Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1078 | Jase & Jep Get Hammered by Bad News & the Guys Own Their ‘Old Man’ Struggles
Mon, 21 Apr 2025
Jase and Jep recount a brutal day of treasure hunting that went from bad to worse as bad news started rolling in. After a rough week, the guys regroup and laugh about their "old man struggles" and feeling like they’re falling apart. Jase finds a surprising opportunity when a fast-food mishap opens the door to an unexpected gospel conversation. The guys challenge Christians to embrace the mission of reaching just one person for Jesus, unpack the true meaning of being made in God's image, and explore how Peter’s first sermon connected the ancient promises to a kingdom already breaking through. In this episode: John 6; Matthew 28, verses 28-30; Colossians 3, verse 10; Isaiah 54; Isaiah 55, verses 1-5; Psalm 22, verse 27 “Unashamed” Episode 1078 is sponsored by: https://fastgrowingtrees.com/unashamed — Save up to half-off on select plants and when you use code UNASHAMED at checkout you’ll get an additional 15% off! https://tomorrowclubs.org/unashamed — Bring hope to kids in some of the darkest corners of the world. Help us hit our goal of 1,200 new Tomorrow Clubs members this month! https://cozyearth.com/unashamed — Get 40% off sheets, towels, and more when you use our link or use code UNASHAMED! Abide — Get 25% off a premium subscription, for a limited time only, when you text “unashamed” to 22433! Listen to Not Yet Now with Zach Dasher on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, or anywhere you get podcasts. — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: What struggles are the guys facing and how do they deal with them?
I am unashamed. What about you? Welcome back to Unashamed. Off camera, before we got started here today, we were trying to ascertain Zach's mood today. Because you and I both noticed he was a bit, what would you call it?
Well, I called it sad. Missy asked me how the podcast went, our last podcast. And I said, well, Al was coughing a lot because you had some.
I can't believe you accused me of coughing. You cleared your throat so many times. We'll have to ask Matty, who had the most notes on coughs, me or Jason, in the last podcast? Matty, compute that and let me know later. But you sounded in a worse condition. I am in a bad condition, I will say.
This spring has been killing me, and I went to West Texas, and man, was that a serious... Al, you have a leaky eye.
I noticed it last time I was with you.
Oh, it's terrible. I mean, it's... Zach, I'm leaking everywhere. You know, I realize that I am the elder statesman now of this little operation now that Dad's not with us anymore on the podcast. And so, yeah, I'm leaking out of the eyes, out of the nose, other areas I can't talk about. But it's bad. I'm an elder statesman.
It's a common redneck status to have the leaky eye. It's also common to have, with a lot of my friends, their eyes can look in directions that normal people can't. I'm serious. As in not in the same direction at the same time. Yeah, it's like, boy. And they're proud of it. I mean, it's like, well, I can see a deer down my left flank and one at the right flank.
You know what's confusing, Jase? If you did in the old days when we used to do a lot of small groups, you know, you kind of maybe close out in a prayer circle and you get a couple of those guys in the same circle. And having a conversation, you can't tell who's talking to whom. I mean, it's like every eye is rolling around. Is he talking to me? Is he talking to the guy across?
Yeah, that's right. Phil used to have the old indirectional dialogue. Remember, he would always look at someone else and share Jesus with a person that he wasn't looking at.
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Chapter 2: What unexpected opportunity did Jase encounter during a fast-food mishap?
So she said, I need your credit card. And she's like, just tap it. But I have a credit card that doesn't tap. You're a non-tapper? Yeah. Well, the card won't tap. I tap it, and it has the place where you tap it, but it never registers. So I was in the course of saving time. I said, this is not a tapper. I can't tap on the glass. I have to go all in.
Is your card, the card has a tapper that doesn't work, or is it not a tapping card? It's a tapping card.
Yeah, it's a tapping card that doesn't work. But the tappers broke on it. And she said, oh, I get it. So she was familiar with this. So then you insert the card. Yeah. And okay, whatever it was, the total amount, yep, you're good to go. And I said, yep, my card. I said, it's a lot like following Jesus. You can't tap on the glass. You got to go all in. She was looking at me dumbfounded.
I said, think about that. I'm gone. Now, you put a pebble in the shoe there. Yeah. So walk on that pebble for a while. So next station, there's a guy has a name tag, Joseph. And so he's getting all my stuff, you know, and I was like, man, what a name. And he's like, what's that? I said, Joseph. I said, great story in the Bible. Your parents named you well. And he's like, look, kid you not.
