Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1007 | Mia Takes a Secret Interest in Fishing to Impress Jase with Her New Skills
Fri, 13 Dec 2024
Jase and Mia fish together for the first time ever, and Jase is over the moon about Mia's newfound angling skills. The guys continue their discussion from Colossians 3 about sexuality, marriage, and the differences between intimacy and lust. Plus, why our society thinks that men like Jeffrey Epstein, Hugh Hefner, and P. Diddy are living the dream until the nightmare comes to light. In this episode: Ephesians 4, verse 17; Hebrews 7, verse 18; Hebrews 10, verses 35-39; 1 Peter 3, verse 21; 1 Thessalonians 4, verses 1-8 — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: What fishing skills did Mia show to impress Jase?
And I mean, I jumped a foot. It was black dark. And I just hear this voice, hey, Dad. And it was my daughter. I was like, are you lost? She said, no, I wanted to come fishing with you. I was like, oh, because she had just pulled in. Where's dad? He's fishing, catching y'all some crappie. Yeah. And she actually, I'm like, well, come on. I only have one rod.
But I was like, let me show you how to do this. So I caught a cut because it's a little tricky. I was like, you have to put it in the exact spot, do this. And I thought, have you been fishing? Because she's never been one to want to go fishing. She said, I've been catching fish in Tennessee. I was like, oh. Genetics. You're now wanting to show your skills off. Genetics.
I said, well, okay, here you go. And so the first one, she actually, because I'm tight lining, so it was not difficult. And I'm on a bridge that's probably 12 to 15 feet above the water. So not only do you got to catch the fish, set the hook, you then have to sling it up on the bridge. And you have to fish on the bridge because it's the quickest way to get away if someone comes out of their house.
Yeah. And so she missed the first one. I said, got to have a little more hook set here. It's more of a, because I said, well, you've been catching in Tennessee. And she's like, well, brim. I was like, you can get away with a lot on a brim, but he's crappy when you feel that bump. Go 1,001. I said, and then you jerk back. I said, he will resist. And that's how you set the hook. Next bump. Boom.
She gets him. She had a little trouble slinging the crappie over, you know, but she figured it out. I was like, it's leverage. It's a leverage thing. And then I caught a couple more to show her how to do the proper sling to the bridge. And then she caught a big one. And so that's when we called it a wrap. So we caught the crappie. But back to the deer, same principle.
I was like, need a deer for... Thanksgiving. So I basically put out a hit. What I get from me not being involved in your deer operation is I need a gift, a sacrifice. This is your tithe. It's the tithe, and it cannot be over 50 pounds because I want to process it myself and do it quick. Because you don't trust anybody else cleaning.
So I said that to Jay, and he just kind of looked at me like, huh. And that was it. But I said my piece, and we went duck hunting. And Jay didn't go with us that morning, which was a mistake. Because he took his daughter deer hunting, which is a good thing. Yep. But he hears us about every 10 minutes because it was a flight. I mean, it was exciting.
We're seeing ducks migrating dots, and we're all calling. And then about one out of five bunches that would lock up, and we actually started shooting them. Yeah. So he's hearing this, blah, blah, blah. So I know he's getting frustrated. A little FOMO. Yep. The worst thing you can do when you're deer hunting, and he's basically a deer watcher. Yeah.
They're shooting cull bucks or whatever their process is, you know, which is just, I find, not interesting. And so he got to thinking about that conversation. And every volley that goes off, so about 8 o'clock he couldn't stand anymore, and he said, you still want that deer? Yeah. And I'm like, I didn't even know what he was. I had forgotten. I'm in the excitement of duck hunting.
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Chapter 2: How does the episode address the topic of marriage?
It's bigger.
Yeah, it's bigger. I thought it was an awesome point. It goes on beyond this physical thing that we experience here on the earth.
When Jesus says the whole thing that if your eye causes you to sin, gouge it out. If your hand causes you to steal, cut it off. The real nugget in, I think, Jesus' teaching there is that your eye doesn't cause you to sin. And you're your hand doesn't cause you to steal. I mean, think about the absurdity of that. Like that's not why my hand doesn't do anything on its own. Right.
