Steve Martin
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Here's exactly what I thought. I gave Marty the script and I said, now look, when you read this script... and you come across Rick Moranis' name, just cross it out and write yours in.
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"Steve Martin & Martin Short"
Yeah. Oh, wow. I think it was John Belushi. And then it went to John Candy. I think you kind of know what we were going for there. But anyway, both were unavailable. And then the name Martin Short was... Martin Short came up. That's right. And after there was a pause... And then Chevy was last? No, Chevy was in. Me and Chevy were definitely in. It's actually Chevy and I, but whatever.
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I love that you have a character backstory. Like you're Marlon Brando. What's your backstory?
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Marty, tell them the title of your TV special that I love so much. I, Martin Short Goes Hollywood. But that reminded me of something I read years ago of this funniest book title I ever read. And then I thought, oh, I wish I had thought of that. And then I researched it, and there is no book called that. And I thought, maybe I did think of it.
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"Steve Martin & Martin Short"
But it was kind of a comedy biography of a fictitious actor called I, Actor.
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No, I was just saying that you're right. You usually work with somebody, then you never see them again. But in this case, we continued to work together kind of coincidentally. through Father of the Bride movies. And did we do another movie together? Is that it?
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"Steve Martin & Martin Short"
Well, it's like you guys, you're constantly riffing off each other. It's fun, and when you work together, you start doing that all the time, and then you develop a kind of a, not only a kinship, but a style.
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"Steve Martin & Martin Short"
Well, let me add something. Only Marty has friends. Right. Right. That's my problem with these two. I benefit from his friends.
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"Steve Martin & Martin Short"
But he's very social. Everybody wants to be with Marty. And I've told this before. I'd say, you know, if we're, for example, or if someone is plotting a dinner party in Hollywood and you invite these people and you invite Marty, and if Marty can't come, you cancel the party. Marty is the party.
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"Steve Martin & Martin Short"
Yes, right. But I have to add something. And Jason said, after the success of Three Amigos, dot, dot, dot, you really mean 20 years after the success, Three Amigos, did it become a success? It was a minor success at the time. And then it had an accumulation. Yeah. It accrued value.
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"Steve Martin & Martin Short"
And then I remember like, you know, 10 years ago, a magazine from the UK, I think it was called Empire Magazine, they called it, we want to put you, Chevy, and Marty on the cover. And I said, why? And they said, well, it's the 25th anniversary of Three Amigos. And it's a huge hit. You mean somebody cares? I didn't think anybody even ever thought about it.
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Yeah, but the next year they did the cover of 25 Years Later from Ishtar.
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"Steve Martin & Martin Short"
Well, the truth is... I enjoy working with Marty and I think it's vice versa. So we actually enjoy it and all that other stuff.
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"Steve Martin & Martin Short"
Yeah. There are no pricks allowed. Our max is six, maybe seven shows a month. Okay. So it's not, you know, I couldn't do it because I got a family and I love being home. Yeah.
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"Steve Martin & Martin Short"
I thought it was funny. This is in the 70s when I was getting asked for a lot of autographs. And so I made up a card and it said, because I thought, what do people really want when they get an autograph? They want to say that they met you. That's the main thing. And what was he like?
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In, you know, like the 12 seconds that they met you, what was he like? So I wrote, this certifies that you met me and found me warm, charming, intelligent, and funny. And then I had a printed signature on it. And then I found I'd give the cards out thinking it was hilarious. And then they'd say, could you sign this? No way. Yeah. So I thought, well, that's over. Oh, wow.
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"Steve Martin & Martin Short"
We always... Well, in fairness, it's slowly evolving. We never throw everything out and then bring everything new in. It would be impossible. So it just slowly evolves.
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"Steve Martin & Martin Short"
Yeah, we change things one line at a time. And then every once in a while we'll come up with a new idea and we'll put it in whole.
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"Steve Martin & Martin Short"
We'll do Zoom and we'll have a bunch of material in front of us. But, you know, we'll do that. at the beginning of a tour, if we have a lot of new material to go over.
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"Steve Martin & Martin Short"
And as you know, Marty is an incredible singer. I mean, I listen to him on stage every night. He's never flat. He's never sharp. And curiously, he's never on the note. But, no, he's incredible. He never misses. He has a beautiful tone.
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"Steve Martin & Martin Short"
We don't actually sing and play together. We do some songs, but we use piano and we use our orchestra, but we don't have a banjo number. Jason, have you not seen it?
