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Fri, 20 Dec 2024

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic of this episode?

0.209 - 16.675 Narrator

Good evening, gentle listener, and welcome to Distractable. This episode, Moneyed Mark comes out for AAA creators, knocks Nintendo, and comes up random. Blighted Bob is still sicky, balks at buying unfinished BS, and suggests,

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16.815 - 42.279 Narrator

more festies wealthy wade rejects evil and goes into exile argues the nickels and dimes and gets into grannies from single sausage orgies to hogwarts hand cannons yes it's time for insert topic here now sit back and prepare to be distracted and enjoy the show

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44.212 - 60.512 Mark

Hello and welcome to Distractible. My name is Markiplier and I'm going to be your host for today. I traveled in for this episode. I made a long, extensive journey to be here because there was a podcast emergency in that we needed to record this podcast. And what podcast is that?

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61.115 - 74.899 Bob

is it just it's distractible still that's correct one point above oh is this a quiz episode hang on let me pull up google i'm gonna write down this answer what podcast distractible what podcast is this i'm not gonna be fooled again

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78.496 - 93.508 Mark

Yeah, it'll come back up. It'll come back up. End of the episode. I'll ask it again. But this is the podcast where we make up everything as we go and the hosts change out and new bullshit comes every week. If you don't like this week's episode, next week's gonna be even better. We do two a week. Yeah, we do two a week. Some people don't know that.

93.628 - 98.953 Bob

They probably don't follow us so they don't get the notifications. If you followed it, they'd tell you.

99.173 - 104.538 Wade

Yeah, ring that pot of pot. Ring that pot. What are you doing, Spotify? Just click the button.

104.758 - 121.646 Mark

You're going to have to, like, swipe down to get the full video of the episode down a little bit. But if you go find that follow button, you'll know any time we get there. And then we look really good in Spotify's eyes, and then they will give us a lot of money. Bags. And that won't benefit you at all. It'll benefit us.

122.625 - 127.586 Wade

Yes, it will. You'll know that your lowercase g gods are doing a lot better than they were before.

Chapter 2: How is the gaming industry evolving with early access games?

356.224 - 372.288 Wade

Yeah, and they got it. I mean, granted, they got it, but I don't know, man. I do love both games, but man, even in early access with half the weapons not in the game, like some of the classes not in the game, bugs and crashes and whatnot, like the early access issues, which I'm not a big fan of early access. Let me be clear.

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372.308 - 393.638 Wade

I think early access is a bit of an annoying scam, but it's the game and everyone's got to play it. So that's where we're at. But even in that state, it's good. It's fun. It's challenging. I didn't think I would like it because I'm not big on the Dark Souls feel of like hopelessness walking into a boss fight and just being like, take my sword! One one thousandth of its health bar went down.

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393.938 - 403.324 Wade

It hits you once. Three quarters of your health bar went down. That feeling is not usually very good for me, but something, I don't know, something about this works and it feels good.

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403.624 - 407.966 Mark

Well, that's good. I'm glad you found something other than hopeless. I gave you a Diablo 2 point.

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408.306 - 414.529 Wade

I didn't break up with Diablo first, so I'm kind of feeling a little scummy. They're both aware of each other, right? Like, I've been honest.

414.749 - 419.211 Mark

Honest, just not all the way honest. Honest, I don't think that qualifies as honest point.

419.511 - 438.529 Bob

honest just not like just not truthful or well no no they both know what i'm doing honest but not forthcoming no something you mentioned since this is a gaming podcast something you mentioned i'm surprised companies don't do more and i don't know the full extent but you said that they acknowledge things that they didn't do that literally the path of exile devs were like

438.669 - 451.612 Bob

Well, this is why we're not doing that. Sorry, guys. I don't get why more companies don't do that. Blizzard and Diablo four team is a little egotistical and they think they're they know best. But there are lots of companies who do a really good job of addressing the community.

451.852 - 464.314 Bob

And even the good ones will often just if they're not going to do something that a lot of the community is asking about or asking for, they'll just ignore it. And like they'll be like, we're doing this. And everyone's like, what about this thing we always ask for?

Chapter 3: What are the differences between Path of Exile and Diablo 4?

676.96 - 696.593 Mark

Even $69.95 back then was probably pretty high, but then prices went down because people were like, it can't be over $50. And then every single nudge up after that was fought tooth and nail. And I'm not blaming anyone for this, but I'm coming out swinging by saying $30 for a game is not a lot of money.

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696.893 - 711.96 Wade

I will agree with you. The only reason I said it was a high price is because this is a free-to-play game that has a $30 price just to play it early. I still think that's not terrible. And 30 is the cheap one. It's 30, 60, and 100 are the three prices for the three early access packs.

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712.0 - 715.2 Bob

Oh yeah, 100 would be kind of a lot for early access for a free game.

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715.32 - 730.285 Wade

But I agree with you. I think games could cost more. Obviously, we're in a position of, one, we get to write off games on our taxes. Two, it's our job. Three, we can afford to play these games. So we have a lot of things going for us as far as paying for them. But I agree that games have not got much in price as to what they should.