He said, what's it about? I said, oh, you need to read that. Look it up. I said, when there's chaos in the world and it's just looking bad, I was like, God raised up a man named Joseph. Good name. He's like, well, I think I will. I said, you do that. You'll wind up with Jesus.
That's the silver lining. What was it? Make one? Everybody make one? What was the Tyson line? Everyone reach one. Everyone reach one. Which if everybody did that, it would change. I mean, the world would be just completely changed overnight. But I'm reminded of the verse that the harvest is plenty, but the workers are few.
I've never found it difficult to find people who are receptive to hear about the king. But for some reason, we're just afraid or too busy.
I mean, I think we're created in the image of God, and we use that as a noun only just to base all these arguments on. But that is an active verb. We were created to image God, to be an imager, which is why that I think the new creation, what it's all about is because I'll give you a verse to kind of help my argument here.
Isn't that Colossians 3 where it says, I mean, I absolutely love this verse. I know where it is on the page. Isn't that Colossians 3?
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Chapter 3: How does the concept of 'Everyone Reach One' impact Christians?
And I love the idea kind of at its core, because we tend to think sometimes, and the Jews certainly felt this way in Jesus' day, that there was something special about them. And just like sometimes we think that in the modern day, there's something special about us, but it's really not. It's God's love for us. Zach, you'll love this. C.S. Lewis had a great quote.
It said, his compulsion, talking about God's, is our liberation.
Hmm.
The idea that it rests in the love of God for his creation and humanity. And it's beyond one particular group of people or one particular nation or all the things that we've looked at in the past. I mean, there's no doubt Israel carried the seed line of Messiah. So we take note of that. But at the same time, it's available for all of man. He created all of us.
And when you get to Isaiah 53, that becomes the heart of it. So, Jase, I think you were going to read some out of Isaiah because he has that one little quote, but that entire text, you know, starting with 40, as you mentioned before, but really it zeroes in to 53. It gives you that picture of this suffering Messiah, right? And then he gets into 54.
Well, then he says, he starts off talking about seeing, now this is, you know, it's a tough read, so. maybe from culture or translating into the Hebrew, from Hebrew to English. But he starts talking about in 54, seeing barren woman, you who never bore a child, burst into song, shout for joy. You who were in labor because more are the children of the desolate woman than of her children.
who has a husband, says the Lord. And you're like, what is he talking about? Well, he kind of explains it. Look at verse 5. For your maker, there it is, for your maker is your husband. So this is one of the times that you can go back and kind of see the foundational building blocks for us ultimately being the bride of Christ. Right. Because he's referring... to Israel in this way.
And that's why when you see in the Old Testament, you know, remember when, I think it's Malachi, it says, he starts talking about why God hates divorce. But he actually, him and Israel, got divorced. I mean, can I say that blanket statement? Yeah. Because he said it, so he did good. Well, yeah, I mean, well, I'm not trying to offend anybody. I'm just saying because Israel was unfaithful.
And I mean, that's really what it's about. But despite that and God being angry about it and pronouncing and performing judgment in various ways, he actually also extended mercy for future generations by keeping the hope going through picking one to pick up the torch to eventually bring Jesus.
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Chapter 4: What does it mean to be made in God's image?
Now, let me read Isaiah 55.1 again. Come all who are thirsty, come the waters, and you who have no money, come buy and eat. And you who have no money, come buy and eat. Sounds familiar. Yeah. For you that are really studying John 6, that is a moment. My lovely wife, Missy, got all of us the cozy earth pajamas, which makes sense.
I mean, if you're going to be on the earth, you need to relish the times that are spent in cozy attire.
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Zach, you were at my house and I walked in the living room and you had your cozy earth pajamas and so did I. I was like, look, we're matching. We should have taken a picture.
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When I read that, I thought, oh, my goodness. They were familiar with what he was saying. They just weren't making the connection that Isaiah was talking about this guy that we've been following. Exactly. And so then, look, verse 2 of 55. Listen to this. Why spend money on what is not bread?
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Chapter 5: How can we make the most of every opportunity to share our faith?
So you start thinking about, man, what is happening here in the Gospel of John is that Christ, the salvation of Israel, has come. And it turns out that not only is He the salvation of Israel, He's going to be the salvation of the entire world. And nations will be called that didn't know Him.
