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Yes, I understand that pharmaceutical companies still pay doctors to give speeches. But those doctors are talking about what they believe to be true. It just happens to be coincident with the pharmaceutical companies want to say to other doctors. But they get paid to go out and push that. But everyone else, we have nothing, and I mean nothing, to do with pharmaceutical companies.

Yes, I understand that pharmaceutical companies still pay doctors to give speeches. But those doctors are talking about what they believe to be true. It just happens to be coincident with the pharmaceutical companies want to say to other doctors. But they get paid to go out and push that. But everyone else, we have nothing, and I mean nothing, to do with pharmaceutical companies.

Why can't we have a same standard for our public officials? It's disgusting. Even the appearance of impropriety should be washed out.

Why can't we have a same standard for our public officials? It's disgusting. Even the appearance of impropriety should be washed out.

And a brilliant veterinarian recognized that these dolphins sometimes developed a syndrome identical to our Alzheimer's disease. Those dolphins were deficient in a particular fatty acid. She replaced the fatty acid. and they didn't get the Alzheimer's. Humans have the same issue, and we are more deficient in this particular fatty acid than ever before.

And a brilliant veterinarian recognized that these dolphins sometimes developed a syndrome identical to our Alzheimer's disease. Those dolphins were deficient in a particular fatty acid. She replaced the fatty acid. and they didn't get the Alzheimer's. Humans have the same issue, and we are more deficient in this particular fatty acid than ever before.

So what do we do? That's why I'm feeling kind of overwhelmed when we talk about these things. I mean, you talked about the FOIA documents we're not getting. You talked about all these, I mean, so many complicated issues. Much like you, I'm a simple man, Tom. I'm using the Tom Renz approach here. I'm a simple old physician from Southern California. And it seems to me that keeping...

So what do we do? That's why I'm feeling kind of overwhelmed when we talk about these things. I mean, you talked about the FOIA documents we're not getting. You talked about all these, I mean, so many complicated issues. Much like you, I'm a simple man, Tom. I'm using the Tom Renz approach here. I'm a simple old physician from Southern California. And it seems to me that keeping...

Keeping it simple is the way to go. Because I'm looking for pressure points. If I get to go talk to these folks, I want to know what the hell. I want to know exactly why we're not disentangling these things. Why aren't we doing this? Why is that happening? And what do we need to do to correct it? And is it just eye off the ball? There are other priorities right now. I can accept that.

Keeping it simple is the way to go. Because I'm looking for pressure points. If I get to go talk to these folks, I want to know what the hell. I want to know exactly why we're not disentangling these things. Why aren't we doing this? Why is that happening? And what do we need to do to correct it? And is it just eye off the ball? There are other priorities right now. I can accept that.

These guys are moving fast, a lot going on. I get it. But what is it gonna take? What's it gonna take? And what is your plan? And one of the ones I've been looking forward to, he said he's gonna do a RICO action against the major journals for allowing pharma to influence them. And God knows we saw that during COVID. It was just ridiculous. So what's going on? Is Donald Trump getting in the way?

These guys are moving fast, a lot going on. I get it. But what is it gonna take? What's it gonna take? And what is your plan? And one of the ones I've been looking forward to, he said he's gonna do a RICO action against the major journals for allowing pharma to influence them. And God knows we saw that during COVID. It was just ridiculous. So what's going on? Is Donald Trump getting in the way?

Are these lobbyists getting in the way? I'm hearing as part of the soda gates sort of scandal is that these lobbyists are looking for any way into the Maha consciousness. I interrupted you. Give me your thought.

Are these lobbyists getting in the way? I'm hearing as part of the soda gates sort of scandal is that these lobbyists are looking for any way into the Maha consciousness. I interrupted you. Give me your thought.

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Let me stop you with that. That's one of the reasons I was kind of stepping off of that plan of reviewing the Medicare, Medi-Cal data. It's gonna get into the weeds in ways that are gonna be surprising to you in that A, how the diagnostic sheets are completed, particularly if people die, is extremely, it's not inaccurate.

Let me stop you with that. That's one of the reasons I was kind of stepping off of that plan of reviewing the Medicare, Medi-Cal data. It's gonna get into the weeds in ways that are gonna be surprising to you in that A, how the diagnostic sheets are completed, particularly if people die, is extremely, it's not inaccurate.

It doesn't necessarily reflect what was happening at the hospital with the patient. You literally have to go review the medical record. And now we're talking about millions of records and that's not gonna happen, number one.

It doesn't necessarily reflect what was happening at the hospital with the patient. You literally have to go review the medical record. And now we're talking about millions of records and that's not gonna happen, number one.

Number two, then we're going to get into a whole freaking ridiculous argument about Fauci at all saying, no, no, no, I never said people weren't going to be hospitalized or get sick with COVID. I said they were going to have less complications and they're going to be less ill. And so if you hadn't had the vaccines, you see the ICUs would have been overwhelmed.

Number two, then we're going to get into a whole freaking ridiculous argument about Fauci at all saying, no, no, no, I never said people weren't going to be hospitalized or get sick with COVID. I said they were going to have less complications and they're going to be less ill. And so if you hadn't had the vaccines, you see the ICUs would have been overwhelmed.

But because they weren't overwhelmed is because of the vaccines. That is an argument that is, I'm with you, wrong, flat out, inaccurate. It will go forever. It will never go anywhere is my concern, especially when you're dealing with Medicare and especially Medi-Cal records. The diagnostic categories are just all over the place, I'm sorry to say.

But because they weren't overwhelmed is because of the vaccines. That is an argument that is, I'm with you, wrong, flat out, inaccurate. It will go forever. It will never go anywhere is my concern, especially when you're dealing with Medicare and especially Medi-Cal records. The diagnostic categories are just all over the place, I'm sorry to say.

Even if they didn't, I'm telling you, even if they didn't, you're going to be in a... I just feel like, I'm all about the FOIA, I think that's great, but I feel like this particular spot... it's not going to bear fruit the way you think. I know how these records work. I just know how medical records work.

Even if they didn't, I'm telling you, even if they didn't, you're going to be in a... I just feel like, I'm all about the FOIA, I think that's great, but I feel like this particular spot... it's not going to bear fruit the way you think. I know how these records work. I just know how medical records work.

Particularly for those kinds of resources and those kinds of patients and things, it's going to be a mess. And then to prove what we want to prove... I don't see it.

Particularly for those kinds of resources and those kinds of patients and things, it's going to be a mess. And then to prove what we want to prove... I don't see it.

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But again, I just want to, again, issue a warning because I've actually done that kind of research. And I want to research paper, research competition on exactly that kind of thing. Does this antibiotic work? Yes or no. You have to, and the head of the infectious disease at LA County is now 100 years ago when mammoths walk the earth.

But again, I just want to, again, issue a warning because I've actually done that kind of research. And I want to research paper, research competition on exactly that kind of thing. Does this antibiotic work? Yes or no. You have to, and the head of the infectious disease at LA County is now 100 years ago when mammoths walk the earth.

The head of the LA County infectious disease program said to me, he goes, he said, this is how you, this is what you have to do. You have to ask the narrowest of questions. and then just do least squares and a null hypothesis, and it either works or it does not. The null hypothesis is either informative or non-informative. It just doesn't work or not. And that's it.

The head of the LA County infectious disease program said to me, he goes, he said, this is how you, this is what you have to do. You have to ask the narrowest of questions. and then just do least squares and a null hypothesis, and it either works or it does not. The null hypothesis is either informative or non-informative. It just doesn't work or not. And that's it.

