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Chapter 1: What are some common online scams?
So that was very detailed.
Yeah. That scam is so hot.
Yeah, that's what I did. That's very doable. I like the ones that are doable. Hey, we're reviewing 20 scams in 20 minutes. Check it out. What's the first... Oh, I get it. I know you do. So the first scam is he's saying just that you order whatever, you order a laptop or probably not going to do a laptop, but they'll do something.
So worth $200 or $300, you get something for $300 and then they deliver it and you say, I never got it.
Never got it. And Amazon is... King of just give you the money, just give it to you. And then they count kind of, are you got no strikes against you, man? Whatever it is, we give you the first one.
It's, it's funny because if you can, if you can rotate delivery, you know, if you can rotate addresses where you can legitimately order two things or three things to this address and say, I never got them and then go to use a different identity. And a different address. If you can continue to do that, you could do this forever, right? Yeah, you could. Like, you could... That's...
I mean, that's really, that's where it breaks down, right? Like nobody's going to be able to turn this into a full-time gig unless they are just constantly ready to have stuff delivered to different addresses.
It's definitely a come up. Just like anything, it's the effort, you know, sitting down, coming up with this address, that address, all these addresses that you have control over that you can receive this stuff. And then you have to turn around and resell that stuff. What's the profit margin in that?
Or you have to sit outside. I knew a guy who was... This was a credit card thing, but he would actually he had a nice he had like a Cadillac, right? Like real nice Cadillac. And he would park the Cadillac down the street and then he would order a credit card. So he'd get your information. You're some lawyer, rich lawyer or somebody. He's got your credit, your information.
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Chapter 2: How do delivery scams work?
He would apply for a credit card. This is when the spoof app first came out. So he had a cell phone that made it look like he was calling from your cell phone. At your address. And then he would apply for a credit card using your information and they would approve him. This is 20 years ago. They would approve him and then they would overnight. This was when they were overnighting the credit card.
So you get a $20,000 credit card. They would overnight it. He would park down the street and wait for not Amazon, but for, you know, FedEx to show up. And as they were driving or drive by him, whatever, as they pull up and stop, they go get the package. He then pulls his car up and pulls in the driveway. And so the FedEx guy or UPS guy would get out and head towards the front door.
And he's in the driveway grabbing the trash cans or something. He'd be like, hey, is that for Brad Johnson? He'd be like, yeah, I'm Brad. They'd go, oh, here you go, Brad. He'd sign it. Thank you. Turn around, walk over, play with the trash cans, move them. Wait for the guy to leave, get in his car for a minute or open it up.
And then the guy drives off and he jumps in his car and backs up and leaves. He's got a $20,000 credit card. He then he could then turn it on using the spoof app. Credit card thinks it's calling. You're calling from this guy's phone number and turn activate it. And then he'd go and buy some gas with the card and then he'd go to the mall and run up the credit card. So, you know, that was bad.
I don't know if something like that still works, but it sounds like the same thing. If you're willing to wait for Amazon, wait down the street for Amazon to pull up, deliver the package, get in the Amazon vehicle to drive away, and then you pull up in your car, grab it, you know, the, what are they called?
Porch pirates.
Porch pirates. If you're willing to do that, the problem is most porch pirates, what they get is... They get two books that they don't know where to sell. When they're grabbing the Amazon stuff, they get... They get nothing. They get stupid shit. But this way, if you could... You know exactly what's coming to that. Exactly.
You get a $900 laptop or a Game Boy or whatever you can get that's some electronics or something worth... 800 bucks that you can put on on. And then if you actually ran a website or, you know, eBay, you just put it on eBay and you start selling on eBay at 30 percent discount. If you did it. The problem is that such a business like first of all, you get grab grabbing these things off the.
Maybe you could now think about if you had an I.D., if you had the ability to get an I.D. And the package was it was went to a house. In the I.D., Even if somebody said, hey, hey, you said, no, no, no, it was an accident. I used to live here a few years ago. I ordered this through Amazon. I accidentally clicked the wrong button, and they sent it to my old address. Here's my ID.
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Chapter 3: What is the porch pirate scam?
That's a lot of money. Even a thousand dollars a day. That's a lot of money, bro. That's $30,000. I mean, if you're working all every day, which I don't know why you wouldn't, but that's like $30,000, but there's a potential of maybe getting grabbed. But what are you really going to get grabbed for?
How many times do you get grabbed? The problem with a lot of the guys that don't do this type of thing is they don't want to work. They don't want to work. So they're shortcutting everything. Yeah. And they're risking. When you shortcut, you risk. Yeah. And your back's against the wall. So I need this address. So I'm using my next door neighbors. Right. And there's that link to you and everything.
Yeah. I'm going to use my sister. I'll go to my sister. She'll let me get in. I can get a package there. And then people see me there. Yeah. Okay. That's only a few packages. What happens is that whole scam, you've got maybe, if you're extremely innovative, you've got two weeks to a month of that working before you're like, okay, now it's straight. I've run through my relatives, all my friends.
Now I really have to be a porch pirate ordering these things in different identities, names. Yeah. With different credit cards. Like, that's a lot of work.
Just like everything, it becomes a job. Yeah. And they don't want to work. So that's why they have to move on to the next thing.
