Savage Lovecast Episode 932

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Unknown Announcer 0:00
You're listening to the micro version of the Savage Love Cast at Savage.Love. If you're stuck in a relationship quandary, or if you're looking for sexual harmony, well, there's nothing you can't ask on the Savage Love Cast.
Dan Savage 0:23
My first boyfriend had been out and gay for a lot longer than I had. He'd been out and gay in Chicago for 10 years. I'd been out and gay in Chicago when I met him for about 10 weeks. And he thought it was his solemn responsibility as the older, wiser gay man in our relationship to teach me how to be a gay man. I thought making out with him in gay bars and Having gay sex with him in his gay apartment later that same night made me gay enough for all practical purposes. But he thought he needed to teach me how the bathhouses worked and the cruising spots worked, the bushes in Lincoln Park, and especially how the dirty bookstore on Halstead with the video booths at the back with the glory holes in them, how they worked.
Dan Savage 1:07
Now that all sounds pretty squalid, I realize, and it all felt pretty squalid to me at the time. But understand that the baths and the bushes and the bookstores were where gay men and bi men and closet cases who were looking for dick right away went before gay.com and then Craigslist and then Grindr and then Scruff and then Sniffies all came along. Anyway, I wasn't interested in the bushes or the bathhouses or the bookstores. First, I couldn't share a can of Coke with my sister, passing it back and forth, because backwash and cooties. I certainly wasn't at 16 or 17 going to suck a dick that had been in 10 other mouths for all I knew. And I had a lot of uncles. My mom had five siblings. My dad had eight.
Dan Savage 1:55
By blood and marriage, I had 13 uncles, all of them in Chicago, and I did not know where they were at all times. None of my uncles were gay, but glory holes in video booths were popular with closet cases because you could tell yourself you were just there to watch the porn. And I didn't know if any of my uncles, a mix of old hippies and cops, were closet cases, and I did not want to find out in a video booth at the back of the dirty bookstore on Halstead. This little trip down memory lane brings us, surprisingly, to the GOP nominee for governor in North Carolina. The Assembly, a news site that covers power and place in North Carolina, came out with a big story last week about North Carolina Lieutenant Governor Mark Robinson and
Dan Savage 2:40
An anti-gay, anti-choice, anti-porn, pro-gun, pro-Trump Republican who, not despite, but because of his long history of making anti-gay, anti-choice, anti-Semitic, and pro-sexual assault, pro-gun, pro-Trump statements, secured the GOP nomination for governor in that important swing state. I want to give you just a little taste of the kind of orator Mark Robinson is. So here's a clip of pro-life, pro-forced birth Mark Robinson giving a speech in a church in North Carolina. It's hard to listen to. He's hard to listen to. But they're always telling us we need to listen to people who support Trump and understand where they're coming from. So let's listen.
Mark Robinson 3:22
You want to be left alone? You should have left me alone. We didn't argue and capitulate and talk about, well, maybe we shouldn't fight the Nazis that hard. No, they're bad. Kill them. Some liberal somewhere is going to say that sounds awful. Too bad. Get mad at me if you want to. Some folks need killing. It's time for somebody to say it.
Dan Savage 3:50
Again, he's in a church saying some people, wicked people, need killing. He cites Nazis as an historic example of wicked people who needed killing, which I guess is a bold stance for a GOP candidate, considering the way Tucker Carlson and Donald Trump are always pailing around with Nazis and white supremacists. He doesn't name the wicked people who need killing now, but... I think we all know who he means, who churchy Republicans think of when you talk about wicked people today. The gays, the abortionists, and public school teachers who Robinson has condemned. And I'm quoting here from his speech to the North Carolina Republican State Party Convention. He condemned public school teachers for feeding your children a steady diet of communism and pornography.

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