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Wild Crime: Because They're Mine | S4 Ep. 3

Tue, 25 Feb 2025

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Israel Keyes, confesses to raping and killing the barista, torturing and killing a married couple in Vermont, raping the wife as well. Is his story true? Vermont cops search for evidence, while the FBI asks him: who else have you killed? Originally Aired: 12/05/24 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Chapter 1: What is the focus of Wild Crime: Because They're Mine?

3.055 - 15.179 Deborah Roberts

Hi, it's Deborah Roberts, co-anchor of 2020. You're about to hear the third installment of our four-part series, Wild Crime, 11 Skulls. Here's episode three, Because They're Mine.

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29.784 - 49.553 Unknown Speaker

Israel Keyes had confessed to Samantha Koenig. He knew that there were going to be consequences. And he made it pretty clear to us that he was willing to talk about more. He'd identified that there was a couple in Vermont that something similar had happened to.

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Chapter 2: Who were the victims and what was Israel Keyes' confession?

51.294 - 58.297 Unknown Speaker

We were shocked. I think the initial reaction was a shock that it's a couple, that it's not a single person, but that it's a couple.

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60.379 - 73.628 Unknown Speaker

We immediately start Googling and trying to figure out who this couple could be, and we very quickly identify the couriers. But he's had some demands.

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76.423 - 92.076 Israel Keyes

As soon as I started talking to you, I knew I was never getting out. I'm not Bubba from the sticks who sat in one town for all my life. I've been lots of places, I've done lots of things, and I'd rather go out while I still have some good memories.

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Israel Keyes had indicated how he wanted the death penalty. He wanted it quickly. He would be willing to talk with us as long as we were clear on what his goal was and we could help facilitate that.

Chapter 3: How did the authorities approach the investigation?

140.885 - 153.716 Bob Drew

My name is Bob Drew. In 2011, I was assigned to the Behavioral Analysis Unit. Our goal is to provide behavioral insight into unusual or repetitive crimes.

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155.137 - 161.981 Unknown Speaker

We look at the offense and try to determine personality traits and characteristics of the offender.

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162.941 - 185.462 Israel Keyes

I don't really consider myself all that different or all that special from hundreds of thousands of other people. All you have to do is type in a word search on any given porn site and there's all kinds of people who have fantasies about rape and bondage and... kinds of things that I take to another level.

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Israel Keyes has sadistic sexual fantasies that involve rape and murder that are very ingrained in him.

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Israel Keyes told us that if he told us the things that he did, there was no jury in the United States that would not convict him to death, that every jury in the US would give him a death penalty.

Chapter 4: What were the circumstances of the Curriers' disappearance?

211.55 - 223.184 Unknown Speaker

Police are searching for a couple from Essex and they're calling their disappearance suspicious. Bill and Lorraine Currier. I walked around the neighborhood.

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232.415 - 253.694 Israel Keyes

After I found that house and decided that it was probably an older couple, just because of the way they had their backyard set up. They had like a swimming pool and a deck and a barbecue. It just looked like a, you know, like older couple that didn't have kids. So I knew there was probably only one room in the house that was being used as the bedroom.

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254.615 - 258.959 Unknown Speaker

He was looking for the circumstances that would line up well for him to take someone.

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Chapter 5: How did Israel Keyes describe his actions and motivations?

275.714 - 316.868 Israel Keyes

I cut the phone lines because usually if there's an alarm system, it'll trigger the alarm. The neighbor next door, he was still up. He kept coming out smoking. I held off for quite a while before I actually broke into the garage. It was like a blitz attack. I was probably in the bedroom within five or six seconds.

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318.749 - 324.471 Israel Keyes

I had them roll over on their stomachs, and I told them to keep their faces down on the pillow and not look at anything.

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And after they had done that, I restrained their wrists. Well, they kept trying to ask me. I didn't tell them what was happening.

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339.881 - 344.265 Israel Keyes

Anytime I was in the room, there were never any lights on. Just your headlight. Right.

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345.146 - 348.368 Unknown Speaker

It's a way to control the victims because you're blinding them.

348.388 - 361.36 Israel Keyes

They were wondering what was going on. I just told them it was a kidnap for ransom set up and that there were other people involved in it. I think they thought it was a case of mistaken identity or something. I was just bullshitting them.

364.56 - 379.91 Unknown Speaker

He knows what's coming. He has a plan to kill them. He went in with this plan to kill them. Part of fooling them and making them think that there's hope feeds his sadistic nature and his sadistic fantasies as well.

382.833 - 395.066 Israel Keyes

once I had him in the car. I had her in the front seat. Her hands were behind her back. I had cable ties on them. We had cable ties on her feet too. Was he in the back? Yeah, he was in the back on the passenger side.

406.772 - 434.743 Bob Drew

He's driving around with the couriers, even if it's just for a couple of miles. There aren't a lot of people around, but it's a hugely risky thing to do because there's a chance one of them could escape. He's not experiencing fear. Psychopaths don't fear what most people fear. They don't have emotional responses that are even on a continuum of what other people experience.