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"Steve Martin & Martin Short"
The only stand-up I do is in our show. Yeah. You know, I call it stand-up with Marty, but we each have a section in our show, and I just sort of do monologue jokes and introduce a song on the banjo and play it. But I love doing it. And it took me as long, as much time to work out that ten minutes. as it used to take to work out 10 minutes.
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"Steve Martin & Martin Short"
You know, you realize you're three years into this and you've got one little area that's weak and you're trying to fix it. And now it's feeling really good now that it's old and overexposed.
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"Steve Martin & Martin Short"
No. I mean, there's jokes that, you know, for example, when we did our Netflix special, then we really started trying to change things out. And then three years later, we're talking, we're going, you know what? I missed that one joke. Right. Blah, blah, blah. And then we would put it back in and then no one knew.
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Which one is your favorite? Which one of the three? How is it to deeply prepare using old material?
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I'm not sure what you mean. You mean you feel like you're giving away your private life to do a talk show anecdote?
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I have a secret fantasy, which is to go on a talk show totally unprepared and just to see what happens.
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"Steve Martin & Martin Short"
Didn't know a thing. Didn't know a thing. You just write it according to the premise.
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And then when it started to hit the air and you started to get back word that, by the way, it's the biggest debut that ever and, you know, that sort of thing. I don't know how accurate that is. Yeah, it's huge. And that's when you start to get excited. But you don't change anything because of that. You just, oh. And then even a year and a half later, you start to go, what is this?
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"Steve Martin & Martin Short"
Well, that's one of those news stories because we're shooting two days in Los Angeles that it's mistaken for. They're moving to the entire season, you know. No, it's like a location shoot.
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"Steve Martin & Martin Short"
That was my, you know, when I had the idea for the show, I pitched it to them, to the producers, Dan Fogelman and Jess Rosenthal, based on, I wasn't even in it. I said, I think this is a good idea. And we liked it. And then they called me and said, would you do it? And I said, well, I can't. I could only do it if it's shot in New York. Right. And then that's what, you know, that's why it was shot.
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"Steve Martin & Martin Short"
And also it's a New York show, which makes it kind of great.
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You've had great cast people on that show. So fantastic. Yeah. And that's what, when we get somebody that we can, you know, like, we worked with Matthew Broderick, and it was like so easy, and the comedy is so good. It's like you've worked together all, you know, your whole lives.
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"Steve Martin & Martin Short"
It came about after the fact because I had originally pitched it as three older people who have a lot of time on their hands. And we were busy. And then I think the studio suggested, what about Selena, actually? What about Selena? and we met her on Zoom, and they actually cast her, and we met her on Zoom, and Marty and I, after the Zoom, we call each other and go, she's perfect. Wow.
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You've always been a champion of her. You pull out names from an old hat. Yeah.
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yes morgan neville so glad what's it called it's called steve exclamation point okay yeah steve exclamation point and um it i got a call from morgan neville about this documentary and and i you know his credits are won't you be my neighbor and 20 feet from stardom yeah so many you know he did a thing called cool school yeah and uh And I met him when we got along.
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"Steve Martin & Martin Short"
And, you know, when you do a documentary, you have to open up, first of all, your archives, which I happen to have. They told me, they said, you have a lot of archives. And I didn't realize I had a lot of archives. So they went, prowled through my archives for months and months and months and found things. They found. Like an old sock. A photo. Pardon me.
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It was a cherished sock. Anyway, they found a photo of my father in Germany in 1943 doing a USO show. Oh, thank God.
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"Steve Martin & Martin Short"
I did not archive. I saved things. And I realized later, you know, I would take things like, oh, I'm on a magazine cover. I'll save it. And I'd throw it in a thing. Yeah. I was saving all the wrong stuff. I should have saved photos, which, you know, photos were hard to come by then. You just didn't snap it. You had to photo this and then, you know, change film, the whole thing.
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"Steve Martin & Martin Short"
So, but when I wrote my autobiography, I did have one little plastic box where I just threw things in and that had things like a receipt. from a hotel in Salt Lake City in 1971. So you knew where you were at that date and you could research. Do you remember her name though? It was like archaeological because as it went down, you would go past time, go through time.
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"Steve Martin & Martin Short"
Very good. By the way, you can buy Marty's book on Amazon. I mean, you won't. Right. If you needed it, it's there.
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"Steve Martin & Martin Short"
It's about four months, and I actually love it. You know, the studio's 20 minutes from my house, and also you're working with two other co-stars, and so you're not shooting every day, and when we work together, it's really fun.
