Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1093 | Jase Teases His Role on ‘Duck Dynasty: The Revival’ & Pays the Price for Doing Willie a Favor
Fri, 16 May 2025
Jase recounts how doing a quick favor for Willie turned into a 10-hour filming session for “Duck Dynasty: The Revival” that wrecked his sermon prep. But the Holy Spirit still showed up! He unpacks the family themes woven through the book of Ephesians and lays out God’s eternal plan to reunite heaven and earth through Christ. With help from Al and Zach, Jase take a closer look at what the Bible actually says about heaven and hell—and why the real prize isn’t a place, but a presence. In this episode: John 8; Ephesians 6, verses 10–20; Ezekiel 28, verses 12–17; Numbers 6, verses 24–26; 2 Thessalonians 1, verses 7–10 “Unashamed” Episode 1093 is sponsored by: https://myphdweightloss.com — Find out how Al is finally losing weight! Schedule your one-on-one consultation today by visiting the website or calling 864-644-1900. https://tomorrowclubs.org/unashamed — Join this disciple-making movement by sponsoring a Tomorrow Clubs summer camp! https://meetfabric.com/unashamed — Join the thousands of parents who trust Fabric to help protect their family. https://fastgrowingtrees.com/unashamed — Save up to half-off on select plants and when you use code UNASHAMED at checkout you’ll get an additional 15% off! Listen to Not Yet Now with Zach Dasher on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, or anywhere you get podcasts. — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: What was Jase's experience filming for 'Duck Dynasty: The Revival'?
Three, two, one.
Welcome back to Unashamed. Zach just did a fake Matty countdown for us. Just hadn't quite got the melody right, Matty, but he's working on it. We got the tone right. You got the tone right. You got to get the melody right. So we were laughing because the Maddie forgot to put my clock. I can't function without a clock. This thing is timed. I am the keeper of time on the Unashamed Podcast.
I want to say this, though. Unless you put that to death in some capacity, you're going to struggle in eternity. Oh, yeah. You asked me to preach one time, Al.
Jason never stopped preaching, though.
How long did Jason go? He preached Sunday at church.
Actually, I didn't time it. There you go.
I didn't time it.
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Chapter 2: How did Jase's filming affect his sermon preparation?
Oh, I did. But it was right around the right. It felt right. It was 32 minutes. 32 minutes.
Oh, that's great. The goal was 30.
Could you not see a clock? I knew you were struggling with something, but I'm sitting in the middle. By the way, I never get to. Usually, if I'm there, I'm down front. I'm either participating in a service or I like being down front. But because it was Mother's Day, I sat back with Lisa behind Cy, which is always interesting. So I'm in the middle of the audience yesterday, which is unusual.
So I don't have any idea. I'm just John Q member. You're just one of the people. I was one of the sheep. I tried to complain to somebody, but nobody cared. So there you go. You were complaining about me? No, just in general.
I mean, 32 minutes is not long at all. I think the sweet spot for a sermon is somewhere around the 48 to 52 minutes.
Here comes the over-analysis. Paralysis by over-analysis. Now, look, if you're just joining us, let me clear up. Because some people, this may be the first time you're listening. Well, that's right. This is the first time you're listening. So we start every podcast, believe it or not, With a three, two, one. By our lovely unseen Maddie, who works behind the scenes. And is a spectacular.
She's been the best hire for Unashamed since Jace. I was trying to describe off the top of my head. She's a spectacular button pusher. She goes three, two, one, push the button. Yeah.
So look, and if you don't think that's important, Matty, that's one thing she does among many other things.
That's just what she does to get us stuck. Don't minimize the button pushing, Zach, because there are some buttons you can push on this planet that the planet would then be destroyed. Everything in it would be laid bare. So pushing buttons is important. So that was the first thing. The second thing is, if you're just joining us, I actually preached in my hometown yesterday.
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Chapter 3: What themes from Ephesians did Jase discuss?
By the way, he knew about it a month. For those of you who think, man, y'all just dropped it on him.
He knew about it. Let's just back up here now. We did a couple podcasts. We did six podcasts.
Look, I did an event the weekend before, which I did use as an illustration for this sermon. So I had Thursday and Friday off on purpose because I was like, well, I got to preach. It gives me two days. Well, my brother... Willie, hey, do me a favor. We got a little show coming out called Duck Dynasty.
Chapter 4: Why is family a central theme in Ephesians?
Here we go.
Well, look, I had done two scenes before, and I was there maybe 90 minutes. There was no... It was just like... Do your thing, whatever the subject was. Did it feel like you were getting back on a bike doing that? Well, it was just so much. There was no conflict.
When we did Duck Dynasty before, there was a certain tension between the production company and what they call us the talent, but the family. Zero of that. So I thought, oh, there's nothing to it. So I looked down, and he said, Thursday, you know, we got a scene we want you to do. And really, it wasn't a scene. It's real life, you know, and I can't talk about what it is. Right.
Which I'm wondering why because I actually haven't signed anything. I'm not under contract, which they have.
Look, since what happened. As one of the executive producers on the show, it makes me a little nervous right now.
Well, it should because let me tell you, when I tell you what happened Thursday, you need to go have a meeting after this podcast. Yeah. So I look down at the call time, and it says 10 o'clock, and it says wrap time, 1230. I was like, perfect. Same kind of deal. Of course, it was out in the woods, so I drive down there.
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Chapter 5: What was the significance of Jase's Mother's Day sermon?
And so I go out there and start writing. Well, the introduction, I look down. I got the introduction. I was like, well, that's about 40 minutes. So I backed up. And so then they're still sending me tapes. That's like a Zach sermon there. I said, do you ever get that title? And I thought, I'm having trouble bringing this together. And so I said, yeah, I got it. When a plan comes together.
