Julie
Appearances
20/20
Unholy Matrimony
I got a phone call. And it was Sabrina. And she was just screaming and asking me to go over to her house. And I know that I kept saying, are you sure it was Robert? Because Robert was so strong, we couldn't believe it. We just couldn't believe it.
20/20
Unholy Matrimony
I mean, it was overwhelming. Sabrina stayed in her room most of the time. She just had a hard time. It was unbelievable.
20/20
Unholy Matrimony
Sabrina is my baby sister. She was born when I was 15 years old, and we've just had a bond ever since she was born. We grew up in Barstow, and I got married to Randy. So I moved out at 18, and Randy and I had this little home. And so Sabrina would come, and she would stay with us. She was always trying to entertain. She has such a talent.
20/20
Unholy Matrimony
just to be an amazing, funny person, even when she was little. And every time we'd take a picture, we'd do, let's do a Brina picture, and we would all do our hands. So it was just something that she took on when she was little, and it stuck with her all this time.
20/20
Unholy Matrimony
My dad had decided that he was going to retire, and his dream was to retire in Prescott, Arizona. So Sabrina was, I want to say, 13, and she made a lot of wonderful friends there. And that's where she met Robert, was in Prescott.
20/20
Unholy Matrimony
Here he was with the big tattoo, Lamone, you know, tatted on the back of his head, but he was a big teddy bear.
20/20
Unholy Matrimony
Robert and Sabrina had a total connection, and they started to go to church. And then when they were going to get married, they were baptized together. Sabrina and Robert got married in 2000. The wedding was in Arizona, and it was just a beautiful wedding. I was the maid of honor, and Sabrina was just a beautiful bride.
20/20
Unholy Matrimony
When they moved to Silver Lakes, they went to church for a few years. But Sabrina's faith never wavered. She always, always had her Bible
20/20
Unholy Matrimony
They would harass her. The kids couldn't go to school. She had to homeschool them. So my cousins, they said, you know what? Come and live down here with us, and we'll take care of you.
20/20
Unholy Matrimony
There was a knock at the door and it was the district attorney and the detectives. And, um, Sabrina didn't have any shoes on and they asked her to come outside And she went outside, and I started freaking out.
20/20
Unholy Matrimony
She's an amazing mother. Her heart and soul is everything in those kids. She had nothing but love, love, love.
20/20
Unholy Matrimony
No. I was so ready and so on fire to tell the truth that she didn't have anything to do with her husband's murder.
20/20
Unholy Matrimony
Sabrina, I think, was just so tired and devastated, and I don't know that she came across the way she should have to the jury.
20/20
Unholy Matrimony
Kelly Bernatine is the one that started the Wolf Pack. You know, Sabrina would tell me when she first met Kelly, Kelly was just the greatest thing ever.
20/20
Unholy Matrimony
When that verdict came, it was heart wrenching. And we had so many people come up to us and just say how wrong, how wrong it was. That was not the right verdict.
20/20
Unholy Matrimony
Jonathan killed Robert on his own. An absolutely manipulative monster took... are Robert's life. And Sabrina is paying the price for it.
20/20
Unholy Matrimony
Sabrina was drinking so much all the time that She was pretty numb, I think, to a lot of things, but she didn't share with me what was going on.
20/20
Unholy Matrimony
I would talk to her about it, and she'd be like, oh, Julie, I'm fine. It was the same thing with me. If we didn't admit it, it wasn't real.
20/20
Unholy Matrimony
Robert would have to go to wherever the problem was on the train. So if the train broke down, then he would go out and he would fix it.
20/20
Unholy Matrimony
Robert came across a bear one time. It was a very dangerous job. For one person to work that job is just unreal to me.
20/20
Unholy Matrimony
I saw a difference in Robert and Sabrina's marriage. Not so much their marriage, but their way of living and their lifestyle.
20/20
Unholy Matrimony
They went on adult vacations. They went out boating. They partied a lot at the North Lake.
20/20
Unholy Matrimony
The only thing she complained about is that she wanted to go back to church and she wanted Robert to go back to church. Robert, he felt like they would be hypocrites if they went back to church. Robert didn't want to change back. He wanted to continue with the fun and all that they were doing. Despite the open marriage, Robert and Sabrina still loved each other.
20/20
Unholy Matrimony
I talked to Sabrina a few times later on that evening, and then she's like, I keep trying to get a hold of Rob. I can't get a hold of him. Her daughter was waiting up for him because it was going to be her first day of school, and she wanted to give her daddy a kiss goodnight. And I said, oh, Brianna, he'll call you. Maybe he's out on a train or something.
20/20
Unholy Matrimony
Their daughter wanted to talk to him on the phone, desperately. And they just kept calling and calling and calling. And there was no answer.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Meet Cute II
I am in this city where you would throw your McDonald's bag out the window.
Crime Junkie
WANTED: Justice for Rhys Pocan & MMIW Part 2
To find out that she did not abandon me and that she wanted me is a big impact in my life because I have a child now. And not having to tell my child that, you know, her grandmother didn't care about me because her grandmother did care about me.
Crime Junkie
WANTED: Justice for Rhys Pocan & MMIW Part 2
I just want justice. I think after we find who did this to her, I'll be able to feel relieved because my mom didn't deserve this. She didn't? Why did you do it?
Deadly Mirage
Busted
There was one time, and I went to the little market, and one of the friends said, oh yeah, that golfer that was out in the front yard at their house, it's gone, and I should have taken that. People were like vultures and wanted things of Robert's and theirs, and it was just, it was nuts. It was just crazy.