That's about the best you can do, but you've got to be very clear about the endpoints. Anyway, I'm sorry. There's just an area... I'm frustrated by all of this because it's not... It's not going anywhere. It's not going anywhere and I'm getting frustrated. Yeah.

That's about the best you can do, but you've got to be very clear about the endpoints. Anyway, I'm sorry. There's just an area... I'm frustrated by all of this because it's not... It's not going anywhere. It's not going anywhere and I'm getting frustrated. Yeah.

So we have from 2020- To that point and the issue of changing the diagnostic codes and whatnot. Did you see Sasha Latapova's sort of email blast this morning? On her sub stack, she has a whole, Sasha, of course, is this brilliant farmer. Sasha's got too much intellectual horsepower. She's not like me and Tom.

So we have from 2020- To that point and the issue of changing the diagnostic codes and whatnot. Did you see Sasha Latapova's sort of email blast this morning? On her sub stack, she has a whole, Sasha, of course, is this brilliant farmer. Sasha's got too much intellectual horsepower. She's not like me and Tom.

And so she has documented all of this material from the Defense Department of them really looking or sort of behind the scene organizing the entire COVID operation as a national security event. And that she has all this evidence about how they, some of the things that we saw in COVID were like, what? Who did that? Why did that happen? How did it get so coordinated?

And so she has documented all of this material from the Defense Department of them really looking or sort of behind the scene organizing the entire COVID operation as a national security event. And that she has all this evidence about how they, some of the things that we saw in COVID were like, what? Who did that? Why did that happen? How did it get so coordinated?

She's building a case now that the Defense Department was in there doing a lot of it. Is that more of the FOIA stuff we could figure out if we had the FOIA documents? No. So this was one of the things, and you're right.

She's building a case now that the Defense Department was in there doing a lot of it. Is that more of the FOIA stuff we could figure out if we had the FOIA documents? No. So this was one of the things, and you're right.

I'm not as smart, that's right. It's exactly right.

I'm not as smart, that's right. It's exactly right.

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Yeah, Tom, that was one of the most striking things about the Kennedy files for me was in particular, I don't know if you caught this, but they were talking about adulterating sugar that was going from, I think, Cuba to Russia or making cows sick in Cuba. The whole idea was to regime change in Cuba. But one of the really interesting threads was about a Dr. Bergdorf who was sent to Montana.

Yeah, Tom, that was one of the most striking things about the Kennedy files for me was in particular, I don't know if you caught this, but they were talking about adulterating sugar that was going from, I think, Cuba to Russia or making cows sick in Cuba. The whole idea was to regime change in Cuba. But one of the really interesting threads was about a Dr. Bergdorf who was sent to Montana.

He was the world's expert in rickettsial and Borrelia diseases. And he was there. This is what I'm led to believe is in the documents. I haven't seen them explicitly myself, but it suggests that he was there in Montana at this essentially a biolab.

He was the world's expert in rickettsial and Borrelia diseases. And he was there. This is what I'm led to believe is in the documents. I haven't seen them explicitly myself, but it suggests that he was there in Montana at this essentially a biolab.

I was biolab to adulterate some of the rickettsial diseases in such a way as to create a chronic illness that they could then give to the farm workers in Cuba to try to destroy the food supply and that illness. was a rickettsial or Borrelia-borne illness to cause chronic disease.

I was biolab to adulterate some of the rickettsial diseases in such a way as to create a chronic illness that they could then give to the farm workers in Cuba to try to destroy the food supply and that illness. was a rickettsial or Borrelia-borne illness to cause chronic disease.

And they moved it to a place, they apparently moved the actual agent to Connecticut, where it got into the deer tick population. And we now know it as Lyme disease, which the name is Borrelia burgdorferi, which I thought was really fascinating. So the guy's name is on the Lyme disease. But maybe I've got the story backwards.

And they moved it to a place, they apparently moved the actual agent to Connecticut, where it got into the deer tick population. And we now know it as Lyme disease, which the name is Borrelia burgdorferi, which I thought was really fascinating. So the guy's name is on the Lyme disease. But maybe I've got the story backwards.

Maybe he discovered it and I'm reading into something that isn't really there. I don't think so. Why was it in the JFK files then? Why was it in the clandestine documents? So-

Maybe he discovered it and I'm reading into something that isn't really there. I don't think so. Why was it in the JFK files then? Why was it in the clandestine documents? So-

You can find more Tom at Tom Renz, R-E-N-Z, T-O-M-R-E-N-Z. That is TomRenz.com and RenzTom on X. And let's talk a little SodaGate. Tom, welcome back.

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Well, you should talk to Mei-Ling, what's her name? Help me, everybody. Li-Ming Yan, I think. Yeah, Li-Ming Yan. She's of that opinion too. And she had worked on the background of the virus in Hong Kong. So she's somebody that could help you with that. I don't have an opinion. I certainly know that China was engaged in a lot of bad behaviors around COVID. There's no doubt about it.

Well, you should talk to Mei-Ling, what's her name? Help me, everybody. Li-Ming Yan, I think. Yeah, Li-Ming Yan. She's of that opinion too. And she had worked on the background of the virus in Hong Kong. So she's somebody that could help you with that. I don't have an opinion. I certainly know that China was engaged in a lot of bad behaviors around COVID. There's no doubt about it.

And they should be held accountable. In fact, I think Missouri actually sued them successfully. They're holding them to like $20 billion of expense in Missouri.

And they should be held accountable. In fact, I think Missouri actually sued them successfully. They're holding them to like $20 billion of expense in Missouri.

They're usurping the farmlands. They're usurping the farmlands of the Chinese. I'm assuming those are private citizens, but it's kind of an interesting move. But go ahead. What does nobody want to talk about? Then I got to let you go.

They're usurping the farmlands. They're usurping the farmlands of the Chinese. I'm assuming those are private citizens, but it's kind of an interesting move. But go ahead. What does nobody want to talk about? Then I got to let you go.

Yeah. Listen, even imagine all the pieces of that that motivated people for millions or billions of dollars. It's crazy. And COVID clarified so much for me. I mean, I was a... I don't know. I was very, so moderate, I didn't have any strong opinions. I was just like, well, you know, this could be okay, this could be okay. How do I know? Now COVID was like, phew, a lot of stuff came into focus.

Yeah. Listen, even imagine all the pieces of that that motivated people for millions or billions of dollars. It's crazy. And COVID clarified so much for me. I mean, I was a... I don't know. I was very, so moderate, I didn't have any strong opinions. I was just like, well, you know, this could be okay, this could be okay. How do I know? Now COVID was like, phew, a lot of stuff came into focus.

You as well. So I was talking to Adam Kroll about this very issue this morning. And he was saying he was a little confused by people who took issue with anyone aiming at these problems. subsidies of people buying soda. And he said, well, why don't we just put cigarettes amongst the opportunities for them to purchase, the snap opportunities. So it'll just be cigarettes and soda. Why not?

You as well. So I was talking to Adam Kroll about this very issue this morning. And he was saying he was a little confused by people who took issue with anyone aiming at these problems. subsidies of people buying soda. And he said, well, why don't we just put cigarettes amongst the opportunities for them to purchase, the snap opportunities. So it'll just be cigarettes and soda. Why not?

And now we have to all speak up when we see the clarity.

And now we have to all speak up when we see the clarity.

Send me an email with your top four, and if I get to him, I'll lay him down in front of him and see what he thinks. All right? Can I ask a question? I'll send you something in a bit.

Send me an email with your top four, and if I get to him, I'll lay him down in front of him and see what he thinks. All right? Can I ask a question? I'll send you something in a bit.