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"Steve Martin & Martin Short"
I love your show. I love when you're joking around. It just feels like you're with three friends, you know? Not you guys, but...
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"Steve Martin & Martin Short"
And I'll get the address, give you the address for the check.
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"Steve Martin & Martin Short"
Steve, hi, everyone. It's too much. First of all, I have to just jump in. You got to go? I got to go. I got to go. I got to jump in and say how great it was to hear you guys try to figure out what 200 was. And the closest thing... It is four times 50, right? The closest thing I can come up with is that you think 200 is 208. And I'm thinking that you ought to contact NASA...
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Every day I get an email, hey, what about Steve Martin short? And then I'd see it on any, you know, Twitter thing I'm on. What about that?
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"Steve Martin & Martin Short"
The great thing about Marty is he has it all done at once. Right. The hair, the eyes, the nose, the teeth. It's true. And you heal all at once. You heal six weeks and it's over.
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I have to add a line from your earlier conversation about Kleenex, because Lenny Bruce had a line, it's like the mother, and she goes in her son's room and picks up, she goes, oh, oh look, Sonny blew his nose on the Playboy magazine again.
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First of all, we pay our compliments to Selena. She's lovely to work with. We love Selena. And, you know, she doesn't mind us. Oh, that's Marty. Do you need to get the door? You're such a pro.
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"Steve Martin & Martin Short"
It was friendly as far as I can go. Yeah. You maxed out. But I first met Marty... at my house, and he came over to get a copy of the script for Three Amigos. Really? And that's when I first met him.
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And I, of course, knew who he was, and I loved, I, since then, you know, I learned more, because I always enjoyed him, but, you know, I also watched him do specials and create new characters, and I've realized that his characters are so bizarre, they have nothing to do with humanity. They have to do with, like, you know, aliens coming down and saying, hey, I think this is the way they act.
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I could be wrong. I thought that was a 23-20 victory for the Chiefs. I know I saw the Rams play the Bengals.
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Yeah, Kyle Brandt pointed this out after Jaden Daniels made the conference championship. So here's where team scoring defenses ranked for each of these quarterbacks. Brock Purdy. first. Mark Sanchez, third. Joe Flacco, third. Ben Roethlisberger, first. Sean King, third. Jaden Daniels, 18th. So he's been carrying Washington.
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Right. Well, I've always known you, Dan, to put the sharpest possible point on things. So and it does offend my principles. It does offend. More importantly, it offends the principles of The Washington Post. You know, there are the principles of The Washington Post date back to 1935. They're affixed to the wall as you walk into the newsroom of The Washington Post.
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The first principle is to tell the truth as nearly as the truth may be ascertained. And then there's principle number five, which says that, you know, this, you know, that you're supposed to serve the public and not the interests of the individual, of the owner, of the commercial interests of the owner.
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So I worry when it appears that the owner is prioritizing his other commercial interests over the public. over the core principles and the core mission of The Washington Post. And by the way, I mean, the core principle is is articulated quite well in the motto of The Washington Post. But what Bezos himself has called a mission statement, not a motto, which is democracy dies in darkness.
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And that means that this news organization ought to stand up for democracy in every possible way. Most recently, you know, with this decision not to run a wide range of opinions and on its in its opinion pages on in this opinion section digitally, to me is fundamentally undemocratic. You know, the core principle, a fundamental principle of a democracy is free expression.
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And and newspapers like The Post have traditionally honored free expression by allowing a wide range of opinions on their opinion pages and in their opinion section. And to sort of say that really the only opinions that will be allowed here that will be welcomed here are opinions that are that are like mine, I think is fundamentally undemocratic.
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I think there's a simple answer to that, and the answer is yes. Cool.
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Yeah, I think you've answered your own question here. Okay.
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Is that a slurp? Wow, I'm beginning to feel like I'm back in the newsroom with you, Dan.
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I thought I had left this world.
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Well, it was hard to write. I mean, you know, while I was at The Washington Post, Jeff Bezos was a really good owner. He gave us our independence. He supported us. He defended us against Donald Trump, all the threats that he received. of reprisals and all of that, he stood behind us. So it was difficult for me to write now that I've become incredibly, well, more than disappointed.
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I've gone from disappointment to disillusionment to indignation, really, over what's happening there. And so, yeah, it was hard for me to write. And I've been very concerned about the direction of things at The Post. I should say, by the way, Dan, that the news reporting is really good. The news department, as you know, is separate from the opinion department.
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Bezos has not interfered at all in the news coverage as far as I can tell. I've heard nothing of the sort. And every day they're producing one scoop after the next and telling the public what it needs to know about their government.
