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Drainin’ Treys and Drivin' Holes

Thu, 1 May 2025

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Conan talks to Lucas in Amsterdam about playing professional basketball and the quickest ways to gain weight. Wanna get a chance to talk to Conan? Submit here: teamcoco.com/apply Get access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using this show link: https://siriusxm.com/conan.

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Chapter 1: Who is Lucas and where is he located?

15.943 - 39.3 Conan O'Brien

Hi, Lucas. Hey there, everybody. Hi. How are you? Good. How are you? We're doing well. Our friend Matt Gourley is not with us today. He called in sick, which means he's probably at the mall scoping out the chicks. I know what he does as he does. OK, Lucas, tell me a little bit about yourself. Where are you in the world right now? I have no idea.

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39.32 - 41.282 Unknown Guest

I am currently in Amsterdam.

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41.302 - 43.523 Conan O'Brien

Oh, OK. Is Amsterdam where you're from?

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44.096 - 45.317 Unknown Guest

Yes, it's also where I'm from.

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45.557 - 70.673 Conan O'Brien

Oh, wow. Okay. I love Amsterdam. I was there many years ago. I shot some travel stuff there in a whole other lifetime. I believe in the 90s or early 2000s. Really? And I loved it. I thought it was one of the most beautiful places I've ever seen. Really, I think it's absolutely gorgeous. So good for you for living in Amsterdam. And tell me a little bit about yourself, Lucas. How old are you?

70.693 - 71.313 Conan O'Brien

I am 26.

71.354 - 83.177 Unknown Guest

Okay. So I live in Amsterdam with my girlfriend and my two cats. I currently work as an IT consultant and I play basketball.

Chapter 2: What is Lucas's basketball background?

83.557 - 84.838 Conan O'Brien

Okay. Basketball.

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84.858 - 85.919 Unknown Guest

That's that in a nutshell.

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86.099 - 91.843 Conan O'Brien

Okay. You say you play basketball. You mean just as kind of a hobby or how serious are you about basketball?

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93.904 - 106.348 Unknown Guest

Nowadays, it's more of a hobby. I used to play professional a while back when I was still studying. but I could not combine work and professional basketball.

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106.749 - 109.833 Conan O'Brien

You played, on what level did you play professional basketball?

111.095 - 112.818 Unknown Guest

The highest level in the Netherlands.

113.499 - 115.522 Conan O'Brien

That's fantastic. That's impressive.

117.025 - 122.807 Unknown Guest

Compared to the rest of the world, it's kind of meh, but it's it's all right here.

123.007 - 150.037 Conan O'Brien

Can I say something, Lucas? I don't like your attitude. I know you're saying you all you have to do is say I play professional basketball. I played pro ball. That's and then end the sentence there. Not you don't have to mention in Amsterdam and for the Netherlands, it's OK. Yeah, but it's kind of meh everywhere else. By that point, the woman that you were talking to at the bar has gone. Okay?

Chapter 3: How tall is Lucas and does he play basketball currently?

175.918 - 177.619 Conan O'Brien

Were you any good? You must have been pretty good.

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177.939 - 201.924 Unknown Guest

Yeah, I did it for, I think, five years. Uh-huh. Yeah, I was pretty good. I was playing. I was also playing here in Amsterdam. So I was having a good time with a lot of traveling. It was still when I was still in college. So that was kind of rough, like comparing doing the studying stuff next to the basketball and combining that. But it was a good time.

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202.064 - 205.187 Conan O'Brien

Now, let me ask you some stats about yourself. How tall are you?

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205.827 - 206.368 Unknown Guest

I'm 6'3".

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206.608 - 207.508 Conan O'Brien

Okay. All right.

207.909 - 215.854 Unknown Guest

So I'm not that tall. Again, I mean, Lucas, we have a lot of... No, but compared to other basketball players on the court... Compared to, yeah, guess what?

215.914 - 224.873 Conan O'Brien

Compared to the sun, I don't generate much warmth. I guess I'm a cold fish. You've got to stop doing that, Lucas.

225.394 - 226.455 Unknown Speaker

Okay, okay, okay.

226.915 - 252.779 Conan O'Brien

All right. You're 6'3", which is tall by just about any standard, okay? You're a six-foot, we're going to work on you, Lucas. You're a six-foot-three badass who played pro basketball. Yeah. And now you're an IT genius. Okay? Yeah. You need some of this American swagger. Here's what we do in America, and I think you've probably noticed. We just say we're great at stuff. Yes. Even if we're not.

Chapter 4: What is Lucas's relationship status?

309.655 - 310.135 Conan O'Brien

What's her name?

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310.155 - 311.776 Unknown Guest

I met her. Sorry?

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312.037 - 312.497 Conan O'Brien

What's her name?

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313.624 - 313.924 Unknown Guest

Zoe.

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314.085 - 322.991 Conan O'Brien

Okay. So Zoe, and how tall is Zoe? 6'1", I believe. 6'1", yeah. You keep looking off to the side. Is she in the room with you?

323.992 - 328.095 Unknown Guest

No, no, she's two rooms apart.

328.215 - 357.444 Conan O'Brien

Wow, this relationship is flourishing. We live two rooms apart from one another. What are you, a Mennonite? Okay, well, all right. But how long have you been going out for? Seven years. Oh my goodness. Wow. Okay, things are getting serious. And you're young, so you started dating when you were 11. But you know what? Again, it's Amsterdam. You guys are probably, you know, toking on that bong.

