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Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend

John Mulaney Returns Once More

Mon, 31 Mar 2025

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John Mulaney feels litigious about being Conan O’Brien’s friend. John sits down with Conan once more to discuss his new Netflix talk show Everybody’s Live, getting in touch with old Hollywood at Sunset Gower Studios, backstage banter at the SNL 50th, and much more. Later, Conan justifies his portrait’s presence in a Colorado park office. For Conan videos, tour dates and more visit TeamCoco.com.Got a question for Conan? Call our voicemail: (669) 587-2847. Get access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using this show link: https://siriusxm.com/conan.

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Chapter 1: What does John Mulaney think about his friendship with Conan?

3.519 - 15.121 John Mulaney

Hi, my name is John Mulaney. And I feel litigious. Nice. About being Conan O'Brien's friend, sir.

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Fall is here, hear the yell. Back to school, ring the bell.

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Brand new shoes, walkin' blues. Climb the fence, books and pens. I can tell that we are gonna be friends.

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38.419 - 46.686 Conan O'Brien

Hello and welcome to Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend. Sitting here with Sona Movsesian, of course, Matt Gourley. And what's going on, Sona? You have some announcements.

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Chapter 2: What is the significance of the 'Dab of the Decade' award?

46.706 - 52.55 Sona Movsesian

I want to just congratulate you because you got something called Dab of the Decade.

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53.251 - 54.612 Conan O'Brien

Dab of the Decade.

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54.652 - 62.158 Sona Movsesian

Yeah, you have been voted by the people as the top guest on Hot Ones in their entirety of the whole run.

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62.738 - 72.79 Conan O'Brien

Now, wait a minute. Explain this to me. They had like a series of people were up for. Like a bracket? There was a bracket. Oh, my God. Look at this picture. Oh, my God.

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72.83 - 73.45 Sona Movsesian

Look at that.

73.991 - 74.912 Conan O'Brien

I mean. Look at that.

75.112 - 79.837 Sona Movsesian

You were up against Ariana Grande in the last round. And there's a picture of the two of you.

79.857 - 80.278 Unidentified

Uh-huh.

80.498 - 92.807 Sona Movsesian

And her picture, she's stunning. She looks gorgeous and stunning and she's beautiful. And you, like right underneath her, you're this crazy person and there's milk just coming out of your mouth. A monster. A true monster. An absolute monster.

Chapter 3: What are Conan and John's thoughts on the Eagles documentary?

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It was crazy.

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564.44 - 588.756 Conan O'Brien

Everybody's live. Your show makes me very happy. Thanks, man. And I really, I'm just delighted that you're doing it and kind of don't understand why nobody said, hey, I want to play with this format for a specific amount of time and really fuck around and play with it and then move on to some other stuff and then maybe come back to it.

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589.157 - 612.629 Conan O'Brien

There was a, in my day, kind of a get down into the galley and pull that oar. You know what I mean? An hour a day, and it really does change the tenor of everything. And here you guys are just having fun. And I'm not sure, I know you're gonna do, you had the previous season, which had a different name. That was Everybody's in LA, yeah.

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612.649 - 626.138 John Mulaney

Right. And we covered the city of LA. It was during the Netflix is a Joke Festival. Yes. So like every comedian was in town. Yeah. And it was a funny situation that we're all in the town of Los Angeles. This we've broadened out, you know, topic-wise and where we're filming some stuff.

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626.658 - 639.933 Conan O'Brien

And you have a very... Your monologue, I thought, was very funny, but you talk about... You had a focus group. Look at the name. Everybody's in L.A. And you said, a lot of people in the United States don't like Los Angeles. No, it's really...

641.952 - 654.426 John Mulaney

I was like, no, come on, people, it's not coastal. They say live from New York, it's Saturday night. I was like, people like knowing the data. No, people don't like Los Angeles. And then after the fires, I thought, now they might like it, feel bad for it at least. No.

654.446 - 677.038 Conan O'Brien

And you know what's interesting is that people- Pro-fire, the focus group. Yeah, yeah, yeah. May have started it. Yeah, may have started it. The fire is running for president next year as a Democrat. The thing that's shocking is if you drift around L.A. and get a little north, people in San Francisco hate L.A. Yeah. People in L.A. don't feel that way about San Francisco.

677.058 - 687.825 Conan O'Brien

I don't think they feel that way about any place. Yeah. People in L.A. are quite, oh, no, no. You know, I... Ask them about any place. Ask them about Boulder. They're like, oh, yeah, Boulder sounds great. I've never been there, but it sounds great.

687.845 - 700.114 John Mulaney

And they love every area right outside of L.A. Yes. Cerritos. Oh, Cerritos. It's great. People love Palos Verdes. Anything near it, we're pro. Yes. There's not even like suburban, you know.

Chapter 4: How does John Mulaney approach his new Netflix talk show?

1177.777 - 1204.486 Conan O'Brien

Right. Also, I got a little bit of nostalgia because you're coming from Sunset Gower Studios, which is where Greg Daniels and I started. That was my first, we got out of college. Summer after college, we're sending out, you know, trying to write for TV. We got crazy lucky and got a starting gig at a show called Not to Show the News that taped at Sunset Gower Studios. Nice.