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Well, only in the last several weeks where I've been very disappointed. I started commenting just before the election last year when The Washington Post made when Jeff Bezos made the decision to kill an editorial endorsing Kamala Harris for president. They had been endorsing for president consistently since 1976, with only one exception when George Bush and Michael Dukakis were the candidates.
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And so I felt that was the wrong decision. It came only 11 days before the election itself. I think it was a demonstration of fear on basis as part about reprisals from Donald Trump. I described it then in a tweet as as cowardice, as cowardly and spineless. And and, you know, since then, there have been a number of steps that Jeff Bezos has taken that caused me a lot of concern.
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Amazon making a million-dollar donation to the inauguration, Bezos making a pilgrimage to Mar-a-Lago at that dinner, having conversation with Melania Trump about this supposed documentary that would be made about her life, for which she herself would be the executive producer. Amazon, two weeks later, paying $40 million for the rights to that so-called documentary.
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three times the amount of the next highest bidder, Bezos appearing on the dais during the inauguration as if he were a trophy for Donald Trump, along with all the other tech executives, subsequently making a decision that the opinion pages
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would only include opinions that were consistent with his own, as he described it, as personal liberties and free markets, essentially a libertarian philosophy, it sounds like, although he did not explain it in any detail whatsoever. And so it's been one thing after the next, and I've been very concerned about it.
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In fact, Amazon most recently reached an agreement to purchase the rights to Donald Trump's old TV show called The Apprentice, And I'm sure that undoubtedly Donald Trump will be receiving a portion of that.
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Fear, I think. You know, I can't get into his head, but I think that's really what's happened is that, you know, Trump during the campaign said that he would be people's retribution. He talked about seeking vengeance on his perceived political enemies. Bezos had always been seen as perceived as a political enemy for one reason, one reason only.
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and that was the coverage on the editorials of the washington post and so um i think he was concerned that with if trump got back into power uh that he would deny amazon uh contracts that it has with the federal government it has a enormous number of contracts with the federal government particularly for cloud computing services and also his commercial space venture blue origin was really at an inflection point as you know a couple of weeks ago it
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It launched its finally successfully launched a rocket into space, and it was hoping to be in a position of competing directly with SpaceX. Well, SpaceX is owned by Elon Musk. Elon Musk certainly after the election was practically was camped out at Mar-a-Lago. and now is camped out at the White House basically and has more power in this government than probably anybody but Donald Trump himself.
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So I think it's fear that he would that it would it would have a very damaging impact on Amazon's business and the business of Blue Origin, both of which depend to a large degree on the contracts with the federal government.
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I'm not always serious. You know, that movie has left me with a reputation as being someone who has no sense of humor whatsoever. So I've been working diligently since then to try to... That's a weird one for them. And, you know, you're not helping here by saying that. In any event, look, I was very happy with the movie.
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First of all, I got to be portrayed by someone who is an excellent actor, but also is taller, more fit and better looking than I am. So that when people hear my name, they think of him and I'm totally fine with that. So but I think more importantly than that, I think it was a very I think it was a great movie.
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it sent a really important message i think about the need to have investigative reporting about how hard it is to do investigative reporting correctly about the the need for news organizations to commit themselves to doing this kind of work and that the public really uh values that on uh on our part and also i think a very important message that it's it's um that it's important for the press and everyone really in our society to listen to people who don't have power
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because they often have very powerful things to say. And we finally gave voice to the survivors of abuse who had been victimized by clergy and whose those cases had been covered up for decades by the church. And finally, they were able to achieve accountability because of the work of the Boston Globe.
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Yeah, well, that's a good question. I think, well, obviously, we'll have to wait and see. I think that my sense is that it is a survival technique, that he is trying to navigate a really difficult situation. I mean, of course, you know, he's still executive chairman of Amazon. He does have a fiduciary responsibility to that publicly owned, publicly traded company.
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He also wants to see Blue Origin get off the ground, literally and and figuratively. And And so he wants to stay. I believe he wants to stay out of Trump's crosshairs. I don't think this makes him necessarily an ally of Donald Trump, really. I don't put him in that category, but I think he wants to stay. He wants to not antagonize him. Basically, don't poke the bear.
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And I think that was evident with the decision not to run the editorial endorsement last year, last November. Don't poke the bear. Why antagonize them if it's not really necessary and it's not required for a news organization to run an editorial endorsement anyway? So he rationalized that decision. I don't think, you know, the idea of independence was really the reason for the editorial.