357.704 - 358.425 Matt Gourley

Oh boy.

358.505 - 371.089 Conan O'Brien

Dating when you're 11, you know. So, no, no, no. Those are just stereotypes about Amsterdam, which we don't indulge in anymore. We know there's so much more to Amsterdam. Well, I think this is all very impressive.

Chapter 5: How does Conan encourage Lucas's confidence?

377.711 - 386.414 Unknown Guest

Not that often. Sometimes when she needs a sparring buddy on practice, I go over there and we can play some basketball.

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386.794 - 390.275 Conan O'Brien

You play defense a little bit and try and keep her on her. That's good. That's good.

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390.868 - 395.31 Unknown Guest

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll try to make her life a little bit tough. Yeah.

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396.25 - 397.411 Unknown Speaker

Yeah.

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397.431 - 413.077 Conan O'Brien

Okay. That's good. You live two rooms apart from each other and you try to make her life more difficult. It's all adding up now. This is the way. Okay. Well, I feel like you've got a pretty good life. Are you done with basketball or do you want to continue with it?

413.41 - 430.019 Unknown Guest

No, I'm still currently playing. So I quit pro basketball. And then I had two years of, well, not playing. And I just started playing again this season. So, yeah, I'm still, but on a lower level. So I'm kind of relaxing.

430.56 - 434.202 Conan O'Brien

Yeah. What's your strength as a player? Ooh, I think...

435.549 - 437.41 Unknown Guest

I think I'm a pretty good scorer.

437.77 - 445.254 Conan O'Brien

Are you one of those guys that has a killer outside shot? You can just drain it. You can drain threes all day.

Chapter 6: Is Lucas's girlfriend also a basketball player?

482.785 - 484.066 Lucas

I thought you meant something, you know.

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484.206 - 484.666 Conan O'Brien

No, no, no.

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484.826 - 485.286 Lucas

Vagina.

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485.486 - 487.568 Conan O'Brien

No, no. Jesus Christ, no.

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487.788 - 488.628 Lucas

Okay, I'm sorry.

488.828 - 491.93 Conan O'Brien

Right. And that doesn't exclusively mean vagina.

492.17 - 493.311 Lucas

Okay, okay.

493.331 - 496.293 Conan O'Brien

There's another hole. All right. I'm just saying.

498.36 - 499.061 Lucas

Oh, no.

Chapter 7: What are Lucas's basketball skills?

516.436 - 517.336 Lucas

You European.

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520.578 - 522.159 Conan O'Brien

You're not pulling your fair share.

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522.179 - 523.819 Lucas

Yeah, you piece of shit.

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523.959 - 548.841 Conan O'Brien

Hey, that was too far. This guy can drink trays all day and drive to the hole, provided it's the right hole. Lucas, I'm ashamed of myself. I'm ashamed of my country. I'm ashamed of my assistant, Sona. This is just a mess. Hey, easy on the water, okay? That stuff ain't cheap. He keeps gulping water.

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548.861 - 550.842 Lucas

No one ever said easy on the water.

550.862 - 571.675 Conan O'Brien

Easy on the water there, pal. Does Zoe know that you're talking to us right now? Yes, she knows. Does she approve or does she think this is a huge waste of your time?

573.197 - 574.037 Unknown Guest

No, she approves.

574.298 - 575.359 Conan O'Brien

She approves. Okay, good.

576.54 - 577.4 Unknown Guest

She was pretty high for me.

Chapter 8: How does Lucas balance basketball with his IT career?

588.575 - 590.056 Conan O'Brien

International, international star.

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590.076 - 595.699 Lucas

She's just two rooms over instead of like outside excited. So I just thought maybe she was just ambivalent.

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596.02 - 613.627 Conan O'Brien

They didn't even have that room. She rented that room when she heard that Lucas was going to be talking to me. Paying a lot of money right now to stay away. Lucas, is there any way that I can help you? I like to help people and you seem like a nice guy and I'd like to help you in any way I can.

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614.068 - 644.085 Unknown Guest

Yeah, sure. So we were on the topic of basketball and you were saying like those interesting phrases with like driving through the hole and that kind of stuff. So I'm in a team with a lot of introverts and I think... And I'm also kind of introverted, but when I'm on the court, I can get more vocal. But I think you could help me and maybe my team through me be more of a trash-talking team.

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644.225 - 667.584 Conan O'Brien

Oh, yeah. Oh, you came to the right guy. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I'll tell you a true story, Lucas. I used to play a lot of basketball with just kids in the neighborhood. There was a hoop. There was a school across the street. There was a hoop there. And so my brother and his friends would get together and a bunch of us would play. My sister Kate would come over and play. She's a good athlete.

668.165 - 694.455 Conan O'Brien

And we would have these games. These just pickup games in the neighborhood. And I spent all my time- describing who my character was. I would stop the game and describe who my character was, how he had done time in prison for murdering a fan in the stands, but got off on a technicality. I would go on and on and on. Then I would talk constantly.

694.475 - 699.016 Conan O'Brien

When they would pass me the ball, I would start talking as my character.

699.036 - 699.376 Unknown Speaker

Oh, God.

699.856 - 717.304 Conan O'Brien

And it was so... I mean, occasionally people would be laughing, but a lot of times they were just annoyed and frustrated. And so all I did was talk. So, yes, you came to the right place. I swear I could teach you guys to trash talk. I would be so good at it. That would be great. Go ahead.

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