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730.585 - 749.378 Wade

It's just a little weird to pay $30 to basically be a beta tester for a game that will come out and be free because most of their monetization in Path of Exile, all of it isn't even for pay to win stuff. It's quality of life stuff, like having some stash tabs that have different organization. That's like the big one as far as I know. And then the rest of it's purely cosmetic stuff.

749.518 - 757.243 Wade

And that's been their monetary model that's done very well for them apparently over the years because they've continued it even in the Path of Exile too. Absolutely. It's all distractions and smoke screens.

757.583 - 783.685 Bob

i like your argument mark but i think that that comes i think there's a caveat to what you're saying that i would require in order to agree with it okay all right and that would be i would happily pay 80 bucks 100 bucks maybe more depending on the game for a game if that meant i got the whole game and it was supported and like done and it's it's a

783.965 - 809.339 Bob

common talking point these days where people are people complain about companies just crap out something and expect to to finish it after it's released the other thing i don't care for that i think makes the pricing would make the pricing hard to bear is like my example and it's all different now but destiny 2 when destiny 2 came out i was like okay it's an expense it's a full triple a game it's like a 60 game plus it's like a hundred dollars if you want to buy the first

809.659 - 833.095 Bob

however many seasons of expansions or whatever, however they called it. But even if you bought the most expensive version of Destiny 2, you didn't get even everything in the first phase of life of that game. You still had to shell out for the whatever the next DLC after the ones that you got with your original pack. And I get it takes money. They make they've made a ton of content for Destiny 2.

Chapter 4: Why is honesty important in game development?

909.051 - 924.729 Mark

Yes. And so it used to have in-app purchases and stuff like that, but now it's just everything is unlocked. You can go through the entire game all in one go because they were like, we're not going to support it anymore. So here you go. And honestly, it's a better game this way. And I know it took time to develop things.

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924.749 - 939.961 Mark

So in a weird way, it's kind of like this is a pseudo early access where they like filter content over time. It's just all how you package it. That's marketing. But now that it's $10 and everything is there, it's a fantastic game. And so it's $10. That's a bargain for what this game can offer you if you're a really big fan of that type of game.

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940.061 - 947.005 Mark

So yeah, there's definitely ways that it could be done, but a complete game, oh, so much more valuable than any other.

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947.225 - 962.102 Wade

I want to offer up this nugget as well. It's hard to get a physical copy of a game that exists forever now. And there are times where you buy a game and you're at the mercy of whatever platform you bought it on. One, continue to exist and to continue to have the game on there like Destiny, you know,

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962.142 - 976.209 Wade

If you're going to put tons of money toward a game and then like maybe after two years, for whatever reason, it disappears off of a platform or even 20 years. It's like, I want to go back and play this game I bought 20 years ago. I paid full price for it. Oh, that launcher no longer exists or that game is no longer on Steam or whatever have you.

976.469 - 991.296 Wade

That's another sad and scary thing about it is like I've got my Sega games in a box where I can just go and pop in Lion King into a Sega Genesis at any time. But over the years, there are games that I'm sure we've added to our libraries. I can't name a specific example. But the other day I was going to record, you guys know the game Granny? It's like a horror game.

991.937 - 1008.216 Wade

sure so there was a granny together like a multiplayer granny game and we we all thought it was from the devs of granny i don't remember if it cost money if it was free apparently it wasn't i think someone like took granny and modded it and then like put it on steam it might have been free i don't know i didn't get a chance to pick it up but a group was wanting to record it

1008.376 - 1019.701 Wade

And I went to go get it on Steam and it was gone, did not exist. And one of our friends had it. I don't remember if it was still in their library or also gone. But point being is like that one's a little bit of like a shady who knows what was going on thing.

1019.761 - 1027.465 Wade

But in general, that can happen where you can buy a game for whatever price and then it can just vanish because you don't have a physical way of accessing it.

Chapter 5: What are the challenges of game preservation?

1275.462 - 1277.724 Wade

My lawyer doesn't do international law.

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1282.117 - 1310.882 Mark

all right so the topic we're gonna move on to that no one got the segue point oh wait yes you did you you got it oh i'm giving a point to the people at home for the segue point of today in that if you thought at home that this wasn't going anywhere you're right because i don't have an idea for this episode today I got nothing. I'm an empty sack of shit host that doesn't have nothing.

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1310.902 - 1330.196 Mark

So all of you doubters out there, probably the listeners, if we're being perfectly honest about this. It's definitely them. Yeah, it's definitely the listeners. All of you doubted me and you're absolutely right. So the listeners get one point. And let me tell you, if the listeners end up winning this podcast, we have to delete it. I'm making that rule right now. That's tricky.

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1330.656 - 1346.521 Mark

Can we keep making more or do we have to delete it and stop? We could pirate it. Someone could make an emulator for this podcast and then pirate the ROMs. An emulator of a video player? I think they have those. I don't think so. I think that's not true. For legal reasons, you might not be able to.