Caleb, he has told me not any specifics, but that what's going on is bad, right? It's not good. So I think he's already into it, into the bad shit, let's say. But I do think he's a man of courage and honesty. And we'll see. I want to hear what Tom wants me to ask him. And then I want to know how we're going to move forward with like simple doctor and lawyer brains suggests he might.

Caleb, he has told me not any specifics, but that what's going on is bad, right? It's not good. So I think he's already into it, into the bad shit, let's say. But I do think he's a man of courage and honesty. And we'll see. I want to hear what Tom wants me to ask him. And then I want to know how we're going to move forward with like simple doctor and lawyer brains suggests he might.

So Tom, again, other than X, Tom Renz, it's TomRenz.com and then RenzTom on X, correct? Yes, sir.

So Tom, again, other than X, Tom Renz, it's TomRenz.com and then RenzTom on X, correct? Yes, sir.

Yeah, and there's a lot here. There's a lot, lot, lot of stuff. And again, I always admire your relentlessness and your willingness to get in deep. And I hope your family's doing well, and we will talk soon.

Yeah, and there's a lot here. There's a lot, lot, lot of stuff. And again, I always admire your relentlessness and your willingness to get in deep. And I hope your family's doing well, and we will talk soon.

All right, man. Talk to you. All right, Randy Bach comes in in a second. Similar topic, more infectious disease. We've got a lot to talk about. Randy, Dr. Bach, has been very involved in what's going on with the military and some of those ideas, too. He sent a long thread that I was sort of overwhelmed by, frankly. So we'll see if we can get that into the terms that Tom and I can understand.

All right, man. Talk to you. All right, Randy Bach comes in in a second. Similar topic, more infectious disease. We've got a lot to talk about. Randy, Dr. Bach, has been very involved in what's going on with the military and some of those ideas, too. He sent a long thread that I was sort of overwhelmed by, frankly. So we'll see if we can get that into the terms that Tom and I can understand.

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I mean, if that's how we're gonna do it, then cigarettes and soda.

I mean, if that's how we're gonna do it, then cigarettes and soda.

All right. Now we are going to speak with Dr. Randy Bach. Randy, amongst other things, is, of course, a physician. He is at Regenerous Elite Men's Health Clinic, 30 years in primary care. He pioneered some sobriety-based narcotic detox programs in 2008. He's authored Overturning Zika, which we talked about last time. His upcoming book is titled Withdraw to Freedom.

All right. Now we are going to speak with Dr. Randy Bach. Randy, amongst other things, is, of course, a physician. He is at Regenerous Elite Men's Health Clinic, 30 years in primary care. He pioneered some sobriety-based narcotic detox programs in 2008. He's authored Overturning Zika, which we talked about last time. His upcoming book is titled Withdraw to Freedom.

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I'm not hearing him. Is that at my end or is that Susan? We don't have sound.

I'm not hearing him. Is that at my end or is that Susan? We don't have sound.

Did you discuss withdrawal to freedom last time you were in here? No, no, but we should.

Did you discuss withdrawal to freedom last time you were in here? No, no, but we should.

So that's not what- That's what I zeroed in on with Brett Weinstein too. His sort of take on this is that most people that are medically trained, even most scientists so-called now, aren't trained in the scientific method and that it's a very delicate tool. And null hypothesis is one of the applications. And most people in science don't even know what that is anymore.

So that's not what- That's what I zeroed in on with Brett Weinstein too. His sort of take on this is that most people that are medically trained, even most scientists so-called now, aren't trained in the scientific method and that it's a very delicate tool. And null hypothesis is one of the applications. And most people in science don't even know what that is anymore.

And you could argue that maybe it's outdated in certain settings. But I feel like most of science is just getting into data analysis and engineering, which is not the scientific method. It's useful and it pushes things forward. Yeah. Go ahead.

And you could argue that maybe it's outdated in certain settings. But I feel like most of science is just getting into data analysis and engineering, which is not the scientific method. It's useful and it pushes things forward. Yeah. Go ahead.

Let's go. We are getting off topic a little bit. Let's go. I wanted to hear more about your theory of the military involvement in this. And you have a long treatment on this topic, right, on the defense. military funding and how it worked and you've seen evidence. Again, using the Tom Wren's prism, as simply as possible.

Let's go. We are getting off topic a little bit. Let's go. I wanted to hear more about your theory of the military involvement in this. And you have a long treatment on this topic, right, on the defense. military funding and how it worked and you've seen evidence. Again, using the Tom Wren's prism, as simply as possible.

But hold on. Hold on. No one's going to prevent them from purchasing soda. If they want soda, they can buy soda. If they want cigarettes, they can buy cigarettes. It's just I don't think our tax dollars should be funding, as you say, the consumptions of products that are deleterious to their health. It's like people don't understand human behavior. You don't want to reinforce bad behaviors.

But hold on. Hold on. No one's going to prevent them from purchasing soda. If they want soda, they can buy soda. If they want cigarettes, they can buy cigarettes. It's just I don't think our tax dollars should be funding, as you say, the consumptions of products that are deleterious to their health. It's like people don't understand human behavior. You don't want to reinforce bad behaviors.

COVID in particular. COVID is sort of the case example, I guess, would be the way to think about it.

COVID in particular. COVID is sort of the case example, I guess, would be the way to think about it.

And who do we believe? Who do we not believe? We've got a lot to talk about. including Maha and what the lobbyists are doing to get at the Maha. We may be speaking to some of these people at some point in the very near future, so I want to get these guys' opinions on what we should be doing, and yours as well.

And who do we believe? Who do we not believe? We've got a lot to talk about. including Maha and what the lobbyists are doing to get at the Maha. We may be speaking to some of these people at some point in the very near future, so I want to get these guys' opinions on what we should be doing, and yours as well.

Let me stop you with that information. Did you hear what I said about Lyme disease and Dr. Bergdorf?

Let me stop you with that information. Did you hear what I said about Lyme disease and Dr. Bergdorf?

It came out in the JFK.

It came out in the JFK.

I know. Isn't that interesting? Yeah, Borrelia burgdorferi. And there is sort of descriptions of how it ended up in Connecticut at a lab near Lyme, like an old mystic or something. And then Tom asked a question. This is why I bring this up. He said, well, you know, he thinks it's an active release. It wasn't an accident. It was done volitionally. And then he said, is it U.S. or China?

I know. Isn't that interesting? Yeah, Borrelia burgdorferi. And there is sort of descriptions of how it ended up in Connecticut at a lab near Lyme, like an old mystic or something. And then Tom asked a question. This is why I bring this up. He said, well, you know, he thinks it's an active release. It wasn't an accident. It was done volitionally. And then he said, is it U.S. or China?

And I was going to ask him, but I decided to ask you instead. How do we even understand that difference anymore? Because, you know, because we were sending the backbone. They were sending it back here. We trusted. I mean, I just saw what what the so-called public health officials and the pandemic preparedness people did yesterday. in relation to their Chinese peers.

And I was going to ask him, but I decided to ask you instead. How do we even understand that difference anymore? Because, you know, because we were sending the backbone. They were sending it back here. We trusted. I mean, I just saw what what the so-called public health officials and the pandemic preparedness people did yesterday. in relation to their Chinese peers.

Just for the standpoint of the well-being of the individuals you claim to care so much about. And I don't think the federal government should be playing for the healthcare consequences of what happens when people are drinking sugary drinks all day that we pay for especially.

Just for the standpoint of the well-being of the individuals you claim to care so much about. And I don't think the federal government should be playing for the healthcare consequences of what happens when people are drinking sugary drinks all day that we pay for especially.