Chapter 6: What challenges did investigators face in locating the Curriers' remains?

594.108 - 618.228 Israel Keyes

My plan was to take him into the basement, tie him up separate, and then take her upstairs. There were these two queen-size mattresses in the upstairs corner bedroom, and that's where I planned to take her and then him. She was annoying me that I was having to deal with him, and I just came to the realization that he wasn't going to stop fighting.

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620.071 - 635.597 Israel Keyes

There was a shovel in the basement, and I hit him with that a couple times. I didn't know I was all hanged up. I grabbed the 10-22. There was a cop car right across the road about 100 yards away.

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636.697 - 647.994 Unknown Speaker

Two young cops lived right across the street Israel Keys was pretty confident in his ability to pull this off right under the nose of the police.

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648.434 - 667.866 Israel Keyes

So I grabbed that, the silencer, and put that on. He saw the gun, and he started to say something, and it just pissed me off, and I just started pulling the trigger. I pulled as fast as I could until the magazine was empty.

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673.22 - 696.21 Unknown Speaker

After he killed Bill, he tells us that he rapes Lorraine Currier. He rapes her multiple times. He talks about going outside, taking a smoke break, coming back in, and raping her again.

703.579 - 727.556 Unknown Speaker

This story hit me a little bit harder than Keith talking about what happened with Samantha in part because he was even, I think, more detailed in his description of what happened with Lorraine. Just the things that he did to Lorraine were, it was incredibly difficult to listen to and to imagine that that happened.

729.218 - 729.458 Unknown Speaker

Sorry.

731.616 - 738.88 Israel Keyes

Just like, I don't know, I guess you could call it the fantasy that developed over the years.

741.961 - 756.449 Unknown Speaker

And he said he took Lorraine downstairs and Bill's obviously deceased on the floor. He describes killing her and then using contractor bags to put their bodies in, in the basement of that house.

Chapter 7: What was the aftermath of the investigation?

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977.952 - 984.316 Unknown Speaker

Hey, Mary. It's Frank Russo, Jeff Bell, and Israel Keys here. We're calling from Anchorage. Thank you.

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984.436 - 992.421 Unknown Speaker

I'm here in my office in Vermont with Lieutenant George Murdy, who is in charge of the courier investigation for the Essex Police Department.

993.542 - 1003.508 Unknown Speaker

Do you mind if I ask you about why Vermont and why Essex Junction? It just seems kind of off the beaten path from the areas you've been to.

1005.057 - 1022.43 Unknown Speaker

Well, off the beaten path, that's kind of like what I like to do, so... What we discovered was that the farmhouse in which Israel killed the couriers and disposed of their bodies in had been demolished.

1023.751 - 1030.396 Unknown Speaker

To find out that the farmhouse had been demolished, that was just another kind of blow to the investigation.

1034.158 - 1038.181 Advertisement Narrator

Police dig up a demolished home on Route 15 in Essex, looking for clues.

Chapter 8: How does Israel Keyes' case contribute to understanding serial killers?

1174.134 - 1202.904 Unknown Speaker

This is what's known as the Coventry landfill. I haven't been back here since the day the search ended. Every morning we would gather, there was a picture of Bill and Lorraine that was in that tent. And every time you walked through it, that photo was always there. And that was done with intentionality, to remind all of us who it was we were searching for.

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1206.607 - 1231.648 Unknown Speaker

Waves of us would line up and go through with rakes and picks and shovels through all of the debris. It just was like that hour after hour, day after day. The smells are horrific. There's sharp things everywhere. You have to wear a ton of protective gear in June and July in Vermont. It's probably the most grueling effort that I ever made as a crime scene investigator.

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1233.171 - 1243.835 Unknown Speaker

We had no bodies at the time, and we had to give closure to the investigation. But I will say closure to the family outweighed the closure to the investigation.

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Now you have a family on the other side of this that's living a tortured existence that they just want to have their loved ones back.

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1254.931 - 1268.221 Advertisement Narrator

11 weeks, 178 agents, folks from the FBI, Special Search and Hazmat teams looking through 10,000 tons of trash. Hundreds of boots, rakes, and a million dollars later, no remains of the Curriers.

1270.262 - 1294.006 Unknown Speaker

Bill and Lorraine, they were together since high school. They were so connected and so much in love with each other. And you never saw one without the other. I can see them up in heaven. I just see them happy. And they don't have pain. They don't feel the pain of what happened to them. It's all wiped clean.

1303.297 - 1312.804 Unknown Speaker

At this point now, we have Samantha Koenig and the couriers. So now we know we have three victims of Israel Keyes that he has admitted to killing.

1313.945 - 1325.895 Unknown Speaker

They are drastically different when you compare them. Now you have two genders, you have three individuals that are just vastly different in age even, different locations geographically.

1326.835 - 1330.158 Unknown Speaker

And so now we know that Israel Keyes is a serial killer.

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