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They'd run an editorial of endorsing. Well, they endorsed Hillary Clinton in 2016. They endorsed Joe Biden in 2020. Those editorials were sharply critical of Donald Trump. Bezos didn't object to those editorials. He knew that they were coming. He praised the editorial page editor at the time profusely. And but now I think he just doesn't want to poke the bear.
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He doesn't want to antagonize Donald Trump. He's looking for ways to stay on his good side. And so, yeah, I would put it in the category of a survival technique. The problem is the survival technique is doing damage to the reputation of The Washington Post. It's undermining its credibility. It makes it appear that it's not independent.
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It's causing hundreds of thousands of subscribers to abandon their subscriptions. And that's, I think, deeply concerning. My worry is that he's prioritizing his other business interests over the business interests of the Washington Post and, more importantly, the principles of the Washington Post.
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Hour 1: Domonique Ruins The Interview (feat. Steve Williams)
Well, thanks very much. It's nice to be on your show, guys.
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Hour 1: Domonique Ruins The Interview (feat. Steve Williams)
Yeah, I was a fanatical rugby player. I'm from New Zealand and rugby's our national sport. Everyone, when they're a kid growing up here, wants to be an all-black and I was no different to that.
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Hour 1: Domonique Ruins The Interview (feat. Steve Williams)
No, I think I might have lost a couple of teeth before it was mandatory to wear a mouth guard. But no, nothing too serious. I played rugby through my early college days and then obviously started caddying at a young age. But yeah, rugby's a big game here in New Zealand. I'm not sure if you know much about it. Oh, yeah.
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Hour 1: Domonique Ruins The Interview (feat. Steve Williams)
No. How do you mean you can beat some of these dudes?
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Hour 1: Domonique Ruins The Interview (feat. Steve Williams)
Oh, look, I mean, anybody that's good enough to get their PGA Tour card and play on any kind of professional circuit, for every player that's out there playing, trying to make a living at golf, there's hundreds of other players that don't make it.
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Hour 1: Domonique Ruins The Interview (feat. Steve Williams)
It's a very competitive game, and to be at an elite level in golf, I don't think the average person would realize how much a player puts in and how much time goes into. Making it on the turf. Let me rephrase it.
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Hour 1: Domonique Ruins The Interview (feat. Steve Williams)
Oh, look, I guess me and Phil Mickelson could probably square off one day.
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Hour 1: Domonique Ruins The Interview (feat. Steve Williams)
Yeah, that's a great question. My personal belief is that he won't give up the dream of trying to win another major championship until the time comes when he knows it's not a possibility. So for him, in order for him to...
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Hour 1: Domonique Ruins The Interview (feat. Steve Williams)
play in a major championship and be competitive he needs to have his body in us you know allow his body to be healed and to the point where he can practice so when he stands on the first tee of a major championship he knows he's fully fit and he can play 72 holes without any without any ailment uh and then he can compete so
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Hour 1: Domonique Ruins The Interview (feat. Steve Williams)
Tiger is an incredible competitor and I think he's proud of all the records he's got. I think one record he'd like to add to is winning a major championship at 50 years and older. Phil Mickelson's proven that you can do that and there's been a number of other players of the won majors late in their career. So, you know, Tiger's, I don't think he's given up the dream of doing that.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 1: Domonique Ruins The Interview (feat. Steve Williams)
And, you know, until such point where that dream's gone, where he believes he can't compete and win a major championship, I think he'll try and keep playing. So hopefully we haven't seen the last of Tiger. I mean, it would be a phenomenal story if he could come back and get himself ready where he could play in a major championship and not only play, but, you know, give it a chance to win.
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Hour 1: Domonique Ruins The Interview (feat. Steve Williams)
When I went to work with Tiger, I considered myself to be reasonably fit and he gave me a whole different perspective for what being fit was. So yeah, I got it. He put me through some rigorous workouts and sometimes I had to say, look, I'm done now, Tiger. I'll meet you in the car when you're finished. He's a pretty strong dude.
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Hour 1: Domonique Ruins The Interview (feat. Steve Williams)
Look, when you've caddied for as long as I've caddied, I guess it's just kind of ingrained in you. Basically, I started as a kid at my local golf course here in New Zealand, sort of eight or nine years old, caddying every single weekend, 36 holes a day to the point where, and then I caddied for 40 plus years on the tour. So,
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Hour 1: Domonique Ruins The Interview (feat. Steve Williams)
is something that you'll always be inclined to view things from a carry's perspective, not from a player's perspective, I guess.
