Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1036 | Jase Offends Millions of People & the First Fake News in History Shows up in the Bible
Thu, 06 Feb 2025
Jase’s hot take on the shortcomings of a significant portion of the hunting population might cause a riot, but he stands by his words. The guys delve into the paradox of Christ living “in us” when scriptures repeatedly show he can’t be contained by created things. Jase points out the first time fake news ever happened in the history of the world. Plus, was Jesus’ baptism really necessary? In this episode: John 1, verse 19; 1 Kings 8, verses 22-27; Revelation 2, verse 21; 1 Peter 2, verse 4; Hebrews 6, verse 19; Hebrews 9, verses 24-28 — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: What did Jase say to offend deer hunters?
That's not news to me. I told you they were going to be here. I've already had these arguments with these people. Look, I love deer. I love to watch them. I love to eat little ones. I get it. People deer hunt. Great. I'm all for it. I'm just saying when it comes to how hard...
the challenge that's that put it in context and i'll live with it so whatever they're saying guess what it's called a guilty conscience i think well it was funny because i was they were they were actually texting me while they were sitting sitting in a deer stand so they were like hey i was listening to jace you know so what are you doing right now i'm a deer hunter i tried to call him i said what do you i said i can't talk i'm deer hunting i said are you sitting down they're like yeah so i mean
He did make a good point. You're doing your best, though. Who made a good point? You did. I think your point was, I actually agree with you.
It's not rocket science here. I told you, the number one quality trait that is needed in deer hunting is time on your rear. Yeah. Now, there is a level of it, though.
Which is why you said that Willie excels in this area.
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Chapter 2: Is deer hunting more challenging than duck hunting?
He specifically mentioned body types, too, if I remember correctly. I mean, just think about it. Deer are colorblind. I mean.
yeah they're cut they can't even see well but you have to you're wearing orange jumpsuits out in the woods this is so anti what i'm doing i mean i don't but those guys but i will say the guys that hike up into the the wilderness of alaska or in the hills of colorado and they those guys or they quarter the deer out or they quarter the elk out and then they That's a different story.
Well, that is, but you're down to about 31 people on the planet. Yeah. So I'm friends with one who does that. I'm like, okay, now that was challenging. So great. But I call it like I see it. I mean, I'm all about men being men. And so I just said in the hunting world, I do believe one of the greatest challenges is a duck hunter. I mean, it's hard to be successful. Yeah.
So, actually, I'm going to put my thoughts to action here. I got an event coming up I'm going to invite you to. You need to come to this. Okay. It's called Man Night. We'll just make sure. Yeah, we'll just make sure everything's clicking for you.
Where's it at?
It's in Farmington, Arkansas, March the 8th. They have room for 3,000 men. That's why I'm talking about this. And look at this. They're giving away a bass boat. Whoa. So forget whatever I'm going to say.
Can you get me preferential treatment on the hand grab into the name and drawing? No.
Here's what you do is that you can go to brandnewchurch.com. Must be a brand new church. I don't know, but that's where you go, brandnewchurch.com. What a clever.
What's interesting is, Jase, I may actually drop by because I'm thinking about going up to Arkansas for a retreat for the 6th to the 8th, a men's retreat. It ends on the 8th. I may drive over.
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Chapter 3: What is the significance of Jesus' baptism?
Which we call it the Unashamed Bible Study, yeah.
Yeah, so they're doing it on the first Sunday of every month. They're having like a representative of the family there. You know, kind of passing the legacy.
Because this used to be dad's class, right?
Yeah. Well, Phil was there, which was awesome.
Yeah, I know. I heard that. I was excited to hear that.
So every time I'd look over, he'd give me the Roman gladiator thumbs up. Head nod. This is my son, whom I'm well pleased. I thought it was interesting, though, since most people in there were people that got wind that I was speaking who know me. I mean, it's like my wife's parents were there. I was like, this is a visitor class.
It's aimed at our guests that come mostly from Unashamed Nation. But yeah, I think the word got out, Jason.
So I did a little, because I didn't have any notes or anything. I mean, I shared Jesus. I talked about the good news. But I also did a little bit of this kingdom stuff we're doing, you know, and heaven and earth coming together. And, boy, it was just crickets. So I was glad I did that, Zach. Yeah. That caused a lot of questions after the class from non-visitors, which was kind of funny.
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Chapter 4: What is the first instance of fake news in history?
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Chapter 5: How does the idea of the Kingdom of God apply today?
He's like, the time has come. The time is here. The kingdom... When did he write that? When did he say that? 2,000 years ago. 2,000 years ago. Yeah. Remember what he went on to say in Mark 9.1? Some of you who are standing here will not taste death before you see the kingdom of God come with power. Yeah. How can you make that statement?
Well, it must have happened at some point in there, some version of wherever the king is reigning, if he's at the right hand of God, he pours out his spirit. We have his spirit. And so I went through that little... the thing that we've been doing about there is a answer to Jesus' prayer when he prayed that his kingdom would come to earth as it is in heaven. Remember that?
I pray that your kingdom come on earth. But it got a few crickets. I wanted my butt, because a couple times I asked a couple questions. It was just silence. And so I was like, boy, it'd be nice to.