They believe them, they trusted them, they did what the Chinese told them to do, which was the wrong thing, which was the wrong thing. And the same thing was going on in the exchange of these viral particles and these pathogens and the shared research. So President Obama outlaws it here, so we do it in China. I mean, how do we even understand it?

They believe them, they trusted them, they did what the Chinese told them to do, which was the wrong thing, which was the wrong thing. And the same thing was going on in the exchange of these viral particles and these pathogens and the shared research. So President Obama outlaws it here, so we do it in China. I mean, how do we even understand it?

And is it even different when Chinese citizens are doing the work in Wuhan, yet it's All done for us. How does that work? How do we understand whose fault this is?

And is it even different when Chinese citizens are doing the work in Wuhan, yet it's All done for us. How does that work? How do we understand whose fault this is?

That's another level to it, Kimo Sabe. Or what did Kimo Sabe call? Yeah, Kimo Sabe.

That's another level to it, Kimo Sabe. Or what did Kimo Sabe call? Yeah, Kimo Sabe.

That's the other Tonto. Tonto, Tonto, you'd be Tonto, I'd become a zombie. And so that's even another layer to this, right? That's even a scarier layer if you ask, who is us?

That's the other Tonto. Tonto, Tonto, you'd be Tonto, I'd become a zombie. And so that's even another layer to this, right? That's even a scarier layer if you ask, who is us?

I never ever thought I'd have to think about that. That's freaking crazy. It's wild.

I never ever thought I'd have to think about that. That's freaking crazy. It's wild.

Tell me about it.

Tell me about it.

If that had worked, if that had actually worked, I would be open to the sort of. The option, but it did not work.

If that had worked, if that had actually worked, I would be open to the sort of. The option, but it did not work.

He might ultimately be right. It makes sense that he would be thinking that way. It makes perfect sense, right? I mean, that's what he was doing.

He might ultimately be right. It makes sense that he would be thinking that way. It makes perfect sense, right? I mean, that's what he was doing.

I would just say, yeah, it shouldn't have been mandated. That was really where they went off the rail. And that it continues to be pushed. The one vaccine that produces excessive spike protein, the actual pathogenic component of the virus, is mind-blowing to me. Why they're not going back to the drawing board and getting a nucleocapsid mRNA vaccine. You make an excellent point.

I would just say, yeah, it shouldn't have been mandated. That was really where they went off the rail. And that it continues to be pushed. The one vaccine that produces excessive spike protein, the actual pathogenic component of the virus, is mind-blowing to me. Why they're not going back to the drawing board and getting a nucleocapsid mRNA vaccine. You make an excellent point.

Or let's get a whole virus. Let's get a whole virus. So let's get a DNA. Let's do one of the old platforms. Or to be pushing something that produces uncontrolled amounts of the actual, the thing that hurts us. Not if it were tiny amounts, that'd be one thing. But in some cases, clearly massive amounts. That is mind-blowing.

Or let's get a whole virus. Let's get a whole virus. So let's get a DNA. Let's do one of the old platforms. Or to be pushing something that produces uncontrolled amounts of the actual, the thing that hurts us. Not if it were tiny amounts, that'd be one thing. But in some cases, clearly massive amounts. That is mind-blowing.

I love, we got to do a whole episode with you as Anthony Fauci.

I love, we got to do a whole episode with you as Anthony Fauci.

Do they have mandated vaccine schedules?

Do they have mandated vaccine schedules?

Well, they don't use those vaccines in China.

Well, they don't use those vaccines in China.

But let's wrap up with this. Did you have anything to say about the soda gate before I let you go? The fact that these, go ahead.

But let's wrap up with this. Did you have anything to say about the soda gate before I let you go? The fact that these, go ahead.

Is anybody talking about this? Is anybody talking about anything like that?

Is anybody talking about this? Is anybody talking about anything like that?

Forget trade it, just go buy it. Just go buy the soda if that's what they want. But I just don't think we should be supporting cigarettes and unhealthy. I liked what Tom was saying, that we should have really, I mean, we should only be doing business with people that enhance the health of the country with the SNAP program, with any program.

Forget trade it, just go buy it. Just go buy the soda if that's what they want. But I just don't think we should be supporting cigarettes and unhealthy. I liked what Tom was saying, that we should have really, I mean, we should only be doing business with people that enhance the health of the country with the SNAP program, with any program.

If I were subsidizing, if I were handing you money to purchase your food, I would ask you, hey man, I'm not going to feel good about it if you buy cigarettes and vodka. Absolutely, I think you have a great point. I want you to buy things that I want to fund, that I want to say enhance your health.

If I were subsidizing, if I were handing you money to purchase your food, I would ask you, hey man, I'm not going to feel good about it if you buy cigarettes and vodka. Absolutely, I think you have a great point. I want you to buy things that I want to fund, that I want to say enhance your health.

I'm just saying how it should be funded, funded. But I've got to wrap this up. It is Dr. Randall Bach on X, and it is, boy, what's your website? Hold on here. There it is.

I'm just saying how it should be funded, funded. But I've got to wrap this up. It is Dr. Randall Bach on X, and it is, boy, what's your website? Hold on here. There it is.

Okay, randybach.com is the website, the book. Check out the book. Oh, what is this? In China, there are no explicit laws mandating childhood vaccines for public school. The National Musician Program provides free vaccines, and some local areas may require vaccination proof for school attendance. So it's similar to us, the vaccination proof thing.

Okay, randybach.com is the website, the book. Check out the book. Oh, what is this? In China, there are no explicit laws mandating childhood vaccines for public school. The National Musician Program provides free vaccines, and some local areas may require vaccination proof for school attendance. So it's similar to us, the vaccination proof thing.

But they have no vaccine policy, which is interesting.

But they have no vaccine policy, which is interesting.

And what I had said was the hepatitis B vaccine was originally designed because of concerns for maternal-fetal transmission in China. And now it's mandated by the World Health Organization here, where there are 600 hepatitis B mothers per year that we know well. And of course, those kids would get the vaccine. But why mandating it for everybody?

And what I had said was the hepatitis B vaccine was originally designed because of concerns for maternal-fetal transmission in China. And now it's mandated by the World Health Organization here, where there are 600 hepatitis B mothers per year that we know well. And of course, those kids would get the vaccine. But why mandating it for everybody?

And certainly, like you and I, Randy, when the vaccine came on board, we're healthcare providers. We took the vaccine because it was appropriate then. Why give it to a one day old? I don't get it. Maybe I'm missing something.

And certainly, like you and I, Randy, when the vaccine came on board, we're healthcare providers. We took the vaccine because it was appropriate then. Why give it to a one day old? I don't get it. Maybe I'm missing something.

You apply the instrument. You use the scientific method. Brandon, we've got to wrap this up. Susan, did you have a question? Are you over there wanting to ask something?

You apply the instrument. You use the scientific method. Brandon, we've got to wrap this up. Susan, did you have a question? Are you over there wanting to ask something?

He was such a great leader during, I was deep in the AIDS pandemic. I imagine you were too in your training. It all came to the residents back in those days and the fellows. And he was a wonderful source of leadership and information. I was there when the AZT was opened up. Yes, it was not a great drug, but it was something. We were moving forward.

He was such a great leader during, I was deep in the AIDS pandemic. I imagine you were too in your training. It all came to the residents back in those days and the fellows. And he was a wonderful source of leadership and information. I was there when the AZT was opened up. Yes, it was not a great drug, but it was something. We were moving forward.

