I'm going to give you the truth. I'm kidding.

49.737 - 52.199 Lisa

No, I'm giving you the truth for the listeners.

Chapter 2: How do Jase and Missy support each other during challenges?

182.48 - 187.184 Missy

Oh, boy. We've heard that for years. Maybe when you were 10. Oh, boy. Not now.

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188.565 - 196.831 Lisa

Yeah. I only do this because the Lord put his hand on me and said, speak. If you believe, speak.

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196.871 - 199.833 Jase

And you never looked back. Never looked back.

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199.873 - 227.19 Lisa

This is not easy for me, babe. So, look. He then says... good news, she has kidney stones. And I'm like, how can that be? Don't show that to her. So look, this is serious. We then get into a debate over what good news means. And I'm like, I'm pretty sure that you need to go reread your Bible. Good news is good. Good in Jesus.

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227.31 - 234.497 Lisa

I was like, kidney stones, not good news, but you should have phrased the question. Not as bad as it could have been.

234.597 - 247.57 Jase

Well, you're realizing he's in the middle of trauma with his wife, and you're distracting him trying to get him to explain the definition of good versus better. Like, all to make you understand more, his wife is in utter pain.

248.11 - 267.141 Lisa

I did think about that. I wasn't oblivious to that, babe, but in the moment, I was like, of all things, you can't use good news this way. Oh, goodness gracious. This is the theme of the Bible. I've come to bring you good news. I'm like, you can't make that illustration here. And look, Zach likes to argue, and we had a little argument on it.

268.271 - 279.618 Jase

Oh, my goodness. Yeah. Well, there's OK. Here's another little argument is not argument, but different perspective. When you came to tell me something last night after your middle son, Cole, called you.

279.658 - 280.498 Al

This is a daisy here.

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