Well, the funny thing about that is the founding elder said, of that church taught us this. Bill Smith believed this. A lot of this was the teaching on the kingdom. I think a good way to see it, because it is kind of like in the songs we sing and a lot of the stuff that forms our imagination of heaven, Most of it, I think, is directionally challenged.
A lot of what we grew up singing, what I mean by that is that we kind of flip the direction. We think that it's us going there. And really, probably the more biblical picture is heaven coming here. You see that really even in what's happening here in this moment in John 1. I mean, Christ is here. He did. He condescended. And if you look back at the scripture, it seems to be the other way around.
Whenever it's like the Tower of Babel, that's man trying to go to God. It just doesn't work. That's not how the direction is always God coming to man. It's always heaven coming here. It's not the other way around. And I think that's what's being accomplished in this institution of Jesus's ministry.
Cause you gotta think, I mean, he's been rolling around for what, 30 years before he even starts the ministry. But this is the, this is the beginning of the ministry, but you see, you see even the spirit of God coming. You see heaven like opening up and that, that picture there, you know, heaven, I think can mark the, the,
The word is schizo, which it's the same word that's used when it's talking about the tearing of the veil, you know, Jesus's resurrection or his death. And it's ripping open. So heaven's ripping open. The spirit of God is like is coming down out of heaven onto the sun. And then the voice from heaven comes down onto the sun and says, this is my son whom I'm well pleased. So that direction changes.
Always seems to be from God to us, not from us to God.
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Chapter 6: What does it mean to have Christ living in us?
I think the biggest problem for people to wrap their head around it is they look out in the world and say, well, it doesn't look like it.
Yeah.
If God is in control of this, why is it so bad? And I think that's the whole understanding of the Bible and life and that struggle. is God moving in and redeeming the world in Christ.
But it's interesting, Jase, because it's all about your viewpoint. If from inside the body of Christ, it seems very clear to me that he's here. From outside the body of Christ, I'm sure you are saying, where is God? Well, exactly. It's all about the viewpoint.
Hey, this thing is being renovated as we speak. Every time we declare Jesus, it is literally being recreated and renovated. Now, ultimately, just like I did the thing about the bodily resurrection, the whole thing's going to be made right. That's why you have those statements about you and John 12 where he's like, when I die and I'm lifted up, I'll drive the prince of this world out. Right.
And you're like, well, how is that possible? Because look at all the tools and weapons that the evil one uses who actually fell from heaven. Remember when Jesus said, I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven? Yeah. So it goes back to say that there's an interesting, where's that at where Solomon is talking about? Even the heavens can't contain you. I think it's 1 Kings 8.
I mean, read that 1 Kings 8 one time when you got about – it's a very long chapter. Let me look it up specifically. I hate when I bring up something, and I'm not sure that's exactly where it is.
You're talking about when he built the temple, the dedication?
Yeah, but he prayed, and he's like saying all these things that are – It's like you're – even the heavens can't contain you? Well, most people think, well, I thought that's where God was. And my point is we're putting way too much emphasis on places instead of persons. God created the heavens and the earth. He's bigger than heaven. I'm just going ahead and throwing that out there.
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Chapter 7: How does God's Kingdom interact with the earth?
I feel like we're playing a poker game, talking about the Bible, and we keep calling and then raising. Because I have another one I want to raise.
But go ahead, Zach. Well, I was just going to say, as you guys were talking, I was thinking, what in the world does this have to do with John 1? And the answer is everything. Because when Jesus, when John says, I baptize you with water, but the one coming after me, this is he who baptizes with the Holy Spirit. And I mean, we've said it before. I'll say it again.
This is not talking about when people speak in tongues. That's not what this means. And I know that's going to probably rub some people the wrong way, but if you believe that, here's my challenge to you. You're thinking too small. You're thinking way too small. This is bigger. This is about God coming to make His home in man.
To be baptized with the Spirit, it's not like an outpouring of some kind of evidence. It's not even like a gift of the Holy Spirit. When you talk about Acts 2, the gift of the Holy Spirit, that's God making His home in humans now. That's what the whole thing means. Why is the temple, why is your body a temple according to Paul? Why is your body the temple? Because it's where the Holy Spirit lives.
So when you get through John, we'll get to John 14, but that's the whole thing Jesus is kind of getting up to when he gets to John 14. He's like, look, it's for your good that I go away. Now, we hold Christ up as high as we can possibly get him. Christ is as high as, I mean, he's exalted. And I mean, he is supreme. He's preeminent.
But when Christ himself says, it is good that I go away, we probably need to pay attention to why. Why is it good, Christ, that you would go and ascend to the Father and not be here walking around with us? Why is that good? It's good because he says, if I don't go, then he won't come. Well, who is he talking about? The Holy Spirit. And when the Holy Spirit comes, he's going to live inside you.
That's John 14. He's going to make his home in you. He's going to guide you into all truth. It is the ultimate connection. It is the fulfillment. All this stuff that we're reading about in John 1 says, He's Elijah. There's all this new Exodus language or all this overlaying of the Old Testament. What does it all mean?
It all means that God is going to accomplish his ultimate goal, which is he's going to dwell with his people. It's going to happen no matter what. He will win.
So where did we leave off in John? All right, it's John 119. And I just want to read this section because you got into it just a bit, Jason, when we went back and looked in Luke 1. It's right after that prologue that we spent a lot of time talking about in John 119.
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