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Cult of Body & Soul

3. "Noon on Monday"

Tue, 03 Jun 2025

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Episode 3: The gate-kept details of SoulCycle’s instructor training program are revealed for the first time. Servers crash every Monday at Noon during sign-ups. Hurricane Sandy causes chaos when people cannot access classes. Cults of personality form between riders and instructors. Follow ⁠⁠⁠@jessxnyc⁠⁠⁠ on Instagram Watch episode 3 on YouTube _____ Executive Producer & Host: ⁠⁠⁠Jess Rothschild⁠⁠⁠ Editing & Sound Design: Caitlin Whyte Theme Song & Original Music Composer: Elizabeth Ziff Additional music: ⁠Liah Alonso⁠ "Two Cherries" performed by: ⁠⁠BETTY⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Chapter 1: What is the main focus of the SoulCycle instructor training program?

0.209 - 7.962 Caitlin Whyte

Hi, I'm Ariana Grande. Hi, I'm Cynthia Erivo. And you're listening to the Broadway Podcast Network. Visit bpm.fm to discover more.

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14.764 - 33.694 Hallie Becker

The community was wide, large, and varied. I mean, you had people who just came in. They didn't give a shit who was teaching. They just wanted to say that they went to SoulCycle, did their 45 minutes of cardio, and went home. You had people who would only ride with me. You had people who would only ride with Stacey. You had people who would only ride with Janet.

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34.094 - 58.291 Hallie Becker

Then you had relationships that would form, and people wanted to go out to dinner with the instructor. I mean, it was like any hero worship. And you had the whole front desk situation and, you know, somebody going, don't worry, I'll get you in. We made it this monster, this beautiful fucking monster of a whole bunch of bikes in a dark room with a bunch of people that just wanted to feel better.

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58.391 - 69.581 Hallie Becker

And make no mistake, it was a magical time. But they're like anything. There's always, when you peek behind that curtain, Professor Oz, there's shit going on.

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Chapter 2: How did Hurricane Sandy affect SoulCycle sign-ups?

78.988 - 97.967 Jess Rothschild

This is The Cult of Body and Soul, episode three, noon on Monday. In this episode, we're taking a peek behind the curtain of instructor auditions and the elusive training program. Plus, the cult of personality the brand thrives on and the chaos it can breed.

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99.417 - 114.867 Melanie

You know, at the time, getting picked to be an instructor was this holy grail kind of a thing, right? They were very, very particular about who got into the training program. And if you got a spot in that training program, like, you were it. Like, you were the shit.

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Chapter 3: What are the challenges of becoming a SoulCycle instructor?

115.307 - 120.951 Jess Rothschild

Chris's performing career had ended, and he was now running a dance company. This was his first class.

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121.841 - 140.113 Melanie

And I was terrible at it. I was absolutely terrible at it. I kind of loved hated it because here is this thing where like the instructor looks so amazing and like they're riding to the rhythm and I'm a dancer and I'm like, I should be able to do this. Like, why can't I do this?

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140.693 - 146.357 Jess Rothschild

Dancers tend to be perfectionists, so he could not handle being bad at this one thing.

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147.139 - 162.267 Melanie

I went back because I just, I couldn't be bad at it. Like it wasn't an option. And to be honest with you, like I would have panic attacks on my way to the train. I was like, I don't know that I can physically do this. You know, I was used to pushing myself as a dancer, but again, like I was not in dancing shape.

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162.327 - 176.9 Melanie

It wasn't like I was still performing and I would literally like have to talk myself into going to class. because I would start walking to the train and I'd be like, oh my God, I can't do this. I can't do this. I can't do this. I'm going to die on that bike.

179.763 - 190.835 Hallie Becker

And he called me one day and he said, Julie Rice is looking for crazy people to ride the bike. And I said, who is Julie Rice? And he said, are you fucking kidding me, Hallie? She and Elizabeth Cutler own SoulCycle.

191.445 - 203.532 Jess Rothschild

Unlike Chris, Halle Becker was already a sought-after personality, having taught yoga in Manhattan, at festivals, and retreats around the world. I go, what do they want me to do?

203.712 - 223.884 Hallie Becker

Teach yoga at SoulCycle? He's like, no, no, Halle. They want you to teach. I go, well, I can start teaching right now, but I have to ride that fucking bike. There's just no way this is happening. And that's exactly how I felt. I didn't even make it through the training. They were so... They were like... All right, just go. Just go here. Tuesday, Thursday, 12, 15 and 63rd.

Chapter 4: How do relationships form in the SoulCycle community?

223.944 - 228.127 Hallie Becker

These are going to be your classes. Just go. I really did not ever complete the training.

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228.747 - 241.295 Jess Rothschild

While Hallie was fast tracked, Chris had to will himself into performing the art of SoulCycle. He, of course, was eventually asked if he would like to audition. And so the auditions begin.

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243.041 - 264.657 Melanie

There was a lot of nervous energy in the room. I remember we had to do like three songs. So we like got up on the bike. They would just like put the music on and we just had to go and teach. No direction, no like nothing. I don't know, 30 seconds or a minute to like teach their song and then they would switch the song and you'd have to switch your whole vibe immediately. You picked your own music.

