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The Bulwark Podcast

S2 Ep1012: Sam Stein: Elon Is Toxic

02 Apr 2025

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Musk was so high on his own supply that he thought he and his money were magic—but Wisconsin voters turned out in droves to prove to him just how toxic his brand and DOGE are. Meanwhile, the Dem base is looking highly engaged as they keep showing up for special elections in numbers Republicans used to deliver in off-cycle races. Plus, Cory Booker's epic filibuster, Mike Johnson gets owned by moms, and China will fill all the vacuums Trump is creating in science, foreign aid, and trade. Sam Stein joins Tim Miller.

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8.274 - 33.207 Tim Miller

Hello and welcome to the Bulwark Podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller. It is Bulwark After Dark tonight. I am here with the Bulwark's Managing Editor, Sam Stein. We are taping right after the very professional call of the Wisconsin Supreme Court race made by the Decision Desk HQ, Dave Wasserman and others. And I got an early flight tomorrow and Sam's kid has a tick in his or her head. His. Yeah.

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33.936 - 39.001 Sam Stein

Thank you for the revelation. It was not enjoyable pulling that thing out. Hope I got it all.

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39.541 - 54.356 Tim Miller

So we're doing a late night taping tonight. So buckle up, everybody. We're punchy. All right, listener. You might think that, you know, the Wisconsin Supreme Court race, is that really worth it? Is that really a late night taping thing? Is that something I should care about? Let me tell you, if you have any doubts, I want to play for you.

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55.751 - 59.075 Tim Miller

One of the world's richest men discussing the Supreme Court race just the other day.

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60.016 - 77.756 Elon Musk

They think it's well, it's just, you know, some kind of judicial thing that's not that important. But actually what they're doing, what's happening on Tuesday is a vote for which party controls the U.S. House of Representatives. That is why it is so significant.

78.296 - 98.571 Elon Musk

And whichever party controls the house, to a significant degree, controls the country, which then steers the course of Western civilization. So it's like, I feel like this is one of those things that may not seem that it's gonna affect the entire destiny of humanity, but I think it will. Yeah.

100.612 - 111.741 Tim Miller

Susan Crawford, the Democrat-aligned judge. You are affecting all of humanity, the destiny of humanity. Sam, what do you make of it? Good. Good.

112.342 - 113.863 Unidentified

Did you hear the guy scream at him?

113.903 - 115.925 Sam Stein

No pressure. No pressure.

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