What do you think the risk is, like the jail time potential for those?
So all of that stuff is third-degree felonies. So that's a year to third degree. What does that mean? In state, it goes level, third degree, second degree, then first degree felony. And like that kind of stuff is... Property crime.
It's not that big of a deal, right? Without a doubt. Plus the likelihood that... that you get caught is, is especially if you have it, you know, to me, if you have, if you set up a crime, what if they show up? Like, it's like, what did I get? I got a $400, whatever. I grabbed it. I ordered it. Like Amazon didn't say that the guy that I ordered it, like here, you know, here's my ID.
Or even if you don't have an ID, it's like, okay, you need somebody to complain. Yeah. I understand. It went to, it went to, um, uh, you know, Colby Johnson's house and, But it's to Brad Cooper. I'm Brad Cooper. Right. Colby's not complaining. He didn't order it. I see what you're saying.
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Chapter 4: How do survey scams trick people?
All I think of is a flyer is a piece of paper.
No, no. It was a little tiny newsprint magazine like this big. It'd be in 7-Eleven. Yeah, you walk into 7-Eleven and they got the little set up stand there and you could grab the flyer. And it's just people advertising stuff and giving coupons and that sort of thing. So local businesses would advertise whatever. Sometimes people would have half a page or a whole page. Some people would have a...
A quarter of a page would just say they're they're selling bicycle parts or whatever mattress. Right. So it's kind of like Craigslist. Right. So you would. So we would run an ad in the ads in the flyer like a half page ad. And it's a, you know, good credit, bad credit. No problem. Home loans available. Right. You know, free applications and free would be really big and like red.
And then it have a phone number. And so people would call because they they think they say, hey, what is this? You know, you're giving away home loans. I'm not giving them away. You have to qualify. So you would just take mortgage applications. And then we see if you qualify for a home. You know, we just and then I say, let me take let's take the application.
And then they fill out a mortgage application. But they would give us all their information, name, date of birth, social security number. And they'd give me everything. And then I would, after owning the mortgage company doing that, we, of course, realize, and we're doing other things. We're running commercials, that sort of thing. But so when I started scamming, I did the same thing.
I just ran the ad. And I'd be in Georgia running an ad in Tampa, Florida, with a phone number. And they would call. And you'd say, yeah, what's going on? They'd say, I called the ad. Of course, you answer the phone. United Capital or whatever the name. Diversified Capital Mortgage. How may I help you? Whatever you say. And then you take the application. But they give you all their information.
And then, let's say I didn't have... If I couldn't pull their credit, then... You just call, if you want to pull their, let's say I don't have a way to pull their credit at that time because I'm a scammer. I just call another mortgage company and give them the same information. Hey, my name is John Paul. Just give them the same information this guy just gave me.
They would pull the credit and call me back. And they'd say, hey, listen, John, pulled your credit. You have a great credit score. Oh, yeah, what are they? Oh, 705, seven this, seven that. Or they'd say, yeah, you got some problems. Did you have a repo a couple of years ago? You realize that. So for $150 or $200 ad that runs in the flyer for a week, I'm getting 50 people that call.
If 10 of those people have perfect credit, That's what are you paying for that? Nothing, nothing. Fifteen bucks for perfect credit. Now I can apply for their credit card. This was back in the day before you had notifications and all of these things. But you could pick up the phone and call and and I'm giving them their information like that. Let's say not that the credit card company would call.
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Chapter 5: What is the bank loading scam?
Chapter 6: How do phone scams operate?
He's like, yeah, you just have to be able to... Keep in mind, there's no... Wait, nobody understands any of this. There was no... There was... Listen, there wasn't just like Google Maps. There wasn't even... There wasn't even... MapQuest wasn't even... He didn't even know what a MapQuest is. That was the first form of Google Maps.
MapQuest.
There wasn't even MapQuest because there was no internet. There were atlases. Or your map. You folded it out. You looked up the address. Set it in your lap. You figured out... Folded it up by a steering wheel. And the address, the street, would have like a little... It's H17. You'd find H, the block H. And then you go... Okay, so it's here. I'm here. I got to get here.
Oh, that's up by I-4. So I know how to get that. Get off on the Martin Luther King. Okay.
Insanity, bro. I can't even. I don't know how we found anything. I don't know how cars weren't just banging into each other constantly. So the point is, is that I would drive. So he said, all you got to do is find the address. Go there. You show them the magazine. He said, we'll have the magazine. And he had a magazine he gave me, which was beat to crap. It was really beat up.
Like this is a magazine. It's like, this thing looks like it's been around forever. He said, yeah, give them the magazine, show them the magazine. And he said, we don't really have any. We're out this week. So this is just one for last month or whatever, but it looked like it'd been beat through hell, bro. And it was newsprint. It was just like something that had been passed around.
He's like, show them the magazine and then just pick up the check. And it was like,
Okay.
Like I didn't understand. He's like, and what they were doing is they were selling advertisement in the Florida medical magazine, whatever. Okay. Whatever. And that's all I got to do. Yeah. Yeah. You make, I forget how much you made and he'd give you gas money and okay. So he gave us a few addresses and, And then we called back after we called back. So it was me and another guy.
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