Because I was inwardly thinking... Somewhere in the next 48 hours, I got to make a plan to come together. So let's name it that, via the Holy Spirit. And literally that was what they put up there, when a plan comes together.
So are you guys, so are you in Ephesians or this was the introduction?
No, this was the conclusion. Jace was doing the overview wrap-up.
Overview wrap-up of the whole book.
I had preached Ephesians 6, 10 through 20, the last sermon, and then Jace was doing the wrap-up. We try to do an overview to begin. Look, this is right out of my training. You tell what you're going to tell, you tell it, then you tell what you told. So that was that.
That's basically what it was, and I wasn't there for maybe only three or four, so it wasn't like I could listen to everybody. I just kept reading. Look, I literally kept reading Ephesians. I'd write an intro, and I'd say, nope, that one's 50 minutes. So I started over. So about Saturday morning, because I pretty much stayed up until 2 or 3 o'clock in the morning, I kept rewriting the introduction.
Yeah. And about Saturday morning at about 8, 9 o'clock, I went out to our little swing in our backyard. And I spent about six hours. And I came in because I was hungry. And Missy's like, you got your lesson done? I said, I have good news. I have the introduction. which is 32 minutes. Nope. I said, this is about 12.
So you see what I mean?
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Chapter 6: How do the concepts of heaven and hell appear in the discussion?
And look, it was crickets. Well, and what's funny is you didn't hear me because I didn't say it loud enough for you to hear me. But I took a chance, and I didn't know, but I took a chance that I knew where you were going, and I went, none. And you said, one person, I said, none. And you said, zero. I said, zero. Zero. Because when you said it, I did a quick thought in my process in my mind.
I thought, I don't know of one.
No, it's not in there. So then I knew I was going to have to take a time out because people then think, what are you saying? There's not a hell? And I was like, oh, there's a hell. I said, but it came later. And so then I read Genesis 1, 1 through 3. In the beginning, God created man. the heavens and the earth. And I said, there's no mention of hell here. And so everybody's looking.
I said, it came later. Pretty quick. Yeah. Because then you have the evil one arrive on the scene. But then I did an illustration that I thought very carefully about how to do. And this was all coming from Ephesians 1 and verse 4, the last two words where it says, he chose us in him before the creation of the world. So I went back to the creation of the world in Genesis 1.
And those two little words are, In love, he predestined us to be adopted as his sons. And so I made an illustration saying that. Look, it's not unlike God-conscious people who are believers. When they have a child, even though there's pain involved in giving birth to the child, and even though the child seems like he's in pain, they come out crying.
I was like, there's no anger there from God-conscious people. You know, of looking at their baby. And then I said this as a joke, and all the women, if you notice, laughed. I said, the anger comes later. And they all laughed. And I was like, and the only reason you're angry is because you love them. They're not doing what they're supposed to be doing. They're like, what now?
So, Al, as we get older, the family continues to grow. Kids, grandkids, you're in the grandkid phase now, correct?
Yeah. And, you know, I will say this, and you never know until you get there. You begin to think about future and legacy when your grandkids start to grow up. There's no doubt about it.
Yeah, I can't overstate the importance of protecting your family's future with life insurance. We think we're doing the right things to plan our family's future, savings accounts, cutting back spending, college funds, all the things. Well, what happens if the unexpected happens and you're no longer in the picture?
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Chapter 7: What role does the Holy Spirit play in Jase's sermon and message?
Chapter 8: How can listeners support Tomorrow Clubs and the camp initiative?
And so that was the concept. And I was like, the only way you can kind of see that, because the Old Testament is filled with God being angry and judging. Because why? They're not doing what they're supposed to be doing. And so that's kind of how I went that route, which led to me making the practical application. of it's more important about who you're with than where we're going.
And I was like, that's what the Bible teaches. And so I used that as an illustration, the thief on the cross, which I've done in a podcast before. I heard it from someone else, but it was a very good point. When he said, today you'll be with me in paradise, Well, all the Bible scholars out there immediately and all the curious Christians are like, oh, what's his paradigm? Let's break this down.
Let me find some other verses to see. And I said very loudly. Is this in between? Is this the final stop? I got loud on this point, I remember. And I was like, you missed the whole point of what he said. He said, you'll be with me. That was his point. All right. And so just think of all the times Paul says.
Remember when he has this argument with himself and he's like, you know, I'm in a quandary about being here on earth or in the body or at home with the Lord. He constantly says that. And even this picture in Revelation 21, it's more about the Lord being the light and he is the temple. And so it's the same concept. I said, look, I'm not making a play about, you know, places.
I'm just saying the Bible stresses places. He's getting his family back. And I had an illustration that I didn't do, but it's just like me and my wife. I mean, I've done this multiple times because she loves to travel. I was like, babe, I think we need to take a trip. She's like, I'm in. She's not saying where are we going. The idea of me and her going somewhere is the emphasis.
The destination is secondary. Yeah.
Yeah, and I think Paul makes this point when he talks about the concept of hell in 2 Thessalonians 1. Listen to how he describes it to your point, Jace. He says that when the Lord returns and is revealed from heaven with his mighty angels in flaming fire, So whatever the scene here is, it's kind of scary. Well, what is that?
away from the presence of the lord and from the glory of his might oh yeah when he comes on that day to be glorified in his saints and to be marveled at among all those who have believed because our testimony to you was believed so when you think about it like the two different people groups in the set at the second coming one group is going to be shut out from the presence of the lord which seems to be the description of hell so it's
the emphasis is not on the place. The emphasis is on shut out from the presence of the Lord. The other side, which means they won't be able to do what the saints are going to do, which it says the saints are going to be on that day marveling at Jesus. They will marvel at the glory of Jesus. So the prize is that you're in his presence and you get to marvel at him.
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