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Hour 1: Domonique Ruins The Interview (feat. Steve Williams)
Yeah, possibly, yeah.
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Hour 1: Domonique Ruins The Interview (feat. Steve Williams)
Well, I think you'd have to say it's a zero because I've never used an Uber. That is a private car.
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Hour 1: Domonique Ruins The Interview (feat. Steve Williams)
I drive myself everywhere. I haven't had the pleasure of having to use an Uber yet. And if I have used one, my wife would have booked it for me because I don't carry apps on my phone. So I'm a bit old school.
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Hour 1: Domonique Ruins The Interview (feat. Steve Williams)
Well, we only really had one heated exchange and it was at Augusta in 2003. Tiger got to the third hole at Augusta. The tee was positioned at the front of the tee, which made it possible where you could drive the green. And I'd been out in the course earlier that morning and
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 1: Domonique Ruins The Interview (feat. Steve Williams)
told them on the practice fairway that they'd moved the tee up on the third hole so sometimes the third hole was an iron off the tee to keep it short of the bunkers and sometimes you hit a driver to get over the bunkers depending on where the wind is and where the hole location is but on this particular day the tee was moved up so the bunkers were in play there's no doubt in my mind it was a driver he didn't like the play I couldn't see why he didn't like the play I talked him into it he hit an absolute shit shot
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Hour 1: Domonique Ruins The Interview (feat. Steve Williams)
And fanned way out to the right and eventually made a bogey on a hole that, you know, you should make three, four at the worst. And that possibly, you know, stopped the momentum that he had after starting with 4-4 and, you know, didn't do any good in the tournament in the end. And he carried on like an absolute pork chop for the next few holes. You know, like a little sour baby, whatever.
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Hour 1: Domonique Ruins The Interview (feat. Steve Williams)
And then on the ninth hole, I just actually let it rip. It's the first time I've done that since I started with him. Just gave him an absolute mouthful and a bollocking about his behavior and the way he was carrying on and that.
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Hour 1: Domonique Ruins The Interview (feat. Steve Williams)
that was all good and then um yeah when we completed the round he um said hey thanks very much for the pep talk up nine and everything so yeah but like we got on like a house on fire when i was working from i think that was the only time that we ever had any kind of you know really heated argument it was unfortunate it was during the round of a major championship but
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 1: Domonique Ruins The Interview (feat. Steve Williams)
When I came up the 18th hole, I thought, well, this might be the last time I'm going to Tiger. He either liked it or what I said, or he absolutely hated what I said. So, yeah, he was very good about it. So we laughed about that for a little bit.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 1: Domonique Ruins The Interview (feat. Steve Williams)
Just basically not afraid to voice your opinion, you know, straight up sort of bloke and that. And, you know, when there's something, a lot on the line, not scared to voice your opinion and, you know, try and sway a player your way or, you know, whatever it might be.
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Hour 1: Domonique Ruins The Interview (feat. Steve Williams)
But just basically, you know, I think you'll find the common trait amongst all the best carriers are guys that are prepared to stand up and not be afraid to be wrong. Obviously, when it comes down to the crux of major championships and golf tournaments and that, and there's a lot on the line,
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Hour 1: Domonique Ruins The Interview (feat. Steve Williams)
it's very easy just to be what we call a yes man and just agree with the player because some guys are afraid to be wrong, but you can't ever be afraid to be wrong. If you can speak up and voice your opinion, you're going to be successful.
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Hour 1: Domonique Ruins The Interview (feat. Steve Williams)
No, you don't call out your workmates, that's for sure.
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Hour 1: Domonique Ruins The Interview (feat. Steve Williams)
Well, I mean, I think that's a staggering statement to make. I mean, look, if a player won three major championships in no other tournaments and a player won one major championship in 20 tournaments, the guy that's won three major championships gets a nod in everybody's book. So I don't know what he was basing that on. But, you know, I guess it's above a comment. Some guys... Thank you very much.
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Hour 1: Domonique Ruins The Interview (feat. Steve Williams)
Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you for watching. Thank you very much.
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The Hockey Show: Paul Maurice Stories With Adnan Virk
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The Hockey Show: Paul Maurice Stories With Adnan Virk
we got here, I want to tell you a story. I'm serious here. My wife and my two daughters, they begged me to buy a Peloton. So I bought a Peloton and then I watched that Peloton sit in my office and stare at me. So you know what I did one day? I looked at it. And so I decided to get off my ass and I jumped on the Peloton because no one else was using it and I paid for it. I mean, so why not?
