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Should We Fear Transhumanism? w/ Tom Renz & Brandon Weichert – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 440
Sun, 05 Jan 2025
Tom Renz is an attorney from Ohio conducting ‘Lawfare for Freedom’ by fighting corruption surrounding the COVID-19 pandemic at state and federal levels. Find out more at https://renz-law.com and follow him at https://x.com/RenzTom Brandon Weichert is a former Congressional staffer and geopolitical analyst who is a contributor at The Washington Times, the Asia Times, and is a 19FortyFive Senior Editor. He is the author of Winning Space: How America Remains a Superpower (Republic Book Publishers), Biohacked: China’s Race to Control Life (Encounter Books), and The Shadow War: Iran’s Quest for Supremacy. Weichert occasionally serves as a Subject Matter Expert for the United States Department of Defense and other academic and private sector organizations. Follow him at https://TheWeichertReport.com and at https://x.com/WeTheBrandon. Read his book “Biohacked: China’s Race to Control Life” at https://amzn.to/3DBZQeB 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 Find out more about the brands that make this show possible and get special discounts on Dr. Drew's favorite products at https://drdrew.com/sponsors • FATTY15 – The future of essential fatty acids is here! Strengthen your cells against age-related breakdown with Fatty15. Get 15% off a 90-day Starter Kit Subscription at https://drdrew.com/fatty15 • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at https://drdrew.com/paleovalley • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at https://twc.health/drew 「 MEDICAL NOTE 」 Portions of this program may examine countervailing views on important medical issues. Always consult your physician before making any decisions about your health. 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (https://kalebnation.com) and Susan Pinsky (https://twitter.com/firstladyoflove). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: Who are the guests in this episode?
Happy New Year, everyone. Welcome back. So good to be here. It's a pleasure. We have two great guests today. Tom Renz, attorney. He is all shocks from Ohio. He'll let us know about that. Lawfare for Freedom, fighting corruption, surrounding amongst other things, COVID-19 pandemic at both the state and the federal level. You're going to find out more at TomRenz.com. Follow him on X at RenzTom.
Also, we have Brandon Weikert. I should have asked him to make sure I'm pronouncing his name correctly. I always try to check that out. We're going to talk a little transhumanism. We're going to talk a little bit... Tom's got something to say about that as well.
But Brandon has got his finger on the pulse of really so many of the shifting winds, the shifting sands that have us all very nervous about the international scene, what's going on with the dollar, what's going on with... you know, the international relations that are fluid at the present moment. He is an expert. He comes from as a congressional staffer. He'll be with us after this.
Both of them join me in one minute. Our laws as it pertain to substances are draconian and bizarre. Psychopaths start this. He was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography, PTSD, love addiction, fentanyl and heroin. Ridiculous. I'm a doctor. Where the hell do you think I learned that? I'm just saying, you go to treatment before you kill people. I am a clinician.
I observe things about these chemicals. Let's just deal with what's real. We used to get these calls on Loveline all the time. Educate adolescents and to prevent and to treat. If you have trouble, you can't stop and you want help stopping, I can help. I got a lot to say. I got a lot more to say.
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Chapter 2: What is transhumanism and why should we care?
Well, and I would ask this, Doc. I mean, think about this. If you can read my thoughts, if you can put something on or near your head and they can pick up those subtle brainwaves and then decipher them, Well, if they can read it, they should be able to write it, right? So you've got a two-way communication.
Now, the thing that may be more- But that's happening. I'm going to tell you that that's the thing people don't get. It's happening. They are persuading and adjusting and moving. Maybe not with the skill that they'll have one day, but it's already amongst us. It exists.
I mean, I'm not very good at it, but I'm a lawyer, right? So, you know, what they've done is they've taken- Implying you're not good at much?
Is that you're playing you're not good at much? You're good only at persuasion?
Or what are we- Well, I'm just saying that, you know, my job's to persuade. I may not be very good at it, but I try, right? So if you think of some of the conversations that we've had, right? So we've talked, you know, you and I have debated back and forth about the mRNA jabs and all these different things, right? Well, I was working to persuade you.
