Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1002 | Allie Beth Stuckey Leads the Way for Christians to Talk About Social Issues with Love
Thu, 05 Dec 2024
Jase, Al, Zach, and Missy discuss the exploitation of Christian compassion with Allie Beth Stuckey, the BlazeTV host of the “Relatable” podcast and author of the NYT bestseller “Toxic Empathy.” Allie Beth offers a guide for talking about such emotional subjects within our society and how Christians can recognize when they're being manipulated by political factions and the secular establishment. Missy’s recent brush with politics and President Trump leaves her more motivated than ever to speak out for truth, and the guys are impressed by Allie Beth’s articulate and compassionate expression of her deeply held values. -- Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: Who is Allie Beth Stuckey?
I have come a long way if you are calling me your favorite guest. I'm glad I said that.
I thought that was obvious. Babe, I do this. Do you like my little mathematical equation every time I've been introducing you? Do you know what it is? What? One plus one is one. Oh, yeah. In Christ. I love it because the math, the new math, is different from a kingdom perspective.
Chapter 2: What is Toxic Empathy?
Well, I just remember the first time I ever came on your podcast, I've never seen you so nervous. So I'm glad to know that you settled in.
You make me nervous. That's a fact. But I think that's good. If you're not nervous about something, it doesn't matter. The only time I get nervous is when something really matters. Well, because you're his ultimate fact checker.
I call it accountability on steroids.
Exactly. That part we need to, there's a little something called grace. A little thing called grace.
Which is needed because Jay says a little something we call hyperbole that happens quite often on this podcast.
However, let's just go ahead and get this out of the way because I did something on the last podcast that I now have to confess. You told quite the story about you, Missy. I told the story and no one knew in our inner circle. what happened? And so I just announced it to the world about our little trip to a little place called Mar-a-Lago. I don't even know if I'm pronouncing that right.
No, you got it.
And so I told her about that, babe, because I could not have been more proud in that moment as a public speaker and my self-confession of my biggest weakness my whole first half of my life was actually publicly speaking. And I don't mean in front of an audience. I mean just... anywhere. I was kind of a shy, keep it to yourself kind of guy.
But that moment when you're standing on stage and we have all these kind of political gurus and different people of influence around us, and other people had received these influence awards, and one of them was the, I think it's the current Mississippi...
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Chapter 3: How should Christians address social issues?
Let me tell the story backstage because this is what, I mean, of course, I'm knocking around in my head because they said the president may be there, he may not be there, you know, whatever. So I'm like, what if he is? What if he's not? What is my speech? I have three to five minutes. I can't speak in three to five minutes, but I was going to do my best.
Knocking around in my head, what am I going to say to accept an award about being recognized as a mom? And then, of course, our country. And so I worked and worked and worked and worked and got it down. And I'm standing backstage waiting to be called. And the ladies...
came to me I could tell something had happened chaos chaos started ensuing and I was a little nervous already because I'm about to be called and she said we don't know what to do with you and I said okay and she said well he's on his way he's on his way so we don't know whether to hold you we don't know what whether to send you we don't know we don't know we don't want to take away your mama what and I just put my hand on her arm and I said do whatever you need to do
I live in a reality show. It's fine. I can handle it. It's not about me. And when I did that, this peace just came over because I thought, God is about to do something and I have no idea what it is.
Which is usually when he does his best work when we're not sure where this thing is going. That's right.
And she just looked at me and she said, okay. And the lady on stage introduced me and I looked at her and she said, go. I said, okay, here I go. Opened my Bible, did my speech, and then when Jay said, just like he said, Act 17 came up, and I saw the movement in the back of the hall, and I thought, I can either
quit out of respect for him or even more respect for the people here and for the Lord, I can finish my speech because it's all about God.
You were in a bind there, at least. I mean, Missy, you were in a bind because you had Scripture and the press. And if you can't abandon the Scripture, that's what I was going to say.
As a fly on the wall, my thought was,
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Chapter 4: What happened at Mar-a-Lago?
Am I a co-host?
Yeah, you're a contributor. You're an official Unashamed contributor.
Oh, okay. I'll take it.
And we had your dad on. I remember the red wagon, the little red wagon.
Yes, that's right. I don't know how many like dad-daughter combos y'all have had on the show.
You're the first and only. Yeah. And your dad and I are friends now. You know, we text at least probably every other month.
I know. I love that. And Al, you came on our marriage special too, which was really amazing.
We did. It was somewhere in the middle of nowhere in Texas. That's all I remember. I remember driving out in the middle of nowhere. I thought, are we doing a podcast out here? I felt like I was going to a bar.
We wanted you to feel at home.
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