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264.737 - 275.58 Melanie

So like I went in there with Gavin DeGraw. pink and like Beyonce. It was like kind of like a whiplash. It was fun. I think it was like one of the most fun audition experiences I've ever had.

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276.343 - 291.292 Chris

Well, the earth shattered beneath our feet when Janet left. So many of her tribe were, oh my God, where is she going? She's going to a place called SoulCycle in New York City, which we knew nothing about. Oh, but we would. We would.

292.093 - 319.671 Jess Rothschild

This is Stevie Santangelo. She was a master instructor at SoulCycle for eight years from 2012 to 2020. Stevie was my gateway to a lot of SoulCycle lore. It was through Stevie that I first learned the name Janet Fitzgerald. See, Stevie worked for Janet at Body and Soul back in LA. I introduced myself after a few weeks and she asked me to dinner after class, just the two of us.

320.771 - 341.139 Jess Rothschild

I quickly got her backstory that she had moved to New York for SoulCycle after 20 years in Los Angeles. She actually wasn't a fitness instructor at all, but a professional chef with a passion for spin. For her 40th birthday, they offered her a job at Body and Soul, which would alter the trajectory of her entire career.

341.879 - 358.331 Chris

Like, how the hell am I supposed to teach these classes? And she gave me the single best piece of advice I've ever gotten, which is, teach it the way you want to take it. Don't cater something to them. Do the thing that you really want. Play the music that you really believe in, because if you love it, they love it.

359.152 - 370.764 Jess Rothschild

Stevie witnessed how SoulCycle West Hollywood put all of the boutique spin studios out of business. So it wasn't a surprise that Janet was in L.A. with Julie Rice scouting for talent.

Chapter 5: Why is 'Noon on Monday' significant for SoulCycle?

444.691 - 464.62 Chris

All of us sat on our hands until the 4th of July. Nobody, not one instructor, not one leaked out any information as to whether we got it or not. And now at the time, that was the top of the bar to work at SoulCycle. It was the top of the fitness bar for numerous reasons, and we can get into that later. But to get a nod, it was like getting a nod from the academy.

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465.2 - 481.36 Chris

And for the first time in a long time, I was nervous. I'm like, oh my God, what if I don't get it? I was like, I'll be okay. But I was like, I really wanted this. And so on the 4th of July, through a letter and an email, congratulations, I still have the letter at home. You've been welcomed into the program and pretty much you leave in a month.

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482.802 - 500.441 Melanie

We leave in a month. But then it's kind of like, you're kind of waiting for your life to start at that point, right? You're kind of like, you're so excited about this thing that you just accomplished that I think from my audition, only two, like of those like 30 something people that were in the room, I think only two of us were accepted into the training at that point.

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501.182 - 518.277 Melanie

And they were also scouted people. Like one of the people that was in my training group, Janet was like, he was Janet's waiter. And Janet was like... Do you want to be a soul cycle instructor? Like, come to this audition. Like, she just, like, plucked him out of the restaurant.

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518.837 - 530.006 Jess Rothschild

The training program was now somewhat codified. It took place between 8 and 12 weeks, three days a week. It was a mix of lectures, drills, and you were expected to ride frequently.

530.805 - 548.24 Chris

We had to really work to go to training. We had to work to stay in training, practice choreography, practice riding on the beat, practice riding on your opposite leg, which is we try to ride on the left, not the right. We were encouraged to make it personal. but not have a yard sale of emotion.

Chapter 6: What creates the cult-like following at SoulCycle?

549.02 - 571.81 Chris

We had to practice saying things as we were riding to be able to ride fast and hard and do all that and be able to articulate something is difficult. So we practice that. We practice what if there's somebody in row, whatever, who's doing their own thing, how do you reel that in? And Janet's great at that. When to leave you guys alone. You know, when to leave you guys alone.

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571.85 - 590.508 Chris

And there's a point where you ride, you ride, you do all these different textured movements, but when to not talk. Wait, why am I talking? Wait, why am I talking? Because you want to give people room to arrive at themselves. I make sure you have the quiet time.

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591.863 - 613.956 Melanie

A lot of the way that we were taught how to maintain control over the room was to be really specific with what we were saying, how we were speaking, the language that we were using. There's this idea that it's just like going up on a bike, being cute, like doing the workout and like spouting off mantras. Yeah. And that's not what it is.

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614.636 - 624.54 Chris

They taught us how to do that, how to create space. We do not manage or manipulate. We give you a space where you can ask all of the questions.

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625.222 - 648.091 Melanie

And it's not just about cueing in and out of choreography. It's also about the tone that you're setting. It's about helping them create a purpose and an intention for themselves in the room. So I think when we're taught to kind of be that discerning about the way that we're leading, that's what fosters that ability to be able to have control over the room.

648.703 - 667.806 Chris

And none of us are therapists. In fact, a lot were ex-attorneys. But having that plain speak was key. And we kept getting groomed. It was a terrible word. We kept getting encouraged how to access more and more of that language to speak more and more of that truth and to give you more and more space.