We could keep these guys alive for three months instead of zero. In terms of listening to the suffering, my God, was there suffering back then. It was an unbelievable time. And no one's around to tell the story except the caretakers because all the patients died. It was a terrible, terrible time. And they were waiting for vaccines. Yeah, I know.

We could keep these guys alive for three months instead of zero. In terms of listening to the suffering, my God, was there suffering back then. It was an unbelievable time. And no one's around to tell the story except the caretakers because all the patients died. It was a terrible, terrible time. And they were waiting for vaccines. Yeah, I know.

There was some talk of it, but we were mostly thinking about therapeutics at the time, as I recall. But I appreciate you being here. We will look for you again soon to help us make sense of these complicated processes. We'll look for your writings at Brownstone. You should definitely go to Brownstone Institute to get the writings. In fact, I don't think I've been getting the emails lately.

There was some talk of it, but we were mostly thinking about therapeutics at the time, as I recall. But I appreciate you being here. We will look for you again soon to help us make sense of these complicated processes. We'll look for your writings at Brownstone. You should definitely go to Brownstone Institute to get the writings. In fact, I don't think I've been getting the emails lately.

So I'm going to make sure I'm going to get all the Brownstone emails. And I will see you again soon, sir. Thank you so much.

So I'm going to make sure I'm going to get all the Brownstone emails. And I will see you again soon, sir. Thank you so much.

Thank you, sir. All right. So coming up, our schedule's a little wonky.

Thank you, sir. All right. So coming up, our schedule's a little wonky.

I'll be watching you on the restream, and also I'm checking in right now by you guys over at the Rumble Rants. Reminder, shows are starting as of today at 2 p.m. Pacific time. Be back right after this. Our laws as it pertain to substances are draconian and bizarre. The psychopath started this. He was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography, PTSD, love addiction, fentanyl and heroin.

I'll be watching you on the restream, and also I'm checking in right now by you guys over at the Rumble Rants. Reminder, shows are starting as of today at 2 p.m. Pacific time. Be back right after this. Our laws as it pertain to substances are draconian and bizarre. The psychopath started this. He was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography, PTSD, love addiction, fentanyl and heroin.

We may have to go do something. We're not sure how this is going to work.

We may have to go do something. We're not sure how this is going to work.

So who are you? Again, I may have an opportunity to talk to some of the Maha team coming up soon here. And who is it that you are speaking to and where does the pressure need to be applied? Because it seems like a pretty simple, I don't want to say fix, but posture to take. It is totally consistent with what Robert Kennedy, as far as I know, intended of his position.

So who are you? Again, I may have an opportunity to talk to some of the Maha team coming up soon here. And who is it that you are speaking to and where does the pressure need to be applied? Because it seems like a pretty simple, I don't want to say fix, but posture to take. It is totally consistent with what Robert Kennedy, as far as I know, intended of his position.

And we may be doing a stream.

And we may be doing a stream.

We don't know. And we might be doing a stream from a distant location as well. That's another possibility.

We don't know. And we might be doing a stream from a distant location as well. That's another possibility.

Yep, we appreciate it. We appreciate you guys. I'm watching all the streams and everything.

Yep, we appreciate it. We appreciate you guys. I'm watching all the streams and everything.

Yep. All right, everyone. Thank you so much for being here. Hopefully we'll be here at 2 Pacific tomorrow. We're not sure. And then if not Thursday, probably if not here from a remote location. So tomorrow's up in the air, but we'll put out a blast if we're going ahead tomorrow at 2 o'clock.

Yep. All right, everyone. Thank you so much for being here. Hopefully we'll be here at 2 Pacific tomorrow. We're not sure. And then if not Thursday, probably if not here from a remote location. So tomorrow's up in the air, but we'll put out a blast if we're going ahead tomorrow at 2 o'clock.

Hopefully see you then.

Hopefully see you then.

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We're going to talk a little soda gate today. First is with our friend Tom Renz. Of course, you know him as an attorney who's fighting for issues around freedom and fraud. And we have also Randy Bach. Dr. Randy Bach, we discussed things like COVID and some of the nonsense around Zika virus last time he was here. He's got some follow on for paid big soda distortions of influencers.

We're going to talk a little soda gate today. First is with our friend Tom Renz. Of course, you know him as an attorney who's fighting for issues around freedom and fraud. And we have also Randy Bach. Dr. Randy Bach, we discussed things like COVID and some of the nonsense around Zika virus last time he was here. He's got some follow on for paid big soda distortions of influencers.

Tom, I want to interrupt. I mean, I think everyone kind of understands that's where the rubber hits the road. My question is, who needs to hear, who needs to be pressured to find out why there is delays, why there's not some initiative, some movement in this direction?

Tom, I want to interrupt. I mean, I think everyone kind of understands that's where the rubber hits the road. My question is, who needs to hear, who needs to be pressured to find out why there is delays, why there's not some initiative, some movement in this direction?

So what is that FOIA information? Where is that? What is that? Is it emails? Is it court documents? What are we talking about?

So what is that FOIA information? Where is that? What is that? Is it emails? Is it court documents? What are we talking about?

Ridiculous. I'm a doctor for five months. Where the hell do you think I learned that? I'm just saying, you go to treatment before you kill people. I am a clinician. I observe things about these chemicals. Let's just deal with what's real. We used to get these calls on Loveline all the time. Educate adolescents and to prevent and to treat.

Ridiculous. I'm a doctor for five months. Where the hell do you think I learned that? I'm just saying, you go to treatment before you kill people. I am a clinician. I observe things about these chemicals. Let's just deal with what's real. We used to get these calls on Loveline all the time. Educate adolescents and to prevent and to treat.

So what is Project Salus?

So what is Project Salus?

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So I'm getting a little overwhelmed by all this because there are some sort of urgent things that he needs to do that I'm also confused why he hasn't done. Like, let's get pharmaceutical commercials off television. Let's figure out a way, for God's sakes, let's figure out a way to disentangle. What I keep saying is, look, in medicine...

So I'm getting a little overwhelmed by all this because there are some sort of urgent things that he needs to do that I'm also confused why he hasn't done. Like, let's get pharmaceutical commercials off television. Let's figure out a way, for God's sakes, let's figure out a way to disentangle. What I keep saying is, look, in medicine...

Yes, for decades, the pharmaceutical agents would come in and give gifts and trips and whatnot to doctors. For the last almost 20 years, certainly 15 years, we don't even let pharmaceutical reps into our office, certainly not in California. And they are not allowed to give us so much as a pen. For fear that it would distort our judgment or just doesn't look good. A pen. Forget anything else.

Yes, for decades, the pharmaceutical agents would come in and give gifts and trips and whatnot to doctors. For the last almost 20 years, certainly 15 years, we don't even let pharmaceutical reps into our office, certainly not in California. And they are not allowed to give us so much as a pen. For fear that it would distort our judgment or just doesn't look good. A pen. Forget anything else.

Well, I'll tell you, Doc, you let me do it. I'll come here and I'll make some big announcements coming up. But we're working with a couple different groups. We're looking at health holistically. Of course, you know, we're going to continue fighting the mRNA vaccines for truth and transparency. We want transparency on it. We just want to get to the real science. We want to quit with the lies.

Well, I'll tell you, Doc, you let me do it. I'll come here and I'll make some big announcements coming up. But we're working with a couple different groups. We're looking at health holistically. Of course, you know, we're going to continue fighting the mRNA vaccines for truth and transparency. We want transparency on it. We just want to get to the real science. We want to quit with the lies.

Yeah, well, I mean, there's actually... And I'm sorry I didn't have this in front of me, but I posted a little bit ago. There was actually... They found some... I want to say some enhancing enzymes or something that go along with that SV40 that were not even reported to be in the Pfizer vaccine. That came out, I believe it was a study out of Europe. I'd have to double check. And I apologize.