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The Hockey Show: Paul Maurice Stories With Adnan Virk
Then I realized eventually that they bought it for me. And I got to tell you, way more challenging than I could have ever imagined. Peloton coaches are walking the walk. I love the coaches. I do the Grateful Dead one. It's fantastic. They have a sub three hour marathon runner, military trained athlete, a former college basketball player, and so many other well-rounded coaches on their team.
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The Hockey Show: Paul Maurice Stories With Adnan Virk
All this experience really shows in their classes, which are never short of challenging, especially for me. So I jumped on it that first time. It was challenging, more challenging than I thought. Then I wanted to beat the bike, and so I kept jumping on it, and I absolutely love it. I mean, I'm the only one who uses it, but again, they got it for me. I mean, I had no idea.
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The Hockey Show: Paul Maurice Stories With Adnan Virk
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Hour 2: Mark Messier Hates Greg Cote
A little bit fried. And tell Greg that Messier hates him, too. Add him to the list, okay?
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Hour 2: Mark Messier Hates Greg Cote
So first of all, I got to be honest, the NHL set up a charter, which was a big, big win. This is my 30th Stanley Cup final. And the first time we've had access to a charter. So a bunch of ESPN people, Hockey Night in Canada people, Sportsnet. So it was nonstop. Fort Lauderdale to Edmonton.
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Hour 2: Mark Messier Hates Greg Cote
smooth customs easy so really no complaints on the travel we might have had easier than the players did in fact the Oilers I know when they went home from Fort Lauderdale they had a stop in Kansas City for fuel if you can believe that on the Oilers plane that's true story so Outside of South Florida? Yeah, I do.
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Hour 2: Mark Messier Hates Greg Cote
I believe it's special when a team finally wins its first Stanley Cup in franchise history. This is a hard-working, blue-collar, gritty club. The Panthers are. And so, yeah, I think they have a lot of fans. Not in Canada, probably, but certainly in the U.S.
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Hour 2: Mark Messier Hates Greg Cote
Well, in the summer, man, I'm not picking Florida. And quite frankly, walking around Edmonton with Messier is pretty cool. We didn't wait in too many lines.
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Hour 2: Mark Messier Hates Greg Cote
Oh, do I have to bring PK? Can I just go alone? No. Hey, we had a great time at Edmonton. We had a blast. It's a small town slash city, but we had a great time. The people were really nice, really welcoming. And listen, if you love hockey, you'd love Edmonton too. I just, I can't take the heat, man. I bubble up here in Florida in the summer, so...
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Hour 2: Mark Messier Hates Greg Cote
Although I do go to Vegas in the summer, so that's kind of something.
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Hour 2: Mark Messier Hates Greg Cote
So that's not true, but I appreciate you pointing that out. The desk that everyone was complaining about was only in Edmonton for the three games there. We couldn't get our proper desk through customs. No, it was the difference in the setup that we had. So here at the Amerit Bank Arena, which I still can't get used to saying, they gave us a great suite. We were in our own suite.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Mark Messier Hates Greg Cote
Therefore, we had the desk. You could see we were standing behind it, lit up perfectly. And in Edmonton, we were not afforded that luxury of having a suite. We sort of had an area, if you will, which was like really right in the middle of the crowd and a ceiling right above us. So we couldn't stand. So we had to sit in chairs. Therefore, we had to get a different table.
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Hour 2: Mark Messier Hates Greg Cote
This is way too inside the television world.
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Hour 2: Mark Messier Hates Greg Cote
No, and I even mentioned it. I say I'm taking the desk home with me at the end. People don't like it, but as one of our bosses said, listen, it's a good thing. Nobody's complaining about our content or what we're saying or ripping our views or point of views. They're ripping the desk, so we seem to be okay with that, you know?
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Hour 2: Mark Messier Hates Greg Cote
I mean, he was a central figure in this whole thing for me. And I said it last night in the pregame. You know, if you didn't care who won, you didn't have a really rooting interest. Paul Maurice is a guy you root for. He's a lifer. He had more losses than any coach in NHL history. Fired a bunch of times. He's had a rough road.
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Hour 2: Mark Messier Hates Greg Cote
And if this would have gone the other way last night, you know, and this is kind of a coin flip. It's a one-goal game. This could have easily gone the other way. And if it had... You know, he would have been tagged with that label of the guy who can't win the big one. So I think you saw on the ice what it meant to him. He was talking to Emily. He needed a break with the cup.