Now, imagine an AI system that's infinitely more brilliant than you or I, that has all the data in the world, and it can just whisper in your ear 24-7. You will listen to that. You will become convinced of whatever it wants to convince you of. And also, you might even get to a point where they can implant memories. They're talking about implanting memories that may not be your own.
You wouldn't even be able to distinguish reality. We have got to get the law and the ethics caught up a little bit with the technology. But most people, when I talk about this, they think you're a conspiracy theorist. They think it's insane.
We have the documents.
It's there.
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Chapter 3: What are the ethical concerns surrounding transhumanism?
Did you see that there was some Pfizer data today that came out suggesting, oh, shocking, there's DNA contamination at a level that had been previously denied, and that, two, there was some distribution of liquid nanoparticle sort of admission that, oh, yeah, it goes everywhere. So it's slowly trickling out what has always been called quackery and nonsense and conspiracy theory. So here it comes.
Yeah, well, I mean, there's actually... And I'm sorry I didn't have this in front of me, but I posted a little bit ago. There was actually... They found some... I want to say some enhancing enzymes or something that go along with that SV40 that were not even reported to be in the Pfizer vaccine. That came out, I believe it was a study out of Europe. I'd have to double check. And I apologize.
We're not having it on hand.
So like a promoter locus. Yeah. Interesting.
Yeah, promoter. So there's... evidence of a promoter. I can't remember who found it, but it was published somewhere. And it looks like this was intentional. I mean, you know, you and I have talked about this in terms of cancer. Well, you got SV40, possibly some promoters, the pseudouridine, all these things. Is this what's behind the turbo cancer? And you know, Doc, I've never, ever...
I'm a lawyer, not a doctor, right? So I read the science, I understand it, but I can't perform the science. But, you know, I've came on here and we've talked about it. I've got a 2006 document from the FDA saying, hey, these mRNA gene therapy type products have the potential to create cancer on the long term. Well, now we see these guys trying to push to get mRNA and the flu vaccine.
We still haven't had the 10 to 20-year look-back studies that we need to to determine whether these gene therapies are safe or effective or whether they do cause cancers and these sorts of things. But all the evidence is pointing to the fact that they do. And I will right here say, I will bet you any amount of money you want to bet
That over the next five years, I will very sadly, and I actually, I wish I was wrong on this. I'll be proven right on this cancer. I don't need, as a lawyer, I don't need to wait for a study. I've got beyond a reasonable doubt in terms of that. I got opposing party admissions. I've got their documents. I've got their papers. They don't admit to this stuff, you know, unless it's really happening.
I mean, no one's going to say that this is a risk.
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Chapter 4: How does technology influence our thoughts?
Yeah, well, and one of the most foundational issues here is that medical school has gone from teaching doctors to think critically and find solutions for their patients to checking boxes and to lining up the drug with the... Yes, you're singing my tune.
I don't know what to do about that because it's... Your wife, go ahead.
My wife has... We actually, just today, actually a few hours ago, we got the PATH report from her final, what I hope will be her final surgery related. She had stage four cancer. I believe we've beat it, right? We've beat that cancer, and I'm going to tell you something.
I have had to fight harder to get adequate care, not great care, not perfect care, but adequate care in the world of oncology for my wife than almost anything I've ever had to fight. Now, Doc... These oncologists are wonderful people. I've met some wonderful oncologists. But if it's not in the NCCN handbook, it can't possibly be right. And it doesn't matter how much evidence you present.
Yeah, this is what I'm struggling with. I'm struggling with the fact that there are some well-trained people, some bright people, certainly some well-meaning people, but they're so into the algorithms that they are not prone to thinking autonomously. Or they're certainly, much the way you were talking about the companies only interested in money, they're not being encouraged in any way.
They're not being motivated. They're being persuaded the other way. Just follow the electronic medical record. And because they're employees, a lot of them, they get roundly crushed for being careful and thoughtful and taking time.