Yeah, well, I mean, there's actually... And I'm sorry I didn't have this in front of me, but I posted a little bit ago. There was actually... They found some... I want to say some enhancing enzymes or something that go along with that SV40 that were not even reported to be in the Pfizer vaccine. That came out, I believe it was a study out of Europe. I'd have to double check. And I apologize.

We're not having it on hand.

We're not having it on hand.

Yeah, promoter. So there's... evidence of a promoter. I can't remember who found it, but it was published somewhere. And it looks like this was intentional. I mean, you know, you and I have talked about this in terms of cancer. Well, you got SV40, possibly some promoters, the pseudouridine, all these things. Is this what's behind the turbo cancer? And you know, Doc, I've never, ever...

Yeah, promoter. So there's... evidence of a promoter. I can't remember who found it, but it was published somewhere. And it looks like this was intentional. I mean, you know, you and I have talked about this in terms of cancer. Well, you got SV40, possibly some promoters, the pseudouridine, all these things. Is this what's behind the turbo cancer? And you know, Doc, I've never, ever...

I'm a lawyer, not a doctor, right? So I read the science, I understand it, but I can't perform the science. But, you know, I've came on here and we've talked about it. I've got a 2006 document from the FDA saying, hey, these mRNA gene therapy type products have the potential to create cancer on the long term. Well, now we see these guys trying to push to get mRNA and the flu vaccine.

I'm a lawyer, not a doctor, right? So I read the science, I understand it, but I can't perform the science. But, you know, I've came on here and we've talked about it. I've got a 2006 document from the FDA saying, hey, these mRNA gene therapy type products have the potential to create cancer on the long term. Well, now we see these guys trying to push to get mRNA and the flu vaccine.

We still haven't had the 10 to 20-year look-back studies that we need to to determine whether these gene therapies are safe or effective or whether they do cause cancers and these sorts of things. But all the evidence is pointing to the fact that they do. And I will right here say, I will bet you any amount of money you want to bet

We still haven't had the 10 to 20-year look-back studies that we need to to determine whether these gene therapies are safe or effective or whether they do cause cancers and these sorts of things. But all the evidence is pointing to the fact that they do. And I will right here say, I will bet you any amount of money you want to bet

That over the next five years, I will very sadly, and I actually, I wish I was wrong on this. I'll be proven right on this cancer. I don't need, as a lawyer, I don't need to wait for a study. I've got beyond a reasonable doubt in terms of that. I got opposing party admissions. I've got their documents. I've got their papers. They don't admit to this stuff, you know, unless it's really happening.

That over the next five years, I will very sadly, and I actually, I wish I was wrong on this. I'll be proven right on this cancer. I don't need, as a lawyer, I don't need to wait for a study. I've got beyond a reasonable doubt in terms of that. I got opposing party admissions. I've got their documents. I've got their papers. They don't admit to this stuff, you know, unless it's really happening.

I mean, no one's going to say that this is a risk.

I mean, no one's going to say that this is a risk.

Well, I mean, the WHO's expecting, what was it, a 50% or 65% by 2030? Now, let me ask you this, Doc. Now, the WHO is predicting that sort of an increase in cancer. Well, if they're predicting that sort of an increase, there's a reason for it. Now, they're not being real forthcoming about why they think cancer is going to explode that much. but they're predicting it, right?

Well, I mean, the WHO's expecting, what was it, a 50% or 65% by 2030? Now, let me ask you this, Doc. Now, the WHO is predicting that sort of an increase in cancer. Well, if they're predicting that sort of an increase, there's a reason for it. Now, they're not being real forthcoming about why they think cancer is going to explode that much. but they're predicting it, right?

So what do they know that we don't? You know, what would cause, I mean, we've never had that sort of an explosion in cancer in human history. What's changed?

So what do they know that we don't? You know, what would cause, I mean, we've never had that sort of an explosion in cancer in human history. What's changed?

Uh, someone probably did ask why, you know, I didn't find anything that was all that conclusory, but I mean, you know, one of the things that they won't do is they won't, no one will touch or look at the fact that, you know, we've, we've mapped our whole genome, right?

Uh, someone probably did ask why, you know, I didn't find anything that was all that conclusory, but I mean, you know, one of the things that they won't do is they won't, no one will touch or look at the fact that, you know, we've, we've mapped our whole genome, right?

We've mapped the whole genome, but only 2% of our DNA, and you can correct me if I'm wrong on these numbers, but only 2% of our DNA codes for proteins. We don't know what the other 98% does. We have no idea what it's there for. So when we start inserting genetic material, well, maybe nothing, maybe something.

We've mapped the whole genome, but only 2% of our DNA, and you can correct me if I'm wrong on these numbers, but only 2% of our DNA codes for proteins. We don't know what the other 98% does. We have no idea what it's there for. So when we start inserting genetic material, well, maybe nothing, maybe something.

But when we start inserting genetic material that may or may not interact, what's going on there? And we also know even if that genetic material does not have SV4 to promoters and things like it where it may reintegrate back into the DNA, even if it doesn't, What we do know is there's a number of studies, and I actually have them on my other screen right here.

But when we start inserting genetic material that may or may not interact, what's going on there? And we also know even if that genetic material does not have SV4 to promoters and things like it where it may reintegrate back into the DNA, even if it doesn't, What we do know is there's a number of studies, and I actually have them on my other screen right here.

I was looking at them to prep for this interview. A number of studies suggesting that the spike protein itself is a pathogen. It crosses the blood-brain barrier. Oh, no doubt in my mind.

I was looking at them to prep for this interview. A number of studies suggesting that the spike protein itself is a pathogen. It crosses the blood-brain barrier. Oh, no doubt in my mind.

I mean, I can give you 14 trillion reasons in the United States alone. There's $14 trillion that changed hands in the United States alone based on COVID. I mean, so the amount of money there, the control, the power, and you know, I mean, there's conspiracy theories out there.

I mean, I can give you 14 trillion reasons in the United States alone. There's $14 trillion that changed hands in the United States alone based on COVID. I mean, so the amount of money there, the control, the power, and you know, I mean, there's conspiracy theories out there.

And I'm not going to discount them at this point because if you would allow children to be exposed to something that can kill them, With absolutely no benefit. I mean, there were no healthy children that died from COVID during the pandemic. Virtually, yes.

And I'm not going to discount them at this point because if you would allow children to be exposed to something that can kill them, With absolutely no benefit. I mean, there were no healthy children that died from COVID during the pandemic. Virtually, yes.

But, Doc, let me ask you this. If you would allow... If you would allow that, if you would support that, if you would promote something that has no known benefit and loads of risks in children, right, for money, because you get more money out of it. What ethical standards do you have? So when you say, what's the motivation? Well, it's money. They don't care about anything else.

But, Doc, let me ask you this. If you would allow... If you would allow that, if you would support that, if you would promote something that has no known benefit and loads of risks in children, right, for money, because you get more money out of it. What ethical standards do you have? So when you say, what's the motivation? Well, it's money. They don't care about anything else.

They don't care about the results. And what would be too low for someone like that? So if you're someone who knows there's no benefit, loads of risk, but you get a big fat check if you promote it. and yet you promote it anyways, then you've demonstrated to me that you have no ethical standards. So what's too low? What's too low for someone that'll risk a child's life?

They don't care about the results. And what would be too low for someone like that? So if you're someone who knows there's no benefit, loads of risk, but you get a big fat check if you promote it. and yet you promote it anyways, then you've demonstrated to me that you have no ethical standards. So what's too low? What's too low for someone that'll risk a child's life?

