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My Therapist Ghosted Me

MTGM EXTRA! "My husband went pale..."

Wed, 07 May 2025

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Money is funny... Joanne is right. Money can make people behave quite oddly and this weeks email has plenty of that behaviour. Plus, Vogue looks different, but why and what's the diagnosis on Joanne's hair?Tickets for Joanne's tour Pinotphile are now LIVE: www.joannemcnally.comVogue's Book Tour: www.fane.co.uk/vogue-williamsIf you’d like to get in touch, you can send an email to [email protected] review Global's Privacy Policy: https://global.com/legal/privacy-policy/For merch, tour dates and more visit: www.mytherapistghostedme.comThis episode contains explicit language and adult themes that may not be suitable for all listeners.

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Chapter 1: What is the introduction to the podcast episode?

2.455 - 5.356 Narrator

This is a Global Player original podcast.

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6.477 - 15.701 Joanne McNally

Welcome to Both Harp and Scouse to Me, with myself, Joanne McNally, and Beau Billings.

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Chapter 2: Why is Vogue Williams in a recording studio?

19.563 - 24.125 Vogue Williams

I'm here, Joanne, in a recording studio. I'm finishing off recording my book, Big Mouth.

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24.566 - 25.346 Joanne McNally

Is your mouth wrecked?

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25.985 - 37.556 Vogue Williams

I have to say I'm not the biggest fan of myself anymore. There has been... Because obviously I've edited it, so this is maybe my fourth time reading and I'm like, I hate you. I hate you.

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37.576 - 62.47 Joanne McNally

I remember doing a lot of VO for the Investigator, you know, the John Investigator series, the Avril and the Furby one. And you kind of... It's like when you overthink walking and then you just fall down. It's when you speak so much, you kind of forget how to pronounce words because you're so focused on how you sound and it's discombobulation. I agree.

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63.05 - 66.092 Vogue Williams

I kind of get that with breathing sometimes. You know, if you start thinking about breathing, you're like...

70.785 - 90.403 Joanne McNally

that's why that's why it's best the less we think the better vow we've always thought that 100% less thinking out of us we start breaking when we think yeah let's not think about anything okay let's just move forward just keep going forward no thinking do you notice anything different about me okay it forwards a little to okay

Chapter 3: What are the challenges with teeth whitening?

91.328 - 95.371 Vogue Williams

I'm literally showing you my teeth like a horse. It's obviously my teeth.

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95.431 - 98.052 Joanne McNally

It's no difference. You always look like that.

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98.553 - 108.159 Vogue Williams

I did those. No, they do not. I did those. I saw somebody else and I was like, oh my God, their teeth are so white. So I took myself home. I have these whitening trays and then my teeth are really sore today, but I'm like, I don't care, they're white.

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108.979 - 131.004 Joanne McNally

Oh, but the pain, like I left my trays on for too long. I did some whitening before and I had a photo shoot the next day. It was like a press call thing. And none of the photos went anywhere because I couldn't open my mouth. Because it's like the wind whistling through your teeth. They're so sensitive. It's horrible. Even the wind was getting in. Yeah, the teeth look great.

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131.264 - 142.407 Joanne McNally

Yeah, I was on my bike and I was like, oh my God, I cut the right stuff. I use those crest whitening strips that I buy in the States. They're fantastic. They're fantastic. And a dentist recommended them to me, so they can't be that bad.

142.987 - 146.388 Vogue Williams

I know. I'm sure we're whiting our eyeballs and everything. We go to the States to just whiten everything.

146.768 - 148.188 Joanne McNally

Yeah. What do you have to tell me?

148.748 - 148.868 Vogue Williams

Oh.

151.409 - 152.449 Joanne McNally

I've loads of news.

Chapter 4: Why is Joanne concerned about her hair?

155.649 - 181.523 Joanne McNally

Two days ago. Yeah, but I saved bits. I saved bits. You little snake. I've been very busy. Have you? I've been very busy. I've had several important appointments. The main news is I was worried about this for a while. I have my concerns. It has been officially diagnosed from a professional. I am going bald. I am.

