The Daily Show: Ears Edition
Kristi Noem Plots Citizenship Hunger Games & Kash Patel Drops Epstein News | Prabal Gurung
Wed, 21 May 2025
Ronny Chieng covers Trump’s cabinet cracking under pressure, from Kristi Noem drawing a blank on habeas corpus, immigration getting the Bravo treatment, Kash Patel and Dan Bongino flip-flopping on Jeffrey Epstein’s “suicide,” and Sean Duffy finding an air travel solution in a Jesus painting. Ronny Chieng and Michael Kosta go head to head over NYC’s street-wide Knicks celebration, the Dodgers' new Japanese pitcher’s bathroom requests, and Bill Belichick spending the rest of his life with 24-year-old Jordon Hudson, in the latest edition of Sports War. Prabal Gurung, award-winning fashion designer and author of the new memoir “Walk Like a Girl,” describes to Ronny how his rise through the fashion world of New York began with the support of his family in Nepal, especially his mother. Gurung reflects on how the fashion industry has changed since the '90s to become more inclusive, and explains why he thinks “fashion is for everyone.” He also breaks down the West-meeting-the-East inspiration behind his designs and critiques some less-inspired MAGA fashion.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Chapter 1: What does Kristi Noem's citizenship proposal entail?
Let's start with Kristi Noem, Secretary of Homeland Security and one woman kill shelter. She's in charge of the country's pathway to citizenship, which for hundreds of years has been a solemn, dignified process for achieving the American dream. But what if, instead, it was tacky and gross?
A surreal report that could turn immigration into a TV show. The Trump administration says it's in the very beginning stages of the vetting process for a reported immigrant reality TV show where immigrants would compete to prove they are the most American with a chance to win U.S. citizenship.
A reality TV show for citizenship is somehow the most un-American and most American thing I've ever heard. Although we already have a contest to prove who's the most American, and it's called the Nathan's Hot Dog Eating Contest. What's more American than eating until your colon explodes and then going bankrupt from medical bills? But let me be clear, I hate this idea.
Unless they're looking for a host, then I love this idea. And I'm available on Fridays. I... I will say, it might be a nicer way to get deported. Instead of ICE agents disappearing you up in unmarked vehicles, Ryan Seacrest walks into your living room with a TV crew and is like, Carlos, we're taking you out of the USA.
But meanwhile, Kristi Noem was testifying in Congress today about whether her administration is deporting people without habeas corpus, which is their right to due process. If you didn't know what habeas corpus was, don't worry, Kristi Noem didn't Google it either.
What is habeas corpus?
Well, habeas corpus is a constitutional right that the president has to be able to remove people from this country and suspend their right to... Let me stop you, ma'am.
Habeas corpus, excuse me, that's incorrect.
Okay, look, if Kristi Noem was just a random person on the street, I'd get it if she was like, Hapius Corpus? That's a Harry Potter spell, right? Makes you invisible? But the Secretary of Homeland Security should know that Hapius Corpus prevents the president from deporting you without due process. Not that it lets the president deport you without due process. That's the opposite.
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Chapter 2: What is the controversy around Jeffrey Epstein's death?
Do you know which article it is in?
No, I do not, sir. Okay, well, it is in Article 1.
It was in one. It was the first... You didn't even read the first one. So can you stop? We get it, okay? Stop asking her harder questions. Like, how would senators like it if Kristi Noem asked you questions that she was an expert in, huh? Hey, Senator Kim, do you know how to trick a puppy into walking into an open grave? No? Not so smart now, are you?
Anyway, Kristi Noem, you still don't know the basics of American law, so I'm sorry to say... we're gonna have to take you out of USA. But luckily... I know. Won them back after the dog killing jokes. But luckily for America, Christine Noem isn't the only one in charge of keeping the country safe.
We also got Kash Patel and Dan Bongino, two guys who look like they should be henchmen in a Ninja Turtles movie, but are somehow running the FBI now. And before he took over, Dan Bongino wasn't afraid to tell us the truth about what the FBI was covering up.
Nobody knows how much material people have on Jeffrey Epstein. It's unbelievable. The guy killed himself, and now nobody's going to know.
Yeah, exactly. Epstein killed himself? Bongino knows the truth, and now he and Kash Patel get to see all the files. So on Sunday, they sat down for an interview to tell us what really happened. Because we know Epstein didn't just kill himself. He killed himself. What? He killed himself without air quotes? That is the craziest thing I've ever heard, all right? I was a single-issue voter on this.
Why did you change your mind? As a public defender, as a prosecutor who's been in that prison system, who's been in the Metropolitan Detention Center, who's been in segregated housing, you know a suicide when you see one, and that's what that was.
Again, you want me to... I've seen the whole file. He killed himself.
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Chapter 3: How did Prabal Gurung rise to fame in the fashion industry?
Did you wish your mom? I wish her for everyone. I cover all the bases. But I mean, it's because you bring her up in the book. I mean, I'm joking. It's not every single page, but she's definitely a recurring theme. At the start, she gives you strength. She keeps coming into the story. Even now talking to you, you can't shut up about her.
