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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
Tue, 25 Mar 2025
Is MAHA being invaded? X users noticed a strange pattern of MAGA influencer accounts posting near-identical oppositions to the removal of sugary soda drinks from the SNAP program. Journalist Nick Sortor alleges the campaign was funded by Big Soda organizations in an attempt to subvert the MAHA movement via a secretive agency called Influenceable. Though it was likely a legitimate sponsorship, the posts did not include FTC disclosures and misleadingly excluded any indications that they were paid promotions. “I strongly lean libertarian and don’t care what choices people make – UNLESS they impact others,” writes attorney Tom Renz. “We pay for SNAP and if you are on SNAP you may well also be on Medicaid. I don’t want to pay for unhealthy food and then have to turn around and pay for your healthcare because you ate it.” Tom Renz is an attorney from Ohio dedicated to fighting corruption and defending freedom. Find more at https://tomrenz.com and follow him at https://x.com/RenzTom Dr. Randy Bock is a physician at Regeneris Elite Men’s Health Clinic with over 30 years in primary care. He pioneered a sobriety-based narcotic-detox program in 2008 and authored Overturning Zika. His forthcoming book is titled Withdraw to Freedom. Find more at https://randybock.com and https://x.com/DrRandallBock 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 Find out more about the brands that make this show possible and get special discounts on Dr. Drew's favorite products at https://drdrew.com/sponsors • FATTY15 – The future of essential fatty acids is here! Strengthen your cells against age-related breakdown with Fatty15. Get 15% off a 90-day Starter Kit Subscription at https://drdrew.com/fatty15 • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at https://drdrew.com/paleovalley • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at https://twc.health/drew 「 MEDICAL NOTE 」 Portions of this program may examine countervailing views on important medical issues. Always consult your physician before making any decisions about your health. 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (https://kalebnation.com) and Susan Pinsky (https://twitter.com/firstladyoflove). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: What is SodaGate and why is it important?
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You can find more Tom at Tom Renz, R-E-N-Z, T-O-M-R-E-N-Z. That is TomRenz.com and RenzTom on X. And let's talk a little SodaGate. Tom, welcome back.
Good to see you, Doc. How are you?
You as well. So I was talking to Adam Kroll about this very issue this morning. And he was saying he was a little confused by people who took issue with anyone aiming at these problems. subsidies of people buying soda. And he said, well, why don't we just put cigarettes amongst the opportunities for them to purchase, the snap opportunities. So it'll just be cigarettes and soda. Why not?
I mean, if that's how we're gonna do it, then cigarettes and soda.
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Chapter 2: How is Big Soda allegedly influencing SNAP policies?
Tom, I want to interrupt. I mean, I think everyone kind of understands that's where the rubber hits the road. My question is, who needs to hear, who needs to be pressured to find out why there is delays, why there's not some initiative, some movement in this direction?
I think we got to ask Bobby. I mean, I love Bobby. I mean, you and I, he's done great work, but we need to find out from him who's interfering with his ability to get things done. Because at this point, at minimum, Drew, at minimum. Bobby could have, would have, should have released all of the FOIAs that were requested, the legally requested FOIAs on everything related to food, mRNA, vaccines.
I mean, all he'd have to do is do that, and we'd have enough evidence and information to change the whole world in minutes. I mean, it would be mind-blowing.
So what is that FOIA information? Where is that? What is that? Is it emails? Is it court documents? What are we talking about?
Well, if you look at the number of FOIAs that have been requested over the last several years that have been held up by various organizations, Naomi Wolf has asked for information. Tom Fenton's asked for information. Everybody in the world has asked for information. And then a whole bunch of people you've never heard of. A lot of those FOIAs were ignored or they were put on the back burner.
We could get through those FOIAs, that would be one thing. And if you're asking me, what could Bobby do to be effective? I'll tell you what, Doc, if I were given authority, if I were Bobby Kennedy, I would, first of all, ask for all of the reports from a project called Project Salus. Project Salus was a AI project, it was a joint project done with HHS and the DOD.
And they tracked the safety and efficacy of the vaccines. I blew the whistle and dropped one of those reports back during COVID. I would also ask for the Medicaid, Medicare data on hospitalizations and efficacy of vaccines and certain pharmaceutical interventions we're paying for. I would look at – that data is there.
The FDA has that data at its fingertips, Center for Medicare and Medicaid Studies. They have all that stuff there. It's a matter of some very basic database searches. If they need help, they can call Elon. And we actually had a whistleblower. I had a whistleblower who had access to that. We had it in court. where we saw safety efficacy issues.
All of the data that we need to prove what Bobby needs to do is available. He's got to pull that data and he's got to put it out there. They didn't promise to ban vaccines. They didn't promise to ban anything. They promised transparency. Transparency is what we need. We don't ban anything until we have the data to prove it. But that transparency is not there yet.
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