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182.571 - 200.441 Vogue Williams

Yeah, yeah, you can laugh all you want. I thought she was going to say, you are, I just, okay, I'll let you finish. I've gone, I've been to a scalp dermatologist. See, I think I love you so much that even if you literally had a bald patch on the whole top of your head was bald, like Friar Tuck, I'd still say, you're not.

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200.502 - 224.077 Joanne McNally

Yeah, thank you. And I really appreciate the support. But I think we all know I am suffering from, from early female patterned baldness I went to so I've been giving out about the front of my hairline for ages and there's the Montreal Clinic in London I don't know if you've been in there fucking stunning anyway they very kindly were like do you want to come in and we'll have a look at you

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224.884 - 243.547 Joanne McNally

My hair has not recovered. I have a lot of hair. I've always had a big head of hair. My biological father had what can only be described as kind of a Roscommon afro. Huge hair. And... But the front of the thing... Now, I've had... I've been bleaching it and you know the way you heat and you curl it and all this stuff and I had the slag strips and they were...

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244.688 - 268.302 Joanne McNally

snapping off but there's been no regrowth so the the you're so this woman is a sculptor she's like one of the best in the business her whole thing is hair loss obviously and hair is her thing and I was kind of embarrassed going in because I was like oh she's gonna just think I'm being vain but I am but like that hair is really important everyone wants a good head of hair don't they anyway she went in she goes she was she

268.442 - 286.897 Joanne McNally

pulled my hair back. We did before photos. She had a look. She goes, yeah, yeah, you are suffering from early female patterned baldness. Now, Vogue. Yes. Now, I'm sick. In the head. Finally, I have diagnosis I can work with. Yeah. So, I'm going to start... Hang on.

286.917 - 291.781 Vogue Williams

What kind of tablets... What tablets have they given you? Why have you gone for this? You must be getting something out of it.

294.023 - 300.307 Joanne McNally

Well, what she said... I was like, look, how do I end up not looking like Walter... How do I end up not looking like Walter Goggins? What's his name?

300.627 - 305.588 Vogue Williams

Walton Goggins. And he's very in fashion, Joanne. So actually you're fashionable, ahead of the curve as always.

Chapter 5: What solutions are available for hair loss?

339.567 - 341.188 Vogue Williams

There's a lot of costs to consider here.

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341.268 - 362.025 Joanne McNally

Yeah. I'll have to do a full-blown collab with Charlotte Chilbury to afford it all. Anyway, we talked about it. She was like, there's tablets you can take, but the tablets aren't localised. So you end up getting hair everywhere. So do you know what she actually recommended? Now I'm going to, I'm trying a couple of things with her. She said Regain. She said it's really, really good. Yeah.

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362.881 - 377.573 Joanne McNally

And she said, you have to be really patient because hair growth takes a long time. And she said, usually people just give up and that's why they don't see results. But Regain, and she said, the men's one, because they kind of try and trick women into thinking they need their special one. She said, the men's one's perfect. Just start putting Regain on. And she said, you will see results.

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377.833 - 380.675 Joanne McNally

Isn't that mad? So there we are. I'm on the Regain. Like Aidan from Sex and the City.

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380.875 - 397.343 Vogue Williams

I'll tell you what. Has she not told you about Finasteride? No, what's that? I'm not on Finasteride, but men, a lot of men that I know are on Finasteride. And it's basically, yeah, like, and you see a huge amount, like Joe would have, like, you wouldn't even see Joe's eyes or anything. His hair would just grow everywhere. It's really good.

397.363 - 399.966 Vogue Williams

But I don't know if it's just for men, but I don't know why it would just be for men.

400.876 - 410.098 Joanne McNally

See, there is stuff about hormones and stuff. She was saying there's certain stuff you can take for hair growth, but if you get pregnant or you're trying, you know, you kind of have to come off it or the baby, I guess, will be covered in hair.

413.259 - 423.741 Vogue Williams

I thought you could get like, I know somebody, a girl that, a makeup artist I know, Christina, got this stuff like PORP, I think it was called, where she got little rollers in her head and they put stuff in it.