What causes us to sin. And this is the part we do cut off is, is the evil desires. And James, it says each person is,
is tempted when he is lured this is james 1 14 and enticed by his own desire then desire i think y'all's translation says evil desire then desire when it is conceived gives birth to sin and then sin when it's fully grown brings forth death and that's the that's the same language of evil desire in colossians 3
And what I think is interesting about formation of sexual formation or any spiritual formation, the question we should ask is formation unto what? What is the point of any kind of formation? And the point of all of it, the whole point of the cosmos, the point of our existence, the point of the physical universe is so that we can commune with God. It's communion. That's the thing that we're after.
And If you think about the discussion on sexuality, if you start to anchor it not in necessarily a moral framework, meaning this is right and this is wrong, but anchor it in more of an intent-design-purpose format, like what's the intention? What's the design? Why? Why sexuality?
Its intention is for communion, which results, as I mentioned in the last podcast, in the very procreation of life itself. Life comes from the sexual union of a man and a woman. That's basic biology. That's where life comes from. And when you're reading Colossians, I think this is key. If you skip back a few verses in Colossians 1, 21, it says that you were once alienated and hostile in mind.
So you think, well, what is the nature of sin? What is the nature of idolatry? What is the nature of sexuality outside of what God intended it to be? It ultimately will make you an enemy of in your own mind, and I want to read just a few more verses that kind of back this up.
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Chapter 3: What insights are shared about sexuality and intimacy?
And his point in the sermon, Tyson, was it produces confusion and disillusionment, you know, and a lot of guilt and shame. And like, I don't know if I should have done that. Not to mention transmitted diseases or what have you, or fights or jealousy.
The thing about this, I mean, like if you look at like a Hugh Hefner, I mean, who looks at Hugh Hefner at the end of his life now, especially with all the stuff coming out, and says, man, now that guy had it made. Nobody says, that's the life I want. Or Puff Daddy. We mentioned this on the podcast before. Or Jeffrey Epstein.
When you see those who have just said, we're going to pursue unbridled sexual expression, when you see that play out at the very end, why are we not saying no? Why is culture that has told us that this is the good life, Why don't we back off now? Why don't we say, no, no, no, no, this is awesome, guys. What they were doing, the thousand bottles of baby lotion or whatever, that's awesome.
Man, that's a beautiful picture. Nobody says that. Why?
But you're right, Zach. The projection in the moment was that it was good. But every time these people either get into legal trouble or they die and you start hearing the details, it's disgusting. Yeah.
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Chapter 4: What does the podcast say about the struggles within relationships?
Chapter 5: How does the discussion relate to Colossians 3?
Chapter 6: What lessons can we learn from the hunting and fishing stories?
And I mean, I jumped a foot. It was black dark. And I just hear this voice, hey, Dad. And it was my daughter. I was like, are you lost? She said, no, I wanted to come fishing with you. I was like, oh, because she had just pulled in. Where's dad? He's fishing, catching y'all some crappie. Yeah. And she actually, I'm like, well, come on. I only have one rod.
But I was like, let me show you how to do this. So I caught a cut because it's a little tricky. I was like, you have to put it in the exact spot, do this. And I thought, have you been fishing? Because she's never been one to want to go fishing. She said, I've been catching fish in Tennessee. I was like, oh. Genetics. You're now wanting to show your skills off. Genetics.
I said, well, okay, here you go. And so the first one, she actually, because I'm tight lining, so it was not difficult. And I'm on a bridge that's probably 12 to 15 feet above the water. So not only do you got to catch the fish, set the hook, you then have to sling it up on the bridge. And you have to fish on the bridge because it's the quickest way to get away if someone comes out of their house.
Yeah. And so she missed the first one. I said, got to have a little more hook set here. It's more of a, because I said, well, you've been catching in Tennessee. And she's like, well, brim. I was like, you can get away with a lot on a brim, but he's crappy when you feel that bump. Go 1,001. I said, and then you jerk back. I said, he will resist. And that's how you set the hook. Next bump. Boom.