Yeah, well, and one of the most foundational issues here is that medical school has gone from teaching doctors to think critically and find solutions for their patients to checking boxes and to lining up the drug with the... Yes, you're singing my tune.

Yeah, well, and one of the most foundational issues here is that medical school has gone from teaching doctors to think critically and find solutions for their patients to checking boxes and to lining up the drug with the... Yes, you're singing my tune.

My wife has... We actually, just today, actually a few hours ago, we got the PATH report from her final, what I hope will be her final surgery related. She had stage four cancer. I believe we've beat it, right? We've beat that cancer, and I'm going to tell you something.

My wife has... We actually, just today, actually a few hours ago, we got the PATH report from her final, what I hope will be her final surgery related. She had stage four cancer. I believe we've beat it, right? We've beat that cancer, and I'm going to tell you something.

I have had to fight harder to get adequate care, not great care, not perfect care, but adequate care in the world of oncology for my wife than almost anything I've ever had to fight. Now, Doc... These oncologists are wonderful people. I've met some wonderful oncologists. But if it's not in the NCCN handbook, it can't possibly be right. And it doesn't matter how much evidence you present.

I have had to fight harder to get adequate care, not great care, not perfect care, but adequate care in the world of oncology for my wife than almost anything I've ever had to fight. Now, Doc... These oncologists are wonderful people. I've met some wonderful oncologists. But if it's not in the NCCN handbook, it can't possibly be right. And it doesn't matter how much evidence you present.

Terrible. Well, and I mean, listen, our federal government is carrying both the carrot and the stick. And you know this as a doctor better than anybody. And I've described this in testimony before all sorts of legislatures. When you go to the doctor, the doctor-patient relationship is number four.

Terrible. Well, and I mean, listen, our federal government is carrying both the carrot and the stick. And you know this as a doctor better than anybody. And I've described this in testimony before all sorts of legislatures. When you go to the doctor, the doctor-patient relationship is number four.

You start out with the doctor-hospital relationship, the doctor-insurer relationship, and the doctor-regulator relationship. Once you get through those, then the doctor can start considering the patient. But the doctor doesn't even have authority To properly care for a patient.

You start out with the doctor-hospital relationship, the doctor-insurer relationship, and the doctor-regulator relationship. Once you get through those, then the doctor can start considering the patient. But the doctor doesn't even have authority To properly care for a patient.

Doc, in 2019, prior to COVID, I was pro-vax, pro-medical everything. I had no clue. All of this, all of this came from me following the evidence when they overplayed their hands so greatly on COVID. Right.

Doc, in 2019, prior to COVID, I was pro-vax, pro-medical everything. I had no clue. All of this, all of this came from me following the evidence when they overplayed their hands so greatly on COVID. Right.

Get it to the patients with informed consent, real informed consent. Oh, true informed consent.

Get it to the patients with informed consent, real informed consent. Oh, true informed consent.

So there's that. And then don't punish the doctor for speaking truth or, you know, I mean, medical freedom. Let the doctors have free speech to speak what they think. For 2025, I mean, listen, the fight is continuing. One of the things that we're looking at are some of the environmental factors in health. I mean, there's a lot of environmental. Of course, we did the mRNA in the food supply.

So there's that. And then don't punish the doctor for speaking truth or, you know, I mean, medical freedom. Let the doctors have free speech to speak what they think. For 2025, I mean, listen, the fight is continuing. One of the things that we're looking at are some of the environmental factors in health. I mean, there's a lot of environmental. Of course, we did the mRNA in the food supply.

We now have licensed DNA vaccines in the food supply. I don't know if you're aware of that. We have all sorts of things. So we're looking at food supply. We're looking at air quality, water quality, some of these different things, all these things that affect health. And what we're going to do is we're going to kind of expand this fight a little bit further. And we're going to keep pushing.

We now have licensed DNA vaccines in the food supply. I don't know if you're aware of that. We have all sorts of things. So we're looking at food supply. We're looking at air quality, water quality, some of these different things, all these things that affect health. And what we're going to do is we're going to kind of expand this fight a little bit further. And we're going to keep pushing.

We got the Tom Wren show we do because that's the best way to get the word out. You know, I mean, you know, we're... Where, when? The time-run show is every day. We run it on X. We run it on Rumble. We run it locals. Sometimes Facebook lets us run it. They're getting a little bit better right now. So anywhere that we can, we run that show every day.

We got the Tom Wren show we do because that's the best way to get the word out. You know, I mean, you know, we're... Where, when? The time-run show is every day. We run it on X. We run it on Rumble. We run it locals. Sometimes Facebook lets us run it. They're getting a little bit better right now. So anywhere that we can, we run that show every day.

And then, of course, when we got big news, we come on big shows like this. So we're going to keep doing that. We're looking at the litigation that we're going to be managing or coordinating or facilitating this year. And there's going to be some big ones. Right now, we're looking at a...

And then, of course, when we got big news, we come on big shows like this. So we're going to keep doing that. We're looking at the litigation that we're going to be managing or coordinating or facilitating this year. And there's going to be some big ones. Right now, we're looking at a...

We've got a major initiative that we're looking at related to some of the stuff that we're seeing in the air right now. There's a lot of crazy things happening in the skies and in the air, and they're a little bit more credible than people think. So I'm going to tease with that a little bit, but we'll be back with some big news on it soon.

We've got a major initiative that we're looking at related to some of the stuff that we're seeing in the air right now. There's a lot of crazy things happening in the skies and in the air, and they're a little bit more credible than people think. So I'm going to tease with that a little bit, but we'll be back with some big news on it soon.

Glad to be here, Drew. How are you doing today?

Glad to be here, Drew. How are you doing today?

That's it, right? So this has been kind of portrayed, I think, oversimplified in a lot of ways. Now, transhumanism, when it comes to rewiring a paralyzed guy's spine so that he can walk again, that's awesome, right? Helping a blind person see, that's an amazing thing, and that's a good thing. And that's what we hear about when we talk about transhumanism.

That's it, right? So this has been kind of portrayed, I think, oversimplified in a lot of ways. Now, transhumanism, when it comes to rewiring a paralyzed guy's spine so that he can walk again, that's awesome, right? Helping a blind person see, that's an amazing thing, and that's a good thing. And that's what we hear about when we talk about transhumanism.

Now, there's another side of it, though, right? The other side of it is things like AI integration with your consciousness, right? Now, that sounds like science fiction. I mean, it sounds absurd.

Now, there's another side of it, though, right? The other side of it is things like AI integration with your consciousness, right? Now, that sounds like science fiction. I mean, it sounds absurd.

But the reality is that we already have a number of instances where people are using, Elon Musk is working on, for example, a number of different technologies where someone can move a cursor with their mind and interact with a computer with their mind. Our military has been doing that for a long time.

But the reality is that we already have a number of instances where people are using, Elon Musk is working on, for example, a number of different technologies where someone can move a cursor with their mind and interact with a computer with their mind. Our military has been doing that for a long time.

The problem is if you can think and move a computer, that means that you have two-way communication. It's both reading your thoughts and you're providing thoughts to it, right? So it's two ways. You're hearing from them. It's hearing from you. That creates a situation that's very, very dangerous, right?

The problem is if you can think and move a computer, that means that you have two-way communication. It's both reading your thoughts and you're providing thoughts to it, right? So it's two ways. You're hearing from them. It's hearing from you. That creates a situation that's very, very dangerous, right?