Terrible. Well, and I mean, listen, our federal government is carrying both the carrot and the stick. And you know this as a doctor better than anybody. And I've described this in testimony before all sorts of legislatures. When you go to the doctor, the doctor-patient relationship is number four.
You start out with the doctor-hospital relationship, the doctor-insurer relationship, and the doctor-regulator relationship. Once you get through those, then the doctor can start considering the patient. But the doctor doesn't even have authority To properly care for a patient.
Did you know this? Did you know this before you got into all this? I mean, how long, say five years ago, did you know that?
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Chapter 5: What is the relationship between transhumanism and privacy?
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All right, so next up, my next guest, again, is Brandon Weikert. He has a book about China, which I know interests Susan greatly. The book is called, I think it's called Biohack. Did I get that right? But let's welcome Brandon to the program. And unfortunately, I can't see anything. Hello. Is Brandon there? Okay, Brandon?
Hello. Hello. How you doing?
Hi there. I'm doing good. Thank you for being with us again. I have no return video-wise for some reason, but that's okay. I don't have to have that. So talk to me first about Biohacked.
Well, I wrote the book about a year ago, and it was the unofficial story of how China basically developed a bioweapons called COVID-19 doing gain-of-function research on in conjunction or rather with support of the U.S. government.
Now, I should point out to your audience, and some of you might be going, well, I already know this, but I actually was one of the original three guys who actually had, because I consult with the Defense Department, I had people on the inside telling me, From the State Department, telling me from DIA, telling me from Marine Corps Intelligence, this was a biological 9-11.
They were telling me this in December of 2019 going into January of 2020. So when it was just an epidemic in China. barely being reported on. I was trying to get people in the West to pay attention to my reporting. I was actually censored. My original Twitter was canceled or permanently banned because I was reporting this. And I couldn't even get some of my friends in right-wing communities
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Chapter 6: What upcoming issues should we expect in 2025?
What we've experienced with COVID is a result of this lack of regulation and oversight of things like DARPA.
Yeah. That seems like a very viable assessment. There's a research paper right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. mRNA vaccines, I'm not surprised. But let me, since I'm talking to a knowledgeable person about these things, what is your theory on what, I forget what, Caleb, maybe you can probably help me on this. Bob, what's his name, that went to Area 51 and was held there to do experiments on cesium.
Bob Lazar or Bob Lazar. Bob Lazar, Bob Lazar.
Bob Lazar. What is your theory about Bob Lazar? I'm just curious since we're just treading into this territory.
I have no specific opinion on him. I've seen him. I'm aware of him. What I'm more interested in, though, is the technology itself. I do not believe it's little green men from Zeta Reticuli. I think that this is technology that we probably absorbed from the Nazis at the end of the Second World War and for 80 years have been playing around with it in the desert under highly compartmented conditions.
scenario, and I think that we do have anti-gravity on some level, and I think a lot of the systems we're seeing are tests. There's a reason you're seeing these orbs, for instance, or the cigar type, the gimbal video from the USS Roosevelt. These were all in restricted military airspaces off the coast of California or Virginia. They were encountered by U.S.
military personnel because that's where you would be conducting these kinds of tests. I do not believe for a second that these are aliens. I think that our government is testing systems.
That makes sense to me perfectly. And Bob Lazar, I tell you what my theory is, because here's the one headline in the Bob Lazar story that makes me go, and that is they pick him up off the street of Las Vegas. They have clandestine meetings with this marginal physicist that didn't finish at MIT.
And they're going to take that guy and have him analyze the most important finding in the history of physics. That's the guy you pick to analyze this anti-gravity system. But if you were doing a psychological operation to see how another country might dismantle us. our anti-gravity system. Now I'm interested in Bob Lazar.
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Chapter 7: How is COVID-19 related to bioweapons?
coordinated rollout that is obfuscating rather than enlightening the truth of the matter got it that makes that all makes perfect sense to me what do you imagine is going to be different with the new administration and how is that going to show up in uh specifically though what what way Well, I guess in this area of transparency is what I was thinking about.
