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The Bulwark Podcast

Alex Wagner: The Poster Child for Corruption and Grift

13 Feb 2025

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While Elon claims he's storming the government to cut waste, he's also getting himself a big fat check for $400 million from the State Department for Tesla armored vehicles—though administration officials are now trying to hide the grift because the Trump glow does not extend to the weird dude. Meanwhile, McConnell may have voted against confirming RFK Jr, but he's the one who drew up the blueprint for breaking the rules. Plus, the asymmetry in passion between MAGA and the resistance, and Alex's new podcast looks at how people are being affected by the policies and promises of Trumpism. MSNBC’s Alex Wagner join Tim.  show notes Trumpland with Alex Wagner Dave Weigel's piece that Tim referenced Axios piece that was mentioned

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8.39 - 18.594 Tim Miller

Hello and welcome to the Bullard Podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller. We're still in the first month of the Trump second presidency, apparently, and I'm with somebody that's going to try to help us figure it out.

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18.655 - 37.883 Tim Miller

You would have usually found her hosting Alex Wagner tonight on MSNBC with me as a guest occasionally, but through April 30th, she's on special assignment for the limited MSNBC podcast series, Trump Land, with Alex Wagner, reporting on the first 100 days of the second Trump administration. It's Alex Wagner, and we're in Trump Land, I guess. How's that going?

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38.28 - 46.325 Alex Wagner

I mean, we live in Trumpland. It's just the reality of the situation. I hate to break it to everybody. It may not be forever, but that's where we're at.

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46.345 - 54.271 Tim Miller

Do you have any pushback on the title? Just for mental health purposes? Or you just are accepting?

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54.611 - 61.195 Alex Wagner

Well, there is a fine calculation between how much the word Trump in any given title is an attractant or a repellent.

61.496 - 61.716 Tim Miller

Yeah.

62.396 - 80.465 Alex Wagner

So I do think, though, I mean, we're looking at Trump land not just through the lens of Trump, but the people also affected by Trumpism and his policies and promises. So it's not just about the dude. In fact, I would say it's a lot less about the dude and more about the sort of broader contours of the country he is creating.

80.95 - 89.172 Tim Miller

Yeah, it's very little about the dude, actually. We're going to do a bunch on the pod. I was binging it yesterday. Love that. We have a couple news items we have to get to first, though, if you don't mind.

89.512 - 91.032 Alex Wagner

Please, go. It's your podcast.

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