424.182 - 436.424 Joanne McNally

Yeah. So we discussed all those options, all those options. But now I have a scalp dermatologist. And we're going to stop getting any more receding and maybe even grow some of it back.

Chapter 6: How do listeners interact with ex-partners on social media?

462.393 - 474.472 Joanne McNally

don't say shiny it's triggering look at that look how shiny it is did you run out of powder when you were doing your makeup today how do I bring up the shining folk please some sensitivity

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480.669 - 501.85 Vogue Williams

a guy that I know was talking to his his wife and like he was like it was talking they were just talking about stuff and he was like why do you think I should go to Turkey and then she was like yeah and he was like oh my oh my god like she's like but do you think my my hair is that bad and she was like what he's like but like do you think that I need it that bad that you think I need to go to Turkey and she goes oh no sorry I thought you said therapy

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509.975 - 535.756 Joanne McNally

love it it's like one of those TikTok trends when you know those trends they're saying probably should have just gone to therapy but they're doing something insane instead so you come back with a full head of hair and a full set of turkey teeth it's the teeth for me oh but I Dr. Layla Asfor is her name I was also her name's Layla Layla yeah it's nice yeah what's that song there's a song with Layla in it that I love Layla it's called Layla oh Layla it's what's his name Eric Clapton Eric Clapton

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535.956 - 545.059 Joanne McNally

There you go. Have you been diagnosed for ADHD yet? Just a thought. Just a wreck. Just a wreck out.

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545.099 - 559.303 Vogue Williams

I told you my therapist has sent me somebody. Obviously, I haven't got around to it because he was like, do you think we should talk about it now? And I was like, what? And he was like, about like the way you are. I was like, what do you mean? And he was like, I think that you need to have a test. I told you that. I'm going to do it. I will do it. Jump, jump, pop, pop, pop.

560.143 - 577.637 Vogue Williams

Joanne is on her, she's on her tirade of abusing Limebike. She sent me a video on Instagram of this girl crashing her Limebike. That looked painful. Crashing her Limebike into a bus. It's not the Limebike's fault.

582.14 - 582.561 Joanne McNally

Ah!

583.862 - 597.863 Joanne McNally

I do remember you used to cycle remember you need to get a bike I know I'm in I am I'm gonna get a bike I am gonna get a bike it's my it's my it's my aim for this summer do you find do people send you on insta updates on your ex-boyfriends

600.08 - 608.232 Vogue Williams

Yeah, including my family members. They all send me stuff and they send it into our family. My siblings, we have a sibling group and they send videos of exes. I'm like, guys, stop doing this.

Chapter 7: What advice does the podcast offer to listeners?

695.56 - 695.74 Vogue Williams

Yeah.

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696.321 - 701.824 Joanne McNally

I feel our advice is balanced. I feel you dragged me down. And ill-informed.

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702.745 - 703.205 Narrator

Equally.

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703.886 - 704.726 Joanne McNally

But there you go.

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705.027 - 718.156 Vogue Williams

Eat and eat, Jo. I'm not as bad as Joanne. Desperate times and all that. Here we are. Joanne and I hear the word desperate and you'll just see us bowling through the door. We love it. We're here. It's our business strategy.

719.747 - 740.741 Vogue Williams

myself and my husband have been married for six years together for ten and we have two children in the last two years I've made good progress in my career and hence my wages have increased significantly well done to you my husband has a good job but his salary has been the same for the last several years either way we both have a very comfortable life lovely home and our kids have all they need and more

741.402 - 764.757 Vogue Williams

lovely we have separate bank accounts essential I don't think I'd I have a joint but I wouldn't I have to have my own and use our joint account for all our bills and joint expenses which we split 50-50 However, I would like to add that I happily pay for family holidays twice a year and almost everything the children need, clothing, school supplies, activities, etc.

765.237 - 773.201 Vogue Williams

We never know exactly what the other person gets paid, spends every month as our wages are paid into our personal accounts. It's never been an issue before.

774.282 - 778.084 Joanne McNally

Recently, we had a meeting with a financial advisor.

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