And you mentioned all the counterintelligence people. And I started thinking about Tulsi Gabbard and what's going to happen when she is in charge. Are they going to let that happen? And how is this all going to kind of shake out? What do you imagine? I feel like it's going to be a different world in two or three years.
I think that Trump will generally be successful, but I think that a lot of the MAGA people who think that it's going to be revolutionary, I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think it's going to be that revolutionary. The first term already showed how Trump is tamed by the deep state. They're already gearing up to tame him again. I heard your last segment, and I agree with you.
He needs to have a very wide depth of personnel picks in place that will be able to carry on his legacy beyond his four years. He's really going to get maybe two years, his first two years. I would say probably his first 100 days if he's lucky. That's if they don't kill him before he takes power. But, you know, which could very well happen on January 20th.
I'm very concerned about the inauguration. But if he survives the inauguration, he's got 100 days to really make some moves. And so I think he will be successful in getting peace with Russia on Ukraine. I think he will probably be successful in laying the groundwork for a long-term containment strategy on China. I think he will deport the first half million of serious illegal immigrant criminals.
But I do not believe we're going to get massive numbers of illegals beyond that deported. I also think we'll probably start getting because he's starting to listen to the GOP establishment. So I'm sure God help. I hope he's I hope he doesn't. But I have a feeling we're going to start hearing comprehensive immigration reform news. out of his mouth within the next two years.
I think there's going to be some tempering by year two of some of the stuff that maybe you and I would have preferred him doing. I do think he'll be a successful president. I think he will be transparent on certain things, but I think overall, I don't know how transparent. And the thing that I'm watching out for right now is I really do believe we are rolling right into a war with Iran.
probably an air war. But I think that he's going to stabilize the situation with Russia, probably stabilize the situation with North Korea, probably keep the Chinese thing on ice. But in terms of Iran, that regime is not going to last the next four years. They're gone in four years, which then sets up a bigger problem for us because Iran's terrible.
But the bigger problem is Turkey is moving into the region and that's a NATO partner, supposedly. And we might be, you know, butting heads with them, not just diplomatically, but in theater, in combat with Turkey. So I don't know how Trump's going to manage that. Transparency, though, I think we will get probably 50-50. We'll probably find out more about the JFK assassination, for instance.
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Chapter 8: What are the implications of gene editing technology?
And it made it seem more and more realistic, more and more realistic. And then the government then uses that as a way of saying, oh, well, it's just a bunch of people that don't know what they're talking about to cover up the original. Which was they were testing something in the air. It's not aliens.
I actually think that they lost radioactive material. And I think that they were trying to find it. The fact that every official military person on TV or in even alternate media was like, no, it can't possibly be. That sort of told me that, well, maybe there is something to that. Because I think that a lot of those drones you were seeing were Department of Energy nuclear sniffers.
And so I would be very worried about January 20th in D.C. I will not. I have friends going to inauguration activities. I've been invited to some. My wife and I are not traveling anywhere near D.C. until long after Trump is sworn in.
That's, I guess, my other question related to that is that, you know, with the latest, those two terrorist attacks that were, I believe that was yesterday.
They're just the start.
Right. Well, specifically the one that happened over in front of the Trump Hotel in Vegas, that was a cyber truck that blew up and, you know... Looking at that, now they're saying, oh, it looks like it was just a guy that was committing suicide. But it seems like such a direct message to put a Tesla Cybertruck in front of a Trump hotel.
If you're committing suicide, it's an act of aggression. And sometimes you want to make that aggression apparent. You would not pick a Cybertruck because the windows didn't even blow out of the damn thing. That wouldn't have the effect on anybody else.
All I know is that I have heard, and I'm just repeating what I've heard, is that the gentleman's wife had very anti-Trump comments on her social media. And if you look at the choice of a Tesla Cybertruck and Trump Hotel... There does seem to be some indication, if those reports are true about his politics, that possibly this was some kind of, you know, flipping of the bird to Elon and Trump.
I don't know though.
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