668.632 - 688.406 Stevie Santangelo

There's many layers to why someone became obsessed with someone at SoulCycle, many, many layers, but it's very powerful when someone can see you. And I made sure that the instructors were trained in a thoughtful, mindful way to make sure that everyone in that room felt seen and part of something.

689.249 - 706.474 Melanie

And then we would have other different kinds of workshops, like we had to do a CPR class, like branding and hospitality, which was like super cool to be enmeshed in the culture of it, like how it all started. Some of the other top instructors would come in to give us workshops, like Lori Cole.

706.494 - 713.456 Melanie

I remember we did like mic training, but then it also like turned into her taking pictures of like all the supplements that she was taking.

Chapter 7: How does the training program prepare instructors?

841.212 - 846.675 Stevie Santangelo

So they were being exposed to what felt like these mini concerts, these mini experiences.

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846.715 - 857.041 Caitlin Whyte

Of course, they're like obsessed with them. You know, the lights were dark, the music was loud, the energy was high. When you do find that and it hits, it is like you're flying.

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857.662 - 880.939 Melanie

And there was really this expectation that we were, you know, turning ourselves into these like athletes who could do this job. And it was a very, it's a very demanding job. I think that, you know, the breaking down just kind of happened as a result of the schedule that we were keeping. I never really found that they were in our faces trying to like... break us?

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881.86 - 907.348 Hallie Becker

What I think was lacking in that program, which is always what's lacking because it can't be taught, is finding your authentic voice. And you find your authentic voice through your stories and your background. I think that through your stories and your background, you become the teacher that you were meant to be. And I think that SoulCycle, Janet was sort of bad cop, good cop.

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907.788 - 912.05 Hallie Becker

Janet would be really, really hard on you and Melanie would soften it.

912.69 - 932.84 Melanie

They wanted us to like kind of cut the bullshit. Like they would call it like dipped in soul. Like someone who had just been like such a fanatic and like had found their person and like was sort of like a carbon copy of the person that they aspired to be. And so I think there is a level that like we needed to be broken of habit. We needed to be broken of life.

933.38 - 945.496 Melanie

our idea of what we thought this thing was so that we could actually do what it really is. And it's not this frivolous thing that we're doing that we can just like look cute on the bike.

946.277 - 970.884 Stevie Santangelo

Dipped in soul. Dipped in soul. When I say dipped in soul, we don't want an instructor dipped in soul, meaning like, I don't want to take the voice that you've been using at Barry's, Orange Theory, your yoga class, just like anywhere else you've taught. I don't want you bringing that instructor voice into SoulCycle, slapping the method on top.

971.545 - 975.468 Cynthia Erivo

Without saying it, I think there's the side of, well, you have to look good on the bike.

Chapter 8: What are the expectations of SoulCycle instructors?

1118.561 - 1124.445 Jess Rothschild

They finally attempted to document the training program because they were hiring a lot of new instructors.

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1124.865 - 1145.998 Stevie Santangelo

For the first time ever, I had to create a manual because before it was just like, I'm hanging out with these kids and I'm going to make sure that they're the best. But like there was no formula to it. I mean, there was in my head, but like not really, you know. And so we made a handbook. And we had a training group in Tribeca and we gave one to each of the trainees.

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1146.439 - 1159.485 Stevie Santangelo

And that night, Julie Rice texted me and said, get all of those back and don't ever hand it out again. It just dawned on her. She was like that she can't have that material out in the world.

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1159.965 - 1177.634 Stevie Santangelo

And really, our department trained the entire industry because if you didn't make it at SoulCycle, and a lot of them didn't, then they went on to teach at Cycle Bar and Flywheel and all the rest of them or a gym or wherever. So we touched and trained, I consider, most of the industry.

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1178.616 - 1201.14 Jess Rothschild

Once you complete the training program and perform several community rides, you are officially placed on the schedule. Getting people to place a $35 bet on an unknown entity is an impossible proposition, so the company would get creative by having them substitute extremely popular instructors' classes with the hope that people wouldn't cancel. They usually would.

1201.96 - 1206.821 Jess Rothschild

Chris was offered to debut his class on one of the most popular days of the year.

1207.577 - 1236.255 Melanie

So my very first class on the schedule was December 31st of 2013, New Year's Eve. I got the assignment that my first class was gonna be a New Year's Eve class. And watching that class fill up on the back end to the point where it was a completely sold out class was kind of mind blowing for me that like my first class on the schedule was going to be like a completely packed room.

1236.815 - 1263.884 Melanie

Because at this point, you're not used to teaching to that many people. And so I just remember being so absolutely nervous that I could throw up. And the energy in the room was just so high because it was New Year's Eve. Everyone was there to get in their last workout of the year. And it just felt so magical to be able to be on the schedule for the first time in that way.

1264.724 - 1277.38 Melanie

Because I think I had an out-of-body experience just like being up there for the first time where the reins have been handed over to you. Like up until that point, there's been somebody like watching you over your shoulder.

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