And the ethics of this are phenomenal, phenomenally important anyways, because at the end of the day, Anything that can read your mind can read whatever is in there. What's to stop it from reading your most private, your most intimate thoughts? You know, the things that you don't want anybody to know. What's to stop that?

And the ethics of this are phenomenal, phenomenally important anyways, because at the end of the day, Anything that can read your mind can read whatever is in there. What's to stop it from reading your most private, your most intimate thoughts? You know, the things that you don't want anybody to know. What's to stop that?

Yeah, there's no question. I mean, they've already found out that we're predictable. People are predictable. If you think the same way every time, this goes back to the roots of psychology, conditioned response and unconditioned response and those sorts of things that you know a lot better than me. Especially as an addiction guy, you know that stuff. But we are predictable.

Yeah, there's no question. I mean, they've already found out that we're predictable. People are predictable. If you think the same way every time, this goes back to the roots of psychology, conditioned response and unconditioned response and those sorts of things that you know a lot better than me. Especially as an addiction guy, you know that stuff. But we are predictable.

When you combine that predictability with the fact that they can now actually, without any sort of a physical intervention, they can actually still read your thoughts. That's right. This is the most terrifying threat to privacy that humanity's ever faced. We've never had a time in history where you could actually read someone's mind with some semblance of accuracy. And where does that take us?

When you combine that predictability with the fact that they can now actually, without any sort of a physical intervention, they can actually still read your thoughts. That's right. This is the most terrifying threat to privacy that humanity's ever faced. We've never had a time in history where you could actually read someone's mind with some semblance of accuracy. And where does that take us?

I think that transhumanism, we have to first make it part of the public lexicon. And then we have to start addressing this because the tech is here. The ethics and the law are not.

I think that transhumanism, we have to first make it part of the public lexicon. And then we have to start addressing this because the tech is here. The ethics and the law are not.

Well, and I would ask this, Doc. I mean, think about this. If you can read my thoughts, if you can put something on or near your head and they can pick up those subtle brainwaves and then decipher them, Well, if they can read it, they should be able to write it, right? So you've got a two-way communication.

Well, and I would ask this, Doc. I mean, think about this. If you can read my thoughts, if you can put something on or near your head and they can pick up those subtle brainwaves and then decipher them, Well, if they can read it, they should be able to write it, right? So you've got a two-way communication.

I mean, I'm not very good at it, but I'm a lawyer, right? So, you know, what they've done is they've taken- Implying you're not good at much?

I mean, I'm not very good at it, but I'm a lawyer, right? So, you know, what they've done is they've taken- Implying you're not good at much?

Or what are we- Well, I'm just saying that, you know, my job's to persuade. I may not be very good at it, but I try, right? So if you think of some of the conversations that we've had, right? So we've talked, you know, you and I have debated back and forth about the mRNA jabs and all these different things, right? Well, I was working to persuade you.

Or what are we- Well, I'm just saying that, you know, my job's to persuade. I may not be very good at it, but I try, right? So if you think of some of the conversations that we've had, right? So we've talked, you know, you and I have debated back and forth about the mRNA jabs and all these different things, right? Well, I was working to persuade you.

Now, imagine an AI system that's infinitely more brilliant than you or I, that has all the data in the world, and it can just whisper in your ear 24-7. You will listen to that. You will become convinced of whatever it wants to convince you of. And also, you might even get to a point where they can implant memories. They're talking about implanting memories that may not be your own.

Now, imagine an AI system that's infinitely more brilliant than you or I, that has all the data in the world, and it can just whisper in your ear 24-7. You will listen to that. You will become convinced of whatever it wants to convince you of. And also, you might even get to a point where they can implant memories. They're talking about implanting memories that may not be your own.

You wouldn't even be able to distinguish reality. We have got to get the law and the ethics caught up a little bit with the technology. But most people, when I talk about this, they think you're a conspiracy theorist. They think it's insane.

You wouldn't even be able to distinguish reality. We have got to get the law and the ethics caught up a little bit with the technology. But most people, when I talk about this, they think you're a conspiracy theorist. They think it's insane.

It's there.

It's there.

Yeah, I mean, there's no question. And that mass formation, psychosis or hypnosis, it's been called a lot of things. That convinced us that these work, right? Now, the idea that this is somehow going to prevent transmission of a virus is patently absurd. A respiratory virus.

Yeah, I mean, there's no question. And that mass formation, psychosis or hypnosis, it's been called a lot of things. That convinced us that these work, right? Now, the idea that this is somehow going to prevent transmission of a virus is patently absurd. A respiratory virus.

I can put my finger behind it. And somehow that's going to prevent – that was patently absurd. So was the idea that walking the same direction in a grocery store would somehow make a difference. But yet we all believed it. Now imagine if that same argument is made by something that you can't even begin to debate with because of the knowledge-based intelligence. And, you know, when we combine AI –

I can put my finger behind it. And somehow that's going to prevent – that was patently absurd. So was the idea that walking the same direction in a grocery store would somehow make a difference. But yet we all believed it. Now imagine if that same argument is made by something that you can't even begin to debate with because of the knowledge-based intelligence. And, you know, when we combine AI –

with the capacity for two-way communication with the brain, and this transhumanist thing is really something we need to be having a very, very open conversation on. The law is so far behind, it's not even close to protecting us in this. And it's honestly a disaster right now.

with the capacity for two-way communication with the brain, and this transhumanist thing is really something we need to be having a very, very open conversation on. The law is so far behind, it's not even close to protecting us in this. And it's honestly a disaster right now.

Yeah, I think we're going to need legislation. You know, I mean, we're going to have to recognize... Yeah, some of this will probably be done through litigation or regulation, but we will need legislation. You know, we got a couple amendments that protect privacy, sort of, kind of, you know, the quartering, the papers, the stuff like that, the third, fourth amendment.

Yeah, I think we're going to need legislation. You know, I mean, we're going to have to recognize... Yeah, some of this will probably be done through litigation or regulation, but we will need legislation. You know, we got a couple amendments that protect privacy, sort of, kind of, you know, the quartering, the papers, the stuff like that, the third, fourth amendment.

But the problem is, you know, in the 1700s, our founding fathers would never have been able to even conceive of this sort of a situation. Now, you're not allowed to access someone's papers... you know, without a warrant. But given the accuracy, the algorithms and their ability to predict your behavior just based on what you do on the internet,

But the problem is, you know, in the 1700s, our founding fathers would never have been able to even conceive of this sort of a situation. Now, you're not allowed to access someone's papers... you know, without a warrant. But given the accuracy, the algorithms and their ability to predict your behavior just based on what you do on the internet,

Well, let me ask the question, what's a greater threat to your privacy? You know, walking into your house and trying to find a piece of paper where you've written down what you're going to do or tracking everything that you do. And then based on an algorithm that gives you, you know, 90, 95% confidence interval, you know, about what you're going to do, you know, creating prediction models.

Well, let me ask the question, what's a greater threat to your privacy? You know, walking into your house and trying to find a piece of paper where you've written down what you're going to do or tracking everything that you do. And then based on an algorithm that gives you, you know, 90, 95% confidence interval, you know, about what you're going to do, you know, creating prediction models.

I mean, right now, yeah, it's terrifying. So it's something that I think that's one of the top issues going forward.

I mean, right now, yeah, it's terrifying. So it's something that I think that's one of the top issues going forward.

Well, I'm in talks with a couple different people to do a couple different things that I'm almost ready to make some announcements on. So some of that stuff I can't say.

Well, I'm in talks with a couple different people to do a couple different things that I'm almost ready to make some announcements on. So some of that stuff I can't say.