Deadly Mirage
Busted
In fact, when we put the house up for sale, we didn't even put a sign outside because she was scared of the way that everyone was being so cruel to her and turned on her.
Deadly Mirage
Busted
She didn't know anything about it, and I believe in her innocence. They said there just simply wasn't enough evidence.
Deadly Mirage
Busted
I was at work and I got the call on my cell phone. They said that they had arrested Sabrina and Jonathan Hearn. I needed to pick up the kids from school. We weren't able to talk to Sabrina. I just couldn't, couldn't believe it.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Ask Charlie Anything 207: Saving Idaho? Surgeon General and Smut? Amfest Breakout Sessions?
I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Ask Charlie Anything 207: Saving Idaho? Surgeon General and Smut? Amfest Breakout Sessions?
Hi, Charlie. I am from Texas. I'm in the Fort Worth area, which turned back to red, which is amazing.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Ask Charlie Anything 207: Saving Idaho? Surgeon General and Smut? Amfest Breakout Sessions?
Perfect. We barely escaped it out last time and turned a little bit blue, but not in our rural areas again, just like most people. My question is about the Surgeon General pick and Pam Bondi. Do you think that their previous stances are valid with Bondi being the red flag law and the Surgeon General with COVID and all of the lockdowns?
The Planet Reigate Podcast
42: Earlswood’s mass cycle ride and Reigate’s Pub In the Park plans… and more
This week for the Planet Reigate podcast at the Children's Trust Bell Street Reigate, we have a marine navigation compass. We're asking just £50 for this item, but obviously I need to tell you a bit more about it. I've seen them retailing brand new with their boxes and a little dust cover bag for between £85 and £100. I think they started off at £150 when it was a brand new model.
The Planet Reigate Podcast
42: Earlswood’s mass cycle ride and Reigate’s Pub In the Park plans… and more
Anyway, it's a coarse compass and it can be used to take bearings. Obviously very important if you're out on open water. It's saying it's ideal for a small boat, a dinghy, kayak, canoe or even a small fishing boat. So very versatile. It's saying that it even works upside down when mounted on the ceiling.
The Planet Reigate Podcast
42: Earlswood’s mass cycle ride and Reigate’s Pub In the Park plans… and more
Hopefully that doesn't mean you're in really rocky seas and you get to benefit from it whilst trying to wrestle with the waves. It can be moved around the boat and it's got a clip with it which is a smooth edged bracket that can be fitted in a permanent position if you choose.
The Planet Reigate Podcast
42: Earlswood’s mass cycle ride and Reigate’s Pub In the Park plans… and more
with two little holes which will take self-tapping screws and it's designed with a smooth finish to the bracket and the item the compass so that it doesn't catch on sails or hurt fingers probably really important if you're out there you might be out at sea on your own for example it's got a soft rubber casing and that helps to provide efficient shock protection as well
The Planet Reigate Podcast
42: Earlswood’s mass cycle ride and Reigate’s Pub In the Park plans… and more
So there's a conical cord that reads direct in horizontal readings and gimballed magnetic set. In other words, if it rocks from side to side, it centres itself again. It's quite an interesting item, even if you don't have any interest in compasses or the sea. It's quite a talking point, I would suggest, on the sideboard at home. It is available on Saturday morning for just £50.
The Planet Reigate Podcast
42: Earlswood’s mass cycle ride and Reigate’s Pub In the Park plans… and more
So rush down, purchase this item, zhuzh up your seafaring vessel and help support children with brain injury.
The Planet Reigate Podcast
41: The Light’s first birthday, a look back at Reigate’s Summer Festival and Horley carnival… and more.
This week's item was first manufactured between 1962 and 1968 and it's from the Mattel Incorporated Company. The brand name on this is Fisher Price. So yes, it's a toy, but not just any toy. It's a music box teaching clock. So there's quite a lot going on here, but it's described as no flashy lights, no buttons to press, no fancy bits to get lost or broken.
The Planet Reigate Podcast
41: The Light’s first birthday, a look back at Reigate’s Summer Festival and Horley carnival… and more.
You simply wind it up, listen to the music, watch for the little pictures on the clock face and turn the clock hands to learn the different times. So this might be very reminiscent for people. That's joyous, isn't it? The imagery across the teaching clock has a school scene, a teacher greeting children at the school entrance door, a child walking up to the school.
The Planet Reigate Podcast
41: The Light’s first birthday, a look back at Reigate’s Summer Festival and Horley carnival… and more.
Around the side there's lots of little windows with different children in, one dressed as a cowboy, one with frost and snow seeping from the window. And on the back there's images actually which indicate the different hours of the day. So the different things that might be taking place at that point. So bath time apparently is 5pm. 6pm looks like parents sitting down and eating their tea.
The Planet Reigate Podcast
41: The Light’s first birthday, a look back at Reigate’s Summer Festival and Horley carnival… and more.
And 7 o'clock is bedtime. This item retails new for about £50. I've seen them new boxed. The pre-owned variety such as this are retailing for around about £20. We're asking £12.50 for this item so you can pick it up locally at the Children's Trust Bell Street.
The Planet Reigate Podcast
41: The Light’s first birthday, a look back at Reigate’s Summer Festival and Horley carnival… and more.
And as always, we have so many other pre-owned items and due to the generosity of our donors and a huge toy department, it must be the biggest one in the county for sure. Come along and see us, find your hidden treasure and support children with brain injury.