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1346.661 - 1348.242 Wade

For anecdotal reasons, go for it.

1348.782 - 1363.439 Mark

Okay, so there were some things that I wanted to talk about, but it was more like random things that I was trying to get into. I think that's allowed. One of the things that I've been interested more and more in and what probably is, I think we talked about in a previous episode, was 3D printing. And I was just like wanting to talk about

1363.879 - 1382.355 Mark

Hey, I've learned a bit about 3D printing, but there's nothing there. There's nothing substantial that I could possibly talk about. The Game Awards are occurring right now as we're speaking this, and there was some hype that Half-Life 3 was going to be announced there. There was other hype about Elder Scrolls 6. I've never watched the Game Award once. Oh, thank God. I thought it was just me.

1382.616 - 1383.736 Mark

I've never watched it either.

1383.817 - 1402.832 Bob

Okay, good. Can we talk openly and encourage everyone to leave comments and talk openly about how little we actually give a shit about the Game Awards in the nicest way possible? I appreciate that it's a nice industry event, and it seems like it's very well put on. Jeffrey What's-His-Name seems very congenial as far as I've ever seen him online.

Chapter 6: How do game awards impact the industry?

1729.257 - 1739.928 Bob

Yeah, like the like the PAX picks or some, you know, some kind of award. The end of PAX is an award ceremony. And it's like, these are the coolest games that we had this year. Check it out. And here's five game trailers.

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1740.168 - 1743.191 Wade

We're missing podcast festivals and awards.

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1743.371 - 1746.013 Bob

Oh, there are. Nobody wants that. There are those things.

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1746.093 - 1769.715 Mark

Nobody wants that. Shit. I think what it comes down to is enough prestige around it because there is a certain aspirational thing for filmmakers. It's romanticized. It is not exactly what people want it to be. And Hollywood's shine has dulled a long, long time ago. But still, people look at film festivals with a certain like inspirational glamour to it.

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1769.755 - 1788.63 Mark

Whereas like a convention, it's it's an everybody event. Everybody goes there and some film festivals are like that. But there is still like this kind of like, oh, this is a film festival. You have to be really, really, really good to be in this one. It doesn't even matter if it's like a local one. It's it's a it's a place where everyone loves status, you know, and they want a hierarchy.

1788.67 - 1799.876 Mark

But with gaming, it's kind of democratized in a way. It probably won't be forever, whereas like, you know, it can still be done by a one person team and films can be done by one person, but it's incredibly difficult. to do.

1800.136 - 1815.902 Mark

And so when it comes to like a convention like that, I think what people really enjoy about is like, here's here's here's Joe Schmoe's game at at booth 297, you know, and I think like it there really isn't someone that's going to judge them because they're so diverse and like it's it's the scales are so different.

1815.942 - 1827.627 Mark

And the AAA titles are the only ones that actually go to the game award shows because they're they have money putting behind it and they want to have the prestige for it. But there's so little prestige to go around that there's not enough for a bunch of film festivals to occur.

1827.907 - 1852.906 Bob

i don't know if i made a solid conclusional point there but no i mean obviously it doesn't exist and i feel like it would if it was a feasible thing because people gaming has become very legitimized in that way in the last you know five years especially but like if it was a thing that should happen i feel like it would be happening because there would there would be money to make in it honestly and that would be appealing to whomever the guy who made the game awards would also make the game festival film whatever

Chapter 7: What future events should the gaming community have?

2100.439 - 2113.671 Bob

Like he, this guy was like, Hey boss, I totally hooked up with what that girl that I was telling you about. And the boss is like, nice. She's so hot. And that's, that's, that's fishy. Feels like they're not saying part of that.

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2114.031 - 2116.493 Mark

How charismatic is this guy?

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2116.653 - 2126.421 Wade

That's the question. Well, you got to think he's great at ice breaking, right? Because he's made friendships and more with all of these people. Plus team bondage activities. This guy's top of the chart.

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2126.641 - 2128.563 Bob

I could never tell if you do that on purpose or not.

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2128.803 - 2131.725 Wade

Team bondage. I did. Yeah, that was on purpose.

2131.965 - 2139.392 Mark

Oh, wait, I just want you to know I gave you half a point for staff infections, but I gave a half a point to the listeners again because they had to hear it. Damn it.

2139.713 - 2142.439 Bob

You gotta be careful with that, man. Why does that go to them?

2142.64 - 2161.792 Mark

Because they had to hear it. Hey, I heard it too. Bobby, there's only half a point to go around. There are smaller fractions, I'm just saying, but that's fine, that's fine. But it's bigger numbers, and that doesn't make any sense to me, so I can't deal with that. It is confusing. Yeah, so it's this guy that's the issue. What if these women couldn't help but be swooned by his riz?

2162.152 - 2183.125 Bob

I get that in a workplace, if you were this man's manager and this came to light, you would kind of be like, wow. One, how did I not notice this? And two... That's clearly going to cause some problems. But if everyone who was involved was consenting, there's nothing in here that this was like using a position of authority to inappropriately pressure people to do things.

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