She gets him. She had a little trouble slinging the crappie over, you know, but she figured it out. I was like, it's leverage. It's a leverage thing. And then I caught a couple more to show her how to do the proper sling to the bridge. And then she caught a big one. And so that's when we called it a wrap. So we caught the crappie. But back to the deer, same principle.
I was like, need a deer for... Thanksgiving. So I basically put out a hit. What I get from me not being involved in your deer operation is I need a gift, a sacrifice. This is your tithe. It's the tithe, and it cannot be over 50 pounds because I want to process it myself and do it quick. Because you don't trust anybody else cleaning.
So I said that to Jay, and he just kind of looked at me like, huh. And that was it. But I said my piece, and we went duck hunting. And Jay didn't go with us that morning, which was a mistake. Because he took his daughter deer hunting, which is a good thing. Yep. But he hears us about every 10 minutes because it was a flight. I mean, it was exciting.
We're seeing ducks migrating dots, and we're all calling. And then about one out of five bunches that would lock up, and we actually started shooting them. Yeah. So he's hearing this, blah, blah, blah. So I know he's getting frustrated. A little FOMO. Yep. The worst thing you can do when you're deer hunting, and he's basically a deer watcher. Yeah.
They're shooting cull bucks or whatever their process is, you know, which is just, I find, not interesting. And so he got to thinking about that conversation. And every volley that goes off, so about 8 o'clock he couldn't stand anymore, and he said, you still want that deer? Yeah. And I'm like, I didn't even know what he was. I had forgotten. I'm in the excitement of duck hunting.
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Chapter 7: How does the podcast connect personal experiences to larger societal issues?
Well, and so I want you to read that other text. Was it 1 Corinthians 6 you said?
Let me read the 1 Thessalonians 4. I think this was the basis, his main thrust, which, look, I want to say this. One of the reasons I thought it was real well done, although very blunt, and I'm not sure how many people made it to the end in his audience just based on a couple comments he made. Yeah.
the first thing he read was actually when Jesus said in Matthew 5, Sermon on the Mount, when he said, look, this idea about The law says that if you – about committing adultery, you know, and he makes this kind of illustration. He said, yeah, that's one thing. But I'm saying if you look lustfully at a woman, you're committing adultery in your heart.
Well, then it goes into this, if your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. And if your eye causes you to sin, gouge it out. It's so graphic that Jesus would say that. And it was uncomfortable for me to realize his audience in New York City, they're like, oh. I mean, is that in the Bible? I mean, it's Jesus. He's just like throwing down the haymakers here.
I mean, you can't even look lustfully on a woman. He's making that the equivalent to adultery. I mean, this seems crazy. But it was real clever on his part because he started there. Because when he got to the end, and I want to say this because you may not make it to the end if I don't say this.
But he said, you know, Jesus came on as strong, his standard for sex, about being about a man and a woman for life and exclusive. And he held that at the highest standard possible and didn't waver. But in his actions in love, in his redemptive process, meanwhile, he also reached out to a woman caught in adultery who the Pharisees were fixing to stone.
And he created a way and a space for her to find a transformation process in love. and would culminate that story at the end by saying, now, go leave your life of sin, a lot like Colossians here. He also would get to the story about the woman who was, however it portrays her, but she was basically a prostitute, a sinful woman, it says, but when you kind of dig deeper into the Greek and all that.
Luke 7. Luke 7. Yeah, and he allows her to cry and to wash his feet with her tears and putting her hair down, which was culturally only what women of the night did. And all these Pharisees are like, what do you do? You can't be a prophet and allow this woman. They were embarrassed and uncomfortable. And so I really thought that was well done because the standard is there.
It is a reflection of us being made in the image of God and what we have in a unique relationship with God in Christ in that we are literally married to him. And he made this point about a lot of people make a big deal about when Jesus said there's no marriage in heaven.
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