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1204.626 - 1228.494 Conan O'Brien

That's still imprinted on my brain. I felt that we had gone to Saturn. That's how strange it was to go from Boston, Massachusetts, and I had been on a plane like twice, and I'm suddenly in Los Angeles expecting to see Eric Estrada, you know? Sure. You just keep thinking, where are the celebrities? This is where the celebrities are.

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1228.554 - 1236.477 Conan O'Brien

And you're walking around Hollywood and you're mostly seeing sex workers. And the walk of fame, Barbara Broccoli.

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1236.497 - 1236.657 John Mulaney

Oh.

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1239.106 - 1263.845 Conan O'Brien

I remember being stunned at how seedy. I misunderstood, and Greg, my partner Greg Daniels, did too. We confused Hollywood with, like, Beverly Hills. Yeah, sure. So I thought Hollywood was where all the stars lived, and that's where the mansions were. So... We got a place like on Koreatown. And then we were like, let's get spiffed up and go over to Hollywood.

1264.185 - 1274.432 Conan O'Brien

And we were walking around the Hollywood Walk of Fame. Nice. Which, of course, is your dodging vomit. And it's it's grim. It's very grim. And I remembered being.

1274.452 - 1279.575 John Mulaney

I mean, you could go buy a sword or a bong or something like that.

1280.835 - 1282.656 Conan O'Brien

You're right. I was too harsh.

1282.976 - 1305.486 John Mulaney

Sunset Gower is great because when you actually go to bigger studios in Los Angeles, there's such remote areas, other than Paramount, there's such remote, overwhelming, faceless, just all-consuming areas once you drive on the lot. Sunset Gower is like next to the Gower Gulch, which is like a Western-themed Rite Aid, and the Arby's sign that's sort of famous, which is no longer used.

Chapter 5: What are Conan's memories of Sunset Gower Studios?

1925.182 - 1926.424 Conan O'Brien

Like you're training a puppy.

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1926.764 - 1927.324 John Mulaney

Exactly.

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1927.485 - 1927.845 Conan O'Brien

No.

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1928.325 - 1949.237 John Mulaney

What about us looks like we want to move our bodies and dance? We're all tired and we want to speak lovingly but poorly of our contemporaries, co-workers, the show as a whole, and what the planning was like. Yes. And you, I remember the 40th, that, who's that guy? I didn't get to go to the 40th. That fucking Prince gets out.

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1949.817 - 1976.665 John Mulaney

And everyone talks about this like it's the greatest night in New York history. It stunk. They sounded like a wedding band. It was like Elvis Perkins, Paul McCartney, you know, maybe Ackroyd, all of them just playing at once loudly. And then Prince got up and we had to act like that was a big deal. And I'm just trying, I just was like, I just wanted to talk shit with Bobby Moynihan. Yeah.

1978.154 - 1991.438 John Mulaney

It was such a bummer. It's so not what this is about to me. Loud guitars. I had. I was really mad. And then when I saw them start to plug in at the 50th, I left. I said, I can't do everything.

1991.458 - 1991.798 Conan O'Brien

Okay.

1991.938 - 1999.78 John Mulaney

Well, here's the thing. I know how to make a good party. We would lower the music and we would all quietly say slightly negative things.

1999.82 - 2021.233 Conan O'Brien

Yeah, yeah. There were different levels at the plaza and I walked in and I decided I knew there was music and I didn't go towards the music. I stayed down. There was a bar. I ended up in the lobby where there were couches. Yeah. Just hung out there. I went past the lobby. There's a bar area and I'm standing at the bar area and I'd said hello to a couple of people.

Chapter 6: How did John Mulaney contribute to the SNL 50th anniversary?

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2863.127 - 2861.825 Sona Movsesian

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2863.187 - 2861.825 Sona Movsesian

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2863.207 - 2861.825 Conan O'Brien

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2863.227 - 2861.825 John Mulaney

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Chapter 7: What was Conan's encounter with Paul McCartney like?

2986.619 - 2986.959 Sona Movsesian

Yeah.

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2987.359 - 2989.462 John Mulaney

If you don't mind, check out one episode.

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2989.562 - 3001.274 Conan O'Brien

A lot of people don't have access to television. You know that. Oh, right. Shame me for the 1%. Whatever, you're in a bubble, so yeah. Yeah, I guess. Everyone go out and buy a new television.

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3001.454 - 3004.317 John Mulaney

Let me tell you something. When I see you on the street in New York, I'm not shaking your hand.

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3005.745 - 3007.727 Conan O'Brien

You don't like the way I've comported myself.

3008.128 - 3009.209 John Mulaney

Wait, this is your lawsuit.

3009.309 - 3013.633 Conan O'Brien

Here you guys go. Hey, here we go. No, that's not it. No, I think we need to co-own.

3013.794 - 3017.798 John Mulaney

It can't be defamation. It needs to be over the rights to something.

3017.818 - 3018.859 Conan O'Brien

Yes, yes. Yeah.

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