Nations that did not even know anything about him will actually run to him, nations outside of Israel because of Israel. And so that, again, going back to that phrase that Paul uses, first for the Jew, then for the Gentile, you're seeing it even play out here. So I think there's a lot more implications here any time you reference the Old Testament, particularly Prophet Isaiah.
I mean, there's a whole lot of eschatology going on in this passage, believe it or not.
Well, and not only that, Zach, you think about that concept of children, when Jace read that earlier. You know, in their minds, maybe they were just thinking about their patronage, you know, their particular line. But you remember what he told Abraham way back with the first promise to a childless man. He said, your children, your offspring...
will be like stars in the sky and sand on the seashore. I mean, try to count that.
Yeah, like the covenant just continues to unfold, the covenant that God makes. And it's always, in some regard, a one-way covenant, like it was in Genesis 15, when he split the animals and he said, go through. I mean, Abram never went through. God went through by himself. So it was essentially saying, if this... If you break this covenant, may this happen to me.
So in John 6, what you're seeing, again, you're seeing Christ taking preeminence in the initiation of the covenant. Christ draws you in. Christ invites you in. But we do have a response, though, because he also says in Matthew's gospel that how I long to gather you under my wing. Like a hen, mother hen gathers her chicks, but you are not willing. Yeah. You weren't willing.
So there is the element here of he's trying to gather us in.
Well, the idea, it's all in. Let me read one verse just before you go back. This is Galatians 3.16, the tithe, what I was saying about Abraham. The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed, his heritage, his children. The scripture does not say, and to seeds, meaning many people, but and to your seed, meaning one person who is Christ.
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Chapter 6: What insights can we gain from John 6 and Isaiah?
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What I love about it, Zach, is that Jesus highlighted it even before we got into this text with the woman at the well, by even dropping this whole water, living water line on her, because she was one person who was thirsty. And not just thirsty for the water out in the well, obviously more than that.
Whenever I go, and those of us who have had what I call prodigal moments where we're like the kid in Luke 15, the lost son,
you know you realize that at the moment where you realize you were hungry and thirsty and i'm not talking about for food or drink but i'm talking about for more than what life has now offered you because you've just blown it you're in a terrible place and someone can take that make the most of that opportunity and speak the word the word of christ into you in that moment i mean it's what you've been looking for i mean there's a police officer
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Chapter 7: How does the message of hope resonate in difficult times?
Psalm 22 is, if you read it, you would say, wait a second, this isn't the Old Testament because it is an exact description of what happened to Jesus on the cross, how he was pierced, how they put the crown of thorns on his head. Everything's in there. And it's a messianic prophecy about the way that Christ would die.
And so we sat in that, like he read the text and just in silence, we sat there for a minute and it was heavy. It was very heavy because we didn't get into the resurrection on Sunday because it was the Sunday before Easter. We do that on Easter, but we just sit in the death that week before on Palm Sunday. And we preach like it's a Good Friday sermon. And so we just sat there.
Well, then somebody turned the page and I love it because it literally was on the next page. Turn the page past the death of Christ. And the picture in Psalm 22 is the picture of the Christ with full authority and dominion. In one translation, the word dominion is actually used, which made me think of Daniel 7, that passage. But this is what it says.
And just listen to the language here at the end of Psalm 22 and verse 27. All the ends of the earth shall remember. All the ends of the earth. Not one people group. All the ends of the earth shall remember and turn to the Lord. And all the families of all the nations shall worship before you. For the kingship belongs to the Lord and he rules or he has dominion over. Over the nations.
And I'm just like, even in that messianic text, that prophecy in Psalm 22 about the death of Christ, you also see the Great Commission when Christ claims all authority on heaven and earth has been given to me. Now go and make what? Disciples of all nations. Go fulfill what the – this is the mandate. This is what we're doing. This is the plan.
And I just think that that authority, that dominion, it is all just soaking in all of this, even in John 6.
I agree. Well, we're out of time, and I know our goal was to get through John 6 today, but that didn't happen because – Well, we have to go through this Deuteronomy.
Yeah, it's too good.
I agree. And I have some things about the jewels from Isaiah 54 that I think you'll find fascinating. So we can do that for the next podcast. But I just want to say they were grumbling and arguing, and I just want to sum this up. I think the worst travesty on this earth that you can do as a follower of Jesus is waste a day because you only have so many. I mean, they're numbered for your life.
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