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Hour 2: Mark Messier Hates Greg Cote
And he looked at the sky and closed his eyes. I thought that was really real. And so I'm a Maurice guy. I remember him back in Hartford. He was the youngest coach in the NHL at that point of the Whalers. And Ray Ferraro is in that picture to the left. Ray said he's going to frame that. But he was a guy I was rooting for, maybe more so than any player.
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Hour 2: Mark Messier Hates Greg Cote
Tyler Pozo is a great story, too, those kinds of things. But I really feel like Maurice earned this. And, yes, I think the Panthers are a likable club. Who doesn't like Matthew Kachuk unless you've got to play against him, and I get that. But Barkov, the way he carries himself, really all the guys, even Lomborg and Cousins and those guys, I could get behind.
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Hour 2: Mark Messier Hates Greg Cote
This could be my favorite team if I was a kid growing up watching this club. So I think likability off the charts, and I'm so happy for Paul Maurice right at the top of my list.
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Hour 2: Mark Messier Hates Greg Cote
So interesting emotions there. So, look, he's all in on the Oilers, and how could he not be, right? He's actually born and raised in it, let alone being the man there. Regrets. But then in the end, so the Oilers leave the ice, and I'm watching mess, and it's only our third year together, our second cup. He got misty-eyed. Like, he gets in the moment of whoever is winning the cup,
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Hour 2: Mark Messier Hates Greg Cote
I think because he remembers how hard it is to do from his six Stanley Cups. And he was talking about the tentacles, in essence, of all the different people on the ice from your billet family the trainers, the equipment guys, the support staff who work so hard, especially in hockey, for not a lot of glory and probably not a lot of money. And you see the families on the ice and what it means.
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Hour 2: Mark Messier Hates Greg Cote
And Bill Zito, the GM, so emotional on so many occasions. And so Mess gets like teary-eyed. Mess is a really fascinating guy. He's a really thoughtful, introspective guy. Like, he would put his stick through your teeth to win a hockey game when he played. But now in his post-playing career, he's so thoughtful. I think he's an emotional guy as well. And I think he was reliving it.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Mark Messier Hates Greg Cote
He did it two years ago, too, when Tampa Bay won as well. And so it's interesting to sort of go through a Stanley Cup final win with Mark Messier, who's won six of them. So he knows.
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Hour 2: Mark Messier Hates Greg Cote
Yeah, no, it's all time. We opened the show last night saying this. You could make the argument this is the most significant single game in National Hockey League history. That's like a thing that's hyperbole, but not necessarily when you break it down that, you know, Florida had never won. Canada hadn't won in 31 years. The Oilers hadn't won in 34 years.
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Hour 2: Mark Messier Hates Greg Cote
Yes, you could complete the comeback for Florida and not carry around that label as the biggest choke job ever. I mean, I mentioned Maurice, but every player on that Panther squad would wear that. And now they don't have to. And Edmonton can walk away with their heads held high in that they battled back from down 3-0 and could have just given up and been swept out. So this was my 30th Stanley Cup.
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Hour 2: Mark Messier Hates Greg Cote
I just talked to Barry Melrose, who I missed dearly. The first 28 were with Barry. He's often tired and doing his thing. And and so I've never seen anything like this. I'd like to think I have a feel for these series. But really, after the third game, I thought this was sweep city. And I picked Florida in every game, five, six and seven to win. I couldn't believe they didn't win in five and six.
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Hour 2: Mark Messier Hates Greg Cote
And so here we go, and they get it done last night. And that was the game they needed, guys. We didn't have a one-goal game in the whole series. That never happens in the Stanley Cup final. So that's another rarity prior to last night. And, you know, Panthers hockey is winning 2-1, which was exactly the recipe for last night.
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Hour 2: Mark Messier Hates Greg Cote
No, I don't golf really. I just perspire. I get warm. It's really warm. I'm in the lobby of the hotel. Of course, the air conditioning is not working.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Mark Messier Hates Greg Cote
You mean last night or right now?
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Hour 2: Mark Messier Hates Greg Cote
I get all the Botox stuff, too, and come on. You guys know me a little bit. I'm the last guy to do any of that stuff. Come on. And so, yeah, I just I perspire. I get I overheat. Chris Berman is the only guy who likes the studio colder than I like it. And it makes it makes everybody else nuts. Even Messi, the tough guy from Alberta. He complains the studio is too cold when I'm in there with him.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Mark Messier Hates Greg Cote
Like, you're Mark Messi from Alberta. How can it be too cold for you? So it's just a thing. It's my thing.