So it's like... Yeah. No, she is the spine behind my back. She's the reason why I'm here. And she's also one of the... She's the person who convinced me to come here.
I know. Yeah. Yeah. That's great. Otherwise, I wouldn't have. You know that. Here's the thing. I could talk to you forever because you've got such an amazing story. I'm trying to get out some gems for people. So I'll just speed round through these questions. So what would you say to young fashion designers now who are trying to enter the industry now?
not just fashion designers, to anyone. I would just say, just don't worry about the boxes. In the world that's obsessed with applause and who is continuously needing validations, if you can love yourself without it, that's the first step. Because in that freedom, there's a liberation. So I would say, don't worry about what people say. Just do what you make mistakes. Do what you want.
And be curious and read. That's all I would say.
No, don't applaud that. He said don't applaud that. He said don't. He doesn't need the validation. He doesn't need validation.
No, but when they hear the truth, people should be applauding.
And I want to ask you quickly, because you were kind of in New York City at the kind of peak of high fashion in New York. It was the 90s. It was crazy. Vanity Fair. The parties meant something. Sound cars. Yeah, there was no internet, really. There was maybe a blog. Like, oh, no. No, not really. OK, well, AOL.
Right, AOL.
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Chapter 4: What personal experiences shaped Prabal Gurung's career?
Chapter 5: Why is there a discussion about habeas corpus?
Chapter 6: What are the implications of a reality TV show for citizenship?
A surreal report that could turn immigration into a TV show. The Trump administration says it's in the very beginning stages of the vetting process for a reported immigrant reality TV show where immigrants would compete to prove they are the most American with a chance to win U.S. citizenship.
A reality TV show for citizenship is somehow the most un-American and most American thing I've ever heard. Although we already have a contest to prove who's the most American, and it's called the Nathan's Hot Dog Eating Contest. What's more American than eating until your colon explodes and then going bankrupt from medical bills? But let me be clear, I hate this idea.
Unless they're looking for a host, then I love this idea. And I'm available on Fridays. I... I will say, it might be a nicer way to get deported. Instead of ICE agents disappearing you up in unmarked vehicles, Ryan Seacrest walks into your living room with a TV crew and is like, Carlos, we're taking you out of the USA.
But meanwhile, Kristi Noem was testifying in Congress today about whether her administration is deporting people without habeas corpus, which is their right to due process. If you didn't know what habeas corpus was, don't worry, Kristi Noem didn't Google it either.
What is habeas corpus?
Well, habeas corpus is a constitutional right that the president has to be able to remove people from this country and suspend their right to... Let me stop you, ma'am.
Habeas corpus, excuse me, that's incorrect.
Okay, look, if Kristi Noem was just a random person on the street, I'd get it if she was like, Hapius Corpus? That's a Harry Potter spell, right? Makes you invisible? But the Secretary of Homeland Security should know that Hapius Corpus prevents the president from deporting you without due process. Not that it lets the president deport you without due process. That's the opposite.
of what it means, and I didn't know you could have dyslexia for laws. Either way, Noam whiffed hard on that question, but unfortunately for her, the quiz was just beginning.
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Chapter 7: How are sports celebrations depicted in New York City?
You're the champ. Oh, thank you very much. Thank you.
You honor us with your taste and your grace. Oh, thank you very much. Yeah, so you've, like, dressed, you know, the Met Gala, Obama, Michelle Obama. How does a guy go from, how does a person go from being a kid in Nepal to the highest of the highs in New York City fashion?
I would say dreaming, impossible dreams, delusion, a whole lot of it, you know. And I would say an incredibly, incredibly supportive mother and siblings who believe in all your craziest dreams and say, you know, you're worth it.
Yeah. So... So having a delusional family. Delusional family. No, I didn't say family. I said delusional me. Right. But your family also encouraged you, because that's a big part of this book. I mean, first of all, I read the book. It's great. Very easy to read. A little sad sometimes. Yes. But that's life. Yeah, OK. I wasn't complaining. I'm just describing it. Yeah, it's good. No, it wasn't.
No, it's bittersweet. It's like the sad moments, but there is hopefulness in it, even in the sad moments. When I'm reading the sad moments, I think it's because I know how you end up. I know how the book ends, so I'm like, oh. Yeah, this is nothing. But one theme of the book that keeps popping up is how much you love your mom. Yes. You keep talking about how much you love your mom.
Like, why do you love your mom so much?
Because I have a head on my shoulders. Let's just start with that. And you know, not only do I love her, I like her. My mom is incredible. She's the best from that. Wait, hang on, hang on.
Mom, you're incredible as well, and you are also the best as well. Well, that was an afterthought, just so that you know. No, I wasn't after. I was immediately on it. Mom, you are the best. I love you, Mom. My mom is the best. No, my mom is better. My mom is better than you. Well, really? Have you written a book? Have I written a book about my mom? Not yet. There you go.
Give me some time.
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