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What are the personal reflections on Memorial Day?
And I think unfortunately, for President Trump's agenda, and for a MAGA movement, this is the worst of all conditions, the financial markets will punish us.
Yeah, I think they're just kind of taking out the sort of ideological and like the political side of this. Like the folks that are just looking at it as straight math have pretty alarming things to say about the bill that's going through Congress right now.
Yeah, I don't know these guys as well as you do, but maybe they could have weighed in a little bit. Like what it was in play and gotten a few things changed isn't like one of them was in the White House.
But I guess, you know, you just complain about the one that's in the White House was actually spinning for it, I should say, on the spot. But all of the three were all criticized.
And the others, maybe the others did make some calls. And of course, you can't really get any Republican to desert Trump or to insist on even some changes in it, though. I mean, there were particular aspects of it that are more damaging than others were. No, it's all terrible.
And the immigration policy, these guys should, I think, understand why it's important to have lots of immigrants in this country, but just from that point of view, probably especially high-skilled immigrants who will help us maintain our edge if we still have it. I hope we do. Who maybe went to Harvard, for example. Innovation, high-tech, right, or any other place where they're busy.
Harvard's just obviously the tip of the sphere there. So I don't know. Are they weighing in in a big way? I guess I haven't really heard that, but I welcome them to the degree that they're tiptoeing away from total slavishness to MAGA. Of course, they still have to put it as if what's really bad about this, it's hurting the MAGA agenda. You know? Yeah. Not it's hurting the country. Yeah.
Okay, enough of my... It's hurting the MAGA.
I know, we need to welcome all of our new allies, et cetera, et cetera. I'm not welcoming Chamath. I'm just saying that it is interesting that somebody... I think it actually makes the point stronger. The fact that people that understand...
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